Hi,
after searching for weeks around ways to make the ring tone for text messages work, I found that even though there exist several proposals to solve the problem, many htc diamond users still apparently don't succeed in getting it done, myself included.
The problem is that if a message arrives, the phone returns to normal mode if on standby, the lights flash, but NO TONE is played. No matter if in standby mode or not.
So far I tried the following which at least made the phone wake up and the light flashes. However, no sound is played and moreover the message is not displayed. (I am not using Manila but SPB Mobile Shell (tried 2.15 and 3.0 and without, but does not change).
things tried:
1) I did several Hard Resets including using a totalling of five different ROMs (including one with 6.5)
2) Trying all possible settings in the alerts and Notifications menus, Vibrate, Program Sounds, built-in sounds,...
3) edit the registry to make the phone wake up on Message
4) Install the HTC Hotfix for the greyed out REPEAT option
The strange thing is, once I flash the phone new, it works for about one day, but then stops (however, I used to install some programs during that period, so far could not 8for the lack of time) find out what was the particular reason.
but after about 10 complete new Flashs I am really desperate that one of the most simple features of cellphones, an text message beep, seems not possible with the HTC Touch Diamond.
In any case, I know there are a lot of discussions around this issues but I tried all of them and it seems that they don't work for many others as well, while it does for some.
It would be great to have a final thread getting this issue fixed ultimately!
Thanks for your experiences / ideas !
cheers,
Playagiron
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So after long trials and errors, I found one more reason why one cannot hear text message sounds:
I had deleted the Activesync Registry Key in order to get rid ot the Outlook Email Account as suggested in several threads. Apparently this made the sms sound not work anymore, for whatever reason.
Just restored the backup of the Active Sync key to HKLM Software Microsoft Inbox Svc and voilá!
well i think this is one of the most crucial and important problem with HTC phones...i had the same problem with my HTC Touch before...hopefully this should not start with my new diamond.
solution of that i found was something similar what u stated. i tried deleting my smses..i had more than 3000 sms in inbox and in outbox around 2500...so i deleted say around 1000 sms ..which might played some trick and then sms sound started...unfortunately my htc touch then got stolen ...i wish i would have not fixed that problem for thief to go with same misery of not getting incoming sms sound
it didn't work for me....grrrr
any new solutions?
playagiron said:
So after long trials and errors, I found one more reason why one cannot hear text message sounds:
I had deleted the Activesync Registry Key in order to get rid ot the Outlook Email Account as suggested in several threads. Apparently this made the sms sound not work anymore, for whatever reason.
Just restored the backup of the Active Sync key to HKLM Software Microsoft Inbox Svc and voilá!
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Same problem here.
I was hearing sounds in incoming emails a few days ago but suddenly no sound is played when i receive an email.
I didn´t delete any registry value, so i don´t know if your solution can help me, but... do you remember the registry key to review, please?
Thanks!
Still looking for a solution anyway
EDIT: I have found a pseudo-solution: if i check the box "Display message on screen" (Sounds & Notifications), new email notifications sounds normally.
I don´t like seeying WM notifications pop´ups, but... it´s the only way new email are notified with sound.
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Hello, I am a very txt heavy person and i was just wondering if anyone knows of an option or software that acts like the blackberry message service, where it shows ALL the texts between you and the person (sorta like the facebook -wall to wall- feature).
Thank you.
Pocket CM does this kinda, maybe not exactly what your looking for but worth a look
Palm SMS is also very good.
Ahhh, you mean threaded SMS conversation!
Well, by default, WM6 doesn't have threading feature on its messaging application.
But if you'd like to thread your SMS, you could use the two alternatives mentioned here. And a few others.
Palm Threading SMS is awesome. I can't give you a link to it unfortunately, but if you snoop around this forum, I'm sure you'll find your way to the file.
Another one that's free, it's developed by a member here, is the IMSMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619
Give PocketCM, Palm (I prefer this), and IMSMS a try. But I find that Palm's Threaded SMS has a very nice (maybe the best) integration to the operating system. Meaning, it's installation on top of (not overwritting the default one, just overlaying) the default messaging application is very nice.
Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
Thanks in advance!
ghaith_d said:
Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
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I'd look in Settings -> Sounds & Notifications and change it there. It's not really a program-specific setting, though it may make some changes. I've also found that it doesn't seem like changes stick around through a soft reset (sometimes). I can't explain that, and I'm no guru so it may be my fault anyway.
Austin
Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Thanks jomo25, but the problem persists...i went to sounds & notifications and it shows that there is a sound notification and that it will vibrate with new incoming sms...but it doesnt do that...should i try a soft reset?
and did any of you guys notice that txts were getting delayed because of palm sms? as in...they take longer for you to recieve a text that someone sent?
If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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I did everything you said, but no luck...and i have been notified by my friends that they have sent me several sms's and i never got them at all, let alone have the sms delayed by over 10 minutes (average). I really like the app, but it's causing too many problems so i'm gonna uninstall it and try something else.
Thanks for your help anyway
All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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I have the HTC TYTN 2, with the OEM ROM...i have not done 1 mod to it...weird.
Yes, VERY odd. It has worked for many other users as well.
Hi,
I'm not sure if anyone here can give me a hint on this, but here goes. I flashed my TyTN II with Dutty's 6.1 ROM a while back. I'm not sure if it's related, but for some reason my phone stopped playing the notification sound for when a text message is received.
In Settings > Sounds & Notifications, however, on the Notifications tab the "incoming text message" event is wired up to a sound just fine. Similarly, on the Sounds tab I have Events, Programs and Notifications all checkboxed.
Do you any other reason why this event wouldn't fire or why it doesn't play the notification sound?
Have you installed, or are you using Palm SMS?
There is a seperate option in Sound and notifications for Incoming Message (Palm SMS). You may need to change this to something else and then back again to get it to stick.
Ta
Dave
First of all, there is a thread about this rom, in which this problem is explained and solved at least 3 times, it's really not hard to search instead of making another thread that is just cluttering space for no useful reason.
If you disable the Microsoft Voice Command, your SMS sound will go back to a proper working order, you can do so In Start-->Settings--> MSVC
I think his question is legitimate. I have exactly the same problem and have also not found any solution in the more than 180 sides of the Dutty thread. And thanks for your hint with the Voice Commander. I tried it also but it still does not work.
Yeah, sorry. Didn't want to clutter up the forum with something that has already been covered. However, I don't even know if this is related to Dutty's ROM, but one seems to expect so. Searching for this problem has also proved a bit difficult. I just don't get any usable results.
I have not installed Palm SMS, unless it's installed on Dutty's ROM. However, I don't think so.
Furthermore, I don't believe I have Microsoft Voice Command, neither. As far as I can tell, it's commercial speech recognition software by Microsoft, and not standard with Windows Mobile 6.1.
I'll go through some of the many pages on the Dutty thread to see if I can find more information.
Thaurin said:
Hi,
I'm not sure if anyone here can give me a hint on this, but here goes. I flashed my TyTN II with Dutty's 6.1 ROM a while back. I'm not sure if it's related, but for some reason my phone stopped playing the notification sound for when a text message is received.
In Settings > Sounds & Notifications, however, on the Notifications tab the "incoming text message" event is wired up to a sound just fine. Similarly, on the Sounds tab I have Events, Programs and Notifications all checkboxed.
Do you any other reason why this event wouldn't fire or why it doesn't play the notification sound?
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Have you installed any other software? Any registry tweakers like Kaiser Tweak etc? Dutty's ROM has AdvancedConfig installed by default. You may want to check the message settings in that.
Well, yes, I installed a ****load of applications. One could of course be the cause of all this, but I simply don't have any idea. AdvancedConfig has three messaging options:
- SMS sent notification: Disabled
- SMS delivery notification: Disabled
- SMS Unicode support: Enabled
Somehow SMS delivery notification doesn't sound like it's about incoming SMS messages, but it's strange that there is one for sent and delivery. So I'll enable that and see what happens.
Running low on ideas...but...
I take it all other sounds do work? If not try a new Radio.
Ta
Dave
Some time ago I had a similar problem. In settings/notification.... in the box for New text message there is a option to play to file. Even if I clicked the play, it didnt play the ringtone. Later after a hardreset I realized that it was someway connected to audio manager and playing wav files. The audio manager was not able to play the wav files. Maybe the file was not associated with the player. Just my two cents.
Alright, success! After setting SMS delivery notification to Enabled in AdvancedConfig, I tested it out. And there was both sound and vibration, too (which it didn't before neither). So I suppose that setting was the culprit, although I have no clue why it got set to Disabled. Also, I am amazed that apparently this really pertains to incoming text messages instead of messages I sent out.
Mikulec: I had some problems with ringtones before. Once it didn't want to play custom ones any more. Since I flashed my ROM, I never really figured out why it did that, but maybe it was because of some media player I had installed that took over some file associations. Who knows.
Thaurin said:
Alright, success! After setting SMS delivery notification to Enabled in AdvancedConfig, I tested it out. And there was both sound and vibration, too (which it didn't before neither). So I suppose that setting was the culprit, although I have no clue why it got set to Disabled.
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This setting is just for notifying u that the message u have sent was delivered. This shouldnt be tha cause.
But I am glad it works now.
This is annoying, then. It works now, but I'd like to know what fixed it. I did a few different things over the course of trying to fix my problem, of course, but nothing that I thought would be The Solution.
On top of this, I don't get a delivery notification for messages that I have sent after toggling that setting, so it appears to be not working correctly.
I suppose sometimes you just have to not ask questions and move on...
Thank you!
Thank you very much! After much time in searching, I've also didn't realized that is because of Advanced config. Now it's really works!
As above, delivery notifications would normally be a delivery receipt for messages that you've sent - when enabled you'll get a message from 'System Administrator' telling you when the SMS you sent was delivered to the receipient.
If enabling that has solved your problems, great. One thing to note though if you are getting receipts is that sometimes networks charge for these delivery receipts, and these generally won't be included in any allowances for SMS/calls etc. with your subscription.
In the UK I know Orange charge 0.9p for each one they send to you. ...My orange bill was £623 last month and one of their suggestions to reduce it was to turn delivery reports off. When I'd stopped laughing we agreed that wasn't really going to contribute too much!
Regards,
Rob.
Hi,
I had the same problem with my Touch HD (Blackstone). I change cooked ROMs a lot, and sometimes I don't have sounds in notification area (new SMS, new e-mail, etc...).
I use the Free Mp3 Wma Converter to convert all mp3's and wav's to wma format. After that, just transfer wma files to the /Windows directory on Your device, pick sounds in "Sounds & Notifications" and it should work It's just that easy
I got my Diamond last Thursday and have been using it with my secondary sim whilst I got used to the phone and became used to using it intuitively... I am happy to say I am now completely comfortable with it and it is *almost* perfect!
Changes:
*Bepe 0.97 FIXED
*Diamond Advance Config tool
*S2U2
*Comm Manager advance.
Thank you to all the great people working to made this device all it should be! Donations forthcoming very soon!
I have just a few questions with regard to my remaining issues:
*The contacts summary page which comes up after ending a call, any way to suppress that?
*Is there any way to bluetooth contacts, files (pictures/music etc) to and from another mobile phone? I tried transferring a jpg image, an MP3 ringtone and a contact via bluetooth from a Sony Ericsson W880i but all three failed!
*Is there any way to display contacts as FORENAME SURNAME as opposed to SURNAME, FORENAME?
Thank you in advance for any advice regarding the above
Anyone?????
Think I might be able to help you out there.
1. To get rid of that contacts thing at the end of a call, tap Phone on the Home screen, then tap Menu and then Options. Go to the Advanced tab right at the end and untick "Add new phone number to Contacts at end of call".
2. To receive files of any kind over bluetooth, you have to have Bluetooth turned on in the Comm Manager, but you also need to have the Beam option turned on. If you have the modified Comm manager then you should be able to see the Beam option in there.
3. All my contacts show up as "forename surname" already, I think it might be to do with how you have it set up in Outlook, because I remember Outlook had it "surname, forename" by default and that drove me mad until I changed it. Hunt around in Outlook to change the way they're displayed, then do a sync, and I'd say that should do it.
Dave
Thanks for taking the time to reply Dave!
The contact summary still seems to come up I did untick this box a few days ago and maybe its a bug but the screen still appears on finishing a call.
I turned on Beam and the bluetooth file transfer now works just fine, thank you!
I will sync up when I get home and have a play around with Outlook, thanks for the suggestion I think that will remedy this problem too.
Is there an advanced contact manager or SMS manager out there by chance? Sending and receiving a few SMS today and the whole transition from TF3d to the WM is a bit jarry, and browsing contacts isnt really possible without the stylus... so far these are the only small niggles in day to day use! The latest version of S2U2 really helps usability and allows you to lock the hardware buttons when you get an incoming call... no more calls answered by mistake with this app!
No bother.
I never manually browse the contacts list because it scrolls very strangely, its impossible to successfully pick a contact.
The best way to select a contact when sending a text, I've found, is to type the first letter or two of their name, eg "DA" and then everyone with a name starting with DA is listed, eg DAD, DAVE etc. Much better than scrolling a list. Its the same behaviour when making a call and you want to select a contact; just bring up the Phone app (the one with the keypad) and start typing their name on the number pad.
I agree though that the process of moving from TF3D to WM6 when sending a text is very clunky. I wonder would HTC consider developing their own TouchFlo messaging software that covers all aspects of sending SMS and email. Unfortunately the iPhone still has the advantage there; you still have to get out the stylus every now and then on the Diamond.
I have most of my most frequently used numbers under the People tab in TF3D... good suggestions as above though.
May give this a try if I cant get along with the SMS...
http://store.xda-developers.com/xproduct.php?xProd=1943
Will have a search to see user opinions
Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?
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Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?
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This little quirk bothers me too because I want to hit send and then lock the device; unfortunately, when I hit send and lock the device I get a bunch of notifications and the device unlocks itself and random uttones get pressed as its in my pocket.
It may be best to load a WWE rom and sort out the smail using mmslite. Getting JP input working however is another issue.
For the problem with the notifications in softbank's arcsoft mail app, I wonder if there is a registry fix we can do.
solution for successful sent notification(at least for text)
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-diamondpro-tweak.html
Go to messages, and disable text messages notifications.
Kevbodian, mjz147,
Thanks, I really appriciate your quick response!!
I checked out that Diamond tweak app and its one hell of an applicaiton!
It seems though, when I disabled the text message notification and soft reset, im still getting those alerts after sending MMS/SMS emails.
Is there something wrong with my device or I may have to do some manual modifications via registry? :\
Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.
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Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.
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I guess I have bad luck when it comes to disabling notification via Windows.
Unlike the US version, my phone doesnt have just one central location for mail but two (Outlook application - used for PC email & SoftBank Mail - used for SMS and MMS...)
So when I looked under the option menu in Outlook tools, I wasnt able to find any SMS/MMS options...
Im sure theres a registry hack that can be used...im not so sure why the diamond tweak app could apply changes to everything except the "turn off notifications" option though...
Was anyone able to solve this issue?
Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.
Sergio PC said:
Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.
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I currently have 3.3 installed and have used it to disable/enable many features on my Diamond. But it seems after I disable the 'SMS delivery notification' and 'SMS sent notification" fields (and soft reboot), it is still showing the sent notifications after sms/s!mail is sent...
As Kevbodian was saying, maybe there is a special reg hack that needs to be done under softbank's arcsoft mail app.
could somebody figure out what change is made when that notification is turned off and turn this into a cab file? the only thing that bothers me is the sound. i dont mind the bubble or the little icon on the top telling me that my sms is sent. thanks
this one is simple and right to the point install it and it doesnt give you the message, you dont have tons of menus to navigate through just that install
also i am simply reposting this app i did not develop it or design it credit goes where credit is due
so this turns off the sound AND the notifications also? thanks
yep no sound and no pop up message after sending one
i hope it helps
almost tempted to figure out how cab files work (arent they just reg edits?) and maybe try to see if i can change it myself. i like having the notifications (bubble and little icon on the top) but the sound can be annoying at times,
Edit1: also i just installed advanced config 3.3 and the notification thing works for me.
Edit2: also search "kraiser tweak" and you will find it has settings for this. a lot of settings actually for just the thing you are talking about. now we just need to find the edits in the registry because i dont really like having 2 configuration programs on my phone. (advance config, and kraiser tweak)
Edit3: ok i found this on the wiki....Disable SMS Sent Notification
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
.....so does this mean if it was changed to a 2,3,or 4 that would change the action of it? im really trying to look into this.....if you cant tell haha
Okay, yet another problem with this kaiser. This phone is acting worse then a problem child on crack since I reloaded 6 times because of me trying to get the weather in my area. Anyhow, since I gave up trying to fix the weather thing, I now have a message problem. I have deleted all messages from inbox and outbox, etc. But still the phone keeps saying I have one new unread message. I have powered the device off and also used the stylus to reset it from the bottom button, and still have no effect. What is wrong with this thing this time? Has anyone had this problem? I am running the stock HTC firmware with WM 6.1 and Update 23 of M2D Touchflo. Also have Update 20 addons installed to make things work, etc. TomTom, and other msc programs. Don't think they would effect this, since I had this setup before my phone starting to screw up.
Okay, I found the solution. If anyone else needs this then here is the website:
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/fixunreadcount.shtml
Description:
This utility fixes the unread count for every mail folder in every account on the device.
Some users have had problems with Inbox or the Today screen displaying "-1" unread messages, or displaying 1 or more unread messages when, in fact, there are none. This utility will detect and repair these discrepencies.
It's not flashy, but it does the job
Just power off device and restart it and it should be gone.