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Hi all,
It would be nice to use the gsen of the diamond as a game controller for custom made games on the pc(like the wii).
Is this possible
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interesting idea
but i don't think it ll be easy....
kenshironanto said:
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interesting idea
but i don't think it ll be easy....
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No I don't think it would be easy...
that's why I ask it the pro's!!!
nice idea. Bluetooth connection to the PC?
lol... just the idea of pairing a device on Bluetooth with Windows...
Can't imagine the phone side to be too hard - my first shot would probably be WLAN since that's the easiest way to get some connection working. Once you have that simply passing gsen / dpad / buttons (maybe even touchscreen input?) to the PC should be rather trivial.
The harder part is probably to write a gamepad driver for windows that interprets that input data and transforms it to DirectInput compliant information.
While I certainly know how to do the phone side - I am somewhat unsure about the PC side. The last time I did some driver coding is AGES away. I don't even know if opening a TCP/IP socket from inside a driver is possible/a good idea. Maybe one would need a daemon-like user space program to read the input from the network and feed it to the driver...
Would acualy ge a freaking awsome Ide toward an playstation 3.
And acualy a computer.
i don`t know if this is fake or not, but check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xeREnZ_7Q&feature=related
called niime i think =)
pureevil said:
i don`t know if this is fake or not, but check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xeREnZ_7Q&feature=related
called niime i think =)
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cooooll
it would be awesome if diamond can do that
pureevil said:
i don`t know if this is fake or not, but check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xeREnZ_7Q&feature=related
called niime i think =)
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Geez I wish I had time to look into that - if their stuff was open source I am sure we could leverage about 90% of their XP driver implementation (which most likely they managed pretty well)...
do we need to remake drivers?
you can get Python (program used) for PocketPC, and it just bluetooth on to PC with NiiMe software....
testing now...
while they seem to use python on a S60 phone - this doesn't directly translate to doing the same thing on a WiMo diamond... The fact that they released their source under the GPL makes reusing their PC software a viable option though.
Speaking of GPL source - has anyone found their code available for download on their site?
Okay guys - you got me as far as installing a devel enviroment and writing a simple gsen SDK based test app now - if there's someone willing to spend some time on the PC DirectInput driver side I'm sure we can get somewhere with this...
This.Would.Be.Awesome. !!!!!!!
if this works, I gonna get a diamond other than orbit 2
pureevil said:
i don`t know if this is fake or not, but check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xeREnZ_7Q&feature=related
called niime i think =)
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nice, i didn't know that this exist. So asking here for the request whasn't as stupid as i tought!!!
+1 for up!
Hey
I'm currently working on a little client-server (TCP/IP) thingie to at least get GSensor data from the Diamond to the PC - once that is done there's still the very ugly part of writing a DirectInput driver that acts like a gamepad...
If anyone wants to take over the driver-writing part things would progress much more quickly I guess
Sadly I don't have too much spare time at the moment to spend on the matter though.
Cheers,
Alex
a gsensor keyboard emulator could control for example
FLUX the game. (3d tube flying), by senden keystrokes
to windows` keyboardhandler
whoever does figure this out will be the man. when it does happen i just hope it will do the job for the cdma version coming to telus on or around august 6th
I have a .NET client/server pair running in an WiMo6 emulator now sending what could actually be GSen data at a fairly decent rate. Not considering the GSensor it's pretty much phone independent.
And if anyone tells me how to get rid of the files VS2k5 places on my Diamond for debugging the application I'll try the same thing with a real GSensor I am just tired of hard-resetting my Diamond in order to clean up the mess done by the development environment...
Cheers,
Alex
Edit: Okay, I tested it on my diamond by simply copying over the two required files (no debugging possible though) and transferring GSen data either via ActiveSync (say Bluetooth) or WLAN works nicely. But I'm afraid it's necessary to keep the device awake to avoid lags (does the diamond reduce CPU speed on standby?).
After having a Touch a few months back, i thought the Diamond would be a breeze. NO such luck in my experience.
For example. On the main home screen. How do you edit that so it's just the clock or, to add more to the list that currently shows calendar and call history? I can't find any way to do this so if you can enlighten me, i'd really appreciate it.
What about when texting? Is there any way to make the keypad a different size? Personally i can't find a way to edit that. It's annoying that after adding your contacts name, you seemingly have 90% of the screen filled with the entry system and you have to mess about to get to the message section of the screen. Guessing i've missed something somewhere!
Zooming in on a photo... how is that done? Orange's CD ROM User Manual is vague to say the least so if you can assist here to, please do.
This thread could become a handy hints and tips chart for beginners if all feedback is good so if you have a question or some simple advice for settings and the way to go around things, chuck a note in and someone will be very happy to see the reply
1) Well if u flick ur finger in an upward motion on the home screen u'll notice the clock becoming smaller and will list all the list all ur appointments from ur calendar...
2) If u are not satisfied in the HTC Keyboard, u will need to look into other keyboards my fav personally is Touchpal from Cootek and there is even resco keyboard which is pretty gud.
3) You can only zoom in a picture when u r in the HTC Album, in order to zoom you will need to rotate your finger clockwise or anti-clockwise i am always forget which is for zooming so u will need chk tht out...
I hope these tips helps u out....
whitefalcon said:
1) Well if u flick ur finger in an upward motion on the home screen u'll notice the clock becoming smaller and will list all the list all ur appointments from ur calendar...
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not all the appointments....
KukurikU said:
not all the appointments....
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Hmmmmmm, i see. Shame that somehow we can't take the good things from the Touch like the Home screen as standard and have them in the 3D instead. If any cab compilers are reading this, maybe it's something that could be done?
Along those lines, maybe someone could rip out the original texting keyboard, the smaller more compact one... better for stylus use and enables you to see more screen. I HATE the big finger pad they've put on the Diamond. Is is really necessary to have it that big? Surely if you're going to use the stylus (i mean if HTC didn't want us to use one, then ALL the functions and menus would be larger, yes?), then why provide us with one in the first place?!?!!
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Hmmmmmm, i see. Shame that somehow we can't take the good things from the Touch like the Home screen as standard and have them in the 3D instead. If any cab compilers are reading this, maybe it's something that could be done?
Along those lines, maybe someone could rip out the original texting keyboard, the smaller more compact one... better for stylus use and enables you to see more screen. I HATE the big finger pad they've put on the Diamond. Is is really necessary to have it that big? Surely if you're going to use the stylus (i mean if HTC didn't want us to use one, then ALL the functions and menus would be larger, yes?), then why provide us with one in the first place?!?!!
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There are multiple SIPs already built into the Diamond. Holding your finger or stylus on the small arrow next to the keypad button when input is allowed will display the menu, from there you can select the Windows SIP which is tiny and stylus friendly...
Reading the manual is a good idea before posting dude. Or even a search
dickenz said:
There are multiple SIPs already built into the Diamond. Holding your finger or stylus on the small arrow next to the keypad button when input is allowed will display the menu, from there you can select the Windows SIP which is tiny and stylus friendly...
Reading the manual is a good idea before posting dude. Or even a search
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Well thanks for that reply. I'll have a mess about with that one.
That took no time at all. NO WINDOWS SIP on my handset. All i have are the following... BLOCK, COMPACT, FULL, KEYBOARD, LETTER, PHONEPAD and TRANSCRIBER *sigh*
What bloody version have you got?!?!!
Oh and for the record Mr Read-The-Text-Provided (lol)... did i not say this? ---> Orange's CD ROM User Manual is vague to say the least so if you can assist here to, please do.
Hmmmmm, i think i did!
Ok... answer this one then. Every other HTC phone i have had has done this but not on the Diamond. When you receive a simple thing like an mms or a text, the screen lights to give a clue in case you never heard the message laert. How you you activate THAT cus i'm not seeing how it'ds done anywhere.
Clues please?
I agree - the 'manual/instructions' Orange sent were non-existent and as a first time PPC user I was totally lost until I had a nosey around here and to be fair am still learning all what this phone can do!
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Well thanks for that reply. I'll have a mess about with that one.
Ok... answer this one then. Every other HTC phone i have had has done this but not on the Diamond. When you receive a simple thing like an mms or a text, the screen lights to give a clue in case you never heard the message laert. How you you activate THAT cus i'm not seeing how it'ds done anywhere.
Clues please?
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Install Diamond Tweak, which is available here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
and that gives you the option to enable this feature. (along with tons of other tweaks to!)
Hope this helps!
AGxM said:
I agree - the 'manual/instructions' Orange sent were non-existent and as a first time PPC user I was totally lost until I had a nosey around here and to be fair am still learning all what this phone can do!
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Oh i can answer what it can do for you in one simple phrase mate. It can screw ya head up!
HTC want a good kicking if you ask me. The thing as I see it is this. If they'd have kept the basics as it was on the Kaiser (Tytn II) and THEN added the 3D, all would have been superb.
As for Orange... well, nuff said
tomchap said:
Install Diamond Tweak, which is available here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
and that gives you the option to enable this feature. (along with tons of other tweaks to!)
Hope this helps!
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Cheers for the help there dude. One slight problem that springs to mind.
The 'light handset upon a text arriving' comment i made... what the HELL would that tweak come under?!?!! lol
TheShowStopper said:
Cheers for the help there dude. One slight problem that springs to mind.
The 'light handset upon a text arriving' comment i made... what the HELL would that tweak come under?!?!! lol
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It comes under 'Wake on New Sms'
A wee bit of advice, there are loads of people on here who will always be glad to help, but the tone of your posts is not one which will make folk jump to help you
bonsaiboyz said:
It comes under 'Wake on New Sms'
A wee bit of advice, there are loads of people on here who will always be glad to help, but the tone of your posts is not one which will make folk jump to help you
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Thanks for that chap. My tone? Oh well if i've offended anyone then i apologise. I'm just a bit jumpy when things don't go according to plan and my comments come over as slightly abrasive when in fact, they're supposed to come over as a normal question but in a jokey type manner. I get that in a face to face sitation to so i know exactly what you're saying.
Again, thanks for the reply though. Much appreciated
I want to quickly thank the members of this forum for all the software devlopment and "how to"s they provide. Me and my AT&T Tilt thank you.
I've been looking for a thin client. If you are familiar with other programs like Microsoft Terminal Services Connection (MSTSC), VNC, or Citrix then you know what I'm taking about.
I've searched with several keywords nad it's the first thing I havn't been able to find here on xda-developers.
Stop reading here if you don't care why I'm asking for this.
I work for a small business and part of my responsibility is IT help desk. Recently I've started working on my degree and am out of the office every afternoon.
If I get a help desk call and am at home I started using VNC on my home PC to check out their desktop. This usually cuts my calls from half an hour to five minutes. Seeing as I'm not paid for time this is a good thing.
Soon I'll be spending much more time on campus. Actually, the main reason I bought this phone was so that I could support my office immediately while remaining mobile.
So, does anyone know of a good thin client I could use? Thanks in advace.
There is a Window Mobile Remote Desktop Client...???
That any good?
Dave
DaveShaw said:
There is a Window Mobile Remote Desktop Client...???
That any good?
Dave
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Is it integrated into WM6.1 (and I've missed it) or is it a download I need to get?
I'm definitely willing to give it a shot.
Sorry for my noobishness. I've only had my phone for about two weeks now.
DaveShaw said:
There is a Window Mobile Remote Desktop Client...???
That any good?
Dave
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A bit of research shows that it should be part of WM 6 but I do not have it for some reason. I don't know what the local forum rules are so I'll err on the side of safety and just say searching google for "Window Mobile Remote Desktop Client" will quickly lead you to a solution for re-installing the application if you do not have it.
Thank you for the help.
Anyone seen an app like this for the Android? I would love to be able to control my laptop whenever I hook it up to the HDTV.
http://www.mobileairmouse.com/
Haven't seen one for Android, but I've used a purpose built airmouse before for presentations.....it worked surprisingly well!
Something like this for Android would be excellent....also lots of fun to screw with your co-workers....almost as much fun as the Annoy-o-tron.
Well... there is an app that I have used called RemoteDroid. You need to have a small java app running in the background of the pc that you want to control but it basically turns your phone into a touchpad mouse. You can also check out Android Joystick which is basically the same concept except you tilt the phone the direction that you want to move. Kinda beta-ish and possibly abandonded but it's worth a look. I'm sure that there are more out there though. I did a search on Market for the word "Remote" and came up with a several varity of possible apps that may work for you. However as far as I can tell... there is no "Mobile Air Mouse" specific to the Android phones as of yet. It looks pretty interesting though.
GMote works for me.
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GMote works for me.
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Gmote looks like it doesnt even have keyboard or trackpad support. It seems to be just a media browser.
http://www.gmote.org/
Is that the Gmote you are referring to?
Binary100100 said:
Well... there is an app that I have used called RemoteDroid. You need to have a small java app running in the background of the pc that you want to control but it basically turns your phone into a touchpad mouse. You can also check out Android Joystick which is basically the same concept except you tilt the phone the direction that you want to move. Kinda beta-ish and possibly abandonded but it's worth a look. I'm sure that there are more out there though. I did a search on Market for the word "Remote" and came up with a several varity of possible apps that may work for you. However as far as I can tell... there is no "Mobile Air Mouse" specific to the Android phones as of yet. It looks pretty interesting though.
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Thanks, RemoteDroid works great
GMote has both trackball and keyboard support, plus streaming. One. Great app!
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GMote has both trackball and keyboard support, plus streaming. One. Great app!
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hmmm, i just checked the website again and I see it listed under the FAQ. Seems like that would be a feature they would want on the front page and in the screenshots...lol
If you just need trackball and keyboard support, RemoteDroid does it. Plus, RemoteDroid doesnt need to be installed on your computer just a 74.1 KB zip file with a java file needs to be run. Gmote requires you to download a 23 MB install file.
Gmote does have a larger install...but I can use my phone to control the computer, with Keyboard/trackpad/ball, and make my computer start playing music/vids, Open a web site I was reading on the phone, and play my music directly from the PC on my phone...so...yeah it's bigger...but it's also better, at least for me =). Also, running windows 7 here, remotedroid lags a LOT for me.
Thanks for the info.
I ended up having to install Gmote on my MacBook Pro. RemoteDroid wouldnt work for some reason on my Mac but Gmote works just fine. RemoteDroid works fine on WinXP though.
Question about Gmote: Is there a way to show mouse buttons on the touchpad?
Unfortunatly that is the one thing that I have been waiting for. Currently I can't click and drag due to the lacking button/multitouch.
But it still rocks =D
This is what you want
Android air mouse.
www dot mobilongtech dot com
I am not allowed to post external link. sorry for that.
gremote pro by GBM software works flawlessly.
premotedroid works successfully too.
Does anybody know any application that emulate mouse via accelerometer like Logitech MX Air Mouse?
Bluewave air mouse is nice. However, currently no accelerometer based app exists that I know of. The air mouse app on the iPhone doesn't really work flawlessly, I like trackpad apps much better. However: accelerometer + get it working as a bluetooth mouse = heaven.
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However: accelerometer + get it working as a bluetooth mouse = heaven.
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I have found the app that do this - MultiRemote.
In settings you can turn on wiiMode and after that move the mouse via phone position.
In top-bottom it works good, but for moving left-right I need to change the angle of phone (to left or right), but better will be to detect direction via compass or something else.
Or another method - detect not angle, but moving the device (top, bottom, left, right) - is it possible?
Does accelerometer detect only angle changing? Or it can detect device moving (accelerating and stopping)?
How does the program like Shwartz detects phone moving?
I use phone my pc. It has keyboard/mouse function. Control live/remote desktop style, control specific processes and such, and many more options.
The Best, hands down
androidmonkey said:
Anyone seen an app like this for the Android? I would love to be able to control my laptop whenever I hook it up to the HDTV.
http://www.mobileairmouse.com/
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RemoteDroid sucks, with Gmote you have to keep CMD running. The best by far is PhoneMyPc, it's around 10$, but you could get it free. Here's how, you'll need the aforum app, once in go to shared topics. The post is 3 months old so scroll a bit, the topic is (I'm hosting this site, plenty of apps for android etc.) There's a link that will take you where you need to go. The benefits of this app are, you can control as many computers as you want from anywhere in the world and can be used as a mouse, or you can interact live with your PC, keyboard from it and everything, works fine on 3G and even better with wifi, it's a beautiful thing, trust me. When I'm doing something on the computer and I have to fly, I can finish up from my phone on my PC. Some shots so you can see a bit.
Okay folks, so what's the last word on this one? Is there, or is there no Android app that does what www.mobilemouse.com does on iPhone? I am specifically interested in the "air mouse" bit, which means accelerometer-based cursor movement, no trackpad or other garbage. Does GRemote do that? Anyone tried it?
P.S. Ideally, the app should turn the Android phone into a Bluetooth HID air mouse, so that no SW has to be installed on the PC.
q426669 said:
Unfortunatly that is the one thing that I have been waiting for. Currently I can't click and drag due to the lacking button/multitouch.
But it still rocks =D
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A nicer way to do it would be good, but to click and drag: click and hold the trackball and drag on the touchpad.
This software lets you use the keyboard on your Fuze/Touch Pro as a wireless keyboard and the touchscreen as a Touch Pad Mouse like the kind on a laptop. Unfortunately this software is not free but they do have a trial version that you can try and the only limitation is it forces you to reconnect after every 30 clicks. This program can use either WIFI or Bluetooth to connect to your computer and pretty much lets you do anything from controlling Vista Media Center and Winamp to controlling your computer as long as you can write a script.
The software is called Salling Clicker
http://www.salling.com/
The program uses scripts that people create and post on the forum. I wrote this script a long time ago for my HTC Hermes to control my computer.
I don't know anything about programming or coding but I managed to write this script in about one night after reading a few basic tutorials and help from the forum members on Salling's forum. Since I put this together without any real knowledge this script is really basic but get the job done. If anyone wants to improve the script your welcome too, perhap you can smooth out the mouse movement and sensitivity even more.
Installation Instructions
1. Download and install the software on your PC
2. Pair up your phone with the computer by Bluetooth or use Wifi
3. Choose the correct phone from the drop down menu ( Touch Pro in this case) and it will begin to install the client software to your Phone.
4. Download my script and unrar into My Clicker Scripts located in My Documents
5. Open up the host software on your PC and drag the script called "HTC Universal Keyboard and Mouse" from the right box into the left box labeled "Items available on your handheld device".
6. Start up the program on your Fuze and establish a connection and choose the "HTC Universal Keyboard and Mouse" script to run
7.??????
8. Profit!
Thanks alot, i will definitely give this a try
Screw this, GRemote is the best and free, been around for a long time.
http://gbmsoftware.com/
Mr.Sir said:
Screw this, GRemote is the best and free, been around for a long time.
http://gbmsoftware.com/
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dude thank you so freakin much this is AWSOME.
Mr.Sir said:
Screw this, GRemote is the best and free, been around for a long time.
http://gbmsoftware.com/
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Anybody have this working on a Fuze? The only thing that will open is GMouse, and the only things that work inside it is the left click and moving the cursor but that only works if the left mouse click is held down making me highlight a bunch of stuff.
Mr.Sir said:
Screw this, GRemote is the best and free, been around for a long time.
http://gbmsoftware.com/
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+1..
one of my favorite apps.
Not that i use it alot, but yea gremote is great. Using your phone for a steering wheel for racing games works great. Or if you got a decent set of speakers, you can change the songtrack or volume from the backyard while your planting your two-lips.
Reamer said:
Anybody have this working on a Fuze? The only thing that will open is GMouse, and the only things that work inside it is the left click and moving the cursor but that only works if the left mouse click is held down making me highlight a bunch of stuff.
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I have the same problem... Anyone? PLEASE!!! I used to have this on my Kraiser and loved it.
People People
People there are So many Apps that Do this like ppc tablet/Total input/Vkb/on and on..lol
Nevermind. I got it
www.mobilesrc.com does the same without client software on the computer
also take a look on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425686&page=1
Is there any apps out there that can use the Keyboard via bluetooth to the PS3? I would love to be able to use the TP as a keyboard on the PS3.
wth nice
SSJ4Gokou said:
Is there any apps out there that can use the Keyboard via bluetooth to the PS3? I would love to be able to use the TP as a keyboard on the PS3.
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Same here. I tried a Logitech wireless keyboard with touchpad that's specifically made to use with a PS3. The zoom feature was aweful when using the web browser, so I returned it.
There's a way to format the PS3's hard drive to either boot up like a normal PS3 or boot up like a Linux computer. I'm gonna check the PS3 forums to see if there's any info posted about using a WinMo device.
READ THIS:
BennY- said:
www.mobilesrc.com does the same without client software on the computer
also take a look on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425686&page=1
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Same Problem
Reamer said:
Anybody have this working on a Fuze? The only thing that will open is GMouse, and the only things that work inside it is the left click and moving the cursor but that only works if the left mouse click is held down making me highlight a bunch of stuff.
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I have the exact same problem on my fuze running energy rom 2.0. anybody get it working on a fuze?
thedocrn said:
Same here. I tried a Logitech wireless keyboard with touchpad that's specifically made to use with a PS3. The zoom feature was aweful when using the web browser, so I returned it.
There's a way to format the PS3's hard drive to either boot up like a normal PS3 or boot up like a Linux computer. I'm gonna check the PS3 forums to see if there's any info posted about using a WinMo device.
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No2Chem has a tool that lets you use the they keyboard but with a usb cable heres a link
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueUSBKeyboard.aspx