i posted this on ppcgeeks but yet to have a response.
i am having a hard time finding live feeds from the major tv carriers (ABC,CBS,FOX etc.) does anyone know how to get streaming live tv? everytime i think i have something its a news or weather. just looking for simple tv streams so i can use my pc as a television and watch live streaming prime time shows.
if the network dont stream their stuff there is little you can do
jlc's internet tv
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joost
stream alot of stuff though
thank you. i will try that
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I am trying to get the Orb to stream the TV from my VirginMedia/WinTV PVR-150 without much success. I can stream everything else, video, music etc but not the TV.
Anybody got this working?
It is working fine for me over wifi and hsdpa.
I am viewing the streams in windows media player at a fixed (non speed test) speed.
Occasionally I get sound with a distorted image on a couple of the BBC channels but otherwise it works well.
My next project is to be able to orb a sopcast stream to allow me to view live soccer games.
Are you able to view tv streams on a PC? The forums and wiki at the orb site may be able to pinpoint any issues relating to your specific tv card.
Anyone know of a way to stream audio/video from your home PC from media center to the G1, like the way orb.com does for a windows mobile device.
You can do it now. I haven't had the best luck with video, but I have streamed audio and pics from my computer to my phone. Just go to the orb site from the browser and it all happens there.
Orb has an app for the iPhone. Only a matter of time...
Orb have made some improvements for G1, but I am still having some issues viewing live TV and videos.
When I connect within the same network (Orb streaming PC and G1 are sharing the same public IP) I am able to watch TV and video. When I try to connect from another place I just receive "Sorry this video cannot be played". I have opened port 554 and 13398 to 13401 of my router, but still no success.
For the iPhone, Orb have made a native app because there is no RTSP (real time streaming protocol) for iPhone. G1 is RTSP capable so it shouldn't be necessary to have a special app for G1.
Some disappointing news from the UK: http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2338217/uk-broadcasters-shun-google-chromecast. Catchup TV is particularly scathing as they say that the CC simply isn't powerful enough to handle live TV. I put this to the test by tab casting a live iplayer broadcast and it was fine, maybe a little slow.. If I was casting directly from the app, it would surely have been even better. I do have a fairly speedy connection though, 100 mbps cable. What we other people's experiences with casting live TV?
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Some disappointing news from the UK: http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2338217/uk-broadcasters-shun-google-chromecast. Catchup TV is particularly scathing as they say that the CC simply isn't powerful enough to handle live TV. I put this to the test by tab casting a live iplayer broadcast and it was fine, maybe a little slow.. If I was casting directly from the app, it would surely have been even better. I do have a fairly speedy connection though, 100 mbps cable. What we other people's experiences with casting live TV?
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Sounds like a cop-out to me. Sounds more like they don't want to put the effort into it. A proper live stream would simply pull from an Internet stream, same as the current apps do.
A live stream may not have as many flavors or quite as much compression as a pre-recorded stream can, but that doesn't stop it from working. More likely either their live encoder hardware is simply not tuned for a Chromecast-compatible compression profile, or they don't want to put the effort into modifying their app to transfer credentials to Chromecast (otherwise any viewer who accessed the same URL could get the live stream for free).
Lots of Content providers who already have access to the big screen via Tuner will be hesitant...Because they feel they already support and have the Big Screen model they prefer and it makes billions for them!
Their foray into Tab and Mobile streaming is merely to capture those screens which have no tuner support.
And their mindset is that if they support the Big Screen via CCast they will lose out on all the money they make on the Tuner subs.
They aren't wrong about that part but what they don't seem to realize is they are going to lose that money anyway as more content is available via the Web and people start cutting cords.
And as more of their competition realizes and adds support for this new Big Screen methodology they will either jump onto the ship or risk it sailing away without them.
It's difficult to get a business to change the way they make money when the old method has made it for them for half a century and switch to a new way of making even more money by cutting out the middleman.
They could charge more for a sub than they get per subscriber from the cable companies now.
And people would pay it provided they got to pick and choose which networks they pay for (ala Carte) and could view it on any screen they may own.
Music Industry once faced this same dilemma, they picked wrong and look what happened to their industry!
The same will happen to TV if they don't open their eyes and smell the Data!
They will lose the subs, People will pirate the shows they want to see, No way to record ratings or views and if that happens they won't even have the money to implement the new methods or create new programming...
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Some disappointing news from the UK: http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2338217/uk-broadcasters-shun-google-chromecast. Catchup TV is particularly scathing as they say that the CC simply isn't powerful enough to handle live TV. I put this to the test by tab casting a live iplayer broadcast and it was fine, maybe a little slow.. If I was casting directly from the app, it would surely have been even better. I do have a fairly speedy connection though, 100 mbps cable. What we other people's experiences with casting live TV?
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Live streaming via iPlayer app over WiFi works just fine with CC, so I don't really know what the TV Catchup issue is or what their "extensive tesing" actually involved. Do we even know why YouTube doesn't support live streams on CC? Since they point to this as justification. Some of the comments seemed odd - like the one suggesting that the app needed to stream to CC directly, rather than CC playing the given URL, or that VOD content was only "okayish" (have they even tried the Netflix or Play Movies apps?)
The other UK broadcasters as we know are just talking out their backsides as usual.
Having said that, there's little value for me in streaming live channels via CC when they're just a button press away on my TV ...
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The other UK broadcasters as we know are just talking out their backsides as usual.
Having said that, there's little value for me in streaming live channels via CC when they're just a button press away on my TV ...
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Yes. I've had iPlayer on my Chromecasts since it launched but never watched live TV. Why would anyone in the UK want to watch PSB broadcasters live this way - unless their TV was broken or something. I accept there is a market among expats but that would be irrelevant to the broadcasters.
Anyway, just tested it for the first time on 40" and 19" sets and live streams work perfectly. Better than direct from the website in fact since there is none of the trademark judder. To be fair though it is only a matter of time before the BBC starts to offer live 720p streams (the Winter Olympics feeds worked beautifully for those with good connection speeds) so perhaps our sticks would cope less well with these?
But the whole point of these players is for catch up TV - this is a very disappointing cop-out and even more reason to praise the BBC for getting their app up and running with Chromecast so promptly.
This post is relevant to me as I am UK based, have two chromecasts and my second TV does not have an aerial connection.
I've followed TV Catchup's position on this and I have to say I agree that it is a complete cop-out on their part. More fool them. If iPlayer, Redbull TV and (monday update of) BT sport can integrate casting then their excuse that the CC is not powerful enough is wide of the mark.
My experience of live streams from iPlayer is top notch but I have an excellent fibre optic connection.
So, for my second TV I have embarked on a quest to find a work around.
TV Catchup + Mirror app. Works OK. Resolution is as you'd expect, watchable but no where near HD. Sound quality also suffers. So whilst this solution is boarderline acceptable. It's not great.
XBMC =AVIA. Awesome. ALMOST a fully comprehensive solution for me. I am using the XAF version with 1channel, icefilms and Mashup with playercorefactory set up for Avia. This is great for ondemand services BUT live streams fail to start. This is particularly annoying for me as I subscribe to Offside Streams (for my sports) and I cannot get this to work outside of casting a chrome tab. THIS is my holy grail.
Plex Channels = The Plex live channels I have found to be hit and miss. There are not enough channels of interest and it is a lottery if they work.
BUBBLE UPNP - So I have set up a transcoding server for Bubble. It's delightful. When casting local/network/server files from Android the PC does the grunt work. It pretty much maxes out my quad core 8GB rig, but playback is perfectly acceptable for me.
What I would love to do with Bubble UPnP is fire up a live stream which is transcoded by my server rig and cast to the CC. This would offer me the solution I crave but I have no idea if it is even possible.
New Tasker Plugin - AUTOCAST. This has promise and I will be spending a few more hours setting it up. It is not for the less tech/tasker savvy. So far I have combined it with AutoShare to share local media files direct from the galley or a file explorer. It even runs videos from the chrome browser IF the website is compatible. IF more websites were compatible, this would be my casting of choice. I really like it's functionality once it has been set up correctly. The dev is publishing some guides on this from Monday.
I am watching you JW PLAYER. Now JW is the player of choice for many large companies websites. They have just announced chromecast support (to be rolled out) and I think this will open the door to new horizons.
Obviously, I'd love to see ITV player, 4OD and Demand Five release both Chromecast support and live streaming from their respective apps. I won't hold my breath. BBC, I am not fond of your general operations but I have to applaud you as an early adopter. BT sport is an added bonus. SKY and SKY GO is as closed shop as they come so let's write that off before we begin.
I have every faith that some smart dev will release a player that can pull flash and html5 video from websites and cast to chromecast. I'd love to see a JW Player app but I think MX Player will be the first there.
GO DEVS GO, I have cash waiting.
Funny I don't think Google intended the Chrome cast to be powerful. The new Amazon TV can handle lots. Roku 3 pretty solid. I am more disappointed that to get the most out of Chromecast you have to be in the USA for one thing and the UK for another. Using a VPN is possible but more complicated then other devices I have. It is cheap.
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What I would love to do with Bubble UPnP is fire up a live stream which is transcoded by my server rig and cast to the CC. This would offer me the solution I crave but I have no idea if it is even possible.
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I have every faith that some smart dev will release a player that can pull flash and html5 video from websites and cast to chromecast. I'd love to see a JW Player app but I think MX Player will be the first there.
GO DEVS GO, I have cash waiting.
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BubbleUPnP can cast live streams from the browser - I'm just not 100% sure on compatibility and how it integrates with the Server. So far I've only tried mp4 streams which just work and don't need any transcoding.
The way it works for me using Firefox browser - 1) go to streaming website and open your video - often Firefox itself can't play the video. 2) Long press the video to bring up a share menu - one of the options is 'open with app' - click that and BubbleUPnP is an option. 3) Select BubbleUPnP and if the Chromecast is already set as the Renderer the stream is on your TV.
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BubbleUPnP can cast live streams from the browser - I'm just not 100% sure on compatibility and how it integrates with the Server. So far I've only tried mp4 streams which just work and don't need any transcoding.
The way it works for me using Firefox browser - 1) go to streaming website and open your video - often Firefox itself can't play the video. 2) Long press the video to bring up a share menu - one of the options is 'open with app' - click that and BubbleUPnP is an option. 3) Select BubbleUPnP and if the Chromecast is already set as the Renderer the stream is on your TV.
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BubbleUPnP can transcode (if necessary and provided that BubbleUPnP Server is installed) videos from any source, including http video URLs sent from web browsers or any other app.
As for streaming live content not web related, I've got report of users streaming live TV streams in TS format served by some specialized boxes (like the HD HomeRun), and transcoded by BubbleUPnP Server on the fly to be compatible. Theorically it should also work with any media server serving live streams like MythTV and others.
Today I was trying to watch a live YouTube stream from my phone. I got the message that live streams were not permitted on my Chromecast.
I then tried casting the same stream from my desktop. It worked. To verify that I wasn't just casting a chrome tab, I closed all of the chrome windows. The stream kept working.
I also tried casting the stream from chrome beta for android. I didn't get an error, but the casting didn't work. I just got a black screen on the phone and a YouTube screen on the TV.
Is there a way around this restriction? Can I cast a live feed from my android phone to my Chromecast?
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Ken F
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Today I was trying to watch a live YouTube stream from my phone. I got the message that live streams were not permitted on my Chromecast.
I then tried casting the same stream from my desktop. It worked. To verify that I wasn't just casting a chrome tab, I closed all of the chrome windows. The stream kept working.
I also tried casting the stream from chrome beta for android. I didn't get an error, but the casting didn't work. I just got a black screen on the phone and a YouTube screen on the TV.
Is there a way around this restriction? Can I cast a live feed from my android phone to my Chromecast?
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Being that live streams aren't supposed to work, either you got lucky, or they're working on it.
Not much you can do but wait to see if YouTube updates its info and/or capabilities.
Live streams work for me from my laptop but not from my phone as well. I don't think it's a mistake, I just don't think the mobile app has added that feature yet.
As I understand it the chromecast doesnt render the video but connects to youtube and plays a specially renderd version for the chrome cast, I guess this is not available live. When you cast from a pc the pc renders the video for you.
YouTube added this support on the Website just recently.....
Coming to an Android App near you at some point!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...romecast-but-only-from-the-desktop-right-now/
Private Videos too!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...lay-private-youtube-videos-on-the-chromecast/
Looks like the next Android and iOS will remove the live limitation to casting. They may be beta testing it by only offering it on the website for the moment.
I think u should remove it, maybe it is beta?
I am really on the fence about getting a CC but the only real uses I see are the occasional screen mirroring, netflix, and youtube. i would do a local media server from my home computer but i'd rather run smoothvideo project and get 60fps and just use my 15ft hdmi cable, but if I had the ability to just use my phone to tell my CC to start playing music while im winding down at night i'd but it in a heartbeat, would this be possible with any of the awesome things you guys have done with CC? for reference I am talking about http://www.di.fm which is an awesome free (I paid to remove ads + boost quality) stream for electronic music. Thanks guys.
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I am really on the fence about getting a CC but the only real uses I see are the occasional screen mirroring, netflix, and youtube. i would do a local media server from my home computer but i'd rather run smoothvideo project and get 60fps and just use my 15ft hdmi cable, but if I had the ability to just use my phone to tell my CC to start playing music while im winding down at night i'd but it in a heartbeat, would this be possible with any of the awesome things you guys have done with CC? for reference I am talking about http://www.di.fm which is an awesome free (I paid to remove ads + boost quality) stream for electronic music. Thanks guys.
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spoticast with spotify can play music to your cc
Spoticast is sure useful for Spotify. He was however asking for Internet radio or specifically di.fm. Tunein has them but does not currently support chromecast. I have been tipped myself about Audials https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.audials which supports chromecast. Have never tested it myself and not sure if it has the same stations like tunein. I'm also not sure about how it works with subscribed stations.
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I am really on the fence about getting a CC but the only real uses I see are the occasional screen mirroring, netflix, and youtube. i would do a local media server from my home computer but i'd rather run smoothvideo project and get 60fps and just use my 15ft hdmi cable, but if I had the ability to just use my phone to tell my CC to start playing music while im winding down at night i'd but it in a heartbeat, would this be possible with any of the awesome things you guys have done with CC? for reference I am talking about http://www.di.fm which is an awesome free (I paid to remove ads + boost quality) stream for electronic music. Thanks guys.
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Just use MirrorEnabler.apk to screencast the entire screen and any app.
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Just use MirrorEnabler.apk to screencast the entire screen and any app.
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Will that work for background audio though?
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Will that work for background audio though?
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It should pass any audio that would be going out your phone over to the chromecast. Can't say I personally tested it when in the background however.
Xproplayer said:
I am really on the fence about getting a CC but the only real uses I see are the occasional screen mirroring, netflix, and youtube. i would do a local media server from my home computer but i'd rather run smoothvideo project and get 60fps and just use my 15ft hdmi cable, but if I had the ability to just use my phone to tell my CC to start playing music while im winding down at night i'd but it in a heartbeat, would this be possible with any of the awesome things you guys have done with CC? for reference I am talking about which is an awesome free (I paid to remove ads + boost quality) stream for electronic music. Thanks guys.
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(glad I googled the same thing because I have just now answered my own question) You can use BubbleUPnP (available in google Play store) to get DI to play on your Chromecast. In the settings for BubbleUPnP, it has a on/off switch for "audio cast." Start up DI, click the share button, select BubbleUpnP, make sure you have your Chromecast selected as the renderer, and that Audio Cast is on, and you are all set.
Sup...I listen to DIRadio a lot. When I do at home I just cast my screen to chromecast and it works as it should.
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Sup...I listen to DIRadio a lot. When I do at home I just cast my screen to chromecast and it works as it should.
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I'll be gosh-darned. This wasn't an option when I first wished to Chromecast DI but it works quite well these days. Thanks!
Audials has the DI stations
Johan1976 had a perfectly useful answer already: Get Audials and you can cast the work to your chromecast and listen to it there. Audials appears to have every DI.fm station on it. I happen to love the Drum&Bass station. Anyway, this option is better than just casting your phone's screen to the TV because you can have your privacy and do other things on your phone or even turn your phone off while the music keeps playing on your TV. In addition, you might learn about many other stations that aren't in DI.fm, and it has a 'favorites' system which is very convenient.
PEACE
Today actually tunein also works great with chromecast.
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for reference I am talking about http://www.di.fm
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You can pretty much play DI channel's through Chromecast, but just not through the app itself yet, unless you mirror your android.
All streams that connect with Chromecast use HTML5, and DI channels including (House, Progressive, Jazz house, etc) are broadcast throughout other radios too. The point is each channel has its own stream link, which is usually played in an HTML5 format when you use chrome.
Here's DI's House channel: http://pub8.di.fm/di_house
Try it, you can stream this through Chromecast, preferably through your android which is the easiest.
These links are obtainable through DI's page or through iTunes and come in either .m3u or .pls format.