Hi,
I am planning to buy extra USB sync cables for my Tilt. I plan to use it as a car charger with a USB car charger ( http://www.meritline.com/car-travel-charger-black-593.html )
Will any USB A-B cable work or do I need to pay attention to which cable I buy (4 pin, 5 pin etc).
Regards
Nick
Any regular USB cable'll work.
i read somewhere some ppl where warning against this, make sure u do some good reading b4 plugging it in
Forget that car charger and get an official HTC one. If you search a bit you'll see that more than enough people have fried their USB port/charging circuit with no-name chargers wanting to spare $10...
Related
My 220V adapter that conects to the cradle is broken (gives only 0.7-1V).
According to O2 NL the 1 year warranty is only for the XDA itself, and they seem NOT to sell the 220V adapter separate!
Any ideas if a universal ~220V / 4.5V or 5V adapter should work with the cradle???
Marco
If it is a USB cradle, you can also modify it, to get the power of the PC directly.
Normaly all universal adapter will work. You just have to take a look at the size of the connector, polartiy of the connector ( + and - ), and the voltage of it. I think the power consume is low, so that you don´t need a Adapter with 100W...
Regards
stefan
I use the Adapter of a Nokia 6310 on the road.. it has 5.7V and the same plug as the XDA
Fidl
Does the Nokia adapter works 100% oke? Because it is just 500ma and the original XDA adapter is 1000ma?
Yes it works ok!
I am using it for about half a year now most of the time and i did not experience any problems
Fidl
220V adapter
Hey
i needed to have 2 adapters for my XDA.
one for the office and the other to my house.
so what i did is i bought a direct USB XDA charger for 15$ and a FIXED 5.0 volts,1amps power supply from some phone srore - 5$.
im a computer tekkie so i got myself a USB female connector (you can buy the in a computer store for 3-5$) and i connected the VCC+ and Ground of the USB female connector to the power supply`s + and -, VUALA! its a perfet charger.
you can disconnect the USB cable from the female USB and use the cable so sync.
Thanks for the feedback Fidl.
Smart thinking Sonic ... as I already have an USB sync/charge cable this is a nice option
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere; I couldn't find anything.
I'm looking into getting some spare chargers for my Tilt. I read at Pocket PC Techs that the device has a distinct "fast charge" mode, that uses a special pinout. Is this true?
If so, does the charger that comes with the Tilt use this fast charge mode? It seems to be just a standard mini-USB charger (data sheet here).
The link to Pocket PC Techs is actually to an adapter that they sell that is suppose to give you a fast charge with any USB charger. I'm wondering under what circumstances I'd have to use this.
Anyone know what the fast charge pinout is, and which third-party chargers use it?
Thanks.
ISTR reading something about pins 4 & 5 being tied together on some chargers -- should be very easy to test this.
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
The USB charging is done with different connections and at a different mA rating. The mains charger is 1000mA and is what I would call the normal charging system (but what the site you show, refers to as fast charge - but only by comparison to USB charging) This is just about standard for many sync/charge PDAs and not a special feature of the Kaiser.
Mike
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
jallenclark said:
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, the Razor adapter only delivers 500mA not 1000mA
Mike
Plus the razor charger does not have the pins 4-5 shorted, this is a HTC tweak that lets the phone know that it's on a charger vs std. USB power and it may in fact charge at a higher rate upon detecting this. I just know that my Hermes occasionally did strange things like turn off BT radio and other odd things when connecting/disconnecting from different chargers. Kaiser seems better at this.
For a couple of weeks now, I have been charging my Kaiser at work by using the adapter that came with my Audiovox SMT5600. It's been working fine. I cannot however determine if this charges any faster or slower than the Kaiser's adapter.
Slow Charging
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
USB Charging
are there any issues iwth battery drain or lif when charging with the USB cable connected to a computer?
Thanks,
g
Is there a specific USB charger.
The pin out is the same as the Hermes?
mikechannon said:
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config....
Mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is that tested by anybody?
Frans. said:
Is that tested by anybody?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
HTC has developed a range of accessories that are compatible across all HTC devices for consumer's ease of use. These include the BH M200 (Bluetooth headset), HS U110 (3.5 mm audio adapter and headset), and the HS S200 (HTC standard stereo wired headset) to enable effective communications on the move.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
dscline said:
I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would like to use my old Himalaya MDA II Hands Free DSP Car Kit for my new Kaiser (as that I only have to buy a passive holder).
I tried to find a ExtUSB 11-lead Pre-wired Connector Plug ....but it is impossible..any suggestions?
It should be something like this one http://www.gomadic.com/comip10leadp.html
Sorry, can't help you there.
enigmaneo said:
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
coolVariable said:
I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mmm, that is a unique piece!! But the cable seems somewhat short.
I think at the end..I am going to combine following pieces to make the final connection to my old handsfree carkit.. (I hate soldering)
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b139762.jpg
http://www.allekabels.nl/Kroonsteentjes/35/3249/Kroonsteen.html
http://www.allekabels.nl/Monitor-Kabels/19/1342/Monitor-Kabel.html
Any problems with me using my old Razr car charger on my Kaiser? Typically I charge mine every night with the standard charger but in case of emergency I'd like to use my Razr car charger
Thanks
In answer to the original question, yes, pins 4 & 5 are shorted on the OEM charger that ships with the Tilts, thus enabling it to fast-charge the phone at currents greater than 500ma.
Hopefully this helps,
--W5i2
hi
i lost my USB for PC cable for jabra bt 8010.
please help me, show me what cable i can buy to replace it,
it seems that it can use some other cable to replace.
could you help me
so thanks
could i use the USB for PC cable for BT330/BT500/BT800/JX10/BT 8040 for BT8010.
or could i use universal usb cable which has the same size for this one?
because I tried to find out cable but failed, no one sells that.
please help me to answer this question.
thanks so much
hi, just like you i also need usb cable for my 8010. ive googled high & low but to no avaiL? especially as im in the Philippines . . maybe by this time you have new info? pls help & thanks
Its just a usb-to-micro-usb cable.
thanks, but the micro usb's available on ebay are for motorola & looking at the pics -> - > they look different . .
Micro usb is micro usb. Its a standard.
usb may be a standard, but ...
... apparently the cable ends are not. I've have three different Jabra headsets in the past several years, all of which used a usb charging cable and none of the usb cable ends on the headset side were compatible with each other. I made the mistake of ordering off ebay and the cables I received did not fit my 8010. My advice: Don't buy a usb cable unless the seller can confirm that the cable works with your particular headset.
@kihoalu
thanks very much. if you get wind of a supplier, pls post. im sure there are others who also need this cable
I wish I knew why yours are all different, my 8010 came with a standard micro-USB port. The charger and the computer sync cable are quite normal.
Does somebody know yet if this device needs pin4 and pin5 connected (ground) for fast-charging on micro-usb?
On my kaiser I needed to connect these two to be able to charge in my car with my standard USB-charger.
To keep this charger as a universal charger (hope its 2 Amperes won't fry my HD2), I need to buy new cables or a mini-usb to micro-usb adapter and might need to modify them.
I noticed that the battery on my kaiser was getting fairly hot on this 2amps. Is there a protecting circuit, or is this in a safe range for those batteries?
amperes of you charger are max current, wchich you cat have from the charger... it is all about, how much leo will take it is about voltage...
and sorry, no idea about this connectivity... if you will tell me, how to check this, i will check it for you...
So, if I understood correctly, the device determines how much Amps to be drawn?
If you take the wall-charger and you look onto the micro-usb plug:
Code:
_____________
\ , , , , , /
\_________/
PIN: 5 4 3 2 1
For a Kaiser device to fastcharge , pin 5 and 4 must be connected together.
On normal USB-cables (micro and mini) for data, pin4 has no function, it isn't even wired in the cable.
Do you have a volt-meter to check this?
Thanks!
USB A male to micro USB A male cable versus USB B cable?
Hello guys,
I bought my HD2 yesterday ! I am very happy with it.
I would like to buy 2 more cables on ebay (1 for the office, 1 for home).
Should I buy the
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable
OR
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable
I am a bit confused here.
I see 2 types of cables on ebay, not sure which one to buy!
Any ideas?
Thanks
If my assumptions are correct, and the cables work like on the Kaiser device, it's:
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable (for fast-charging, works with generic-usb car charger - NO data connection)
edit: WRONG, because micro-A-plug is not compatible with micro-B-socket.
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable (for data-connection and slow USB-charging)
Still needs confirmation by an HD2-user, but I don't think HTC changed something going from mini to micro-plug. (I think they dropped EXT-usb design for having an extra 3,5mm headset-jack instead. - but that shouldn't confuse you)
Well, not exactly:
Type A is to be plugged into host-device (the one supplying power to the other device, usually the charger or your computer), whereas type B is to be plugged into the target device (in this case, the HD2).
This typology exists to prevent you from linking two power suppliers at both ends of the cable...
So what you need is a "USB Type A to Micro USB Type B" cable
That's the original USB-specs, you are referring to.
Mini/micro-A-plugs are using pin4-to-ground by these USB-spec, for electronically differenciating these.
What I wanted to pinpoint, is that HTC decided to mark pin4-to-ground for detection of their charging equipment.
And since micro-A plugs fit into micro-B sockets, you should be able to use a "USB A male to micro USB A male cable" for your charging needs (without modifying your micro-B cable, which can be quite tricky because of its size)
edit: I was wrong with that, it's the other way round, sry. Does the HD2 have a AB-socket then? I believe it's a regular B-socket.
Then if I stand correctly, you will still need a special modified micro-B-cable for charging.
To make it even more difficult, HTC-design does not charge the Kaiser with a regular mini-b-cable on a car-charger, because there was no data-signal on it.
My intention of this thread was asking, if this behavior has changed when going from mini to micro-usb design, and is still an unanswered question.
sayborg said:
Hello guys,
...
I would like to buy 2 more cables on ebay (1 for the office, 1 for home).
Should I buy the
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable
OR
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable
I am a bit confused here.
I see 2 types of cables on ebay, not sure which one to buy!
Any ideas?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...same for me. may I have a clear and "safe" answer for dummie?
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable
OR
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable
Thanks a lot.
only USB-B-male fit into the device, boy!
Well, I've seen unboxing videos now, and the wall-charger ... is a normal-USB-plug-in device like a car-charger. Seems that my intention of this thread is obsolete.
My problem is simple, i'm tethering my Wifi Nexus 10 to my Galaxy S3 and the S3 just doesn't have the staying power of the tablet and the AP is battery intensive.
I have considered:
Extended battery (unofficial) - don't want the bulk.
Extended battery (official) - not cost effective.
The other option would be usb otg and charger cable but I'd like a single cable if possible.
To make it clear - I'm looking for a double ended micro usb (B) cable.
If anyone knows of a reason this wouldn't work please do say
You could use this adapter with your original cable to see if it dies the job.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Right-Angle...006572?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27ccd180ac
I have the same setup (nexus10 and s3) let us know if it does work.
You could try monoprice.com. I get all of my cords and such from them.
eBuyer tend to be pretty good for this stuff.
Just FYI, I tried this using an OTG adapter and a standard USB-A to USB-B micro cable. Depending on which side I plug the OTG adapter into, the S3 charges the Nexus (when the adapter is plugged into the S3) or vice versa (when the adapter is plugged into the N10).
EDIT: It would be interesting to try though what would happen if one was to connect the four pins (VCC, D+, D-, GND) directly to one another, with the ID pin being left unconnected (since that is what a Micro-B to Micro-B cable would most likely do). My guess is that nothing will happen, since neither of the devices assumes a master/slave state and so it doesn't know that it should supply power to the other device. I guess I need to order some Micro-B plugs at Digi-Key and whip up a cable...
--fbrozovic