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Hi guys...sorry if this is already answered here, but I just got a supposedly 'unlocked' AT&T Tilt from eBay and put in my Rogers SIM card. It seems to work OK on the data side of things - gleefully accessing the internet and even syncing my email, but I can't get the voice calls to work. Even shows '3G' for the data connection.
Whenever anyone calls me, they get a couple of rings and it goes to my voicemail. If I try to call out, it dials, then immediately ends the call when it tries to connect.
The SIM card is OK I know, since it works in my Eten X500 just fine.
Do I have to do something to the phone to completely remove the AT&T stuff?
Help...I love the phone, but if it won't make voice calls....
Thanks.
/drt
I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.
You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.
asfoor said:
You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.
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Thanks... any particular suggestions? I'm thinking of flashing the unit with QMobile 1.2, but I don't think that comes with a radio ROM...I guess I should pick one up from the Upload area?
Thanks again for the help.
/drt
xconradx said:
I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.
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I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt
drtolson said:
I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt
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rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought
here is a link to the radio thread, where you can download the 1.27.12.17 radio...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
zakhir_n said:
rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought
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OK, the radio I currently have is 1.27.12.11. Do I have to HardSPL before I install the new radio? Also, I notice you've SuperCID unlocked as well... do I need to do that also?
Thanks for the link to the radio file.
/drt
Well, I got it to work, but...
The ongoing saga continues....
a) HardSPL'd and Flashed in a new radio 1.27.12.17. No change.
b) Played with the network settings a bit, and could occassionally get the phone to 'downgrade' to an Edge cx, and voila! the phone started working. But AT&T's software doesn't give me the option to 'hold' it there.
c) Talked to Rogers tech support -- pretty helpful really. They asked for the # of my SIM card and said it wasn't a '3G' card (it IS pretty old) and suggested I get a new one from the local guys. Went up, got one for free (since I gave them my old one) and tried it -- No luck, same problem.
d) Flashed QMobile 1.2 ROM -- still getting the at&t screen on initial startup, but everything else seems good and the HTC-ish stuff it's supposed to be.
e) Went to configure the phone band settings. If I leave them on 'Auto', it finds the Rogers 3G network and hooks up, but the same problem arises -- when it finishes dialing and tries to connect, it just ends the calls. And incoming calls go directly to my voicemail. HOWEVER, if I specifically configure it for GSM network and the 1900+850 bands, then it locks onto Edge and the phone works fine.
I guess it's back to tech support with Rogers to see what they have to say about my account, etc.
Very Weird.
/drt
similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..
Comatose said:
similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..
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Yup...from that thread, the description sounds EXACTLY like the difficulties I'm experiencing. It appears to be a hardware failure... Unfortunately, I bought from a guy on eBay, so I'm not sure I can send it in for repair. It works on Edge though, and that will be good enough for now.
Thanks everyone for the help.
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Ok here is my problem!
I have purchased a used Tytn II and it has some problems!
I sent it in for repair (still under warranty) 3 times and they told me they have fixed the problems, but the problems are still there!
I finally asked for a replacement device and they told me that they never replace phones, no matter what the problem is!
Here are the problems I have with my phone:
It loses connection ever so often, it turns off and on (restarts) and it sometimes tells me that there is no sim card, even tough the sim card is present and functioning!
My question is, how can I convince them to give me a new phone?
Becouse it is apparent that they are unable to fix the problem!
The warranty is going to expire soon!
Please I would be glad if someone could give me some suggestions!
Any suggestions at all!
Well you can try going up the chain, or filing a report with a company like the Better Business Bureau.
You can also try and see if there is a Rom update or one of the cooked roms that you can install here that might fix the problem... or even another radio.
Sometimes, and more often then not, those problems are caused by software then hardware.
If you do decide to try another radio or rom, make sure you read through the Wiki first. IF you do this and dont read through the instructions first, you can ruin your phone.
I don't know who your carrier is, but there is a one year warranty with at$t. Unless it is carelessness. i.e. LIberal application of oil.
but like the previous poster stated, more than likely it is software. Please provide a little more information. What rom, radio and apps do you have installed?
OK guys, here’s the deal… I have a big problem with my MDA Compact IV (T-mobile’s version of the HTC Diamond). As it is a simlock free device, I’m using my Vodafone sim card. I hope one of you experts can help! I’ve been through just about the entire internet and this forum and found that there are more people with the same problem, but I haven’t found a working solution yet.
What happened:
- I got my MDA, didn’t like the T-mobile branding so before even using the phone with the original software, I’ve upgraded to SPL-1.40.OliNex, Radio 1.00.25.05 and the original HTC Touch Diamond 1.93.404.1 Dutch Stock ROM.
- I also installed a few programs like Klaxon, Tomtom 7 and S2U2.
- After a few hours of playing with my device I noticed that there were some problems with the sound. When I receive a call there is no sound, when I answer the call the caller can’t hear me and I can’t hear him. Same problem when I make a call myself. None of the systems sounds work. This can only be solved after soft reset.
- These sound problems occur completely random. Sometimes it works for hours and sometimes just minutes after the reset.
What I’ve done to try to solve the problem:
- I de-installed all the programs, but did not fix the problem.
- I went over all the sound settings, but did not find anything wrong.
- I did a hard reset, but this didn’t solve anything.
- I returned to the original t-mobile stock ROM. This also wasn’t the solution.
I’m getting quite desperate here. I love the phone, it’s looks and possibilities, but it’s a real problem if you can’t even use it to make and receive calls. I still see that as a basic function when you buy a phone
EDIT: OK guys, finally after nine weeks of waiting, calling and emailing the repair center, I got my device back and what do you think....? Problem fixed! It turned out to be a hardware problem. I don't know exactly what they did, but my phone works just fine now. I reflashed to the AZTOR NLD ROM and now I'm the proud owner of a working phone! Big thanks for all of your support!
Reinstall the stock SPL and stock ROM and take it back under warranty - sounds like a hardware issue to me. I haven't read about anyone else with this problem and since you seem to have already tried most software related fixes I'd start looking at the hardware. Just wait until you lose sound one day and then take it back so they can see the problem first hand! I can't see anyone arguing with that.
I had the some problem, only once, and it was because of installing some cabs (I don't remember which ones, though). The speaker didn't work at all.
I suggest that you put a new lite firmware (Swift works great to me!) and try for some time
Well I've had the same problem and apparently UK Orange know that its a hardware fault and are replacing my handset tomorrow.
I've tried every rom going and every radio going and still had the problem which definately suggests its hardware fault.
If you can I'd return it to your sim provider and get a replacement.
Still no solution
I just returned the phone to the shop. I'll keep you posted...
I had the same issue, returned it to the shop.
They will swap it with another one since it's a hardware fault.
Same problem. I send back Diamond to HTC.
I hope that they'll change it with another without problem.
I had the same problem with one of the early unbranded Diamonds. HTC Europe replaced it as being a sort of DOA (dead on arrival) without any restriction. It took some weeks but all ended well!
Need help!
My diamond searches for carrier, but can not find it. Whan i manually select the network, it shows all available, but when it select one, it sais "no signal". When I try to call, it sometimes reboots. On some roms it reboots in a loop, showing htc animation. Without a sim card it works fine. No reboots.
Phone is shure GSM/3G, and it is sim unlocked.
I set up HardSPL, I flashed different radio versions, and roms as writen here. Nothing works. Any suggestions how to make it work?
have the same problem too here man, running t mobile. have tried a whole lot of roms and radios but no luck. I have gotten rid of the restarting problem now but it just cant find a signal to my network, im about to just give up and send it back in
Some more details on the issue.
It works fine, when I plug it into the charge.
Sometimes I can call when it`s plugged into my PC USB.
Doesn`t work without any external power.
A local service center (not HTC) said, the "gsm-radio module" is broken (hardware), and they don’t have any to replace it. They may replace it, if I find the analog.
Does anyone know, which "gsm-radio module" is used in diamond, and are there any other phones (Samsung, nokia ...) with the module, that will fit in diamond?
Does the official htc service repair the phones, if there is no guarantee?
Please help me someone
ya i get a signal too when its in the charger, but still get many dropped calls. it sucks that so few people have this problem and there has yet to be a solution to it. I think im just going to send it back to htc to get it fixed as it does not seem to be a software issue.
I've also recently started having this problem. Mine seems to work fine if it's at 80%+ charge, but as soon as it drops below, it has problems connecting to the carrier.
I've emailed HTC a couple days ago, but haven't heard back from them.
EDIT: Want to add that I'm on 1.93.831.1 WWE ROM and 1.08.25.20 Radio.
I don't have the restarting problem, but I do have a "fake" reception problem where it'll show that I'm connected and have signal, but I won't be able to make or receive calls.
Bumping this thread to see if there's been any progress with this issue.
HTC STILL hasn't replied to my queries. I've since sent another one and haven't gotten a response. Their customer service really is terrible.
same problem here :/
Hello all!
Just to start things of, I have read trough the forum and I've googled around alot about this but it doesn't look like anyne has ever posted what worked to fix this.
If there's someone that has sent in their kaiser to have the mb replaced could you please send me some sort of email where they state it is a factory problem? the warranty is out and I really don't want to pay for a new mb on this 2 year old phone.
I've tried several different radios and none of them work, currently using wm6.1 downloaded from htc.com.
Problem is as the topic states it doesn't work in 3g. As it tries to connect to the 3g network it just searches, but never connects.
Some of the threads I've read says that the ppl get it working sometimes, but for me it never happens.
I have got a working 3g simcard, and I've tried the card in another telephone and there it workds perfectly.
The phone is a HTC Tytn II
Anyone that can help me? thanks
It still just sounds like a radio problem. Have you tried the whole list of radios? Trying "several" might not be enough. As long as you have hardSPL'd your device there's no harm in trying the whole list of radios from here, starting with newest first and working your way up the list.
I'll try them all.. back in an hour .
There.. tried them all.
It connects to a 3g network, then when I try to make a phonecall or data session it just disconnects.
the closest I got was with the neon 1.58.25.17 where it was still connected even after the failed phonecall. It just beeps a couple of time and then it says I'm not connected to any network.
Just a little thought...
I've read that wcdma here in europe is at 2100 / 900.. but in my phone I can only choose between UMTS 2100, 1900+850 and 2100 + 800.
No I'm just dumb sorry..
Why not get it checked out professionally?
Maybe it's a damaged tracer inside the antenna sticker. It shouldn't cost much to get an HTC service centre to access what's wrong (although if it does require a new motherboard and they don't cover it under warranty, it'll probably be uneconomic to repair. Make sure it's fully reverted to a from the factory state (no hardSPL and original ROM/Radio/SPL) before taking it in though.
Well, that is the next logic step.
As I said in my first post, I have read on other forums aswell as this where people have had problem with this exact same thing and if anyone of them had it fixed with software I'd like to know.
You could buy a broken one on ebay for parts and just swap out that motherboard for your own instead of sending it to HTC. Its fairly straightforward to replace it.
Regards
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As I said in my first post, I have read on other forums aswell as this where people have had problem with this exact same thing and if anyone of them had it fixed with software I'd like to know.
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If you've restored it back to an as from the factory state (with all original ROM/Radio and SPL) and it's no longer behaving as it did when it was new (test with the memory card removed) then that proves the difference must be due to hardware changes/failures if you test it in areas where there's known good 3G coverage and the same sim gets good 3G coverage in another phone. If you haven't done this yet, I'd suggest you do (you didn't say if you changed back from hardSPL to OEM, it shouldn't make a difference but at least you'll know it's 100 % original). Preferably test it with an HTC WM 6.0 ROM/Radio/SPL. If that doesn't make a difference, before rushing out and spending money on motherboards etc, get it checked out by an HTC professional - the small cost of such testing may save you more money in the long run on parts that aren't actually needed. A work-around that's been used to get reception (although not in 3G) is to change the band just to GSM from Auto.
Good luck finding someone who's been through your exact scenario but this is something you can do in the mean time.
Hi ldjocke, I live in Italy and my Kaiser works fine with 3G (checked with Vodafone, TIM and 3 operators...)
Looking at band selection in phone settings, I can found:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Choosing Auto it succesfully connects...
In Italy GSM uses 900 and 1800 and UMTS uses 2100...
Where do you live?
Hello Ppelleg.
I'm in sweden, and got thesame settings as you on my phone.
Afther reading through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074 I'm confident that it's a hardware issue. Sending it in and will be back with information.
Just wanted to close this thread.. I sent it in for repair and as everyone said in the thread that I linked to in an earlier post it was the 3gcircuit that was burned.
But.. the price it cost me to fix it is the same as buying a brand new HTC HD2 (6880sek) and that's just not right.
Still looking for anyone that has gotten it in written from htc that the tytn had a couple of faulty boards. There should be some way around this massive amount..
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Just wanted to close this thread.. I sent it in for repair and as everyone said in the thread that I linked to in an earlier post it was the 3gcircuit that was burned.
But.. the price it cost me to fix it is the same as buying a brand new HTC HD2 (6880sek) and that's just not right.
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What did the the HTC repair centre had caused the board to fail? What did they say when you questioned them about having heard of such an issue with older models of the phone? If the price was going to be astronomical, they should have contacted you to get the go-ahead first (unless you'd given them authority to go ahead no matter what the cost).
Some points to put to them.