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Doesn't charge via wall charger, OK car and usb

Hello Group
My Kaiser has stopped charging via a wall charger. I woke up this morning, and the battery had not charged at all
Some notes
-This problem occurs with 2 different chargers from 2 different outlets
-The device does show the charging indicators (lights and icons) even though it isn't charging
-The device does charge on PC USB port
-The device does charge on the car charger
-No visual bending of the USB pin
I've searched forums, and although I can find references to the opposite issue (wall power OK, USB power or car power NG), I can't seem to find any reference to what I'm seeing. My apologies to the group if I've missed any previous thread regarding this.
Thanks to all who help.

hello, strange problem. have you powered off the phone, pull out battery and try again, see if that might help
lupe

overhaulengines said:
hello, strange problem. have you powered off the phone, pull out battery and try again, see if that might help
lupe
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Yup, and I have removed and re-inserted the battery.
I thought this also might have to do with a battery going bad, but from what I understand a wall charger gives more power than a usb port, so, again, if that were the case I'd think the opposite would be true
And I did find the thread on some Kaisers are eating up a lot of idle current, but after standby BatteryStatus/HomeScreen PlusPlus says just 1 ma

It sounds like your wall charger has gone bad. It may provide enough current to light up the charge LED, but it certainly doesn't have enough power to charge the battery. Try another wall charger- they all work the same way. I have a number of USB-mini devices and they all interchange for charging.

lsica said:
My Kaiser has stopped charging via a wall charger. I woke up this morning, and the battery had not charged at all
Some notes
-This problem occurs with 2 different chargers from 2 different outlets
-The device does show the charging indicators (lights and icons) even though it isn't charging
-The device does charge on PC USB port
-The device does charge on the car charger
-No visual bending of the USB pin
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For what it's worth, you are NOT alone! The EXACT same thing has been happening to me on and off now for the past several months. At first, I thought it was the wall charger (I have 3 iGo chargers); however, ALL 3 of them failed to charge. I can understand one them failing, but ALL 3? No way. In my case, the car charger wasn't working either (it's also from iGo).
I ended up having to charge by USB. I eventually thought it was a battery problem, so I bought a new battery.
That worked...until the problem re-appeared again. The bottom line for me right now is that every now and then the wall charging does not work. So it will work fine for some time and then it will not, and then it starts to work again, etc. This erratic behavior happens with both batteries.
The duration of the wall charging working/not working is not fixed, I have found. For example, I have gone a couple of months of it charging fine and then it stops. At other times, it has been as short as a day. In any case, I usually find out about the problem in the morning, when I still see the amber charging light.
I'm convinced it's a Tilt problem.

I've loaded HomeScreenPlus to monitor current draw, and have seen the following:
-One wall charger is showing positive current (negative draw) SOMETIMES, and during those times it does charge the phone. This unit also makes the charge light turn off and on when I jiggle the plugs or cable. Obviously this charger is just broken.
-Another charger does not turn off/on the charge light or current draw when the wire is jiggled, but also never shows a positive current on the phone. This is an IGo charger, and based on previous posts here I'm thinking they just don't supply enough current to charge the phone. in other words, they suck
Any one have recomendations for a replacement wall charger for my Tilt?

i had the same issue with my htc tytn. no charger worked well for more than 5 minutes, until i got an official htc charger from my wifes shadow... now i use it because it works... and she uses the 3rd party one that came with my hermes when i bought it used... it charges her smart phone just fine, i assume beause it requires less juice? I dont know, but get a official htc branded charger... black berries have the same issue after they start getting a little old... probably something to due with wear and tear on resistors of some sort?

Found a charger that works
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2935909
although I expect any ac to usb power adapter that supplies enough current will do. You just need to use your Kaiser/Tilt usb sync cable with it

I got exactly same problem for my Moto Q.
Tried several charger that worked before. Now, none of them works.

Here is the solution.
From www dot heberts dot net/motorola-q-wasnt-charging-via-usb
Start → Settings → Connections → USB to PC. I make “Enable advanced network functionality” on and off, and it works.
szniwawa said:
Tried several charger that worked before. Now, none of them works.
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My Kaiser
- Charges via AC
- Charges via Doc
- Does not Charge vis USB
- Does not charge via Car Charger
But if I use an "audio Adaptor" which has usbMini Input it will charge whatever i plug in!!
Weird as hell.
Regards
Mo

I bought one of these from fleebay and it works a treat with ANY charger I plug into it.
HTC Multifunction Audio Cable YC A300
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Mo

[Q] Charging on CM7 With A Non Nook Charger

Hey Guys,
So I've been using CM7 since Nightly 13 or so. Around that time I was using both my stock charger and other micro usb cables I had. I would plug the non-stock into a non-stock wall plug usb outlet thing or to the computer and I had no trouble charging the nook. This is great for being at work.
Then, somewhere around nightly 22 or so this stopped working. The icon in the status bar on the nook shows charging, spare parts reports "Charging USB" and "Charging AC" respectively, but the battery level only goes down.
To make matters worse, around nightly 22 I found that after I had used the non-stock charger even the stock stopped working. I was not getting ANY charge. I read somewhere that I could use CWM to clear the battery stats so I did and that appears to correct the problem. I'm able to use the stock again.
So here I am, running CM7 rc4 but I see that I'm still not able to charge from non-stock.
Does anybody know what gives here or can you point me towards more information?
Thanks

yeah, I seem to be having the same problem
My nook was out of juice this morning so I brought a usb cable with me to work
it's been plugged in for over an hour and it still won't even turn on..

mine charges fine with the cabble that came with my evo into my laptop

This sounds important enough to repost in the Developer forum, no?

actually, I think it is charging
it's just charging REALLY slowly
mine's finally booted up now

Well I understand it always has charged much slower without the standard Nook charger, so maybe this is just an isolated case for the OP?

If I don't turn off the screen and use 1100 mhz + performance governor and have live wallpaper running, it won't charge. I think it's because it's using more power than my USB can supply.
If I have it on interactive 300/1100, with the screen off, it will charge overnight.

I don't think its and isolated event, I have the same problem but with the original nook charger its all out of juice its been connected to the wall jack for 1 hour and its not even trying to turn on.
It's a very pretty paperweight telling me that I should try again in 15 minutes for the past hour.

Yours won't charge with the original charger? What kind of light are you getting on the charger cable? Have you tried turning the machine completely off?

chisleu said:
If I don't turn off the screen and use 1100 mhz + performance governor and have live wallpaper running, it won't charge. I think it's because it's using more power than my USB can supply.
If I have it on interactive 300/1100, with the screen off, it will charge overnight.
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Yeah, after waiting the day it appears this is the case. I have to leave the screen off and it will charge. If I actually use it I think I'm consuming more power than trickles in. That's really lame.
I've had the screen off for the last 5 hours (using it occasionally) and it is now at 50% battery, up from 8%. So I guess it is charging... just REALLY slowly.
What, if anything, can be done about this? Is this a purely hardware issue or is there a software aspect to this. I'm telling you, I didn't have this issue with nightly 13 (or so).

You know, I had been using the "ondemand" governor but have changed over to the "interactive". I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I'm going to switch it back and see if it makes a difference.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the nook only charges with the nook charger.
When I plug CM7 into the PC the battery percentage will jump to 100% after some (brief) time. Since I know it's too short of a time to fully charge the battery I rebooted the Nook Color and it showed the proper battery percentage.
As an aside, you're not supposed to let lithium ion batteries fully discharge. It's bad for the battery.

No I understand that it does charge via regular USB, just more slowly. The Nook cable is specially designed to add additional pins for higher voltage charging. Or something like that.

I have this plugged into a standard Motorola microUSB wall charger and it works fine for my Nook Color.
The only thing is that it charges at a much lower amperage.
You can verify this with a quick dmesg piped to grep in a terminal:
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With the standard Nook Color Charger, it charges at a rate of 2A.
It works fine at 500 mA; it just takes a lot longer.
Does anyone know if charging this way might cause damage over time to the Nook?

Logically, if it were harmful they wouldn't allow you to use a USB cable to connect to a powered USB port on a PC. (Or they'd disable charging upon such a connection.)
I mean, some people are going to leave the things connected to their PC for long periods.

xdabr said:
Logically, if it were harmful they wouldn't allow you to use a USB cable to connect to a powered USB port on a PC. (Or they'd disable charging upon such a connection.)
I mean, some people are going to leave the things connected to their PC for long periods.
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Well... for the record, the stock nook complains when you use the non-stock charger. And it doesn't report charging.
It definitely charges using CM7, but it is super slow AND using the nook while charged seems to break even on battery consumption. If I shut the screen off though it definitely puts power into the battery.
You can see all this by using SpareParts. It shows battery info on demand and you'll actually be able to see the voltage in the battery and watch it charge. Percentage be damned I'm looking at voltage
So... I think my original question is answered. Yes, it will charge off USB or non-stock charger using a non-stock cord. It charges slowly and with a low amount of voltage meaning I can't really use the thing if I expect it to charge.
Maybe I just need to man up and buy another stock charger. :/

Paul22000 said:
It works fine at 500 mA; it just takes a lot longer.
Does anyone know if charging this way might cause damage over time to the Nook?
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Quite the opposite. For Li-Ion batteries, a slower "trickle" charge is actually recommended over the "quick" version via higher amps.

3rd party chargers aside, are you saying with stock Nook Eclair it doesn't "report" any charging when attached with a standard USB cables to a PC -- and does it in fact NOT charge at all that way? 'Cause that would be a signifier to me that it's not intended and is potentially unsafe.
I thought I had read that it does eventually charge, just as it does in CM7....

Mine will charge with the non-oem chargers, but it takes forever. I try not to let mine completely die because it's such a pain to get it powered on again. I get the notice on screen that says something about "continue charging and try again in 15 minutes" and it takes much longer than that. Last time it died all I had was a non-oem charger at my parents' place and I had to leave it plugged in over night and when I woke up it was back on but STILL not 100%. It's a pain when you're in a hurry, but if you're in a bind and that's all you have but have time to leave it, it will eventually power back on. At least that's my experience with the nook running cm7.

Definitely seems software/driver issue. For me, the Nookie Froyo SD build had great battery time, and would slow-charge from a normal USB cable plugged into laptop. I know this because 1. It would charge, and 2. If it was fast-charging as normal, and pulling too many milliamps from the laptop, it would have informed me the USB port draw was too great, and disabled it. I have a Y USB power splitter for external hard drive - I should test if it changes anything if I use it (I'll assume it won't as it wouldn't have the custom pins).
Now that I'm messing with CM7 (sd) builds, battery drain is horrible, so I often get that "15 minutes" screen and I've had cases where it won't charge from a regular USB cable. Haven't done a lot of testing with these much, as I didn't want to have to leave it plugged in constantly.

Wont start! :(

I got a Tab yesterday without any cables. There was a little amout of battery left so i Rooted it and bought the "Euro Tap Bootstrab", i tried it, boot CWM, took a backup and then i turn it off. No battery left.
I got a USB cable today. Plugged it in my pc and tab, but I honestly cant see if charging or not. Sometime comes a large battery icon, but when pressing button it goes black
Cant hard reset.
Please help

Prozel said:
I got a Tab yesterday without any cables. There was a little amout of battery left so i Rooted it and bought the "Euro Tap Bootstrab", i tried it, boot CWM, took a backup and then i turn it off. No battery left.
I got a USB cable today. Plugged it in my pc and tab, but I honestly cant see if charging or not. Sometime comes a large battery icon, but when pressing button it goes black
Cant hard reset.
Please help
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A PC will charge it very slowly. You need to plug it into a wall charger. You probably didn't brick it. See if you can get a USB wall charger from somewhere. Usually Blackberry chargers have a USB port that you can plug the cable into.

Using my HTC usb charger, thanks! So I just have to wait now?

Prozel said:
Using my HTC usb charger, thanks! So I just have to wait now?
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Yeah, pretty much. I don't think backing up your Tab would have bricked it, even if the battery died mid-backup since you're reading from memory (internal), not modifying it.

Ehm, to be precise, I pressed "Reboot System", a samsung logo popped out, I waited a long time and it didnt change so i turned it off. Dont hope it's bricked

Just what!? I've charged it for about an hour and have litterly tried everything, this suck big time! It just wont start

Prozel said:
Using my HTC usb charger, thanks! So I just have to wait now?
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I've charged it for about an hour
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Just plugging it in HTC charger gives you almost nothing! Original Samsung charger has a "trick" inside - it has pins 2 and 3 of its USB output connector shortened, and on top of that it has also 2 resistors between these pins and +5 and GND pins. When you plug the cable in common charger the tab does not "understand" that now it must take full power from the charger and does not charge the battery actually (it should take appr 1 A current from the original charger for 4 hours to be fully charged). You should get an original charger, or get a special adapter connected between your HTC charger and tab's cable (I have seen some at Amazon.de), or to make an adapter yourself.
PS. There is a strong recommendation: never do any programing, flashing, backup or restore with battery discharged below 80%, better to do it with charger connected.

Thanks, good to know, however the orginal is lost.. so can i still use the HTC but it will take longer or?

Prozel said:
Thanks, good to know, however the orginal is lost.. so can i still use the HTC but it will take longer or?
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I am afraid the tab will "think" that there is no charger at all. Connecting it to USB port of PC may give a result after several hours (very-very slow charging). Why don't you think over getting (or making) an adapter?!

Will defo get one, but then I would have wait till monday
Don't think i can make one

Prozel said:
Don't think i can make one
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Actually I have made this adapter in 20 minutes (but I am formerly an electronic engineer, though).
Well, then try to connect it to PC for the whole night (do not forget to keep PC running ), maybe it works out...
First try to run it, if it hangs, try CWM/restore, if it is bricked - re-flash it.
Good luck!

Thanks alot, really! Will report back tomorrow. Again tanks

Just to be clear, when it's charged, does the battery icon have to be there all the time? It does disappear after some while when it's connected

Battery icon disappears in several seconds when the tab is switched off. Short pressing on power on button shows it again for some while. Moving dots under icon show charging in progress.
When the tab is fully charged it makes a short sound.
When the tab "understands" that it is connected to a charger, it also makes a short sound.
PS. After recovering the unit I recommend to install Battery Watch from the Market - it has a widget and you will always know the state of battery etc. And you can see a graph showing a battery behavior. And this application is on top of that shouting - "Charging started!", "Charging complete!", which is funny...

Guess mine doesn't charge?
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Sorry for delay - no, it does not charge... the reason was explained.

Yeah i see now. Thanks for taking you time. Defo appreciated

Just for reference, do NOT turn your GTab on while charging from a pc. It won't charge at all. Keep it turned off, and then wait for like 9 hours (it takes about 50 minutes to increase the charge to 10% from my laptop).
And when you flash, always have a full charge. ;-)
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Hehe, yeah I just couldn't wait
Gonna pick up a HDMI dock tomorrow, until I've connected it to a laptop to see if it will charge.

So i got a proper charger, but does it charge?

Qi plus external battery

Ordered one of these today, big battery plus qi charging, should get it Tuesday, I'll report back with a quick review how it does with the turbo
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J409JCM/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item

Was looking to buy the same item. Let us know how it is. Specifically, if really charges ~10,000mAhr worth of battery. Thanks!
mikera67 said:
Ordered one of these today, big battery plus qi charging, should get it Tuesday, I'll report back with a quick review how it does with the turbo
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J409JCM/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item
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Got it in the mail yesterday, nice looking packaging, the instructions are a bit strange, think it was translated but not proof read, but not a big deal since there is just one button.
The qi charging is pretty neat, slower than ordinary chargers (all qi chargers are limited) but so much nicer to use the phone without having to plug and unplug device. Both usb ports claim 2.1a, one labeled Samsung, one Apple. Everything seems to work fine, will get better idea today after letting it full charge overnight.

How many times can you can fully charge your phone using this?

Depends if you use the usb or wireless, usb is roughly 90 percent effective, so that works mean only 9,000 mAh, so about twice fully charging the droid, wireless is roughly 70 percent effective, that's about 1 full charge and three quarters charge.
That's on paper, haven't fully tested yet, doubt I'll ever will, like knowing I have a fully charged device ready to go. I just charged my nexus 7 wifi from half full, charges pretty darn fast. Love the wireless charging, no need to plug phone in, slower charge but that's expected. It has worked with every device we own, 2 iPad's,2 iPhones,3 android phones,2 android tablets and a kindle, yes we own a bunch of electronics, three kids plus the wife and me, the biggest kid of them all!

Can it be used in a "bypass" mode as a dock? In other words, have it plugged into the wall and charge devices without it constantly charging the internal battery of the qi device.

Yes it can, it is different from my ankor 12,000 mAh external battery, if it's plugged in to charge it will charge it's battery and whatever you have plugged in, this one seems to only charge the phone when plugged in, when the phone is full it charges the battery.
Now that could be wrong, the charging lights on the battery can be confusing what is actually going on, it could be charging the external battery and whatever is plugged in, the device manual looks like it was crudely translated,I hear the company is releasing a new pdf with updated instructions, either way it doesn't effect me.
One of the best features over other batteries is a normal micro usb is all you need to charge it, the ankor has it's own brick, lose or break it the battery is useless. Really love this, owned several packs and this one goes everywhere with me, my Droid hasn't gone below 55% , just too easy to charge wireless, set the phone down, hit a button it charges, no cord to undo to use the phone, awesome

Just looked at the online faq, there is pass thru charging, plus I found out it has two modes by long pressing the only button, red light on wireless on, red light off,usb charging only, here is from the faq
Pass-Through Wired Charging: While the power bank is connected to a USB charger, long press the power button so that only the red LED is on. You can now use the USB1 (1A) jack to charge a device (USB2 is disabled due to insufficient current).Pass-Through Wireless Charging: While the power bank is connected to a USB charger, long press the power button so that only the red LED is on. Place a mobile device on top of the power bank, and align the center of its wireless receiver with that of the wireless transmitter within 2 cm (0.6 inch).

I don't know anything about qi charging and am just learning. Are there others out there like this? This looks really nice I'm just curious for comparison.

Question Phone not turning on after battery drain- 15 days old REDMI Note 11

I got a Redmi Note 11 from Amazon.sa on 8th June 2022 (17 days old) and the phone was working absolutely fine until today.
My phone ran out of battery as I was outside. When I came home to charge my phone, it was charging but not turning on anymore.
I can see the battery sign while charging but when I'm pressing the power on button for more than 10 seconds, it's not turning on.
I tried to use a different charger and kept on charging overnight. I tried fast boot but it's not entering fast boot mode. Attached are images and videos
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I tried to use a different charger and tried fast boot but it's not entering fast boot mode. Attached are images and videos

Is this problem solve ?if yes ,please can you tell with us. !

Majid6165 said:
I got a Redmi Note 11 from Amazon.sa on 8th June 2022 (17 days old) and the phone was working absolutely fine until today.
My phone ran out of battery as I was outside. When I came home to charge my phone, it was charging but not turning on anymore.
I can see the battery sign while charging but when I'm pressing the power on button for more than 10 seconds, it's not turning on.
I tried to use a different charger and kept on charging overnight. I tried fast boot but it's not entering fast boot mode. Attached are images and videos
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This happens to people who live life on the edge and take the low battery warning for granted. Happened to me once. Lesson learned. Never use a Li-ion battery till 0%.

This happened to me on Redmi Note 11 4G
I was doing battery drain test and suck up the battery to 0% and when i tried plugin the phone with the in-box charger the phone do show charge but percentage don't bump up.....
Solution :
1.Open the backpanel via heating it to loose the glue
2.Removed the middle frame
3.Disconnect the battery connector
4.See the + and - symbol on the battery connectior pin
5.Disconect the battery and Carefully try to try to charge the battery directly via 5V 1A cable ( find old usb cable n cut in middle u will find 4 wires,2 wire [red+,black- ]for power and 2 wire [ green n white] for data...we need only red+ and black- wires put the one end on charger and connect the positive to + point of battery and negative to - point of battery used septic pin but carefully....
note the + and - marks are mentioned in battery connector pin and on mother board ..
charge it carefully for 3 to 5mins ...when the battery will get warm conncet the battery conncetor pin and bamm charge ur phone with inbox charger
Don't puncher the bttery....whlie using septic pin

Repo Spes said:
This happened to me on Redmi Note 11 4G
I was doing battery drain test and suck up the battery to 0% and when i tried plugin the phone with the in-box charger the phone do show charge but percentage don't bump up.....
Solution :
1.Open the backpanel via heating it to loose the glue
2.Removed the middle frame
3.Disconnect the battery connector
4.See the + and - symbol on the battery connectior pin
5.Disconect the battery and Carefully try to try to charge the battery directly via 5V 1A cable ( find old usb cable n cut in middle u will find 4 wires,2 wire [red+,black- ]for power and 2 wire [ green n white] for data...we need only red+ and black- wires put the one end on charger and connect the positive to + point of battery and negative to - point of battery used septic pin but carefully....
note the + and - marks are mentioned in battery connector pin and on mother board ..
charge it carefully for 3 to 5mins ...when the battery will get warm conncet the battery conncetor pin and bamm charge ur phone with inbox charger
Don't puncher the bttery....whlie using septic pin
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The charging battery voltage limit is 4.3V. Charging it with 5V could make it unstable and even explode. But doing this for shirt time just to bring it back to life wouldn't hurt it. Just don't leave it for too long.

Majid6165 said:
I got a Redmi Note 11 from Amazon.sa on 8th June 2022 (17 days old) and the phone was working absolutely fine until today.
My phone ran out of battery as I was outside. When I came home to charge my phone, it was charging but not turning on anymore.
I can see the battery sign while charging but when I'm pressing the power on button for more than 10 seconds, it's not turning on.
I tried to use a different charger and kept on charging overnight. I tried fast boot but it's not entering fast boot mode. Attached are images and videos
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Did you tried entering the recovery menu?