SMS Sending help, very very weird.. - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi everyone. I have searched through the forums and yes, I am a noob. I don't even flash roms with my 1 week old kaiser yet because i am still studying about them and find the process risky and hard..
anyway, I send texts on an average of aroudn 100 to 150 a day and i noticed that sometimes, text message I sent get received by the people I text really really late. Like there is a lag time of around 1 hour. This happens when there is no notification comes out on my screen after sending the message but, the message i sent is in the SENT ITEMS folder..
sometimes also, I receive texts late..
guys, please help me with this.. I am really scared and all. I hope someone from you people could help me.. please.. thanks..

its not the phone, its the network, they have lags in their servers, thats why it happenes! if it is ATT and ur in south texas, that is happening to all of us for last 5days! even call drops.

well, i am from the philippines man.. hehe
hmm, you sure it's in the network? cause bro, i used to have a simple nokia phone and this stuff does not really happen.. zzz..

It's a mixture of your network and maybe the network your sending to. Your provider may be performing upgrades or something. I used to work for nextel and they had big problems with the txt messaging provider they used working with other providers.
If your worried then back everything up or sync it to your computer and then hardreset your phone.

The Kaiser is very loud about letting you know if your message didn't get sent. So if it goes into your SMS Sent Items folder, it is, alas, out of your hands.
SMS is like email. Most of the time its instant. Yet sometimes it not, due to any number of things. Such as, usages spikes, peak usage time, server hiccup, server crash, or just plan server silliness.

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AT&T Tilt Sending Delayed Texts?

Every once in awhile my texts will seem to get lost in space and not arrive at my recipients phone for sometimes a few minutes, but sometimes hours after I've sent it. It *seems* to happen more at night, but that could be because I only get into longer texting conversations at night. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I'm still trying to figure out whether it's a problem with my ROM, my radio, my phone or AT&T.
Has anyone had any problems like this? I'm hoping it's AT&T since I've used many different ROMs, radios and recently got my phone replaced under warranty, but I'd still like to find out.
i doubt this has anything to do with the phone itself and more the network you are on...
You can always update your roaming settings with *662 on ATT I think that helped my problem with MMS getting sent in a timely manner
OnebadMF said:
i doubt this has anything to do with the phone itself and more the network you are on...
You can always update your roaming settings with *662 on ATT I think that helped my problem with MMS getting sent in a timely manner
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Could you elaborate on this? Do I just dial *662 ?
Its the network, and believe me its being worked on.
Im not sure its *662... Any ATT store should be able to tell you...
KD8DNS- You know its the network? Is it just an ATT thing?
OnebadMF said:
Im not sure its *662... Any ATT store should be able to tell you...
KD8DNS- You know its the network? Is it just an ATT thing?
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Its a ATT situation that is being worked out. You dont have to believe what I say, but you can take it to the bank.
KD8DNS is 100% right I have already talked to AT&T about this and it's not your PDA I've had the same problem with my Razr and several other phones. Every so often I will have a delay in voicemails arriving as well but not real often.
same problem here too. hopefully they work it out soon
tjs98gt said:
same problem here too. hopefully they work it out soon
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They are, I see it first hand.
KD8DNS I believe you 100%, but I'm of course obligated to ask the question-- how well is it being worked on? As in, when can people stop yelling at me for responding like 3 hours late to their texts?
met3ora said:
KD8DNS I believe you 100%, but I'm of course obligated to ask the question-- how well is it being worked on? As in, when can people stop yelling at me for responding like 3 hours late to their texts?
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1. The tech's are most likely upgrading a tower around you or building one, when I say upgrading I mean 3G. Now when this is done they have to intergrate the new tower/technology into the network so the "hand-off" works. Usually the tower/towers in the area have certain features shut off so network intergration goes without fail. This can take time, and usually takes place at night when there is less network activity. Also the time the features of the tower are shut off like sms, they are being received by the tower and stored, then when the tower is turned back on they get sent.
2. "how well is it being worked on?" I wouldn't have a job if it wasn't
3. Just tell the people what is going on. As for anything that is being developed or upgraded, there is an initial downside.
met3ora-----pm me the city you live/use your phone and ill find out whats going on.
Well, that would explain it pretty nicely and I'm actually kinda mad I didn't think of it! I go to Purdue University, so out here in West Lafayette, Indiana we got 3G pretty recently, I wanna say maybe 3 weeks ago. I really hope AT&T hurries up and gets the towers working correctly (not to yell at you, of course KD8DNS). But the thing that worried me was that I was in Chicago and I was still having this problem. My friends would tell me they only received page 1 of 2 of my texts, some would come through later and some would come throug on time.
I live in Phoenix and have 3G just about everywhere in town no problem, but this explains weird SMS problems at night
when I was in the US last week, I had to use the AT&T network and holy ****, the delays in the messages were horrible. Sometimes my wife wouldn't get them for hours....When I changed it to T-Mobile, at least she got them within a minutes or two...Don't know what carrier I am going to use when I come back to the US....
The other option is try a new sim card, i know it sounds like the typical att b.s. story, but it could help, any ATT corporate store will do this free of charge. Also if you go into a new area like another state. Try resetting your device "power cycle" that will d/l all the up to date provisioning from the tower to your device.
The other idea i just had, is you might have the wrong sms gateway number, this you would have to call att for because there are thousands of them and they are area specific.
KD8DNS said:
The other option is try a new sim card, i know it sounds like the typical att b.s. story, but it could help, any ATT corporate store will do this free of charge. Also if you go into a new area like another state. Try resetting your device "power cycle" that will d/l all the up to date provisioning from the tower to your device.
The other idea i just had, is you might have the wrong sms gateway number, this you would have to call att for because there are thousands of them and they are area specific.
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Does the gateway matter for both receiving and sending? Here in Central KY SMS are 15m-2h delayed every time for weeks now. We have had 3G for about a year, maybe HSUPA is in the works.
khaytsus said:
Does the gateway matter for both receiving and sending? Here in Central KY SMS are 15m-2h delayed every time for weeks now. We have had 3G for about a year, maybe HSUPA is in the works.
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Typically just receive. Also att has been upgrading the "short code" network witch also has a major part to do with send/receive txt mess. I would really suggest anyone with this problem get a new sim card.

[REQ]Auto-Send SMS txt message on connection

Hello, I was wondering if there was a developer out there who would be able to solve this little issue. On the Fuze, when you dnt have service, and try to send a txt message, it just says, cannot send, and sends it to your drafts folder. Now when you re-connect, it doesnt send the messages in your draft folder, so you forget about them, and never send them... Could it be possible to make a tweak or program that at each re-connect, the phone checks the drafts, and if there are any un-sent messages, it will send them? I will be happy to buy someone some lovely coffee for their services. Thanks.
i second that. i have poor reception in my command center and im constantly drifting in and out of service and not sending texts
BUMP... Anyone??
I would like this too!
Could be very nice!
i fourth that request.
YES!! Please. This is very annoying if you're in basements often.
I also would like that...!!!!
It seems all the chefs are busy....
=(
what we need is a program that will allow incoming messages to come in altho the last txt wasnt sent.
what happens is, when you realize you havnt been getting texts for the past hr you take a look at you texts and see that the last text couldnt be sent which prevents incoming texts.
Oh i really need this. At my dad's house signal is patchy so i have to wait for my TP to find signal before i can repush send... bugs the f..k into me.
Yes please!
unstopable72 said:
what we need is a program that will allow incoming messages to come in altho the last txt wasnt sent.
what happens is, when you realize you havnt been getting texts for the past hr you take a look at you texts and see that the last text couldnt be sent which prevents incoming texts.
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Well, I don't think that is the way we should go. Sometimes I get 25 messages in one hour, sometimes 2 a day. And I would have to go into the messages folder to see that the last message didn't get sent but was put in the drafts folder.
I would be more then happy to kick in a few bucks to the person willing to work on this.

Troubleshooting: Some SMS don't get through (German Network)

Hey everyone,
I face a SMS sending problem. I'm texting to Australia quite often and I'm (different to my t-mobile button above) with E-Plus. A long time me and my partner down under had no trouble sending/receiving text messages. But lately only half my texts get through.
We had a problem earlier this year when she was with Optus. All of a sudden my messages did not get through anymore. All of them. Then she changed to Vodafone and it seemed to work. But E-Plus (I'm actually with MedionMobile, just using E-Plus network) made their messages cheaper and now I face this problem!
It's really anoying. Now -
when I have such a problem - does it have anything to do with my Radio / Rom installed on the phone? Or is this just a network fault?
Would changing to Vodafone solve this problem since Vodafone Germany and Vodafone Australia are partner networks?
It's just that E-Plus is so much cheaper (1/3 of the price for a SMS!)
Please try to help me!
Is your operator billing you for the txts? If so, you can be sure they're transferred to your operators server correctly and your phone's alright. But you probably won't be able to get a deeper insight into what happens after that- if and where your txts are lost....
Changing networks MIGHT help, but don't count on it.
You might wanna try sending your txts using an internet-based service?! just to check... and, btw, that might be cheaper, too. I remember seeing a tool that allows you to send txts via internet-based services from your xperia using your data connection. i just can't seem to find it right now.
first: thanks for your help!
My operator is billing me for the text messages, yes. So they send it correctly. I even tried out to get a confirmation for sent items, you know? I always get the message that it has been delivered. But then she does not get the message...
I tried out to send messages from two of my class mates and from my mums phone as well as from my dads phone. Their messages all get through...
I think I know what you mean with internet based SMS sending. Innosend is such a service, huh?
But items sent throught that service do not get stored in my SMS store...But I will try it out, I guess. As well as I try a Vodafone SimCard.
I hope there is nothin wrong with my phone...
Out of interest, what phone does your partner have?
Oh, I think you got me there. Long time it was a Sony Ericsson...older one. But she got a new one two weeks ago or so. But I don't think it's her phone because the fault occured on both, her old and her new phone. I'll write it in here as soon as I know...
Ah ok cool. The reason I was asking: When I got my Xperia I soon realised that my gf was only getting around half the texts I was sending. It drove me crazy as nothing seemed to fix it - I got my phone replaced, she got hers replaced, we both got new SIMs. Just like you, the texts were showing up on bills, and O2 could see them going through their message centre, so they could not identify the problem.
Eventually I figured it out, my gf did not receive my messages when they were longer than a single message. Anything more and it simply did not show up on her phone (LG Renoir), but still seemed to send successfully and show up on my bill. I then realised that the same thing happened when sending long texts to my friend (also an LG, but a Viewty). They can both get long messages from other people, just not me, so I think there must be some sort of incompatibility between the Brands/softwares.
Probably of no help to you really, but maybe you send long messages too?
No, it's fine since I experience such a thing on my own now. Thanks for sharing! I'm gonna ask her what kind of phone she uses now. Today I removed the SIM Card from my phone and replaced it. The Xperia did a new setup on my network and afterwards my 2 sent messages came through. Maybe I just had to do that because I flashed a new Rom and later a new Radio without renewing my network options...
As you, I do not have a clue where the problem is...But also takin my mums T-Mobile Sim Card in my phone she got all messages. I believe it's the operator...I keep you guys updated when I have my Vodafone card or if it should work normally now...
Thanks for your help. Always appreciated!
edit:yes, I experienced that longer messages have less chance to get through. Sometimes they are messed up or just the first part (first 160 characters) get through...hmm

Text Msg issue

Do you guys have issues with sometimes not receiving a text?
I have an HD7 with Tmobile USA
and I've had ppl saying they text
me yet they never did
At first i thought it was just lies that
guys tell but i've gotten the same
story for certain friends.
Just wanted to know if it is isolated
or if someone else was having the
trouble i am
Check the number in messaging settings and make sure you haven't changed it, otherwise I can't think of any other reason, assuming you have not added message blocking or some other feature that limits usage
maybe a network issue in your area. I would talk to t-mobile about it and they can check it out.
I haven't had any problems with texts.
The odd thing is that I have had a vibrant, g2, and mytouch 4g with Tmobile in th same area and those never had an issue
tj
It seems like it only happens like 20% of the time but i feel bad for fussing at ppl for not texting back when it is my phone
and i've noticed this is on both HD7
But it is not a MAJOR problem...just a minor annoyance
lol and i refuse to call tmobile's customer service until next month. I finally can transfer to postpaid instead of being on flexpay aka hell. Trying to explain a problem to them is murder. The language barrier alone will make this whole situation worse...
Another issue that pops up
I decided to use the feature of sms confirmation to let me know when it is sent to the users i send the text or pic mail to(which is annoying) because if i send my usual 1,000-2000 msg daily i will get the same amount of texts from my phone telling me that it has sent the text to the recipient.
Anyway, a new issue pops up that when i send a text, it will say it can't be sent and it will resend later. Even if i have full service, it sends me the message and i literally can't text anyone
then after about 10-15 minutes, it will send it automatically with no issues then sporadically pop back up.
This is shocking because i really have had no issues with WP7 or my hd7 aside from this and now randomly that pink hue on the camera started appearing
the pink on camera seems to be fixed with the ..10u.. rom for a lot of people
i can't say anything on the sms delivery reports, but i know tmo on the east should have way better reception than west
missing texts
I have T-mobile as well. My HD2 would drop most inbound texts. I had to do a hard reset to get it to start working reliably again.
Haven't had the issue since I switched to the HD7.
It is working great now. Idk what was going on with my phone.

can't send: text message error

Hi,
I have had the HD7 for a few weeks now... before the nodo update i never had a problem with it but ever since then, i keep getting a lot of error messages for text messages saying the message wasn't sent. This usually happens when the signal is 1 bar or no bars (but signal is still there) and sometimes even happened with full bars.
Anyone else have this problem? I am with Bell in Canada
same also with hd7 in tmo usa
same problem 02 UK
However ive found that if i go into the settings and into the carrier options and switch off 3g, everything works fine , texts are sent and received and i have no issues
this problem seems to come and go for me so im presuming its the same deal that you have - when the 3g signal is low its unable to connect correctly - and since it has a 3g signal it dosent auto downgrade to the lower speed connection - so manually disabling 3g forces it to connect at the slower speed
hope this helps a little
feel free to tell me im talking bollocks tho - this is just my experience of the problem
No message errors here on O2 UK. I've had the HD7 since release & use messaging a lot. I don't get a 3g signal in my area, so that might be a factor.
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Hey mate...Bell in Toronto area here. I've been getting the same thing, rather often tiotoo A few times I think it was due to receiving a text the same time or very shortly after trying to send one..it's weird though, pretty much every time I click to resend it goes no problem. You're not alone with that issue mate lol
phew ok awesome then... it hasnt been doing that for me ever since i started this thread lol, so i am a little happy for now... i am going to send off emails to bell and HTC and see what they say regarding this issue.
As per the 3G connection trick, as soon as i turn mine off, i lose all signal from the phone... the dialer just says "emergency only".
Thanks
saketh321 said:
phew ok awesome then... it hasnt been doing that for me ever since i started this thread lol, so i am a little happy for now... i am going to send off emails to bell and HTC and see what they say regarding this issue.
As per the 3G connection trick, as soon as i turn mine off, i lose all signal from the phone... the dialer just says "emergency only".
Thanks
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I think it is a network issue. I'm on Telus (sharing towers with bell) and I have this problem on my HD7 and Galaxy S. Only in the last couple weeks.
I have to keep resending texts
Blue1k said:
I think it is a network issue. I'm on Telus (sharing towers with bell) and I have this problem on my HD7 and Galaxy S. Only in the last couple weeks.
I have to keep resending texts
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Oh yeah that's right... i forgot Bell and Telus dont have edge bands. Hopefully the text messaging thing can be fixed soon... its getting annoying now.
I've been having the same problem. I used to send text messages in the loo's on my break, but now if I go there the signal is weaker and it fails alot. never used to before nodo.
This has been an issue for me since Day 1. My college is in a low coverage area and anytime im here, i sometimes get the error message.
I dont pay it much mind because if my phone is showing 1 bar or no bars, then it is obviously not the phone's fault(in my case) but the fact that I am just in a low coverage are and it struggles to get the message out.
This happens more so with my pic message than text message.
Sometimes people have also told me they have text me and I never received it or I'll text them and they never receive it.
carmeng4evr said:
This has been an issue for me since Day 1. My college is in a low coverage area and anytime im here, i sometimes get the error message.
I dont pay it much mind because if my phone is showing 1 bar or no bars, then it is obviously not the phone's fault(in my case) but the fact that I am just in a low coverage are and it struggles to get the message out.
This happens more so with my pic message than text message.
Sometimes people have also told me they have text me and I never received it or I'll text them and they never receive it.
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did you check with anyone else in t-mobile that goes to your college? I do remember reading where people are complaining the hd7 has a weak antenna.
But even then so, 1 bar is no excuse for a text message to not go through.
I have the same problem. my phone will have full bars one moment then the next it will be down to one and "cant send: text message error" its annoying because i will reply and then look at my phone a hour later and see why they havent replied and the message didnt even send >_<
Some other times my phone get NO signal at all for a couple minutes then randomly has full bars again, its really irritating. I live in a college town where everyone here gets good signal.. no reason for this. I dont really remember it happening when i had the February update.
Ok so i sent HTC an email and this is the reply I got.
I understand that since performing the nodo update on your HTC HD7, you have been having issues sending text messages. I checked around with several of my coworkers and tried to find other instances of this issue occurring from other forums, but it appears to be a fairly uncommon issue. I took a look at the forum thread that you started and obtained more details such as this usually tends to happen when there is low signal. I see that some of the other posters recommended reverting to 2G in such a situation and that is not a bad idea. You can enable 2G only by going to Settings> Cellular. Additionally, the way you hold the phone can affect the signal as well. You may want to try holding around the sides so that your palm does not come in contact with the back of the phone, which can block the signal. Aside from that, you can also try a factory reset in case an issue occurred during the update and did not install properly or caused corruption in some of the files in the phone’s software. Please be sure to back up the information on your phone and the go to Settings> About Phone> Factory Reset.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11CACW17ENA000115.
Sincerely,
Lydia
HTC
I'm glad I am not the only one having this issue. (T-Mo USA) Mine started acting up last night with my 3G being EXTREMELY slow loading web pages and then ultimately not being able to load anything. Then this morning I am unable to send text messages, but randomly I will receive many emails and texts (like I only have a connection for a few seconds), then when I try to reply I am unable to send. Very frustrating.
i too have experienced this so here are some tips. For me i only get this problem when pressing send and right away press the home key or back key which interrupts the sending process result of fail sending. Enabling 3g if you dont have it is another problem so disable it. I also get this problem when locking the phone right after i press send so wait till it finish and then lock .
i hope this helps, if not restart the phone, and if that doesnt help take it to tmo and exchange =)
I've had this problem on my Omnia 7 since day one. Always have to disable my damn data.
And the ***** of it is when I go to re-enable data afterwards I have wait a few minutes to get it working again. Sometimes I have to turn the phone off and on in order to get data.
It's not a cell carrier problem since on my Diamond 2 I never had a problem, and the same thing with the x10.
Same problem with Samsung Focus on Bell. After NoDo update, SMS has been useless. I will get SMS, although often late. Sending is worst, I get the dreaded 'cannot send' message. I will occasionally be able to send some. Wondering if it's a signal issue. However, I can send just fine putting my SIM in another phone.
I've had T-mobile HD7 since last november, my girlfriend and I exchange about 30 messages every day, never had this problem before the NoDo update, not even once, no matter how bad the signals were. Im 99% sure its NoDo update causing this not t-mobile network. It's so annoying when you text somebody then go do something else, 20 minutes later you check back and see this un-happy face and can't send message.
BTW, Factory Reset won't help, tried that.
seantan2001 said:
I've had T-mobile HD7 since last november, my girlfriend and I exchange about 30 messages every day, never had this problem before the NoDo update, not even once, no matter how bad the signals were. Im 99% sure its NoDo update causing this not t-mobile network. It's so annoying when you text somebody then go do something else, 20 minutes later you check back and see this un-happy face and can't send message.
BTW, Factory Reset won't help, tried that.
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yeah tried that too man... WPcentral wrote an article asking other people if they are having that issue and it seems some are and some arent.
http://www.wpcentral.com/sms-issue-hd7-Nodo
It will happen occasionally if I'm on Edge network. If I have a solid 3g signal it never happens.

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