Hello, I know there is a lot of threads, but I have different question then usually. A just want to know, how can some new ROM make battery drain lower? Still, same CPU, memory, GPS, GSM... how could just software repair that?
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Hi all,
I have installed the WM6.1 ROM 6.1.2a16CS by C. Shekhar on my qtek2020.
It is very cool and gave a second life to my qtek. I am just a bit surprised by the duration of the main battery. It is running out of bat very fast.
As I haven't used my qtek for month before installing the new ROM, I can't tell if it's a battery problem or because this new ROM is consuming more resources. Have you noticed such behavior on your machines?
For further info I am not using my qtek as cell phone. I am thinking about using it back as a phone, but I have first to fix this battery aspect.
Moreover I have read s/t about a battery fix, that I haven't installed yet. Can s/o tell me more about this fix and what it is doing?
Anyway this ROM is a great one.
Thx for your answers
Marc
I dont know about the battery fix but i have never installed any sort of fix like that either for wm5 or wm6.x. Are you sure there isnt some background process that keeps on continuously running? It could be a battery problem if the battery had discharged alot during the non-operational period. I changed by himas battery about 7-8months back because the last battery had gotten abit too old and was discharging very quickly.
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registery fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
well, WM5 and WM6.x IMHO are battery consuming ROMs, i can attest to this,
experiment no. 1:
same xda, same battery (1200mAH original battery)
-with WM2003SE at normal use, XDA turns off approx after 36 hrs of use including standby.
-with WM5 and WM6.x, XDA turns off WM5-18hrs, WM6.x-25hrs of use including standby.
experiment no. 2:
two xda, different OS, both with brand new 3600mAH extended life battery.
in 1 day (at heavy texting use from 7am to 7pm):
WM2003SE XDA2 - battery from 100% to 58%
WM6.X XDA2 - battery from 100% to 35%
possible explanation:
WM6.x (WM5) uses more CPU time and Memory resources, plus it probably uses more power in maintaining the persistent storage, hard and soft reset persistent memory.
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ather90 said:
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registry fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
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Ather, is this fix already in all/most recent releases? If not, can you give us a link? Never heard of it.
I have no battery problems, quite the contrary. My battery life is amazing me. To be honest I tweaked a lot when I started using WM6.x, too much to remember, too much to tell you.
but some parts:
I don't need 24/7 phone connection, Phone Alarm takes care of this for me
Use a bare minimum of today plug-ins
Avoid animations
Close programs except when you seriously do need them in the background
Heya Maggy...its long time since i saw u here.. think maybe month
welcome back ny ways
well that fix was in the Imate website..i have it
having some problem attaching on xda : http://www.2shared.com/file/3591354/873d3f18/SD-Card_Patch.html
Android, is it really 'safe' to run on topaz with haret.exe?
Not really.
I know people will say "dude, dont test builds out if you are scared. I love android". I do love topaz android too. i hope this will help to prolong your topaz's hardware lifespan.
Possible hardware damage caused by buggy topaz android
1. Battery
2. sdcard
3. Possibly decrease in performance in other parts of the phone
Why is current buggy state of android harmful to topaz? Well,
1. constand read/write on sdcard with constant power supplied(never shuts off for power saving) - decrease life span of sdcard
2. Li-ion battery SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTED to high drain situations if possible. This will decrease battery capacity significantly.Currently, battery drain is significant, due to unnecessary devices are left turned on etc.
3. Carging while high drain situation with BUGGY BATTERY METTER can stress our battery significantly even if there is protecting ic chip to protect battery from overcharging.
The problem is : Heat
Li-ion batteries lose their capacity if subjected to high temperature. Charging it is just suppling heat to our poor topaz battery, since battery will function like resistor ;D note topaz cannot directly be powered from usb. i.e. power socket->battery->topaz not power socket->topaz
4.Heat makes other parts of system subjected to lower lifespan and possibly, damage them
5. Remember android on topaz currently dont have 100 percent control over hardware, meaning unnecessary stuff can be running at all times.
Suggested way of using android on topaz
1. Have at least two batteries and swap them as you use topaz for both normal and android situations. This is good for li-ion batteries in general
2.Do not charge while you use topaz and if possible, stop it before battery is lower than 40%. In anycase, do not let it shut down because of low battery. If you really want to charge, consider downclock/full radio off/screen off to try to minimise stress battery goes through.
3. If possible, run android in cool, shady environment like your bedroom P)
4. Try to minimise running test builds like branch of test build for camera . This may stress your phones hardware unknowingly.
5. Becareful of android corrupting your sdcard anytime. Unknowingly, it performs a lot of read and write which is not recommended for flash memory in general.(sd cards are not ssd people)
6. Dont game or run benchmarks as much as possible
That is it. This guide applies to haret-android devices in general.
This guide will not be needed as much in situation of:
1. Nand build
2. Ram-mounted android build ( still danger of fring your sd card )
3. properly calibrated battery meter
provided their builds are stable and not as stressful as current build.
Happy android-ing. XD
Post your feedback. Please dont post things like I should not try it etc. This is just tips ,come on.
Yeah I've definitely thought about how bad the heat is for the battery and the phone itself
But I'm running it on a pure, so I almost don't care if I destroy my phone in the process. Would just give me an excuse to switch over to verizon for a droid or pick up an iPhone.
Good guide for newbs
I'm alxo running XD Android on my pure, but mostly just for the novelty.. Should I be switching batteries every time I want to run android? Should We all just wait for a flashable droid rom?
Does haret run on top of windows?
Link for Russia
http://xdandroid.at.ua/news/zashhitite_svoj_diamond_2_ot_povrezhdenij_v_android/2011-02-14-21
made by ME
Umm just to clarify
1. you do not need to set aside android battery. Just swap whenever possible even when running winmo. 2 Li-ion can last 3 years instead of 1 year for 1 battery
2. no. android is stand alone os
3. enjoy your android. Nand build is comming as DFT decided to port HD2 android boot utilites to Topaz and Rhoium. XD
4.Thanks for russian translation haha
My SD-card crashed
Hmmmm, my SD-card crashed today, and I did a lot off Android testing last two months ....
(my card is 2,5 years old)
This thread has an important warning: SD-cards are not made for this....
Is there some way to get the LG O2x to actually show more information on battery useage?. I find the present information provided all too lacking to be used for anything but as a meh factor.
The information shown can not be used to actually determine which apps it is that often drains the battery or whether its is WIFI, BT or other services that is sucking the battery dead.
I know my old HTC Desire displayed all this information without any problem, making it at lot easier for me to determine whether I should leave certain things running or shut them off when I left home. However the LG does not, but is there some way to change this?
Cause its somewhat annoying me that I can bring it to work and then in a matter of 1h it can drain as much as 20+% and I have no chance in hell determining what is that is sucking the battery dry even when I am not using my phone.
So help please
hi guys (and girls?)
i've tried a couple of android builds an kernels and well everything haha
what i find strange is that some people only have a drain of 1% an hour and some of 7 or more. and i am not talking about different builds just one build....
so what i am wondering about does your winmo rom influence android in any way? is winmo still in the background or something... i tried to find the awnser myself but no luck. so help this newbie out!
(i know radio's influence battery life and data and gps and............ so on)
1. is because we run android in SDcard, it take more battery to access and read, write data than phone storage.
2. is all build until now still in beta, not final! so it run don't like office build ! and eat battery more than!
3. is our device to old, so battery not good like when we buy, so, some people have more battery life, some short than!
4. How they use phone? more, normal or litle? ...
and more things to make battery life difference with each people! ^^!
I know that this topic is pretty old, but despite all my searching, I couldn't find a satisfactory answer.
Anyway, in this thread, people are able to get extremely good battery life. However, no matter how hard I try, nothing seems to get me even close to that level. Here are my stats from today.
As you can see, Android System uses quite a bit of juice, and the kernel holds the phone awake quite a bit. My total app usage comes to around 55 - 60% according to GSAM. But in the international forum, that number is in the high 20s, mid 30s. So I think that this is a Sprint specific issue.
I can't be the only one around here with battery drain. How much does Android System use for you guys? If I can't solve this, I may go back to Jelly Bean:
I really need help on this guys. I can't even use my phone anymore without worrying that I won't get back home with enough juice. Any comments/advice are appreciated.
I am using htc power history to tell you my android system its at 83% however since I see no mention of my kernel I am guessing its included in that as well. my battery life is kind of decent
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sauprankul said:
I know that this topic is pretty old, but despite all my searching, I couldn't find a satisfactory answer.
Anyway, in this thread, people are able to get extremely good battery life. However, no matter how hard I try, nothing seems to get me even close to that level. Here are my stats from today.
As you can see, Android System uses quite a bit of juice, and the kernel holds the phone awake quite a bit. My total app usage comes to around 55 - 60% according to GSAM. But in the international forum, that number is in the high 20s, mid 30s. So I think that this is a Sprint specific issue.
I can't be the only one around here with battery drain. How much does Android System use for you guys? If I can't solve this, I may go back to Jelly Bean:
I really need help on this guys. I can't even use my phone anymore without worrying that I won't get back home with enough juice. Any comments/advice are appreciated.
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It's probably the Google Play Services wakelock bug. You can disable location services or rebooting works fine for me.