Another Gmail problem - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Gmail on my Kaiser works fine generally, but I'm having problem with the sent mails. Each mail is sent twice whether replying or writing a new one. It's just gmail, not any other mail account I configured (yahoo, live mail). I don't know what's wrong, but it's really annoying. (Flexmail doesn't do that). I don't like flexmail so I think default would just be fine, only if it works fine.

That's how Gmail works. Do you have Gmail set up via POP or Imap?
If you go to GMails Website, You notice it has "conversation view" in replied to messages. I believe that may be what's going on.

I know about conversation view. When I send a message this is sent twice. I have configured gmail as Imap

yana209 said:
Gmail on my Kaiser works fine generally, but I'm having problem with the sent mails. Each mail is sent twice whether replying or writing a new one. It's just gmail, not any other mail account I configured (yahoo, live mail). I don't know what's wrong, but it's really annoying. (Flexmail doesn't do that). I don't like flexmail so I think default would just be fine, only if it works fine.
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Do you mean the person you send the e-mail to gets 2 e-mails? I've got Gmail POP on my Kaiser and have no issues, i've also got Live, Work POP, and synced Outlook and i've not run into this issue. Can you list your IMAP settings?

nufsaid said:
Do you mean the person you send the e-mail to gets 2 e-mails?
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Exactly! I have other accounts too, like Yahoo/Live/outlook but no problem on them, just the gmail. Here's the IMAP settings.
incoming mail server: imap.gmail.com
Account type: IMAP4
user name: [email protected]
password:
outgoing mail server: smtp.gmail.com
outgoing server requires authentication: checked
use the same user name...: checked
Require SSL for incoming e-mail: checked
Require SSL for outgoing e-mail: checked
Automatic Send/Receive: Every 2 hours

Same problem, same setting. I think this is a gmail server site bug, not a prob that we can solve.
yana209 said:
Exactly! I have other accounts too, like Yahoo/Live/outlook but no problem on them, just the gmail. Here's the IMAP settings.
incoming mail server: imap.gmail.com
Account type: IMAP4
user name: [email protected]
password:
outgoing mail server: smtp.gmail.com
outgoing server requires authentication: checked
use the same user name...: checked
Require SSL for incoming e-mail: checked
Require SSL for outgoing e-mail: checked
Automatic Send/Receive: Every 2 hours
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i have my g-mail setup EXACTLY like it says on the gmail site
Settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP -> follow those to a Tee.
i was having all kinds of weird problems and then i followed that and disabled CAPTHCA which isn't related but recommended. Once all setting were finished it was working perfect, so please set it up first and see if it helps.
-MM

Are you sure you do not have "Keep copies of sent items in Sent folder" set? (WM -> Messaging -> Tools -> Options -> Message)
If you do & are using IMAP then copy that goes through gmails smtp servers will appear & the Local Sent folder will be synced with gmail hence 2 copies.
I had the same problem because I wanted to keep my sent sms messages and it's a global setting but with the threaded sms chat in 6.1 it is safe to turn it off.

I see, i've got POP setup on mine and have never experienced anything like this.

I have a Tilt with Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
This is happening to me as well. Using gmail imap, the phone wants to save sent items in the sent folder, which creates a "sent items" label in gmail. Any mail sent from your phone then get placed into gmail's default sent items folder and also in the "sent items" label. I went to the message tools, and the Message tab and unchecked "Keep copies of sent items in sent folder", but the phone keeps creating the "sent items" folder.
I know that on WM 6.0, when setting up imap, you could go into some advanced options and specifically set it to not save sent messages on the server, but that option is replaced with "When deleting messages: delete the off the server / Move them to server trash". If you set the option to the latter, you'll get another label called "imap/trash".
I haven't been able to figure out how to tell it to not save sent messages on the server and not create the unwanted label.
If anybody knows the secret, I, and others, would appreciate some input.
Thanks.

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New Gmail via IMAP Server Questions

I'm sure most people have already seen this, http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ly-your-mobile-email-client-and-gmail-fall-i/
I configured this per directions on the Gmail site and now have it listed as one of my email accounts. I can even send messages, but can not yet receive. Also, it hangs on the "Looking For Changes" screen and never says "finished" as my other email accounts do. I am wondering if anyone else has tried to configure yet, and if anyone is having luck?
Works ok for me on an HTC Touch. Have you enabled IMAP in Gmail? It's under settings >> Forwarding and POP/IMAP. If you don't see IMAP, it's not been setup for your account yet by Google.
Austin.
I answered my own question, helps if you just show a little patience, never been my strong suit! For anyone else as impatient as me, a few tips. Make sure you manually configure your email settings. If not, it will not pick up the incoming server as an IMAP server. So, long story short simply follow the below instructions and voila, you will be up and running in no time.
Configuring other mail clients
You can use the following information to configure IMAP with many mail clients. If you encounter difficulties, we suggest contacting your mail client's customer support department for further instructions -- we're unable to provide assistance with configuring mail clients not listed here.
Incoming Mail (IMAP) Server - requires SSL: imap.gmail.com
Use SSL: Yes
Port: 993
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication)
Use Authentication: Yes
Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)
Port: 465 or 587
Account Name: your Gmail username (including @gmail.com)
Email Address: your full Gmail email address ([email protected])
Password: your Gmail password
I noticed that some of my emails aren't fully downloading in IMAP mode. I switch it back to POP and the same email comes up completely. In IMAP mode, the body of the email is blank. Any ideas?
It sounds like you are only downloading the headers. Depending on which mail client you are using, you need to change the settings to download both the header and body of each message, or you can download them as you view them (usually by right-clicking a message and selecting "download").
Not working for me... Guess they havent updated my account to work with the the new IMAP servers!
In Progress
I have 2 accounts. 1 is updated to include IMAP, The other isn't.
Keep in mind if not already mentioned, Language selected in settings must be English (US).
daniel1113 said:
It sounds like you are only downloading the headers. Depending on which mail client you are using, you need to change the settings to download both the header and body of each message, or you can download them as you view them (usually by right-clicking a message and selecting "download").
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Nope. Made sure the selection was to download the entire email and the entire attachment. Which brings me to another topic. Even when in POP3 mode with those selections made, I still have to manually download the email and attachments.
But, no, still unable to see the emails. It's funny though because it indicates that the entire file was downloaded.

Kaiser and Googlemail

Hi everyone,
i have the following problem: when i get my mail via pop3 from googlemail i also receive the send messages which are stored in google in my inbox.
The support from T-Mobile said they know the problem and the know it has to do with the setting, but they can't tell me which the setting is.
Can somebody help me please.
Gmail is currently adding IMAP to all users. log in and check your gmail settings to see if you gmail acct has it added yet. if it does, try using imap instead on your kaiser.
I actually have IMAP setup through gmail on my Wizard. I recieve the message headers but the bodies of the mail are blank. Not sure if I have something set wrong but AFAIK my phone is told to download the full message, no size limitations.
Change your account settings on the Kaiser. It's set to pull headers only and you can tweak that considerably. I'm getting all the text, but leaving attachments there.
You arent alone, buddy.
http://www.gadgetell.com/2007/10/gmail-imap-giving-windows-mobile-users-fits/
I have no problems with my Gmail account when I access my mail using the POP settings. When I try to access my email using the IMAP settings I have the same problem with the body of my messages coming up blank. I guess the IMAP server is so new, they are having problems showing threaded messages...
Yep, same issue for me as well.
its a common issue for all users of pop...it has something to do with their chat-style interface, even in pop.
i stopped using it because the sent messages get so annoying to delete. i just make gmai.com my home page now

tytn2 imap gmail

I recently flashed my kaiser with the latest duty rom.After that i try to setup a imap gmail account.
The problem is that i can recieve mail, but when i try to send it gives the error :the message(s) could not be sent.Check that you have network coverage and that your account information is correct.Then try sending again
I checked / dubbel checked the imap settings from gmail, but nothing seems to work.
(if i try to setup pop3/smtp everything works fine)
Is there anybody who can help me ?
I think it comes because WM6 wants to automatic set some settings.
Try the following:
Create a new imap account.
By the email adressfield put something like. [email protected]
Fill in all the other fields but remember to select imap4
When finished go back and edit the account with the right settings.
I had to do this with my own phone to get it working
have you enabled imap within your gmail settings at mail.google.com?
have you set the SSL settings to yes?
Tom , yes i enabled imap on the gmail setting, and yes i checked the ssl setting ( i cant change anything, only set the V )
@AAthesource : i tried this already, this is the only way to setup gmail with imap, otherwise the setting are automaticly set tot pop3 etc
the cosmic gate said:
I recently flashed my kaiser with the latest duty rom.After that i try to setup a imap gmail account.
The problem is that i can recieve mail, but when i try to send it gives the error :the message(s) could not be sent.Check that you have network coverage and that your account information is correct.Then try sending again
I checked / dubbel checked the imap settings from gmail, but nothing seems to work.
(if i try to setup pop3/smtp everything works fine)
Is there anybody who can help me ?
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I've had this problem with WM6.0 (Dutty's RTM4). The issue seems to be the ssl certificate than GMail sees fit to change every now and again. The SMTP info doesn't seem to change in the registry. Even with account deletion and re-add with the same name doesn't seem to fix this. I usually have to delete the account and then add with a different name.
Does anyone know where the fsck Pocket Outlook et al store the account information and especially cache certificates and passwords?
James
this would be nice if there's a solution !Hope to see it soon
I think you might be using the wrong information. The server isnt mail.google.com, its imap.google.com .
WM6.1 will automatically fill in settings, so you have to start off by making the address [email protected], then after you are done you can go back and correct that address. Here are the details from google's site. (remember to put the wrong address the first time around)
1. Enable IMAP in your Gmail account settings.
2. Open the Start menu and select Programs > Messaging > New E-mail Account.
3. Enter your Gmail username (including '@gmail.com') in the E-mail Address field.
4. Uncheck the box to get settings automatically from the Internet and select Next.
5. Select Internet e-mail as your email provider in the drop-down menu.
6. Enter your name as you want it to appear in sent emails.
7. Enter a descriptive name for the email account and select Next.
8. Enter 'imap.gmail.com' in the Incoming Mail Server field.
9. Select IMAP4 as the Account type from the drop-down menu and select Next.
10. Enter your Gmail username (including '@gmail.com') and password.
11. Select Next.
12. Enter 'smtp.gmail.com' in the Outgoing (SMTP) Mail Server field.
13. Make sure that the Outgoing server requires authentication box is checked.
14. Select the Advanced Server Settings link.
15. Make sure that the Require SSL box is checked for both incoming and outgoing emails.
16. Select The Internet as the network connection from the drop-down menu.
17. Select Done and then Next.
18. Select how often you want your phone to send/receive emails from the drop-down menu.
19. For more download options, select the Review all download settings link.
20. Select Finish.
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My notes on these steps:
1. Ignore
3. Use a made up non @gmail.com adress the first time.
4. There is no check box in 6.1
12. I used imap.gmail.com for my outbound and it works great.
21. Menu > Tools > Options > Gmail Account > Fix Address to correct @gmail.com
@Pops_G it works for me now thanx !
i replaced smtp.gmail.com with imap.gmail.com and it works
is this a long term fix?
@ the cosmic gate & pops_G, is changing from smtp to imap.gmail really a long term fix?
I've found that erasing and re-creating the account will work until they change certificates again.
Going into my options and just switching outgoing to imap.gmail.com didn't fix it for me.
I had to erase my account from the phone and enter it again to work, using imap.gmail as the outgoing. However, I'm not convinced this fixes anything since re-doing it with smtp.gmail also would work until they change the security again.
So, will that not happen if using imap.gmail for outgoing?
Or does any of this really make any difference at all?
@Dishe, I really doen't know if this is a long time fix.But at this moment everything works fine for 1 month.
The only problem is that sometimes its not possible to send a mail.
It's really strange, but for example if you wanna send 4 mails, just 1 e-mail (adress) gives problems
I had it working fine in this 1999 rom but didnt seem to work with the hybrid. I also dont like how imap deletes the mail from the server when u del it off the phone. I just set it back to use pop. Only problem I saw with pop before was everything sent ends up in your inbox.
Jonathan1683 said:
I had it working fine in this 1999 rom but didnt seem to work with the hybrid. I also dont like how imap deletes the mail from the server when u del it off the phone. I just set it back to use pop. Only problem I saw with pop before was everything sent ends up in your inbox.
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That's silly. You can set it to move trash to server trash instead of delete off server. Then, the message still exists on the server in "trash" until you empty it.
Also, at least with gmail, "delete" only removes it from the inbox. It still exists on the gmail server, but its not in any folders, they just sort of float around until you move them into the trash folder or assign them to another folder.
You can see this by viewing "All Mail" and filtering out the inbox, etc, to just show you messages without any category.
The only real reason to use POP these days is if your mail server does not support Imap. Imap is superior in every way...
It's not silly I don't want want my phone moving or deleting anything. I just want to view new emails. That's what gmail is about. Archiving mail and not having to delete anything. If it moved it to the archive I would be fine with it. I also don't my message in limbo with the "deleted" status.
it works for me for 3 weeks now, but sometimes there's a problem when i try to reply.
If i made a reply to some adressses, it says that its nog possible to send (something with network coverage).I know for sure that the mail adres is 100% okay .
Someone with the same problem ?Or maybe a solution?
is there nobody with the same problem ?Or somebody who can help me ?
nope, works fine for me. Sounds like you have a totally different problem. Ask google support or perhaps someone on their forums.
Cannot send messages from WM6.1 Outlook client using gmail imap
the cosmic gate said:
is there nobody with the same problem ?Or somebody who can help me ?
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I have the same problem. I have seen this mentioned on several gmail discussion groups but no solution proposed.
Cannot send messages from WM6.1 Outlook client using gmail imap
the cosmic gate said:
is there nobody with the same problem ?Or somebody who can help me ?
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I have the same problem. I have seen this mentioned on several gmail discussion groups but no solution proposed.
how come gmail imap in 6.1 does not auto sync like it did in wm6? i have options like manual and different intervals as an option.

Why receive copy of sent email thru POP3

I have my mail set up through pop3 to connect to gmail and all works fine, except that once I send an email I then receive a copy of the email I just sent. Any ideas?
It doesn't really cause any real functional issues other than just being really annoying.
sammy-e said:
I have my mail set up through pop3 to connect to gmail and all works fine, except that once I send an email I then receive a copy of the email I just sent. Any ideas?
It doesn't really cause any real functional issues other than just being really annoying.
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It sounds to me like you have gmail configured to save sent emails in a sent folder and you have POP configured to download that folder as well.
I think those are settings you probably need to tweak in your Gmail pop settings on the web and not in the messaging client on the device.
interesting, I looked within gmail's settings and did not find anything to do with copies of sent items. is there a way to configure this within wm outlook?
is imap a better interface? does it work with wm outlook?
Thanks
Gmail:
Forwarding and POP/IMAP
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 7:49 am
Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)
Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on
Disable POP
2. When messages are accessed with POP >> keep in inbox
3. Configure your email client (e.g. Outlook, Eudora, Netscape Mail)
Configuration instructions
My understanding is this is a 'side effect' (i.e. nothing you can fix) of how gmail handles E-mails...
Any time you send an e-mail from your device you will receive a copy of it on your phone (when using gmail)..
My understanding is this is limited to gmail only....
That said, I only check my 2 gmail accounts from my phone, and never reply on the phone, so doesn't bother me too much ;-)
Had the same issue. Solved the problem by switching to IMAP protocol. Now everything works flawlessly
And by the way, this relates to Gmail only, other mailboxes work fine
aleksgain said:
Had the same issue. Solved the problem by switching to IMAP protocol. Now everything works flawlessly
And by the way, this relates to Gmail only, other mailboxes work fine
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that's odd, I switched to imap last night and tried it out with the same results. I'll check my settings again to verify the changes took effect.
otherwise, it looks like I may be stuck for now. not a big deal, though. thanks for the info guys.
Mine does the same thing from the phone. If I send through my outlook account with my gmail I don't get a copy of the message.

Who set Gmail on their topaz

as of above.
i used gmail on my cruise both wm6.1 & wm6.5 it should be the same for topaz,
settings from here:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78886
I use Gmail, the phone will automatically set it up for imap.
I'm using both gmail and hotmail on the D2; I found hotmail much better for the diamond2
The reasons are:
First, gmail will retrieve the email from the past 30 days; where hotmail will grab a constant window of 50 mails.
But most importantly, as soon as an email is sent to my hotmail account, it appears on the d2; whereas gmail will check the email every hour.
I'd be very interesting if there was a way to have the hotmail behaviors with my gmail account.
i dont know what i missed out, it just never connect to the gmail.
That's strange. I also have no problem with Gmail.
My gmail account work but how to setup gmail account for push email, instant email?
rooibos said:
That's strange. I also have no problem with Gmail.
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Same here. I have used Gmail with my Kaiser, Diamond, and now TD2 without any problem.
Sad, i cant let mine work
wenxi said:
Sad, i cant let mine work
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I use Gmail with POP3 access.
Incoming Mail Server = pop.gmail.com
Outgoing Mail Server = smtp.gmail.com
Check "Outgoing server requires authentication"
At Advanced Server Settings
Check "Require SSL for incoming e-mail"
Check "Require SSL for outgoing e-mail"
Make sure the correct Network Connection is selected.
Hope this helps.
BeeGee_Tokyo said:
I use Gmail with POP3 access.
Incoming Mail Server = pop.gmail.com
Outgoing Mail Server = smtp.gmail.com
Check "Outgoing server requires authentication"
At Advanced Server Settings
Check "Require SSL for incoming e-mail"
Check "Require SSL for outgoing e-mail"
Make sure the correct Network Connection is selected.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks. It works now. I was on a different network environment, guess they block it.
Please check ur pm
If you want push gmail you'll need to use imappusherservice, i recommend this version as it does auto-restart if the connection is interruppted (the main one just craps out).
Following copied out of the readme.
This is an unofficial "patch" version of version 0.6.0 of ImapPusher Service (http://imappusherservice.codeplex.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=17672), written by codeplex user gmurray.
....
Contributing Editor
Pocket PC Thoughts
Microsoft MVP - Windows Mobile
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com
http://jonwestfall.com
codeplex user: JonWestfall
Nothing to dl on this link, it say "This Project has no releases"
Hi,
I use Gmail thru Imap and it rocks smoothly. First of all you have to understand what "archiving" email is intersting with gmail.
If you classify quickly your emails or archive them ( you have to get some often in web mode) you will then download only the emails in the Inbox ( not all emails !!!).
Also you can setup how old emails you wish to get 3/7 days...
Gmail works fine and great no problems. Better than any hotmail !
Regards
M B
Also, Gmail uses differen PORT for POP3 and SMTP !!!
Cheers,
JCE
jce2005 said:
Also, Gmail uses differen PORT for POP3 and SMTP !!!
Cheers,
JCE
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just wonder can we set pop3 instead of IMAP4? my environment block imap4
kajzer223 said:
Nothing to dl on this link, it say "This Project has no releases"
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Hmmm do a search for it, it's definetly findable, most likely on this forum (i got it the other week).
Or pm me you're email address I'll email it to you (I'm too lazy to find webspace for it
wenxi said:
just wonder can we set pop3 instead of IMAP4? my environment block imap4
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I am using POP3, but still you need to activate SSL, which causes the use of different ports.

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