Just came across this while bowsing the pocket GPS site. Anyone tried it, looks like a good alternative to TT7 and would be less hasle installing the maps.
http://www.alk.eu.com/diamond/
I'm already running Copilot 7 on my Diamond. I don't think this version is any different but I could be wrong. Installation of the standard version was easy anyway.
I purchased the Diamond version of CoPilot 7 from Handango. It installed quickly & easily. It's VGA & uses the scroll wheel to zoom in & out.
I haven't fully tested it yet but first use on foot lagged. I have messed a bit since so hopefully it will be better.
The gps picked up pretty quickly and accurately so happy there.
Copilot 7
hello,
Can you test it in your car ? and report if it lag like Tomtom navigator 7 or not.
tanks in advance.
@++
Lag? I've not noticed any lag and having used TT for several years now I'd likely be quite sensitive to any delays..
Mathew
I've been using the 7-day trial version of CoPilot7 on my Compact IV, and I have to say, the route planning seems to be WAAAAY better than TomTom5 on my MDA Pro! Not to mention that it seems you get traffic info on the CoPilot. Apparently, T-Mobile customers can upgrade to the full license for £50 all inc. Alternatively, for those that have a Diamond but not on T-Mobile, they might consider downloading it from Handango for just under £56:
http://www.handango.co.uk/PlatformP...pe=2§ionId=0&siteId=172&txtSearch=copilot
For the price difference, I'm wondering whether I'd be better off paying the extra £6-odd and getting it from Handango - that way, if I do load a cooked ROM, I've still got the full software for CoPilot?
F1Mad said:
For the price difference, I'm wondering whether I'd be better off paying the extra £6-odd and getting it from Handango - that way, if I do load a cooked ROM, I've still got the full software for CoPilot?
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It may be an idea to pay the extra. I have flashed a new ROM 3 times in the past week so it's been useful having the files at hand. The CoPilot software auto installs when the Diamond boots up again which is very useful. I keep the files on the root of the internal storage as it recommends.
I don't know if it's the same for the normal version of CoPilot 7 but as I said the Diamond version is VGA and uses the scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the map.
I have been busy at work recently and haven't really thought about testing the software properly but I have some free time soon so will check it out more. In particular I want to check it when walking as alot have complained about the GPS on the Diamond when walking.
I've used quite a number of GPS navigation programs, Tom Tom 7, Co Pilot 7, NavMan, Garmin and I can say personal experience with Australian Maps is Tom Tom routes the best for me. I've had Co-pilot do a huge loop around a destination when there was a straight road to the place or choose really interesting routes.
Trem said:
It may be an idea to pay the extra. I have flashed a new ROM 3 times in the past week so it's been useful having the files at hand. The CoPilot software auto installs when the Diamond boots up again which is very useful. I keep the files on the root of the internal storage as it recommends.
I don't know if it's the same for the normal version of CoPilot 7 but as I said the Diamond version is VGA and uses the scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the map.
I have been busy at work recently and haven't really thought about testing the software properly but I have some free time soon so will check it out more. In particular I want to check it when walking as alot have complained about the GPS on the Diamond when walking.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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Normal version also installs on Internal Storage if you want it to. I had tried the normal version before and I'm now setting up the Diamond edition. If I spot any changes I'll report
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I've been using the 7-day trial version of CoPilot7 on my Compact IV
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May I ask where you got this from? I've searched high-and-low as I'm keen to try it out before parting with my cash...
(of course, posting this means I'll find it in the next few minutes...)
Mathew
mkhattab said:
Normal version also installs on Internal Storage if you want it to. I had tried the normal version before and I'm now setting up the Diamond edition. If I spot any changes I'll report
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So, its been about a week, found anything?
I'm also very intersted in this.
BTW, the 7-day trial is only officially available with T-Mobile. I have asked ALK if there is a demo version of the Diamond edtion, but there isn't.
The other thing that puts me off is that for the combined price of the TD and CoPilot (with Euro maps) I could get a nice standalone sat nav solution. However, I have bene told by ALK support that if I buy the Diamond edition of CoPilot and then change my phone, I will need to re-purchase CoPilot. I don't know how true this is, but two different ALK support guys have now told me the same. However they did also say that the standard version would run perfectly happily on a Diamond.
It would be nice to confirm whether or not the Diamond edition does have other benefits over the standard, apart from the ease of installation. If not then I can't see any reason to buy the Diamond version.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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The normal version is not VGA, if you look closely at the splash screen and the graphics you will notice a slight pixellation of the images/graphics. This is because the regular WinMo version is designed for QVGA or lower.
But the maps do not pixellate because I assume they are vector graphics (or some equivalent).
I have the normal Copilot 7 and can confirm that all the veatures mentioned for the Dimond version appear to work the same for the normal version.
I installed by using the Copilot Central to install the program, then I just copied the folders off of my SD card to the internal storage.
Some instruction for copying the SD card can be found here:
http://support.alk.eu.com/cgi-bin/alk.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=649&p_created=1194449850
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I'm also very intersted in this.
BTW, the 7-day trial is only officially available with T-Mobile. I have asked ALK if there is a demo version of the Diamond edtion, but there isn't.
The other thing that puts me off is that for the combined price of the TD and CoPilot (with Euro maps) I could get a nice standalone sat nav solution. However, I have bene told by ALK support that if I buy the Diamond edition of CoPilot and then change my phone, I will need to re-purchase CoPilot. I don't know how true this is, but two different ALK support guys have now told me the same. However they did also say that the standard version would run perfectly happily on a Diamond.
It would be nice to confirm whether or not the Diamond edition does have other benefits over the standard, apart from the ease of installation. If not then I can't see any reason to buy the Diamond version.
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I think that like for TT7 the maps are registered to a code that is valid for the device it is being used on....change your device then there is a code bust and you cannot use the maps.....hence the need to get the maps again
.....not sure if/how you can transfer your maps from one device to another (when you upgrade)
Related
Nav N Go, the makers of the iGO mapping solution just unveiled iGO8. iGO8 is unique in that it provides not just 2D and tilted 3D maps, but realistic 3D maps with building renderings in select US cities. Of course, not all buildings are rendered, but it looks realistic enough to actually help guide you along the way, especially in busier areas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUzQkR0H2S0&feature=related
Anyone know how to make skins for the igo8 final? or if tmc works with the tilt
If it does run, it will probably run like cr*p in the 3D view w/o the display drivers that the Kaiser lacks. Regular TomTom is bad enough. My old Axim X5 runs it smoother than my Tilt!
Got it running looks nice but struggles like hell on certain parts and when you have loads of buildings showing up its working hard. I still use tomtom still.
i have it.
I have installed I Go on my Kaiser.
Works a treat and looks great. I think it is as fast if not faster than TomTom.
and i love the TEXT TO SPeach when it says the mane of the road, not just turn right. The 3D mountains look great as well.
PS i dont work for I Go either.
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and i love the TEXT TO SPeach when it says the mane of the road, not just turn right. The 3D mountains look great as well.
PS i dont work for I Go either.
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The iGo clearly does not come with spell-checker ;-)
iGo8 - 2008
I've just installed iGO 2008 ...
For a couple of reason ... firstly, to watch the 3D buildings everyone is raving about and secondly, to see if it will run on the TytnII (since the official site states it can).
Verdict:
Yes, iGO8 2008 does run on the TytnII and better still ... unlike the previous version, it does not object to HTC Home engaged in the today screen
The initial menu screen is split into four boxes, 'Find', 'Route', 'Manage' an 'Setting', with soft buttons for 'Map/Cockpit screen' and 'Exit'. The navigation screen is also somewhat different, almost like a flight sim cockpit view. The SD card directory structure has the buildings held seperately.
GPS locked on quickly and auto-set to port 4 but with a high baud rate .. this can be changed though, since I found Tomtom wasn't a huge fan of fast baud rate comms to the GPS.
Some nice features like a menu shortcut to add 'speed camera locations with speed limit reference' on the move, and verbally announcing the GPS dis-engaging ... it's early days and I'll feedback any major issues, but if the gossip that Tomtom are going to discontinue the development of Tomtom for the PDA are true, then it looks like iGO will be the way to go.
I've enclosed a link to the manual if anyone wants to look at it [from the official site @ 1.4mb]
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I've just installed iGO 2008 ...
For a couple of reason ... firstly, to watch the 3D buildings everyone is raving about and secondly, to see if it will run on the TytnII (since the official site states it can).
Verdict:
Yes, iGO8 2008 does run on the TytnII and better still ... unlike the previous version, it does not object to HTC Home engaged in the today screen
The initial menu screen is split into four boxes, 'Find', 'Route', 'Manage' an 'Setting', with soft buttons for 'Map/Cockpit screen' and 'Exit'. The navigation screen is also somewhat different, almost like a flight sim cockpit view. The SD card directory structure has the buildings held seperately.
GPS locked on quickly and auto-set to port 4 but with a high baud rate .. this can be changed though, since I found Tomtom wasn't a huge fan of fast baud rate comms to the GPS.
Some nice features like a menu shortcut to add 'speed camera locations with speed limit reference' on the move, and verbally announcing the GPS dis-engaging ... it's early days and I'll feedback any major issues, but if the gossip that Tomtom are going to discontinue the development of Tomtom for the PDA are true, then it looks like iGO will be the way to go.
I've enclosed a link to the manual if anyone wants to look at it [from the official site @ 1.4mb]
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Thank you for your feedback and I do like igo8 alot better then the old igo. But I wish they will add more building for the usa maps
Hi all,
I made a data.zip for IGO8 which is working with rezolution 240_240 - http://rapidshare.com/files/115724040/data.zip.html
It isn't look like the original ones, but this is just the beginning.
One bug - after pushing the button Set point as a final destination on navigate screen the program shows an FFUI error - press OK button and everything will be OK.
I'm starting to fix size ot some menu bottons and to improve the skin at all.
Everybody who like to help is wellcome.
Enjoy
outlook contacts
when i put mine outlook contacts in mine phone abouth 200 pices i wil get a error when i start igo8 when i remove the contact's from mine phone all works fine
i did try to remove htc home i won't work
when i put mine contacts on to mine sim it works all fine
i have software NoThrills_WM61_NLD_V3 on mine phone
rom version 3.14.172.0.nld
radio version 1.65.14.06
can sombody help please its to strainge
or is there a good software version that wil work dutch software is no pree
As a dedicated Tomtom user I decided to load up IGO8 and have a look to see how it was and so far I am pretty impressed.
It certainly picked up the GPS signal a lot quicker than Tomtom 6.032. It was very accurate and I like the "You are speeding" feature.
So far I have not had Text to speech operate, not sure why, might be the maps here in Australia.
I would like more choice with voices (I tend to like John Cleese in Tomtom).
It is a real memory hog though, I only run a P3600i and when IGO is running I have 3 meg of free operating memory so it really isn't practical for me at the moment. Maybe whn I can get my hands on the HTC Diamond.
I will give more feedback once I have used it a bit more.
Andych said:
... and I like the "You are speeding" feature.
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I forgot to mention in my ealier thread
... I decided to try out the 'practical' side of the iGO and engage the voices whilst being a passenger in my Wifes car on the Motorway (autobaan/freeway)
... My Wife was not a happy bunny to hear a complete stranger out of the PDA telling her she was speeding !!
I'll have to find out if the software has a 'don't p*** your wife off' function ... mine took years to perfect
I too stopped using TomTom in favor or the latest iGO, the speed warnings, the reading of the street names and not just simple "turn left or right", the buildings and ofc, the 3d terrain is what for me played the major part in swapping over, being able to see if I should be going up or down, below or above another road, is really helpful in new places.
iGo runs fine on my kaiser, up to 3-4 building in medium distance works fine, more then that and it begins to struggle, but, since there aren't many spots with buildings displayed where I drive everyday, it doesn't really bother me.
Oh, and for the dude who asked, TMC doesn't obviously work since we got no FM tuner, and there's no TMC over the interweb in iGo from what I can see
error
i have install igo8 and found these issues.
when i exit out of igo it changes my volume to mute.
when i change the time zone it does not save and it changes the time zone on my device.
The timezone issue is known and their site as a really good explanation on how to fix it, all sites should be searched, not just this one
Just add this to your Storage Card\iGO8\Sys.txt
Code:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
eskostar said:
The timezone issue is known and their site as a really good explanation on how to fix it, all sites should be searched, not just this one
Just add this to your Storage Card\iGO8\Sys.txt
Code:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
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can you link the site so i can go to them
thanks very much
North America
So there are no maps for North America? Is there a demo available ?
Praygo said:
So there are no maps for North America? Is there a demo available ?
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I know that there are version 7 maps for USA available including 3D buildings etc. but not v8 as yet.
I don't think this would be a problem as I've had iGO8 on v7 and v8 of the UK (with buildings) and they both work, so the answer would be yes, but not up to date maps.
Demo - There was a beta version that expired 1st May 2008 or there abouts.
** Note ** USA is available as individual 'States' and not in a single package like Tomtom.
So has anyone been able to get V7 US maps (state-by-state) working on V8 Final or was everyone who's had success with the At&T Tilt (seen a few Tilts in signatures) using the beta version?
ajs007 said:
I know that there are version 7 maps for USA available including 3D buildings etc. but not v8 as yet.
I don't think this would be a problem as I've had iGO8 on v7 and v8 of the UK (with buildings) and they both work, so the answer would be yes, but not up to date maps.
Demo - There was a beta version that expired 1st May 2008 or there abouts.
** Note ** USA is available as individual 'States' and not in a single package like Tomtom.
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I ended up ditching IGO for miomap. Runs faster
I've been using it for a week and a half now and I'm going to say that Igo8 is the best out there. I love it. It works better and faster than tomtom. Also the 3D buildings look fine and perform fine on my phone.
Does anyone know of any other GPS software available for the Kaiser I'm currently using TOMTOM but was wondering what others were available. I need it to have UK maps and I also travel to Florida fairly often so maps for there would be nice too.
I dont want this to turn into another " What is the best GPS software" thread. Just what is available out there and possibly a link to trial versions (if your feeling nice)
livefastdiefun87 said:
Does anyone know of any other GPS software available for the Kaiser I'm currently using TOMTOM but was wondering what others were available. I need it to have UK maps and I also travel to Florida fairly often so maps for there would be nice too.
I dont want this to turn into another " What is the best GPS software" thread. Just what is available out there and possibly a link to trial versions (if your feeling nice)
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GARMIN Mobile XT.
shameless bump
You always have the one that Orange do?????
garmin...igo
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You always have the one that Orange do?????
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No NEVER!!!! use orange maps lol
Windows Live Search Mobile. Great software from Microsoft. Since you're UK based it has maps available for the UK and US. Hope you have a data plan though because it downloads maps on the fly.
I use a combination of tomtom, garmin,google and live search moblie....tomtom is more responsive, performance wise compared to garmin. Garmin is more refined and has some neat features.Bottomline, it all depends on personal preference.
Sygic McGuider
garmin seems nice. i know you can load your own custom poi's, and not be limited to 10mb like on a gps unit!!!
How about Navigon MobilNavigator.
I have been using it on my Kaiser ever since I got the Kaiser (I used it on a Herald, a Wizard and a Universal before) and I have always been very happy with it.
I find that the route planning is the best available.
Give it a try.
Good luck with your choice.
nebc100
I've tried a few different GPS apps and I think that the new iGO8 beats them all. Give it a shot... can't say anything about the maps in UK and US though.
Destinator...
Wayfinder - can subscribe to another country for a month or more.
did anyone had problems with wm 6.1 and igo 6 plus?
since i had instaled wm 6.1 (the official htc release) ..i couldn't reinstall igo 6 plus...
Yes
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Totally agree, this is some great software, the maps are in great detail and the signposts/exit direction signs are lovely. Really easy to see. Then theres the TTS, best one yet - it actually says 'take exit off motorway, junction 3a' in a non robotic way. Its all good..
Google this - Sygic McGuider - and you'll find it..
I personaly use miomaps mainly becasue, you can put on whatever maps you want and all the United States are divided up. The program plus Florida maps is under 92mb
I use iGuidance 4, it gives you door to door directions and works well with my at&t tilt. I use GPS Utilities if I am out camping and hiking.
maporama is pretty good - used it on my i780
http://shop.maporama.com/index.php?cPath=43
but I use tt6 on my kaiser
My personal choice...
I've tried destinator, route 66, sygic...
was a staunch tomtom 6 fan until I got my hands on ;-) a copy of IGO 8 - it really has all the best features from all the other systems in one app. The speed camera support is phenomenal - if you pass the start of an average speed camera, it monitors your average speed and tells you if you go above it until you get past the average speed camera zone... and with static cameras, it only beeps if you're speeding, and keeps beeping until you slow down (Route66 is the only other that does this)...
There is also a Text to Speech engine (TTS) so if you want it to, it will actually speak the road names.
You can just copy the relevant files to your sd card and run it from there without installing it...
Message me if you need more info...
Hi everyone,
Just a quick question, and I have tried searching...
I'm looking at upgrading my Tom tom v6 to v7 and buying new maps. The main reason I am doing this is because my maps are really out of date now, im finding lots of roads that don't exist, and extra turnings on roundabouts.
Does V7 with 8.25 maps work with mapshare?
This is a great feature, so hope us Pda users can take advantage.
Thanks,
Rob
Using an 825 map right now and with Tomtom Home2 I can use the mapshare function So the answer is: yes
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Using an 825 map right now and with Tomtom Home2 I can use the mapshare function So the answer is: yes
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Great, thanks for the advice Cryonic. Sounds like I will have some new settings to play with then...
what is the latest map now for tomtom on a pda 825........?
Depends on which part of the world you're using for western europe I believe it's 825.2159
^what about usa?
i'm out of the loop on the tomtom
Quick search tells me that 825.2159 is also the latest map for USA and Canada
Anyone know why western and centrel europe 825.2159 is only a gig in size but the older number 825.2158 is nearly 2 gig but the later is supposed to be newer
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Anyone know why western and centrel europe 825.2159 is only a gig in size but the older number 825.2158 is nearly 2 gig but the later is supposed to be newer
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This thread is all going to get people sore I suspect
I suggest you look on alternative forums for information on TT version 8.x maps....
However the reason the 8.25(2159) W&CE map is smaller than the 8.25(2158) version is due to the extra information the 2158 version contains. The actual map content is the same however some additional information in some maps is not required by some TT versions (not just the Windows Mobile version, but the 'real' TT PNA's as well). Some maps contain IQ routing information as well as Advanced Lane Guidance neither of which is supported by some TT versions such as the Windows Mobile versions. Therefore this information is stripped out of the map you would buy for your PDA (should it actually be available for a Kaiser, which it isn't.....).
Hopefully that reply doesn't cross the line? but if it does moderate it as you feel appropriate.
Andy
ADB100 said:
This thread is all going to get people sore I suspect
I suggest you look on alternative forums for information on TT version 8.x maps....
However the reason the 8.25(2159) W&CE map is smaller than the 8.25(2158) version is due to the extra information the 2158 version contains. The actual map content is the same however some additional information in some maps is not required by some TT versions (not just the Windows Mobile version, but the 'real' TT PNA's as well). Some maps contain IQ routing information as well as Advanced Lane Guidance neither of which is supported by some TT versions such as the Windows Mobile versions. Therefore this information is stripped out of the map you would buy for your PDA (should it actually be available for a Kaiser, which it isn't.....).
Hopefully that reply doesn't cross the line? but if it does moderate it as you feel appropriate.
Andy
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Thanks Andy but I do have 8.25(2159) running on my kaiser so it must be avaiable - shame we cant have the IQ though
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Thanks Andy but I do have 8.25(2159) running on my kaiser so it must be avaiable - shame we cant have the IQ though
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Yes so have many people, however it can't be running legally on a Kaiser - neither the application, nor the map as TomTom Navigator 7 for Windows Mobile is not commercially available. It is only available pre-installed on three HTC devices (up to now) - the Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and IOLite, and even then it is only in certain providers official ROMs. Users of these and ONLY these official devices can purchase and download official 8.x maps.
If you have it running on your Kaiser you didn't pay TomTom for it......
Andy
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Yes so have many people, however it can't be running legally on a Kaiser - neither the application, nor the map as TomTom Navigator 7 for Windows Mobile is not commercially available. It is only available pre-installed on three HTC devices (up to now) - the Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and IOLite, and even then it is only in certain providers official ROMs. Users of these and ONLY these official devices can purchase and download official 8.x maps.
If you have it running on your Kaiser you didn't pay TomTom for it......
Andy
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You got me
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Thanks Andy but I do have 8.25(2159) running on my kaiser so it must be avaiable - shame we cant have the IQ though
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well it is not supposed to be available for the kaiser. Unfortunately, TomTom considers this illegal use of software.
Hi
The mod has closed the TomTom thread below prematurely. I've tried to install TT7 on my diamond2 using a number of different cab files, but each time a message pops up cancelling the installation and tells me that my device is not compatible.
Can anyone direct me to a cab for TT7 that is PROVEN to have installed on a stock ROM diamond2?
Thanks
Stoatie
PS - the phone ROCKS. Touch flo much better and much more functional.
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Hi
The mod has closed the TomTom thread below prematurely. I've tried to install TT7 on my diamond2 using a number of different cab files, but each time a message pops up cancelling the installation and tells me that my device is not compatible.
Can anyone direct me to a cab for TT7 that is PROVEN to have installed on a stock ROM diamond2?
Thanks
Stoatie
PS - the phone ROCKS. Touch flo much better and much more functional.
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Hi, try searching for 'ttn7.9185 vga black.cab'. Looks like I might have caused some confusion with the other thread as its obviously the wrong resolution. I didn't realise sorry!
It does work though. Some of the interface is slightly stretched. I don't use TT so didn't really notice.
Apologies!
TomTom 6 does not work, it either crashes or the display is distorted.
I installed a TT7 cab from on these forums that works on the surface (when using a free map downloaded from tomtom's website) but screws up the navigation when driving.
Even if the version 7 cab worked properly there doesn't seem to be any way to get legal maps for it. My paid-for maps from my version6 tomtom are not recognised by version 7 and I have wasted £39 on new maps because Tomtom Home won't let me install them to my device stating that I have the wrong navigation software or something.
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TomTom 6 does not work, it either crashes or the display is distorted.
I installed a TT7 cab from on these forums that works on the surface (when using a free map downloaded from tomtom's website) but screws up the navigation when driving.
Even if the version 7 cab worked properly there doesn't seem to be any way to get legal maps for it. My paid-for maps from my version6 tomtom are not recognised by version 7 and I have wasted £39 on new maps because Tomtom Home won't let me install them to my device stating that I have the wrong navigation software or something.
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Exactly. Which is why at 11:30pm I gave up, consigned my TOMTOM, and the maps I'd legally paid for, to history and went to Handango and paid for and downloaded CoPilot. I heartily recommend it. TOMTOM are assholes. Sorry for the profanity, but they DONT DESERVE ANYTHING FROM US.
Chill...its a new unit...new software
Why should TomTom have to keep up with Windows?
Yes you paid but you paid for a product that worked for your previous phone.
I can sense your frustration but TomTom have no guarantee to ensure its products work with all products just like you wouldnt expect the first dos version of Pacman to work in XP/Vista
I'm sure they will in due time release a patch for it - and I'm sure a similar issue will occur in 6.5 and in 7 of windows mobile
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Chill...its a new unit...new software
Why should TomTom have to keep up with Windows?
Yes you paid but you paid for a product that worked for your previous phone.
I can sense your frustration but TomTom have no guarantee to ensure its products work with all products just like you wouldnt expect the first dos version of Pacman to work in XP/Vista
I'm sure they will in due time release a patch for it - and I'm sure a similar issue will occur in 6.5 and in 7 of windows mobile
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It's nothing to do with the new phone. It's their decision to treat everyone like criminals. The last time I changed phone they made me wait 2 months before they would let me transfer the licence for the maps to the new device. This was Western Europe which I bought for a sizable chunk of cash from them. Their support is awful. The software itself is clunky on the device and terrible on the desktop. I just don't feel like devoting 2 days of my life to this everytime I get a new phone.
I have to say CoPilot has been a dream in comparison. It looks so much fresher and is so much more intuitive to use. Things like contact look-up just WORK, and it picks up the GPS position in seconds compared to the TOMTOM. Honestly, I've seen people saying the CoPilot routing isn't great, and I have to confess that I haven't used it for any challenging long routes yet, but I'm EXTREMELY impressed by it. It's built for Windows Mobile, and compared to TOMTOM, it shows.
Anyone who is thinking of plonking down cash for TT maps should instead go and download the CoPilot trial to have a look at it.
wonderstoat said:
Exactly. Which is why at 11:30pm I gave up, consigned my TOMTOM, and the maps I'd legally paid for, to history and went to Handango and paid for and downloaded CoPilot. I heartily recommend it. TOMTOM are assholes. Sorry for the profanity, but they DONT DESERVE ANYTHING FROM US.
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Hi,
What version did you purchase, Was it the touch diamond edition or the normal version?
Thanks
caghelo said:
Hi,
What version did you purchase, Was it the touch diamond edition or the normal version?
Thanks
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I got the touch Diamond version. You download 2 folders which you copy to the device, and it then kicks off the installation. I was worried cause I'd selected the Diamond version that it would install in main memory instead of on the card, but it gave me the same options you'd expect anyway.
wonderstoat said:
It's nothing to do with the new phone. It's their decision to treat everyone like criminals. The last time I changed phone they made me wait 2 months before they would let me transfer the licence for the maps to the new device. This was Western Europe which I bought for a sizable chunk of cash from them. Their support is awful. The software itself is clunky on the device and terrible on the desktop. I just don't feel like devoting 2 days of my life to this everytime I get a new phone.
I have to say CoPilot has been a dream in comparison. It looks so much fresher and is so much more intuitive to use. Things like contact look-up just WORK, and it picks up the GPS position in seconds compared to the TOMTOM. Honestly, I've seen people saying the CoPilot routing isn't great, and I have to confess that I haven't used it for any challenging long routes yet, but I'm EXTREMELY impressed by it. It's built for Windows Mobile, and compared to TOMTOM, it shows.
Anyone who is thinking of plonking down cash for TT maps should instead go and download the CoPilot trial to have a look at it.
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Where can I find the Copilot trial?
wonderstoat said:
I got the touch Diamond version. You download 2 folders which you copy to the device, and it then kicks off the installation. I was worried cause I'd selected the Diamond version that it would install in main memory instead of on the card, but it gave me the same options you'd expect anyway.
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Hi,
I have the Touch Diamond2 and the CoPilot 7 Touch Diamond edition. However, i cannot get the program to work.
1. I copied the entire contents of thd DVD to my microSD card and started the install (the copilot.wm6ppc.cab file in the 2577 directory).
2. It installs but when i start CoPilot, i get a "Unable to open CoPilot. Please make sure that the storage card is inserted or that the data has been properly downloaded"
3. After pressing ok, i eventually get to the 'Tips and Tricks' screen, then i cant use the screen to input and then forced to soft reset the phone
Does anyone know a way around this problem?
Thanks for any help.
M
Any one know if Copilot 7 for the Touch Pro2 runs on the Touch Diamond2 correctly.
I know there is a Diamond2 special edition, I ask this question because the Diamond2 special edition is not supplied with the Copilot Central Software but the Touch Pro2 is
I Have installed my old Co-Pilot 7 from my Orbit 2 and it does seem to work ok. I had a slight problem installing it just having the maps on the SD card but then I used the DVD install to copy the maps to the device and it is working ok (bear in mind not tested it on a major journey as yet)
It displays using the full screen.
Hope that helps
Thanks for the reply I think I will go ahead with Touch Pro 2 software as the screen resolution is about the same. I have finally given up on TomTom 7 it won't let me use the maps I purchased from Tomtom for my Touch Cruise.
I've got CoPilot 7 on my TD2 and its fine - contact CoPilot support to get the 480x800 res update (which they developed for the Touch HD).
Does that res update sort the aspect ratio? My version of CoPilot fills the whole screen, but all the button images the map ar stretched out. The Red dot that shows you where you are on the map is an oval. Does this version fix that?
andyturner said:
Does that res update sort the aspect ratio? My version of CoPilot fills the whole screen, but all the button images the map ar stretched out. The Red dot that shows you where you are on the map is an oval. Does this version fix that?
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Yes it does - that was my problem too until this update
I downloaded the latest version and used my current product key. Contact Alk support for the link to the new version.
I did have to delete two files to allow me to enter the product key without errors though. One called CPL7.DAT (in Device/Windows) and then PK.TXT file in \StorageCard\CoPilot\Save
gadgetmanrob said:
I downloaded the latest version and used my current product key. REMOVED
I did have to delete two f...s also, might be advisable to remove the link
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I second that comment about the link in this thread. ALK may go spare
For the record, i had the CoPilot 7 for Touch Diamond, that failed to run properly on the Diamond2. ALK sent me the link to the HD version on their tech support site, with Europe maps, now its running fine on the TD2.
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mgumbs said:
I second that comment about the link in this thread. ALK may go spare
For the record, i had the CoPilot 7 for Touch Diamond, that failed to run properly on the Diamond2. ALK sent me the link to the HD version on their tech support site, with Europe maps, now its running fine on the TD2.
M
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Oops. I've removed the link. Can MartyH32 remove the link from the quote part of his response please.
gadgetmanrob said:
Oops. I've removed the link. Can MartyH32 remove the link from the quote part of his response please.
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I'd be surprised if it were an issue. It only appeared to be UK maps plus your licence key dictates what you're able to use anyway.
Hi,
Anybody got any pictures of co pilot running please?
Is there a Speed indicator on the screen while navigating?
What is the best version to get normal or the diamond version?
Thanks
Hello,
I have just receive ma D2 and in the packet there is a trial 15 days CD version of Copilot 7 and it work perfectly.
You can learn more here (Click On the French Regions)
http://www.alk.com/htc/
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chevvy said:
Hi,
Anybody got any pictures of co pilot running please?
Is there a Speed indicator on the screen while navigating?
What is the best version to get normal or the diamond version?
Thanks
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Don't have any running pictures, but you won't see much different from the screen shots on the ALK website.
Yes there is a speed indicator. You display a whole range of different things (only one at a time however) including speed indicator while navigating. Incidently its seems very accurate (or at least it matched my car's speedo!).
I have the original/full version. With the Diamond version the only difference is that you don't get a CD/Copilot Central - the app to control and configure from your PC.
If you are going to be running on the TD2, then I personally would stick with the full version. The Diamond version was only there as TD1 did not have a MicroSD card. Don't forget to use the ALK support website (look up "How do I Re-create my SD card").
Darrenives said:
Don't have any running pictures, but you won't see much different from the screen shots on the ALK website.
Yes there is a speed indicator. You display a whole range of different things (only one at a time however) including speed indicator while navigating. Incidently its seems very accurate (or at least it matched my car's speedo!).
I have the original/full version. With the Diamond version the only difference is that you don't get a CD/Copilot Central - the app to control and configure from your PC.
If you are going to be running on the TD2, then I personally would stick with the full version. The Diamond version was only there as TD1 did not have a MicroSD card. Don't forget to use the ALK support website (look up "How do I Re-create my SD card").
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Cheers buddy have placed my order, had to many problems with tomtom.
Thanks again.
hi,
i had copilot7 trial version(7.8.0.319) supplied with my diamond2 French rom,
but traffic info seems not be available(i am in france) is it the same for you?
Is the 7.8.0.319 version the one supplied by ALK support ?
for those with traffic via gprs, is it good, accurate (tomtom like)
it's a pity if it's not activate in the trial because it's number 2 in my decision's criteria to buy or not that one.
Edit: and nothing about the option price for traffic info, on ALk website : is it free when copilot7 is activated or an annual fee?
thanks regards
Anybody notice the Lag at roundabouts. It takes about 2 seconds once I have exited a roundabout for copilot to fix on the road I have taken. The speed indicator is not real time as it was on my td1 using tt7. All of these problems were present on tt7. I didnt think they would be present on copilot thats why I purchased it. There is defiantly a lag or a os problem on the td2 as I was not getting any problems on td1 it was all real time. I am getting really frustrated now, wish I hadn't jumped boat in getting the td2, regret selling the td1.
I guess nobody has lag?
Alk support haven't repiled back.
I also tried the newer version of copilot on the htc website but the lag is still there.
HELP
Copilot from Polaris to TD2
i have Copilot installation disk from my Polaris, i tried to install it in my TD2 however during installation it says" you are not authorized to install this product"
My TD2 has 15 days trial when i bought it a week back.
Any work around how to install copilot from my polaris to work on TD2?