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Music - album art and the library

I had issues getting album art to work (read it here before as well)
I have tested some different methods, but now finally got it:
- connect as usual with activesync, then explore to the location you want to have you files and copy the stuff.
- when you want to have album art to show up with your albums/songs, you need to make sure that you have a cover (folder.jpg or whatever name) in the same folder when copying: thus not after the fact, as it will never work.
- in the library go to "all songs", you will actually see the files appearing during copying, together with the album art.
an additional _htc<name>.jpg will be created as well, I suppose this one is actually being used by the library. Creating this file manually does not work - in my experience anyway.
Give it a try if you have similar troubles. For me, this is the only way for it to work properly.

bakman said:
I had issues getting album art to work (read it here before as well)
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Why not just use wmp to sync? work flawless for me...
You can drap and drop any picture to album to create album art...
create playlist, then drag and drop the mp3(or drop the whole album), then sync.

Idiot steps...?
I am almost sorry to ask this question but please forgive my stupidity:
Can someone bullet the tasks necessary to add an album with art to my Diamond. I have had a go with Windows Media PLayer but have never synched music to my PDA before. I ended up with an album synched but it didn't appear in the Diamond player when I went to library all my Media Player library seemed to be listed but nothing would play.
Sorry for being so stupid...
Sam.

crash74 said:
Why not just use wmp to sync? work flawless for me...
You can drap and drop any picture to album to create album art...
create playlist, then drag and drop the mp3(or drop the whole album), then sync.
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i have the same problem, wmp syncs ok the music but dont the music art

I've create a folder for each MP3 and inserted a bmp 200x200

andres_lol said:
i have the same problem, wmp syncs ok the music but dont the music art
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I must confirm having kind of the same issue.
Step proces which seems to fail:
1. Update Artwork directly on desktop through WMP
2. Drag and drop "album" to WMP Sync
3. Sync and check all files in WMP Mobile4
4. Confirm : All music and Artwork visible.
5. TouchFlo Music screen: All music there, though missing Artwork.
Question - assumption (not found in Manual)
Artwork Jpeg's limited in size? Should not be as these files are not bigger than 50Kb --> Bug?
Hope someone finds the workaround.

bakman said:
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- when you want to have album art to show up with your albums/songs, you need to make sure that you have a cover (folder.jpg or whatever name) in the same folder when copying: thus not after the fact, as it will never work.
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does it mean I have to copy all mp3´s together with the associated .jpg from a folder on my PC to a folder of my mobile device, OR do I have to copy the .jpf first and the insert the .mp3 from my PC?
I don´t get the exact order!

what i do in the wmp...
- I select "album" in the wmp
- Drag and drop the folder which contain mp3
- Drag and drop the picture which i want to have it as album art, on top of the album which i had just drop
- WMP should should show ur album with the picture which you selected. (pic 1)
- Drag the whole album into the syn list and sync away....
In the diamond music folder, you should have what it show in the pic 2...

Mediaplayer syncing doesnt work for me.
@horstborsch; your first statement is correct. you must have a .jpg in your album in your pc-folder before copying, then when you copy the folder to your diamond, the album art will show up (choose "all songs" in the player)

bakman said:
Mediaplayer syncing doesnt work for me.
@horstborsch; your first statement is correct. you must have a .jpg in your album in your pc-folder before copying, then when you copy the folder to your diamond, the album art will show up (choose "all songs" in the player)
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Another possibility why it does not work is the length of the "artwork" naming - file transfered to the Diamond.
As I can see , I only have visibility on jpgs if it starts with ~HTC - xxxx.jpg
Am looking now hosw to fix, but it should be flawless when synchronizing directly with WMP. All other "manual" implications are simply not fitting the expectations as I never hand any issue with my Tytn II

ceevee369 said:
Another possibility why it does not work is the length of the "artwork" naming - file transfered to the Diamond.
As I can see , I only have visibility on jpgs if it starts with ~HTC - xxxx.jpg
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This htc<xxx>.jpg file is created automatically when you copy the files (or when you open the music library). I see the files+art appearing in realtime when I go to "all songs" and copy the folder.

I have same problem.
WMP sync carrying artwork into WMP Mobile fine.
But no artwork in Touch Flo 3D music app.
I want WMP sync to work not have to copy folders onto device.
Its well sad.
We have to beat this one.
I'm going to google!

Pocket player 3.6 --> forget about Diamond player
Give the 30 days trial a chance to show you how well integrated it is with the Diamond and forget about WMP and the Manila missing albums and art files.
It is just rubbish in my humble opinion
Only thing I can not figure out anymore how to set-up Pocket Player as main player disabeling the on-board Touchflo/ WMP player
Main issue is when using a bluetooth headphone with A2DP, this only controls the WMP- touchflo UI and not Pocket player. Changing volume works, but skip FF RW and pause-play interacts with WMP & touchflo only
Any advice is helpfull - googled it but no workaround identified

dunno if thisis the right thread, but it took me already to to page 200000 of the forum. I was just wondering if there is a problem with album art and *.wma files. drm-something
has anyone solved this problem or am i just a stupid fool using *.wma?

updating library?
Hey there!
I am using Tag&Rename for all my mp3 to edit via IDtags and embedding the cover art.
So all my mp3 on the XDA Diamond show the cover in the player.
But I do have an other problem or I didn't figured it out (Just have my Diamond for 2 days).
I transfered new songs via Winamp on my Diamond (used as USB device) - How can I now update the library that I will find the new ones?
Thanks Sebastian

All I want is for the touchflo 3D music player to display the folder.jpg just like windows media player. Can it do this?

The reason for this behaviour has been posted elsewhere, but I can't find it now. A clever bloke on PocketNow explains things here...link.
Apparently, when WMP syncs it copies over a copy of the mp3 file without album art embedded and a separate jpg of the album art. You can't stop it doing this!
HTC Audio Manager in Touch Flo 3D is programmed to find the album art in its embedded form in mp3 files. You can't do anything about that either!
So he very clearly walks us through a work round. It works very well and doesn't take very long. But you would want to get fairly organised about what music you want on your device as you wouldn't want to have to do this frequently. Essentially he suggests using an app called "Flash Renamer" to rename all the jpg files on your device because they start with complex numerical filenames. Then you use an app called "Mp3Tag" to embed the artwork into the mp3 files on your device.
Also when you want to change your music you have to start all over again by deleting the music on your device. Otherwise WMP will sync additional copies of the same mp3's, as the file on your device is different to the one it wants to sync (that is, the device file has been changed by the workround to one with artwork embedded).
The workround is good and also keeps WMP Mobile functional if you prefer to use that.
Again the workround is here...link.

Once again I have to ask - why isnt folder.jpg sufficient. I cannot be bothered will all of this embedding art in files nonsense

Ok can anyone advise how to show more than one album at a time . I can get the album to show but only one

Anyone any ideas?

Touchflo 3d crashes when I open the music tab

As the title says, really annoying... its been fine but now when ever I go to the music tab in Touchflow 3d, touchflo has to restart.. tried a soft reset and turning off/on, still does it.. anyone else had this problem and fixed it without a hard reset?

Had that too... try re-encoding the files.

I too have just had this problem.
I had deleted some songs from the phone and the TouchFLo player interface said tha the somgs were stil listed.
Also, I couldn't get any pictures of the album art to appear.
I used Explore via Activesync to delet all music albums, songs, album art from the 'Internal Storage' (HTC Touch Diamond) and then did a soft reset to see if that woud prompt the phone to refresh the TouchFLo madia player interface to search again and reset its list.
That's when the ******* thing started this crashing.
Windows Media player mobile is working fine.
I have many programs installed and do not wish to hard reset unelss it is absolutley necessary.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Can't really recode as I've deleted all the music files.
Cheers for now.

Only way I could get it to work more or less properly was to sync music via media player and set it to convert to wma as it syncs. I'm still looking for alternatives as syncing with wmp is a pain.

OK, I fixed it.
I had tried using WMP to sync, but it still didn't cure the problem.
For anyone who still has this problem, please try this....
1) Go into file manager on your phone
2) Navigate to My Device > Application Data > HTC > AudioManager_Eng
3) Go into the Playlists folder and delete all playlists.
4) Exit File Manager
Try the Music application again. It should now seach for music again.
The above fixed mine.
Good luck

rowleav said:
OK, I fixed it.
I had tried using WMP to sync, but it still didn't cure the problem.
For anyone who still has this problem, please try this....
1) Go into file manager on your phone
2) Navigate to My Device > Application Data > HTC > AudioManager_Eng
3) Go into the Playlists folder and delete all playlists.
4) Exit File Manager
Try the Music application again. It should now seach for music again.
The above fixed mine.
Good luck
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I will bare this in mind for (I'm sure) when it happens again, sadly I got bored and did a hard reset before I checked replies here.

I got the same problem here. There are some mp3-files that seems to crash the Touch 3D Music app while it is scanning the Internal Storage. While it happens the whole Touch 3D is laggy. A very frustating bug I think. And syncing via WMP will only help when it (re)encodes the original MP3 to WMA. I think it's HTC who had to fix this bug.
On some files it helps to first remove all Mp3tags and than retagging them. So I think it must be something with the tags.

I have the same problem on my HTC Touch Pro.
after adding album art the music tab crashed.
I deleted all the music files (from the storage card) and tried what rowleav suggested than did a soft reset, but the music tab keeps craching........
This really s....
don't like to do a hard reset as I have a lot of software on it.
anyone knows a way to fix this ???

I have a 16 gb Micro SD card on the Touch Pro, and the Touch Flo player is really not up to the job. Selecting an album or a play list is okay, but I like to listen to music on random. Select all files and it can take 5-10 minutes for the player to display album covers. And sometimes it crashes.
Pocket Tunes handles this many files far better. But I can't get it set up to be the default music player with my HTC bluetooth headset. It still opens the Flo player.
WMP works okay if it is open, but doesn't have cross-fade. Which I like.

I fixed it
Only deleting the playlists like rowleav wrote did not work for me I also had to delete a file called "AudioManager_Eng.vol" (application data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AudioManager_Eng.vol)
Then a soft reset isn't needed. Just go back to the music tab and it will create the AudioManager_Eng.vol file again and search for music files.
now i have to try and add my music again to find the one causing the problems. at least it's now easy to repair once it goes wrong again

Worked!
laurens23 said:
I fixed it
Only deleting the playlists like rowleav wrote did not work for me I also had to delete a file called "AudioManager_Eng.vol" (application data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AudioManager_Eng.vol)
Then a soft reset isn't needed. Just go back to the music tab and it will create the AudioManager_Eng.vol file again and search for music files.
now i have to try and add my music again to find the one causing the problems. at least it's now easy to repair once it goes wrong again
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This worked beautifully! Thanx!

I'm having the same issue - with a crash every time I go to the music tab. I was having problems deleting the AudioManager_Eng.vol file. I did a soft reset to delete the file, and now all seems to be working as it re-builds the library.

i have a similar problem but tf3d hangs when i want to stop the musicplayer and select another tab. only 'start' still works so i can stop and restart tf3d but when i finish listening to music the ritual starts over.
any suggestions ? (i removed the mentioned files but that didn't fixe it).

how the covers & music works in diamond?

i can't understand if i can have all my albums listed in the T3D and choose them [like the photos] or i can just see the songs are playing...
Now i put two albums and i see just one cover [every song has the sam cover obviously...]
how does it works?
isn'it a kind of library?

hey
yes you can just download the free software mp3tag and add your foto save and put into the internal storage
ciao

yep.. but... in the music tab can't i see ALL the albums loaded in the diamond? or just the "playing" one?

IMHO, you should forget the inbuilt music tab, download S2P from these forums and use that!!!!

i've tried it.
i don't like it all.
why should i use something like the iphone??

when you need look all album you must create playlist with all song in your diamond and then you look all album image in TF3D, bud for skip to other album, you must skip all song in previous album.
Better soft is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377627

HFX9 said:
when you need look all album you must create playlist with all song in your diamond and then you look all album image in TF3D, bud for skip to other album, you must skip all song in previous album.
Better soft is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377627
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no this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408510
this build is compatible with diamond!

anubis.genix said:
no this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408510
this build is compatible with diamond!
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i use S2P v0.40 on my diamond and all work great.
in your trhead is only exe file no install cab !!

just place a JPEG image called "folder.jpg" in the folder of the album. That works for me on virtually _every_ application I use that supports cover art:
HTC Manila Audio Player
S2P 0.41e
XBMC - completely off topic ;-)
So I have it all-in-one...
BTW: I don't use WMP to sync my music to my device - i simply copy the folders over to the device. Wether it's done via ActiveSync or USB HDD mode doesn't make a difference for me.
As stated before the HTC Manila audio player places a rescaled version of the image right next to it in the same folder. S2P also seems to place some files in there...

THank you!
dajudge01 said:
just place a JPEG image called "folder.jpg" in the folder of the album. That works for me on virtually _every_ application I use that supports cover art:
HTC Manila Audio Player
S2P 0.41e
XBMC - completely off topic ;-)
So I have it all-in-one...
BTW: I don't use WMP to sync my music to my device - i simply copy the folders over to the device. Wether it's done via ActiveSync or USB HDD mode doesn't make a difference for me.
As stated before the HTC Manila audio player places a rescaled version of the image right next to it in the same folder. S2P also seems to place some files in there...
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THis workaround really worked! Thank you!

So far, no one has answered the original poster's question.
The answer to your question diamondino is whatever is in the Now Playing list in HTC Audio Manager is what will show up in the Manila audio player. You can create a playlist containing anything you want (i.e. all your music) and it will all show up in the 3D player. Or, if you just select an album from your library and press play, it will automatically add that album to Now Playing, and that's what will show in the 3D player.
Unfortunately, there is no way to scroll through albums on the 3D player, only songs in a playlist.

[Q]Gurus please help with TF3D Music player

Mods and other users, Please take time to read my Post fully, the problem i refer to has no connection with any of the threads on here that talk about problems with album artwork etc. Many thanks.
Ok here's my problem, i'll try and keep it as brief as poss -
I have all of my music safe and sound on my TD and all of the relevant artwork is there fine, everything fine to this point. However When i scroll to the Music tab in TF3D the only music that it finds are the two sample tracks that come pre loaded to the phone. I have to actually go into the library to find my own music, now that might not seem a huge problem to some people but the point is that TF3D should find this, and enable you to simply scroll through your albums that's the whole point!!
Now i've checked and the two 'sample' tracks are actually stored on the phone memory which is tiny, far too small to put your music on, this of course forces you to put your music in the Internal storage, indeed when i move these sample tracks off the phone memory and into the Internal storage they dissapear from the TF3D tab, and i have to go to the library to find them.
So i'm thinking that TF3D automatically looks to this folder (' Windows mobile device\Music ') for music and it simply ignores any music stored elsewhere in the internal storage, I have my music stored in Internal Storage\My Document\My music and TF3D doesn't find them there.
So i guess my question is - Can anyone/has anyone figured out how to change where TF3D looks for music, this would enable me to simply scroll to the album i want to listen to instead of having to go into the library and tell it where to look!! After all that's the whole point of Touch Flo, otherwise i may as well just use WMP
Thanks in advance if anyone can help, I've tried everything it's really doing my nut in now!!!!!

Ho about you...
use search on the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413371&highlight=Music

More specifically: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2481283&postcount=4

HTC Media Player Problem

please help me.
i deletet the default mp3s out of the internal storage.
i used my explorer to do so.
now i cant use other music with the htc music player.
i copied my new music to my diamond with the windows media player and the wmp on the diamond works still fine. but not the htc player. the deletet files are still in the htc player and i cant delete them.
can someone post a cab to reinstall the player or a sulution to workaround?
Thx

Do you mean the TF3D player?
what folder did you copy your music to?
In any event, you should be able to click on "Library" on the lower left, then go to "All Songs" and click on one of the songs - this should then load all your songs onto the TF3D player
..... alternatively, save your songs in different playlists and the go to "Playlists" instead of "All Songs" and selct one song and your playlist will be loaded.
Hope this helps

i have copied the songs in /internal storage/music/the Offspring/Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace/
when i go to library:
there are the 2 sample songs. but cant delete or play them because i deletet them out of the internal storage.
cant create a new playlist in the tf3d player. everytime i do this the player says the the song was added to the new playlist. but there is no song to add.

maybe a silly question - but did you soft reset?

Delete Application Data/HTC/AudioManager/AudioManager_Eng.vol and do soft reset.

yes i did a soft reset.
i try to delete the file.
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That solved the Problem. Thanks for your help
and sorry for my poor english