[Q]Gurus please help with TF3D Music player - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Mods and other users, Please take time to read my Post fully, the problem i refer to has no connection with any of the threads on here that talk about problems with album artwork etc. Many thanks.
Ok here's my problem, i'll try and keep it as brief as poss -
I have all of my music safe and sound on my TD and all of the relevant artwork is there fine, everything fine to this point. However When i scroll to the Music tab in TF3D the only music that it finds are the two sample tracks that come pre loaded to the phone. I have to actually go into the library to find my own music, now that might not seem a huge problem to some people but the point is that TF3D should find this, and enable you to simply scroll through your albums that's the whole point!!
Now i've checked and the two 'sample' tracks are actually stored on the phone memory which is tiny, far too small to put your music on, this of course forces you to put your music in the Internal storage, indeed when i move these sample tracks off the phone memory and into the Internal storage they dissapear from the TF3D tab, and i have to go to the library to find them.
So i'm thinking that TF3D automatically looks to this folder (' Windows mobile device\Music ') for music and it simply ignores any music stored elsewhere in the internal storage, I have my music stored in Internal Storage\My Document\My music and TF3D doesn't find them there.
So i guess my question is - Can anyone/has anyone figured out how to change where TF3D looks for music, this would enable me to simply scroll to the album i want to listen to instead of having to go into the library and tell it where to look!! After all that's the whole point of Touch Flo, otherwise i may as well just use WMP
Thanks in advance if anyone can help, I've tried everything it's really doing my nut in now!!!!!

Ho about you...
use search on the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413371&highlight=Music

More specifically: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2481283&postcount=4

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HTC Audio Manager crashing (this with two different Dimond, 3 different HSPL, 4 OSs)

Hi All,
A few days ago, a client of mine brought me back his diamond saying that the music player was not working.
After more than 8 hours of trying to fix this issue by trying everything I could find on this forum and every possible solution my imagination could think of, I'm left no other choice than asking the community for help.
When ever I put a large amount of files on the storage card (around 3Gb) and use the TF3D interface to play the music, Audiomanger_eng.exe crashes (sometime other files crash but I forgot the names).
Now, I have tried pretty much everything:
1. I tried both WMP 11 to transfer the files and the direct copy/paste of the files to the storage card.
2. I tried putting another set of songs coming from a different PC
3. I tried having all the songs together in the same folder (that caused even more issues as album arts were overlapping) and I tried the WMP function to get each songs in its correct subfolder (ie: artist... Album...).
4. I tried deleting the database file of the AudioManager (which causes it to rescan all the files which it does but then crashes as it tries to play certain songs)
5. I tried on two different Diamonds, using 1.93 in English (HK), 1.93 in French, TOM_DiamondProject_v3.2, Dutty's latest rom. Through this I tried the original HARD SPL of HTC and also Olinex and another guy's one. (All the test I did using these various ROM created approximatively the same error though varied slightly from one ROM to the other)
6. I have also tried a million soft reset and hard resets.
7. I have tried loading the music in Windows Media Player Mobile which works perfectly but does not change anything to the problem I have with the TF3D player.
8. Following stevedpl7's comment, I went in the file explorer, created a new folder called My Music, then I cut and paste all the music from Storage/Music to Storage/My Music, went to the application data/HTC/AudioManager_eng/ and deleted the database file: AudioManager_Eng.vol, then I did a soft reset. When I now go to the music Tab, it crashes before I even get a chance to play a song. In the music list, I can see all the transferred files.
9. And many other small things....
Any idea or suggestions?
Just a quick question about where you are putting the music files?
I have exactly the same problem if i save my music foldes to Internal Storage\Music (which is where WMP saves them by default)
However when i created a 'My Music' folder in the Internal Storage\My Documents All worked fine. So Try....
Internal Storage\My Documents\My Music\''your music here''
As i said you may well have to create the 'My Music' folder, on my Diamond only My Pictures and My Videos were there by default.
Hope this helps.
I have the same problem, the only thing I can put it down to is the new 1.93 ROM from HTC, as it was working fine until I flashed the phone with this ROM.
I have tried the solutions above and it still isn't working, so if anybody else has further ideas please let me know, if not I'll wait for the official word back from HTC and post their solutions up here also.
Sadly, it didn't work either for me
Thanks you Stevedpl7 for the info, sadly I have tried and the problem even got worse
I went in the file explorer, created a new folder called My Music, then I cut and paste all the music from Storage/Music to Storage/My Music, went to the application data/HTC/AudioManager_eng/ and deleted the database file: AudioManager_Eng.vol, then I did a soft reset.
When I now go to the music Tab, it crashes before I even get a chance to play a song. I the music list, I can see all the transfered files.
Are those files made from scratch on your or the customer's PC, or were they downloaded from the Internet? I know that some downloaded MP3s are defective, furthermore some players do not understand all variations of the MP3-format like VBR, joint stereo et al. There is no strict "standard" for MP3, the technology has developed over the years and no one has made an attempt to define "levels" as they did with MPG-2 or with DivX. So there is always a level of uncertainty whether a player is able to play all files. A resampling with a MP3-software or even converting them from MP3 to WMA might help.
It's always a good idea to use WMP on the PC to create MP3 or WMA. Not because it excels in quality, but because it uses very standard features in the format.
Have fun!
Lost_in_translation said:
Are those files made from scratch on your or the customer's PC, or were they downloaded from the Internet? I know that some downloaded MP3s are defective, furthermore some players do not understand all variations of the MP3-format like VBR, joint stereo et al. There is no strict "standard" for MP3, the technology has developed over the years and no one has made an attempt to define "levels" as they did with MPG-2 or with DivX. So there is always a level of uncertainty whether a player is able to play all files. A resampling with a MP3-software or even converting them from MP3 to WMA might help.
It's always a good idea to use WMP on the PC to create MP3 or WMA. Not because it excels in quality, but because it uses very standard features in the format.
Have fun!
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They are mainly downloaded MP3s and a few WMAs. When I transfer the files using WMP, some are converted. The thing is that all these files work fine in Windows Media Player on the Phone.
I just realised that there is a possibility that if your MP3's has the album artwork embedded into the files. the audio manager would crash.
currently i'm doing a trial and error of it and have yet to fully test everything out just yet.
would anyone like to comment or verify if the embedded artwork might be the cause of crashes?
I think you are right. I have tried putting one song with the artwork embeded and it crashes the software!!!
erm. and yet. i did manage to sneak in one album with an embedded artwork. :\
but that was 1. i tried it with another album with the embedded artwork and had a crash.
I'm now thinking about giving up and installing TF3D config tool to hide the music tab and then install the old audio manager to play the music
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407145&highlight=audiomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
This is painful...
just spent 3 hours trying to figure out which mp3's work and which doesnt.
like wth... i dont get it. someone please assist in explaining how audio manager works ?
Same problem here, anyone knows how to solve this?
Note even the original demo tunes work
Audiomanager worked fine before (1.37 ROM), but when I updated to 1.93.413.3 SVE not even the "built in" demo tunes work. It just hangs on the first tune... Removing the .vol file does not solve the problem. Windows Media player can play the tunes without problems.
Use MP3Tag to mass delete all coveralbum info from your MP3 files on the PC side and then resync everything back using WMP. This solved all freezing problems with the TF Audio Manager for me. MP3Tag can be found here: http://www.mp3tag.de/
coredump said:
Use MP3Tag to mass delete all coveralbum info from your MP3 files on the PC side and then resync everything back using WMP. This solved all freezing problems with the TF Audio Manager for me. MP3Tag can be found here: http://www.mp3tag.de/
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Confirmed that this method does work
Works but people embed album art coz they want it to show up in the AudioManager in the first place. Now the only way to do is, is to extract the album art, rename it to folder.jpg and put it in the song's album folder. This is a really huge hassle especially if u've got tons of files embedded with album art....
Did you find a solution in the end ?
This issue is not tolerable for such a ppc... .
So if I happen to copy too many albums or mp3 files, my phone would crash and won't be the music ?
cornwall said:
Did you find a solution in the end ?
This issue is not tolerable for such a ppc... .
So if I happen to copy too many albums or mp3 files, my phone would crash and won't be the music ?
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U have to remove your embedded album art from your mp3 first before transferring, and then extract that album art and put it in the same folder as the mp3 with the name folder.jpg. A huge hassle for people who have a huge collection of mp3s with embedded artwork.
Anyways, I've written to HTC Tech Support about this and "strongly suggested" to them a ROM update for this issue.
Audio Manager crash with mp3 in VBR mode ! I've converted my mp3 in CBR mode, and all went ok !
Is there a better solution to this than removing the embedded artwork?

ahhhh music libary

Hi all,
got something that's driving me crazy, i can sync my music with windows media player fine and the music copies across as it should however when i come to play the music with touchflo 3d it only shows the first lot of music i put on.
I cannot seem to figure out how to refresh the libray on touchflo 3d...
does anyone have the answer for me?
thanks
If you tap 'Library', then slide accross to Albums... do your recently synced items show up there?
I am having this problem too
I cannot see any of my music in TF3D music player
no nothing is showing up i resynced all my music with media player and still nothing shows, it nows says no music found.
there must be a better way to sort the library.
there shouldnt be this hassle just to put music on the phone!
I think you require too much for a phone so cheap.
Try the advantage,or wait for HD.
htcenrico said:
I think you require too much for a phone so cheap.
Try the advantage,or wait for HD.
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i want your job if you consider this to be (a phone so cheap)
you get paid too much.
on the plus side to the normally challenged people out there , you have to update the library in windows media player, then go into library on touchflo 3D, select all songs and play the first track it then updates all the tracks for you.
waz000000 said:
you have to update the library in windows media player, then go into library on touchflo 3D, select all songs and play the first track it then updates all the tracks for you.
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thannks man, this has been driving me crazy - talk about a flaw in the system!
Will
Delete Application Data/HTC/AudioManager/AudioManager_Eng.vol and do soft reset.
this will rescann your complete library.
i got the same problem and this helped
I still cannot get it to work - all my music syncs of from media player and I can play it on media player on the diamond but on TF3D it just hangs on Searching!!!
If i delete all my media and load 1 song it works fine if I do the above deleting of the HTC application folder but if I then try to add some more it does not work!!
Has anyone got this working? or is it just me?????
nicko666 said:
I still cannot get it to work - all my music syncs of from media player and I can play it on media player on the diamond but on TF3D it just hangs on Searching!!!
If i delete all my media and load 1 song it works fine if I do the above deleting of the HTC application folder but if I then try to add some more it does not work!!
Has anyone got this working? or is it just me?????
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prob just you lol, works for me try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397819&highlight=tf3d+music+albums
just add the music to internal storage yourself? :S works fine for me
nope didn't work...must be just me!!
I have moved to S2P but its a shame i wanted to use the built in stuff
I had the same problems too. Until I read and followed the instructions for adding songs and album art and updating the library on TF3D.
Now for the enchilada!! Does anyone know how you can update windows media's library (once you have added more songs to the Diamond from PC) and set it to search in a particular folder instead of adding all the media files on the phone(tomtom files, alert & warning sounds and the like) to your music library. Only solution thus far more is to delete these files every time i update, which is now getting a bit tiring .
Any help or suggestions welcomed.

Xperia Media Panel

I read that the Xperia Media panel will search my entire memory card for music. Problem is, I have Starcraft and other things installed, and Starcraft alone has like 900 audio files. Is there anyway I can keep the panel from adding certain files?
I was hoping to avoid installing those things directly to my phone.
Thanks,
Kurazz
I don't know of such way to skip folders from being scanned. And the worst thing is, that I can't go through MP3 folders, but should rely on id3 tags and playlists. And many times my mp3s just don't have tags, or it's VA folder, so I need to create playlists for every folder of music, that is not with one artist/album.
For me it was annoying looking at my images.
Now I live without Starcraft on my phone. Interested for a solution as well.
But I think there is no hope...I even have trouble with folders I don't want Windows Media Player to scan...and thats a desktop computer program
Eventually, if I can't find a solution, I'll just install Starcraft directly to my phone (It just will take up most my remaining space). I'm sure there is some sort of tweak you can do though.

[Q] Music Playlist...Froyo, Apex 5.3

Hi guys......I've been using Apex 5.3 and I've noticed something......You make a playlist in your favorite music player and then reboot the phone, after the reboot and the media scanner, you check the playlist and there are no songs in the playlist!!..............I've notted that it just happens in Android 2.2 Froyo, when i was whit a GB ROM It didn't happen...... I would like to know if there is any way to avoid this!.....It's annoying making the same playlist a lot of times!!! I would appreciate you to Help Me
And....sorry for my bad English ...........If you don't understand my words tell me please I'm just learning and i'm from Mexico!! Greetings
I have similar issue with mixzing. Playlists are lost after flashing roms. Any suggestion on how to preserve my playlists
mansared said:
I have similar issue with mixzing. Playlists are lost after flashing roms. Any suggestion on how to preserve my playlists
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Your playlist are usually saved on your sd card as a little file. You could back it up and re-open it after flashing a new ROM.
Might be different with different player tho, I haven't tested it. Just my though on it as I don't use playlist
Do you know where I can find this file???
caddi234 said:
Do you know where I can find this file???
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Usually would be in a folder created by your music player (with the name of your music player). Although, like I mentionned, I don't use playlist so I'm not sure where they would be placed
I'm going to go ahead and mention this now:
This is an issue relating to the media scanner. It is not specific to any one application, phone, or ROM. I've done a ton of searching on Google for an answer, and it is obviously not restricted and seems to come from the media scanner. Winamp, Songbird, PowerAMP, Instinctiv, Android Music, etc... all seem to have this problem.
As far as I know, there is no fix. Your best bet is to get an app that will let you sync playlists from your computer, and sync regularly. If you use an app that saves playlists as .m3u, you can create a new folder called .NoMedia, and media scanner will ignore it, and thus, not try to update it. If your app does not create playlist files, your playlists are stored in a database file and you're really out of luck.
Please, if anyone knows of a fix, please help!
rmikulus said:
I'm going to go ahead and mention this now:
This is an issue relating to the media scanner. It is not specific to any one application, phone, or ROM. I've done a ton of searching on Google for an answer, and it is obviously not restricted and seems to come from the media scanner. Winamp, Songbird, PowerAMP, Instinctiv, Android Music, etc... all seem to have this problem.
As far as I know, there is no fix. Your best bet is to get an app that will let you sync playlists from your computer, and sync regularly. If you use an app that saves playlists as .m3u, you can create a new folder called .NoMedia, and media scanner will ignore it, and thus, not try to update it. If your app does not create playlist files, your playlists are stored in a database file and you're really out of luck.
Please, if anyone knows of a fix, please help!
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The only solution I've found is FLASHING A GINGERBREAD ROM...I haven't had problems about this in Gingerbread........But I think they are still a little unstables!! :S
I'm having the same problem with FroYo and PowerAmp on my Captivate but the problem only occurs when I unmount and re-mount the SD cards and then the media scanner runs. If I reboot on the phone normally the scanner leaves the playlists in tact.
If you're using PowerAmp there's actually a 2 different settings that fix this, under Advanced Folder options: No System Scan For Folders, and Create /MusicFolders. For the first one you just select which folders you want to exclude from the scanner, for the latter it creates said folder (on both SD cards) and then you need to move your music to the MusicFolders folder(s). I suppose the former is easier if you have your music spread out over both SD cards or just don't feel like moving your music underneath another subfolder. The trade-off to this is that you lose use of the System Library and can only use Folder Playlists.
I used the Create /MusicFolders option, moved all my mp3s under it, created a couple of playlists with a few songs each. Unmounted/re-mounted the SD cards and also rebooted the phone and let the media scanner run both times and the Folder Playlists were untouched. Hopefully there's a fix eventually but for now, I can live with cumbersome functionality of using only folders since I only use playlists and very rarely shuffle all the songs on my phone. Not having to spend a half hour recreating playlists is more than worth the tradeoff.

Media list reset?

Hi,
Tried googling about my really ANNOYING problem. My Music app or Winamp no matter which one since they all use the same Media "List" from android gets totally messed up.
Ie, if I want to go see Albums, It makes a "Album" in the list of each song in the Album. So if I want to listen to a Album I choose a Album from the List but It just contains One(1) song which is in that Album.
I cleared data for Music and Winamp and used Dev Tools Media scanner with no luck. Any tips?
I would try removing all the music on your SD card and recopying it. (If you have a card reader I would use that because it will be much faster then via usb)

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