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Hi,
I've successfully re-mapped the PTT button by following the instructions from this forum. I imagine the same procedure would apply to the small OK button immediately below the jog-wheel, but I don't know where to start. Of course, the button is not present in the Settings/Buttons applet - that would have been too easy.
First, how to disassociate it from its present function (Start Menu/OK)? And once disassociated, what is the button code to enter in the registry?
I tried aebplus, and it sort of works - but the start menu still comes up on the first keypress if invoked in the Today screen.
Any ideas on how to re-map this otherwise useless key?
Thanks,
Mike.
mpd said:
Hi,
I've successfully re-mapped the PTT button by following the instructions from this forum. I imagine the same procedure would apply to the small OK button immediately below the jog-wheel, but I don't know where to start. Of course, the button is not present in the Settings/Buttons applet - that would have been too easy.
First, how to disassociate it from its present function (Start Menu/OK)? And once disassociated, what is the button code to enter in the registry?
I tried aebplus, and it sort of works - but the start menu still comes up on the first keypress if invoked in the Today screen.
Any ideas on how to re-map this otherwise useless key?
Thanks,
Mike.
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yes, i would like to find this out as well because i have PTT assigned to comm manager and voice recorder but now i need one toggle between vibe and ring...would be nice to use this ok button i thing its pretty useless since there is anothe ok button on the front...TIA...
me too!
I also need to change the side "ok" button. Anybody have a solution?
Hello! Care if I do a quick search FOR YOU since you do not want to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274644
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
You sound like a jerk for posting that I did not search when the reply prior to mine was 6 months ago.
Did you even read the thread? None of the links you posted had instructions/advice on how to remap the side "ok" button.
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Hello! Care if I do a quick search FOR YOU since you do not want to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274644
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
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yes i was about to say. non of them have steps or even telling you anything related to how to get it.
all it says is people trying it matter and they failed.
if there was no solutiion you should have just said no solution, it would have saved you time searching all that and also us bashing you
the 4th link does have some good information, lemme just quote from it
Bellfazar said:
The side "ok" button is a tough one because it has multiple functions. In programs, explorer windows, and settings it acts as an OK button but when you're at the today screen it acts as a Start Menu button. I kinda get the feeling we're not going to be able to change this for a while. Not until someone releases a keymapper specifically for the Kaiser.
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strikeIII said:
even with the 8525 nobody has been able to re-map the ok button...it's still the biggest mystery, hehe....but now that they eliminated one button on the Tilt we really do need the ability to remap the ok button now...
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Deathace said:
I have the side OK button remapped in spb pocket plus v4 under the buttons menu in settings and the only thing you have to do is take focus off the start menu then it works as expected.
Russ
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It's really easy with help of AE Button Plus.
You can pretty much map any hardware key on your device with this great app.
I have it setup to be able to copy and paste by using the sliding keyboard and pressing Window Key + C to copy and Window Key + V to paste among other cool shortcuts.
Cheers!
RayanMX
Rayan said:
It's really easy with help of AE Button Plus.
You can pretty much map any hardware key on your device with this great app.
I have it setup to be able to copy and paste by using the sliding keyboard and pressing Window Key + C to copy and Window Key + V to paste among other cool shortcuts.
Cheers!
RayanMX
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Thanks Rayan. I downloaded the AE Button Plus program for my AT&T Tilt, and it is working fantastic for remapping buttons. I was able to remap the side OK button to lock my phone by holding it for a few seconds. I love the way it also lets you leave the button with its default setting for one press, but create other actions for multiple presses.
By the way, the phone locking works fantastic. It allows me to answer calls, but doesn't activate any of the other phone functions until I unlock the phone. That's perfect for carrying the phone in my pocket. Also, incoming notifications don't unlock the phone, so that I won't accidentally turn-on a bunch of applications while the phone is in my pocket. The unlocking action is very simple.
I've also mapped volume up and down to a long press of the soft keys. That alleviates the need to use the stylus to select the volume button. Great.
The AE Button Plus program was what I've needed all along to customize my phone. It would've saved me a lot of time.
One other note, I downloaded the 2.6.3 version of the program, rather than the freeware version, but I haven't gotten any info on the cost. I may be disappointed in the near future if this program automatically deactivates. Do you know if I should expect a disappointment? I would pay for this program, but I'm not sure how much it's worth to me, but I saw no information on the cost. Do you know?
AFAIK there is only one version, if you want the registered version you buy a license and there's a procedure to activate it, otherwise it uses the free version with a couple features disabled and a nagscreen once in a while.
PocketCM is good, but I'm looking for something better. Even though PocketCM doesn't require a stylus, I'm still having a horrible time typing with it.
What I'm looking for is a thumb-friendly, on-screen keyboard that'll take advantage of predictive text to allow larger buttons. Something like the Blackberry Pearl keyboard (1 or 2 letters per key), or even the traditional phone pad (with 3-4 letter per key) would be enough.
Anyone have a suggestion?
cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find
Johnston411 said:
cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find
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Thanks! Searching now.
Here's the link to Cootek Touchpal, its the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334437
Did you spell it right? A search revealed nothing...
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Got link, thanks!
Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?
Flapjack said:
Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?
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hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.
gadgetluva said:
hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about it:
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.
It's not for one thumb but Spb Full Screen keyboard is the best I've used. I actully don't use the Kaiser keyboard and type 3 times faster with Spb. Also try Tengo its a one thumb kb with big keys.
Touchpal is nice ive used it before.. Im still waiting for PocketCM to release a newer versions as i had some issues with the current version..
As for another one, I flashed my Tilt to the AKU cooked rom thats floating around the forums and there is actually a SIP that is a phone pad that supports T9 input and I find it very handy and works well for one handed operations!
Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.
try to go to the htc asia website and download the official phone pad from HTC! I really find it useful!!
where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?
gimini said:
where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?
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Here;
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/htm...Page=searchResults&id=prod5702026&sf=48190044
thank you. you guys are always so fast to help
If you buy the PRO version you can do that
This is the website:
http://www.cootek.com/index.html
srmz said:
Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.
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What about Resco Keyboard ?
Flapjack said:
Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.
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yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!
Well, now that I've been using it for a while, I have several big problems. I don't know who to blame (M$ or Cootek), but here they are:
1) The program will only work if I use it in conjunction with sipchange. Once I do that, I cannot select any other keyboard. They come up in the choice list, but if I select them, nothing happens. So I'm stuck with it. If I'm using the stylus, I prefer the standard windows keyboard, which is why this is an issue
2) The program does not go down and stay down. Unlike the standard windows keyboard, TouchPal is always popping up in your face. It drives me nuts, as I only seem to actually need it 1/4 of the time it decides to pop up. It seems to take 2-3 times minimizing it for it to finally stay down... and when it does, it can pop up again for absolutely no reason.
3) It may be the most the most intuitive keyboard, but it's still not very "finger-friendly". I don't consider myself to have unusually large hands, but I still cannot reliably hit the right key every time, even when I'm careful. Another thing it will do is detect a capital letter (diagonal motion) when I very clearly touched it without a swipe. Not sure why this is...
I'm still in search of something better....
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yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!
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gabriel31337 said:
What about Resco Keyboard ?
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I'm curious about the same thing. I love the Fx mode that the Resco keyboards offer.
http://www.mobiion.com/magikblite.html
I am using this, I have to say it is much much better when using the hard keys. No need to press Shift or Control anymore! Like typing on the Treo...
It was a chore setting up the key mapping, but it works perfectly afterwards.
Let me know if anyone want the key map to Att Tilt.
I have been looking for the key mapping forever for this app
please post the keymap for the ATT Tilt for the MagiKB 1.1 program. I came from a Treo 750 to a Tilt and it was the one program that I missed using (did NOT wanna set up all the mapping - wasn't quite sure how). Thanx
Looks nice really.
great program - please post the mapping
+1 post the mapping!!!
Att Tilt Keymap
Well, here is the key maps.
Please note, I am using a ATT TILT, with OEM ROM, without the Cingular addons, but if yours is not a TILT, then you might need a corresponding key map set up if the hardkeys are different from the TILT.
Also, I set up the key mapping so that only the keys with LETTERS will be used (when holding down, or double clicking). That means, for the symbol "," and "." and "$" you will still have to press the Fn key.
I can always change the mapping to whatever suits you, or you can do it yourself....
Install MagiKB first, then move this .lay file to your My Documents\MagiKB Lite folder. Then you can select the key map from MagiKB program.
thanks a lot - a great help
Could you please re-post the tilt keymap download link. Other link doesn't seem to be working. Thanks for the hard work on it.
EDIT: Sorry, got it. Thanks again.
you mentioned there's a difference between the Tilt? Would there be a difference to stock Kaiser then?
I have an ATT Tilt, so I don't know if the keyboard layout is exactly the same as an Unbranded Kaiser (I don't have a unbranded kaiser to look at).
If the keyboard layout is the same, then the key map should work.
Nevermind. It works.
Does anyone know how to capture the key for the left arrow/comma on the tilt? I would like to map it to the comma, but it's not in this key map file.
Adding additional key mapping to MagiKB ?
alc630 said:
. . . I set up the key mapping so that only the keys with LETTERS will be used (when holding down, or double clicking). That means, for the symbol "," and "." and "$" you will still have to press the Fn key.
I can always change the mapping to whatever suits you, or you can do it yourself. . .
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Solved/ignore; Can you explain how to map the directional arrow keys and their Fn counterparts? I like the way MagiKB simplifies capitalization and the Number Pad especially, but would like the WIN key mapped to "CTRL" - makes copy, cut and paste much easier.
alc630 said:
Well, here is the key maps.
Please note, I am using a ATT TILT, with OEM ROM, without the Cingular addons, but if yours is not a TILT, then you might need a corresponding key map set up if the hardkeys are different from the TILT.
Also, I set up the key mapping so that only the keys with LETTERS will be used (when holding down, or double clicking). That means, for the symbol "," and "." and "$" you will still have to press the Fn key.
I can always change the mapping to whatever suits you, or you can do it yourself....
Install MagiKB first, then move this .lay file to your My Documents\MagiKB Lite folder. Then you can select the key map from MagiKB program.
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OMG, this has got to be the best tip ever!
Entering items such as the "?" were always the one thing I hated about the keyboard (I came from a Treo 750). Now thanks to you I LOVE the keyboard
Thank you very much!
Thanks again!!
No problem, I came from a Treo 650, so the Tilt's keyboard bothered me too. This makes the transition to a Tilt so much smoother.
About the key maps, I am currently away from the country and unable to play with the keymaps, but I will be back home in 2 weeks.
I might get a chance to play with it here, in which case I'll post an update.
Sorry!
Anyone tried Magikb with WM 6.1? Installs, looks fine, but none of the commands work. Am I missing something?
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Anyone tried Magikb with WM 6.1? Installs, looks fine, but none of the commands work. Am I missing something?
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Works with no problem on my HTC Kaiser (Dutty's WM 6.1 Final)
cutoffcirc said:
Anyone tried Magikb with WM 6.1? Installs, looks fine, but none of the commands work. Am I missing something?
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After installation, select a proper key map from menu or edit the current key map.
Hi:
I was using this layout and program and LOVED it. The only problem is that after upgrading to WM6.1 (official ATT), The layout will no longer appear, when I go to select a layout.
Any suggestions?
Thanks so much!!
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Hi:
I was using this layout and program and LOVED it. The only problem is that after upgrading to WM6.1 (official ATT), The layout will no longer appear, when I go to select a layout.
Any suggestions?
Thanks so much!!
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Yeah because the layout was stored in My Documents\MagiKB Lite in phone memory by upgrading to wm6.1 you deleted that folder with the layout in it.
Download the layout again and put it to the above-mentioned folder.
Hi, I'm still relatively new to using the diamond... (approx 2 weeks...)
This is my first WinMo phone also so I'm just trying to get use to it. My question is, does anyone find very little use for the Center Button on the Diamond? Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that around the button is a senstivity for autofocus and zooming, etc. But other then taking a shot with the phone I rarely use that middle button. Am I doing something wrong or if possible can someone tell me what else the center button can do because I'm still finding doing things on the Diamond a little bit slower... Thanks.
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Hi, I'm still relatively new to using the diamond... (approx 2 weeks...)
This is my first WinMo phone also so I'm just trying to get use to it. My question is, does anyone find very little use for the Center Button on the Diamond? Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that around the button is a senstivity for autofocus and zooming, etc. But other then taking a shot with the phone I rarely use that middle button. Am I doing something wrong or if possible can someone tell me what else the center button can do because I'm still finding doing things on the Diamond a little bit slower... Thanks.
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If you press and hold on a file for example you get the basic editing options such as paste, copy, delete, rename etc...
There are many other uses but I have to get back to work!! Im sure more members are gonna guide you.
Luck!
I mostly use it for zooming in and out while browsing.
it can be enabled to do scrolling for almost any app - search the forum and you will surely find it...
The centre button is essentially an 'action' button. If you notice that immediately north/south/east/west of it (on the ridged circle) there are softkeys you can press down to navigate and highlight whatever is on screen, depending on the context of what you are using (TF3D, file explorer, browser, etc) much like using the arrow keys on a standard pc. The centre button can then be used to 'select' the highlighted item much like tapping the stylus on it (or hold the button down like holding the stylus to get the context menu etc etc) this makes it easy to select things in a narrow list if you dont want to use the stylus and have fat fingers
Hope this goes some way to hint at what you can use it for!
It's good to get used to some hardware keys, this center button and navigating with 'arrow keys'.
It gets you more speedy and productive, using touchscreen is not ALWAYS the best, it's quite inaccurate (since I don't push always exact at the right spot). So on those moment it's very helpful to become familiar with the HW keys
edit: Oups, i'm not on the good topic ! Sorry
If a moderator can remove this post ...
actually i use the hardware buttons a lot, just cause i like the way they feel when i press them. i know, sounds weird, but hey, they do a hell of a job for me.
I downloaded a hex editor and a rom and loaded the rom onto the hex editor.
But that kind of stuff is far above me.
I'm trying to edit the keyboard mapping, i need to switch some keys around.
I have the tilt, i would really like someone experienced to help me with this because my keyboard is basically useless right now, and ill have to buy a new phone if i cant fix it.
is there not a cab file to change from the tilt to the keyboard mapping you require?
The answer is...(drum roll please)..YES!
use the forum search option for "tilt keyboard fix" and you will be pleasantly surprised.
plz remember that unlike your girlfriend search will always be there for you. ;-)
chrisrc1985 said:
The answer is...(drum roll please)..YES!
use the forum search option for "tilt keyboard fix" and you will be pleasantly surprised.
plz remember that unlike your girlfriend search will always be there for you. ;-)
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lol i know theres that fix i just wasnt sure if it was tilt to kaiser one he required lol
no its not the keyboard fix i know about that. My issue is unique, i need to remap some of my letters. I'm fairly certain the issue involves modifiying a rom, it doesn't matter which, and to do this i would have to use a hex editor.
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no its not the keyboard fix i know about that. My issue is unique, i need to remap some of my letters. I'm fairly certain the issue involves modifiying a rom, it doesn't matter which, and to do this i would have to use a hex editor.
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what keys do you need to remap and maybe someone will know a fix.
ok my k,n, i m, and period keys are unresponsive. this is a hardware issue, ill explain further if u want. this makes the keyboard quite useless without these keys functioning.
I never use my arrow keys so I would like to map each faulty letter key (K,n,i,n,.) to a corresponding arrow, and maybe the "ok" or "tab" button.
basically when i press left arrow, the letter p would pop up...etc
i would be truly gratified if u guys helped me fix this, because ill get a cheap unbreakable phone if the tilt wont fully work. Its been really frustrating,
how old is your kaiser?
do you have a warranty on it still?
could be easier to have it replaced.
well thats where i mentioned i could go into depth further. I cracked my screen, and replaced it myself. In the process I accidently nicked the side of the ribbon wire connecting the keyboard to the main unit. This resulted in those 5 keys becoming unresponsive.
I got the phone about 6 months ago, but the warranty was voided when i took the phone apart to replace the screen.
AE Button Mapper use google..... "Not AE Button Plus"
ok i downloaded it and got it installed but i have no clue how to use it.
theres some buttons to reassign keys however u have to press the key you want to reassign and that it not possible being that those keys are disconnected.
ok little update, i think the AEK program will work, however the first step is it has to create a chart by logging all the keys. You have to press all the keys individually and it logs them with a four digit number. For example pressing the letter "d" logs key 0044. Once all the keys are logged you can type them up in a text document and mix and match accordingly.
My obstacle is that i cannot press my keys that are unresponsive, for them to be logged. I tried to find a pattern by pressing keys around these and saw nothing that made any sense.
I'm not sure if the numerical values attached are standard for every application in the phone, or specific to the AEK program. I can't find a thread, that would list the value for those letters i can't press.
Does anyone know if there is a chart with all the values assigned to each key of the tilt?
Snowman, give me a link to this AEK program and I'll use it to log all my keys on my tilt, then perhaps we can compare them to what you have and hopefully get the missing codes for you
Moved to General.
Hex Editing a ROM file won't get what you need. I've seen people trying to patch the keyboard driver for this, but no success. Sorry, couldn't be more help .
Dave
thankyouthankyou
its
http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.php
the download link is in the top right hand corner
i downloaded the full version
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ok my k,n, i m, and period keys are unresponsive. this is a hardware issue, ill explain further if u want. this makes the keyboard quite useless without these keys functioning.
I never use my arrow keys so I would like to map each faulty letter key (K,n,i,n,.) to a corresponding arrow, and maybe the "ok" or "tab" button.
basically when i press left arrow, the letter p would pop up...etc
i would be truly gratified if u guys helped me fix this, because ill get a cheap unbreakable phone if the tilt wont fully work. Its been really frustrating,
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ok (keyboard) = 0875
tab = ? (wont let my use tab)
k = 004B
n = 004E
i = 0049
, = 00BC (keep in mind this is pressed by pushing the FN button and arrow left)
. = 00BE
start menu (keyboard) = 085B