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Hi,
I can't GPS signal no matter what I try. I didn't change any default settings in External GPS.
I've installed TomTom and Google maps but neither application is seeing GPS device. In TomTom I get no valid GPS signal and in Google Maps I get not able to initialise the GPS. I've tried using both of the appications with clear view of the sky and left the phone for about 30mins to try and find the satelites.
Any ideas?
I'm thinking I'm having a faulty device but I don't want to replace it just in case I get the new one with SOD problem.
Thanks for any help.
Dt11
at the moment i got the same problem! I can't get it running. The yellow LED is on but there is now signal! Pls help us...
(PS: GpsViewer does not work)
Geko
Try Autodetect of GPS ports maybe the settings were accidentally changed
darkilici said:
Try Autodetect of GPS ports maybe the settings were accidentally changed
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From Com1 to Com11 open failed or None
hmmm
Did you change something on the "External GPS" setting?
If yes, then I think you need to hard-reset.
gogol said:
Did you change something on the "External GPS" setting?
If yes, then I think you need to hard-reset.
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I thought your going to ask this Yes I did once...
Hmm ok i save all my things and then lets try...
Grrr. Why is Htc is not able to get this work without hard resest?
Geko
Yeah, HTC should improve that one.
The hard-reset thing is described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235
ok thx now it does work....
So dt11 you have to do the same otherwise it wont work...
Geko
Stupid question, but hard reset = soft reset but holding down the 2 soft keys as well yar?
There was a discussion of this in some previous threads, based on which I installed the GPS Viewer and after activating GPS with that (com 4, 4800 baud) Google maps worked very well. No need for a hard, rest, please search the previous topics in GPS and Kaiser
[COM4 / 4800 baud] are the default settings aren't they? I think i've tried those before :S
michalopoulosgk said:
There was a discussion of this in some previous threads, based on which I installed the GPS Viewer and after activating GPS with that (com 4, 4800 baud) Google maps worked very well. No need for a hard, rest, please search the previous topics in GPS and Kaiser
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hmm this solution didn't work on my Kaiser...
Geko
Question:
Does someone have the "GPSmeter Professional Edition" running?
If i do install this app and run, it's over with the built in GPS so
don't install this app i always got problem with this one...
Can someone else confirm?
Geko
i couldnt get google maps or windows live to work without first running gpsviewer but when my new copy of tomtom navigator 6 (the trial didnt come with my phone) i did a clear storage which takes the phone back to its factory settings and then tomtom work super fast and very accurate in all kinds of weather without having to install a "jumpstart" software.
the way the GPS seems to work is you need a app that will start the GPS for you hence why most HTC bought Kaisers come with tomtom once you start tomtom hit the ok button and then start google maps or Live maps and GPS will work. there also is an app called GPSViewer i believe that will also start the GPS for you. I dont think anyone has gotten Google maps to start the GPS by itself?
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I dont think anyone has gotten Google maps to start the GPS by itself?
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Some people have reported that they have but I always seem to need to give it a boost. I use GpsViewer and that always seems to get Google Maps started okay.
Cheers.
All working now. I had to do a hard reset.
It has been said so many times but it won't hurt to repeat it:
WARNING: Don't touch any settings in "External GPS"!!! Otherwise your GPS will not work and you will have you hard reset you phone!
FWIW, I did not have to jump start my GPS in my 8925 with the default ATT ROM. Once I replaced it with the HTC ROM, I now have to jump start it. So it appears whatever the problem is, it's fixable via software.
I screwed my Kaiser gps by trying to use map4pda which automatically changed the port in settings for gps. What can I do? Gps not working anymore,even after putting back the old settings and doing softresets,even took out the battery for a while
Not a single program can find my inbuilt gps now
I do not want to do a hard reset,I have tooo many progs and no backup
Please help
I am afraid to use any other gps program(even after a hard reset) because this could ruin my gps settings
I read somewhere that gps applet is misconfigured(from factory)..and even a slight modification to it,could lead to my gps not functioning till a hard-reset.
Also it's not normal that a program can modify the gps'settings by itself
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
Lidberg said:
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
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Thank you for the info..
Are you sure this is the only gps program that messes up the gps?
Did you test Igo,GpsTuner,GpsGate,Pathaway professional,GeoScout??
But Gloposis,BeeLine gps??
Any other incompatibilities?
Thx
I haven't tested all of those. Here's what I have on my phone right now:
FFF (finger friendly friends)
Google Maps
Live Search
GPS test
GPS Utilities
GPS viewer
GPSinfo
Navigator II
TomTom 6
TrackMe
Virtual Earth
VisualGPSce
I think the other ones will be safe. Map4PDA is the only one I've heard of that kills the Kaiser GPS.
A hard reset is your only option and shouldnt be a nightmare.
Work out what apps you want, check you have the cabs etc, sync your device with your pc and away you go.
I keep all my favourite apps cabs on my storage card so that I could hard reset even if away from my laptop (but I do have an exchange server so setting up sync remotely is also easy).
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
emariu said:
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
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I too noticed that using different GPS software tends to screw up something on my Tilt. I've used Google Maps and MS Live Search and these tend to screw things up to the point that the GPS is useless. I also have Copilot Live 7 installed and this program has the ability to reset the GPS on my device.
For those not familiar with Copilot, when you go to the Settings panel in Copilot and choose Reset GPS, it asks you to enter a city within 100 miles of your current location in order to reset your GPS properly. If someone could develop an app to replicate this... This would be a great standalone app for all Tilt & variant owners.
But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
what about a backup? make a backup before you install an app that you don't know if it works or not, install/run app, if all is good, no worries. if all is bad, restore from backup.
the Tilt ROM comes with sprite backup and htc backup is flating around this forum...
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But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
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Not sure how this works, but I've been able to get my GPS working again every time with this feature.
If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
In the external GPS settings programs tab set to 4800, in the hardware tab gps hardware port select none, baud rate should be at 4800. In te access tab tick manage gps automatically.
Load the TomTom app that comes with the Kaiser or download it from here. go to config on the gps settings within TomTom and it will right itself
Make a backup of the registry and put is back in this situations, easy and fast when you try different programs.
Btw Igo works fine also Nusa maps (Indonesia), Map King pro and Papa Go..
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If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
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That's not true in every circumstance. Like the OP, I installed Map4PDA. When you run the program, it searches for the GPS (you can't specify what COM port to use manually) and in my case, hangs on COM3 for whatever reason. I let it sit for over an hour and ended up doing a soft reset because the program was unresponsive.
After that, my GPS would not work in ANY program that it worked in previously. I checked and double-checked my settings to no avail. I posted here and on MoDaCo and got some good advice but in the end, only a hard reset fixed it. Yes, the GPS light would blink but my Tilt would run very, very slowly and would never get a fix. That QuickGPS program would error out every time I ran it. I don't know what Map4PDA did, but it hosed my GPS and it looks like the OP got bit too.
Since my last hard reset, I have installed tons of GPS enabled programs and they all work just fine. I also have never run QuickGPS and I can get a fix within 10 seconds in any program.
I know it's not logical, but that is what worked for me.
EDIT: I don't advocate the spreading of paid for s/w, but I would be curious to see if your CoPilot program would successfully reset the OP's GPS.
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
emariu said:
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
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COM4, 4800 baud
this com 4 is a program port,it's not the harware gps (native) port..
can we find out which port number is the default(hardware)?
But thnks anyway for the answers
COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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I use GpsGate anyway,so using multiple gps programs at once isn't a problem for me,BUT because I cannot use hardware port, we are stucked with 4800 baudrate,which is a limitation only with soft multiplexer(built in the OS)
gd evening all,
I need your help:
2 days ago, i was using my gps with 2 differents softwares (MioMap + BeelineGPS) i use for months , gps worked flawlessly as usual.
Then I decided to try a new soft and have installed: Google Navigator.
Google Navigator was freezing for a few seconds each time i touched a menu or anything, so i closed the program.
Since then, my GPS receiver isn't working anymore. NO program could find the gps anymore.
I suspected correctly Google Navigator messing up with the parameters of the GPS receiver (Start Menu > Settings > System > External GPS).
Indeed, GPS Program port was changed to 'none', and hardware gps to COM4 (gps access IS checked still to "Manage GPS automatically").
By memory, i remember that GPS program port should be COM4 abd Hardware gps port to none. (just the opposite of the settings i had). So i put the settings back as it.
Now :
-BeelineGPS seem to be able to "see" the gps. However, it sees NO satellites (nomally it sees some satellite and then try to calculate the first fix... but here... it doesn't see any sattellite, so can't even start calculating a fix!).
-Miomap freeze at startup now (complete freeze) , probably because of this gps issue.
-and last but not least : GPS light on the kaiser is RED (was it always red ??? i don't think so.) It s the red light at the most right of the lights row that is blinking red when launching any gps program.
Is there any other setting somewhere that this Google navigator could have messed up with ?? (a registry maybe ??) (I ve uninstalled Google Navigator , problem is still there)
Any help PLEASE, thank you, and happy new year all.
UP
I need ur help.
Can anybody tell me AT LEAST if my settings are correct for the 3 tabs of "external gps" ?
Just writing down the solution for other people who might have this problem in the future (can avoid a hard reset!)
Apparently Google Navigator changed also the registry "InterfaceType" :
I had
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice]
"InterfaceType"="COMM"
changed it now to
"InterfaceType"="POLL"
And here it works immediately !! got a fix in 15 seconds.
that simple
Thanks for posting the solution to your problem.
I will admit that I have not tried too many bits of software yet on the GPS port, but if all else failed then I would be tempted to do a hard reset and not install the problem bit of software again.
Next time someone has this issue they can search the threads and find this one and get it sorted
Pat yourself on the back for getting it right
I Have a similar problem with Google Navigator.
Just like you, everything was working fine until i installed Google navigator and my GPS doesnt work at all.
I read your post and noticed however that you had slightly different changes than i have.
My "InterfaceType"="POLL" stayed the same didnt change and i still cant get the GPS to work.
Please help!!
OK I finally got my GPS working. I searched and searched and realised that Like you, the registries were changed by Google Navigator.
I went through all off them and found two that were off and changed them.
DO NOT INSTALL GOOGLE NAVIGATOR.
Other than changing your registry values, it it slow as hell, nealry freezes your phone and its completly useless.
STAY AWAY
kaemon said:
Just writing down the solution for other people who might have this problem in the future (can avoid a hard reset!)
Apparently Google Navigator changed also the registry "InterfaceType" :
I had
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice]
"InterfaceType"="COMM"
changed it now to
"InterfaceType"="POLL"
And here it works immediately !! got a fix in 15 seconds.
that simple
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this tip was a lifesaver for me! thanks bro!!
i dont know which software messed up my registry settings (maybe gpsid tool floating around the net, or maybe one of the gps nav software i installed - mapking, mgmaps, google maps - BUT after changing the registry value back to POLL, everything works (including quickgps, which was refusing to accept any xtra.bin file)
THANKS ONCE AGAIN!
vinitwins said:
this tip was a lifesaver for me! thanks bro!!
i dont know which software messed up my registry settings (maybe gpsid tool floating around the net, or maybe one of the gps nav software i installed - mapking, mgmaps, google maps - BUT after changing the registry value back to POLL, everything works (including quickgps, which was refusing to accept any xtra.bin file)
THANKS ONCE AGAIN!
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Did you, by chance, ever use Map4PDA? I had posted awhile back about Map4PDA killing the GPS in my Tilt. Twice, even. I advised anyone and everyone never to use that program until it is updated. I'm wondering if that program made the same reg change because after I used Map4PDA, I could not get my GPS working until I hard reset. Many other people had the same issue as me.
I have similar problems with Google Navigator and it was not changing my registry settings... So if anybody knows the solution please wrote down it here.
Lidberg said:
Did you, by chance, ever use Map4PDA? I had posted awhile back about Map4PDA killing the GPS in my Tilt. Twice, even. I advised anyone and everyone never to use that program until it is updated. I'm wondering if that program made the same reg change because after I used Map4PDA, I could not get my GPS working until I hard reset. Many other people had the same issue as me.
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no i havent tried map4pda - i think the culprit in my case was either MAPKING or an older version of GPSID (i'm using a tytn2 with wm6 and that has its own control panel app for assigning virtual com ports to the inbuilt gps)
in any case, that simple registry change saved me from a hard reset!
bluemamba said:
OK I finally got my GPS working. I searched and searched and realised that Like you, the registries were changed by Google Navigator.
I went through all off them and found two that were off and changed them.
DO NOT INSTALL GOOGLE NAVIGATOR.
Other than changing your registry values, it it slow as hell, nealry freezes your phone and its completly useless.
STAY AWAY
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Can you tell which were the two modified registries modified to "off", how you identified them and what was the changes you applied instead "off"?
Thanks.
I purchased a tilt about 2 weeks ago and have been using the gps fine with navadi htc gps tool, ms live search, and google maps. In fact im on a trip in san diego today and i was using the gps earlier today with google maps. I was lost for a while and i couldnt get the gps to work google maps wouldnt lock onto a sattelite, next i went into the windows settings and it wouldnt save anything under the hardware tab. After searching the net and not getting anywhere i decided to run clear storage to reset the tilt. I reset it and now google maps says it cant find a gps device at all. So i installed and ran the htc gps tool. When the device is set to communicate on com 4 htc gps tool says open com port failed. When i change the windows options and htc tool options to communicate on com 3, htc gps tool gives me no errors but also doesnt report any data being recieved. Im really hoping the gps isnt broke i didnt do anything to the phone physically to damage the gps but i have been running the phone at 57600 baud instead of 4800. If anyone has any experince with this gps unit or has had this problem i would appreciate any help. Also if its agreed this is just a phone problem is there usually a warantee or should i use the at and t insurance i bought whats the best rout here im not sure if i saved the phones recipt.
learn to use the enter button on your keyboard...and try turning agps off
i just checked agps it is off
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
EnableAGPS=0
is there anything else i could try. Like i said i did clear the storage so everything should be back to default settings.
problem solved
boorishid said:
problem solved
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What did you do?
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What did you do?
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Instead of just saying "problem solved", how about letting the rest of us know what happened....sorry rant over
acually im not quite sure what i did. I just set everything back to defualt in the gps settings com 4 at 4800 baud and the gps tool was able to communicate with the gps again.
Im just not quite sure what i did, i mean orginally it wasnt working with the default settings .
Also ive been having a real hard time getting gps locks lately i find myself having to use gps tool to constantly clear the gps memory, then i have to reopen it and preform a hot start. I never had to do tat befhore this problem. I have regular quick gps updates too. When i open gps tool it just tells me mode 2 fix not available. This happens after using google maps 2 or 3 times.
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acually im not quite sure what i did. I just set everything back to defualt in the gps settings com 4 at 4800 baud and the gps tool was able to communicate with the gps again.
Im just not quite sure what i did, i mean orginally it wasnt working with the default settings .
Also ive been having a real hard time getting gps locks lately i find myself having to use gps tool to constantly clear the gps memory, then i have to reopen it and preform a hot start. I never had to do tat befhore this problem. I have regular quick gps updates too. When i open gps tool it just tells me mode 2 fix not available. This happens after using google maps 2 or 3 times.
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Have you been playing with the "External GPS" application? That's known to cause serious problems with the GPS, even requiring a hard reset (although I saw work being done to restore some registry settings to default to avoid needing the hard reset)
I dont think so im not even sure what the external gps application is. I use a tilt so i dont have all the cool htc stuff ive downloaded and installed google maps, ms live search, quickgps, and the navadi htc gps tool. I did a hard reset and am still having trouble locking the gps in with out using gps and clearing the gps.
Strange part is i was on a trip and google maps was working fine all day and for weeks before the trip. All the sudden it just stoped getting a lock. Didnt drop the phone change any software settings or anything.
you most likely didnt have to do a hard reset...to get a good gps lock you need to download satelite information through QuickGps every 6 days but i do it everytime i use my gps through live search to get a god satelite fix everytime. and with the externa gps settings i set it to any port usually com 0 and never mess with the software tab , only hardware...the baud rates too you dont need to mess with that, just choose a com, quickgps download and soft reset u should always get a fix...if thir are still problems search for gps tweaks
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you most likely didnt have to do a hard reset...to get a good gps lock you need to download satelite information through QuickGps every 6 days but i do it everytime i use my gps through live search to get a god satelite fix everytime. and with the externa gps settings i set it to any port usually com 0 and never mess with the software tab , only hardware...the baud rates too you dont need to mess with that, just choose a com, quickgps download and soft reset u should always get a fix...if thir are still problems search for gps tweaks
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....or don't touch the application at all and use com4?
I installed iGO8 and now all my GPS, Garmin, Google maps dont work..
It just gets stuck at waiting for GPS signal...
What's wrong? It was a clear blue sky out door when I checked this too..
Mmm sounds familiar. I upgraded my X1 firmware to the stock R3A rom (last weekend) and had this trouble with iGO8.3 (or TechrificWay which is the local Australian version) after re-installing all my apps. Had the same problems with Google Maps. Thought the GPS was crook. I was just about to do a hard reset and re-install but decided to try my old Copilot Live 7 software and everything worked fine. So un-installed iGO8.3 and re-installed and everything worked fine. If I think about it I might have un-installed iGO8 before I installed CPL7, not sure. Anyway everything has worked fine since.
Perhaps worth a try?
Same problem here on my fuze.
I had to wait many mins nearly 30mins to get the signal and if lil miss, again 30mins.
I'm using garmin and not sure about others. I tried many radio versions but still same.
BTW; sorry for posting in wrong device section but I found a nice thread here which could help.
Best Regards
I actually have 2 GPS on my sd card atm, could this be the problem?
I don't think so, unless both aren't running in background.
Checkout in FdcSoft Taskmgr if there are.....
Best Regards
Im gonna try uninstall everything, delete darmin off of sd card, and renstall igo. will post back
ok, so i uninstalled everything and was only left with google maps. no igo or garmin. so i tried too use google maps with gps, and even google maps coudnt even work. it said it cant find the gps receiver.. how can i turn it back on? could it be my reg setting, i make gprs disconnect after 2 mins?
Ive tried using manual com using baud rate 4800 and all kinds of combinations.
It would say "intializing GPS..." then it would come up with no GPS receiver found.. whats wrong??
Ive tried using manual com using baud rate 4800 and all kinds of combinations.
It would say "intializing GPS..." then it would come up with no GPS receiver found.. whats wrong??
I had a problem a few weeks ago when I couldn't get GPS to work (in Google Maps and CoPilot Live 8).
It turns out that my QuickGPS data has expired (somehow it got set to manual download). Updating the data and setting QuickGPS to update automatically made everything work normally.
In Advanced Config Tool, there is an option to turn on aGPS. I have mine set to "ON" even though I don't know if this has any effect on the X1.
Yep, Ive already turned on everything A-GPS, GPRS all settings on, tried google maps, everything again.. Nothing seems to work and it keeps coming up with No GPS receiver found although I checked if my GPS builtin is actually defective by running GPSGate2 and testing my builtin GPS. GPS said it reads ok.. so what is the problem.. its really annoying.. it ruined my anniversary 6month with my gf
^^^ You still didn't mention running QuickGPS...?
Yeah, done that too. Countless times...