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Just came across this while bowsing the pocket GPS site. Anyone tried it, looks like a good alternative to TT7 and would be less hasle installing the maps.
http://www.alk.eu.com/diamond/
I'm already running Copilot 7 on my Diamond. I don't think this version is any different but I could be wrong. Installation of the standard version was easy anyway.
I purchased the Diamond version of CoPilot 7 from Handango. It installed quickly & easily. It's VGA & uses the scroll wheel to zoom in & out.
I haven't fully tested it yet but first use on foot lagged. I have messed a bit since so hopefully it will be better.
The gps picked up pretty quickly and accurately so happy there.
Copilot 7
hello,
Can you test it in your car ? and report if it lag like Tomtom navigator 7 or not.
tanks in advance.
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Lag? I've not noticed any lag and having used TT for several years now I'd likely be quite sensitive to any delays..
Mathew
I've been using the 7-day trial version of CoPilot7 on my Compact IV, and I have to say, the route planning seems to be WAAAAY better than TomTom5 on my MDA Pro! Not to mention that it seems you get traffic info on the CoPilot. Apparently, T-Mobile customers can upgrade to the full license for £50 all inc. Alternatively, for those that have a Diamond but not on T-Mobile, they might consider downloading it from Handango for just under £56:
http://www.handango.co.uk/PlatformP...pe=2§ionId=0&siteId=172&txtSearch=copilot
For the price difference, I'm wondering whether I'd be better off paying the extra £6-odd and getting it from Handango - that way, if I do load a cooked ROM, I've still got the full software for CoPilot?
F1Mad said:
For the price difference, I'm wondering whether I'd be better off paying the extra £6-odd and getting it from Handango - that way, if I do load a cooked ROM, I've still got the full software for CoPilot?
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It may be an idea to pay the extra. I have flashed a new ROM 3 times in the past week so it's been useful having the files at hand. The CoPilot software auto installs when the Diamond boots up again which is very useful. I keep the files on the root of the internal storage as it recommends.
I don't know if it's the same for the normal version of CoPilot 7 but as I said the Diamond version is VGA and uses the scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the map.
I have been busy at work recently and haven't really thought about testing the software properly but I have some free time soon so will check it out more. In particular I want to check it when walking as alot have complained about the GPS on the Diamond when walking.
I've used quite a number of GPS navigation programs, Tom Tom 7, Co Pilot 7, NavMan, Garmin and I can say personal experience with Australian Maps is Tom Tom routes the best for me. I've had Co-pilot do a huge loop around a destination when there was a straight road to the place or choose really interesting routes.
Trem said:
It may be an idea to pay the extra. I have flashed a new ROM 3 times in the past week so it's been useful having the files at hand. The CoPilot software auto installs when the Diamond boots up again which is very useful. I keep the files on the root of the internal storage as it recommends.
I don't know if it's the same for the normal version of CoPilot 7 but as I said the Diamond version is VGA and uses the scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the map.
I have been busy at work recently and haven't really thought about testing the software properly but I have some free time soon so will check it out more. In particular I want to check it when walking as alot have complained about the GPS on the Diamond when walking.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
Darrenives said:
Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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Normal version also installs on Internal Storage if you want it to. I had tried the normal version before and I'm now setting up the Diamond edition. If I spot any changes I'll report
F1Mad said:
I've been using the 7-day trial version of CoPilot7 on my Compact IV
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May I ask where you got this from? I've searched high-and-low as I'm keen to try it out before parting with my cash...
(of course, posting this means I'll find it in the next few minutes...)
Mathew
mkhattab said:
Normal version also installs on Internal Storage if you want it to. I had tried the normal version before and I'm now setting up the Diamond edition. If I spot any changes I'll report
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So, its been about a week, found anything?
I'm also very intersted in this.
BTW, the 7-day trial is only officially available with T-Mobile. I have asked ALK if there is a demo version of the Diamond edtion, but there isn't.
The other thing that puts me off is that for the combined price of the TD and CoPilot (with Euro maps) I could get a nice standalone sat nav solution. However, I have bene told by ALK support that if I buy the Diamond edition of CoPilot and then change my phone, I will need to re-purchase CoPilot. I don't know how true this is, but two different ALK support guys have now told me the same. However they did also say that the standard version would run perfectly happily on a Diamond.
It would be nice to confirm whether or not the Diamond edition does have other benefits over the standard, apart from the ease of installation. If not then I can't see any reason to buy the Diamond version.
Darrenives said:
Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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The normal version is not VGA, if you look closely at the splash screen and the graphics you will notice a slight pixellation of the images/graphics. This is because the regular WinMo version is designed for QVGA or lower.
But the maps do not pixellate because I assume they are vector graphics (or some equivalent).
I have the normal Copilot 7 and can confirm that all the veatures mentioned for the Dimond version appear to work the same for the normal version.
I installed by using the Copilot Central to install the program, then I just copied the folders off of my SD card to the internal storage.
Some instruction for copying the SD card can be found here:
http://support.alk.eu.com/cgi-bin/alk.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=649&p_created=1194449850
Digsy said:
I'm also very intersted in this.
BTW, the 7-day trial is only officially available with T-Mobile. I have asked ALK if there is a demo version of the Diamond edtion, but there isn't.
The other thing that puts me off is that for the combined price of the TD and CoPilot (with Euro maps) I could get a nice standalone sat nav solution. However, I have bene told by ALK support that if I buy the Diamond edition of CoPilot and then change my phone, I will need to re-purchase CoPilot. I don't know how true this is, but two different ALK support guys have now told me the same. However they did also say that the standard version would run perfectly happily on a Diamond.
It would be nice to confirm whether or not the Diamond edition does have other benefits over the standard, apart from the ease of installation. If not then I can't see any reason to buy the Diamond version.
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I think that like for TT7 the maps are registered to a code that is valid for the device it is being used on....change your device then there is a code bust and you cannot use the maps.....hence the need to get the maps again
.....not sure if/how you can transfer your maps from one device to another (when you upgrade)
What is the best satnav software to have on HTC Diamond? I noticed that my Compaq IV has Co Pilot pre-installed (trial version), but I've always been using TomTom on my Vario II. I've noticed a lot of people tend to be installing on TomTom on the Diamond.
I spent about 5 hours yesterday trying to install TomTom v7 with GB maps but was not able to get the maps to show. I also checked several different walkthroughs how to install TomTom 7 to no avail.
So if anybody can help me on how I can get TomTom or if CoPilot is also recommended, how I can get this working fully?
where did you download tomtom7?
download again or try with other maps
I tried several different location each with their own walkthrough and it seems like it always works for others but theres always the few who just can't get the damn thing to work. I'm normally ok with stuff like this, i've got tomtom on my HTC tytn but now I have the Htc Diamond (compact iv) I would of liked to install version 7 of tomtom with working GB maps, with a straightish walkthrough of how to do this. Any help m8 or a pointer in the right direction would be appreciated.
tt6
I use tomtom 6 that was on my last phone (western Europe maps)
Installed np ..It works fine.. and its now much quicker to pick up satelites..
Guys, I need help in getting tomtom 7 on my htc diamond, i've followed the walkthroughs to do with how to get my tomtom id, thats sweet. but it's this bloody meta file, I can't seem to locate it with RunMeforAllAutomatic or RunMeforDCT, which I understand is meant to locate the meta file. I think i'm at the last hurdle to get tomtom 7 to see TTN_7.450.9028 which I hope is the maps for GB.
Any help would be greatly appreciate so I don't have to go into my second night of 3 hrs sleep
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1) Install TomTom Navigator 7 with the TTN_7.450.9028.cab provided
2) Copy the folders RASTER and VOICES to the root of the storage card
3) Copy the folder of your map (e.g. Western_and_Central_Europe_V720_1803, not included in this package) to the root of the starage card
4) Start TomTom and look up your DEVICE ID from TomTom, which can be found in the file ttnavigator.bif on the starage card under DeviceUniqueID
5) Copy the file *.meta from your map folder and put it in the folder where you saved the downloaded files (I recommend C:\TTN7 for an easy use)
6) Open a command prompt on your pc and navigate to this folder
7) Execute the command
tt7_keygen.exe “path to the *.meta” “XXXXX-XXXXX”
where XXXXX-XXXXX will be your Device ID found before
Example:
tt7_keygen.exe “C:\TTN7” “XXXXX-XXXXX”
If everything succeeds, the patcher should return an "OK" message.
8) Now copy the new file *.meta.dct from this folder to the folder of your map on the storage card
9) Open TTN7
10) Enjoy!!!!
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THIS IS NOT A ****ING WAREZ FORUM!!!!
I tried TomTom6, TT7, iGo, iGo8 & Navigon.
TT is stupid.
iGo8 is nice & fast but has absolute wrong speed infos, whyever.
MN6.5 is still the best choice for Europe.
sony007 said:
Guys, I need help in getting tomtom 7 on my htc diamond, i've followed the walkthroughs to do with how to get my tomtom id, thats sweet. but it's this bloody meta file, I can't seem to locate it with RunMeforAllAutomatic or RunMeforDCT, which I understand is meant to locate the meta file. I think i'm at the last hurdle to get tomtom 7 to see TTN_7.450.9028 which I hope is the maps for GB.
Any help would be greatly appreciate so I don't have to go into my second night of 3 hrs sleep
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hi there ,
In a most respectfull way I will tell you this .. I have purchased tomtom for mobile and it works great on the diamond ... The problems you describe are due to copy protection .. If you insist on using priated cracked or keygened softwares , that is tottaly your choice and to be honest there are many valid reasons for using it .. however this fourm is particulary strict on not talking about things such as that .. so due to the forum rules you will have to go elsewhere for this kind of help ... I will however say that a quick search in the torrents will definatly help you .. I have had personal experince with the more reputable providers out there and can say it definatly matters where you get your info from .. if you get a build with the instructions Wilsas has already provided and it has the required exe keygen .. and you follow exactly what it says .. you will have no issues
if you do require further help , two options .. buy it , as anyone who gets good value out of anything should ... or if you are just testing it for usablity , you can install one free map upon install on your tomtom .. .. .. if you need the UK maps working .. well im me and we can take it off line
i am using destinator 7 on diamond without any problem!
Consider "Garmin Mobile XT" as an alternative for the Diamond. Alas, due to the lack of an sd slot, you will need a keymaker even if you own it legally, but imho Garmins software makes most of the other options out there look like jokes.
//Svein
TT7
I just got the Western Europe map installed and it is just excellent.
My XDA Diamond is double worth its value due to TT7 being pre-installed...
No problems whatsoever... just fun...
Finally got tomtom sorted on the htc diamond, but is it just me or does it not look as good as the previous version (which I have on my vario 2) ? On the diamond tomtom looks a bit cramped up with all the info at the bottom when your driving, on the vario it's very clear. Not moaning about it as I do like the fact the new version tell you what road your currently on. Now all I have to do is work out how to transfer my favorites should be fun NT
Hi,
The T-Mobile MDA Compact IV comes with Copilot preinstalled.
I want to play with some of the custom roms, is there anyway I can back up/reinstall the copilot if I install one of these roms, as I've bought it, but it doesn't appear to come with installation media.
Or can I just use a standard copilot install and put my key in?
Cheers.
radioimp said:
Hi,
The T-Mobile MDA Compact IV comes with Copilot preinstalled.
I want to play with some of the custom roms, is there anyway I can back up/reinstall the copilot if I install one of these roms, as I've bought it, but it doesn't appear to come with installation media.
Or can I just use a standard copilot install and put my key in?
Cheers.
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Hi, I found that my Co-Pilot trial was installed to the 'internal storage' and remained when I switched Roms. I guess you could copy the stored files just in case.
Good luck
JSM
I am sorry if this has been answered before, but I have tried to search for an answer to this but not found any.
I've attempted to install TOMTOM 5 on my Diamond with no success and any help would be much appreciated.
I have the disc and the path is D:\disc1\tomtom-navigator-5-Benelux\setup. When I run the install, the dreaded message 'TomTom Setup Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience' is displayed.
I copied the whole disc1 folder to the internal storage on my diamond but all the files were read only. Where am I going wrong??!!??
If you want to install tomtom at your phone then you need a .cab file just do a search at this forum and you will find one the only thing is that its a tomtom 7. and I don't believe it will run the maps of tomtom 5 but whit a good search in Google or somewhere else you maid find aswell the right maps.
Willem
Thanks, but what ,cab file? What is a .cab file?
A .cab file is used to install applications on Windows Mobile devices. Only TomTom 7 or later will work with the Diamond as no earlier versions worked with the inbuilt GPS receiver.
poedgirl said:
A .cab file is used to install applications on Windows Mobile devices. Only TomTom 7 or later will work with the Diamond as no earlier versions worked with the inbuilt GPS receiver.
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Before I used TT7.9 I had TT6.30 running on my MDA IV, getting a fix was horrible thought, but after that TT6.30 worked just fine...
poedgirl said:
A .cab file is used to install applications on Windows Mobile devices. Only TomTom 7 or later will work with the Diamond as no earlier versions worked with the inbuilt GPS receiver.
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Is that the reason I can't get the maps to work on the Diamond I picked up on Friday
Strange as the TT version I have, 5.1, worked great on the internal one on the SPVm700 I just moved away from.
My issue is how to get TT to read the maps. Once I've installed the cab files on the device I can't get them to read the maps on the internal storage. If I try and install the cab files on the internal I can't get TT to fire.
Really don't know where to go next - and dn't want to go back to teh m700 when traveling.
Ta muchly
i think its the location on where you're maps should be placed. On my diamond, the map files are located on the ROOT of the internal storage. Thats the only way it seems for it to be found. So it should be place in : Mobile Device\Internal Storage.
*searched - said my strings were too small and I just can't seem to find the right ones...
Hi I already have a 8gb microSD ive been using with music n such and did not want to buy a turnbyturn GPS software that makes me purchase another card - is there such a program that is decent out there?
thx
tomtom is very nice. You dont "need"a specific card to run it.
TomTom
Garmin Mobile XT
iGo8 <- Best one ever!
are those free???
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are those free???
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Neither TT nor Garmin are free. TT no longer supports phones and I think Garmin is tied to the card they sell you. iGuidance is now going to be tied to a card.
I have TT 6, two years old, running as well as iG 4, one year old.
Kraize said:
TomTom
Garmin Mobile XT
iGo8 <- Best one ever!
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iGO8 is brilliant, however mine crashes, does anyone have any idea how to rectify this. I have TIR v10 rom
Kraize said:
TomTom
Garmin Mobile XT
iGo8 <- Best one ever!
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u sure you can put those on your own sd card?
Copilot. (sold by alk). Definitely doesn't tie you to a card (and you can transfer between devices)
Try the forums at pocketgpsworld.com for further advice (they have a whole section dedicated to software for PDAs).
I second iGo8. I've never had it crash on me.
Hmmm.
iGo8 was replaced with OCN8 and is very very stable.... aside from my TP dropping GPS every once in a while.
I run Destinator on my own 8GB SD-card.
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iGO8 is brilliant, however mine crashes, does anyone have any idea how to rectify this. I have TIR v10 rom
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What actions are you performing when it crashes on you? what version are you using? How does your sys.txt look like? I've attached mine..backup your sys.txt and copy mine over to the sd card and to window/programs/igo8 folder in the main memory of your phone...it's a basic .txt file, enabling popup street names, scrolling street names, enables phone poi dial, etc, etc...
hope it helps...also, try using it with this skin (create a 'skin' folder under storage card/igo8/content) and place file into it...open up igo8 program and select the skin, and restart...I like it because it uses the whole screen and is very customizable.
regards.
EDIT: This skin is only usable for igo8.3.x....
Just driving along using it and it will just reset.
Thank you very much for your help and files. I will give it a go.
Just driving? How much free mem does that ROM give you? I'm using the super awesome latest NATF ROM...I love that man...it's a wonder how he manages to work, raise a family, attend Philly games and still pull things like this out.