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Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
jgermuga said:
Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
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Amen, thought I was the only one who noticed this!
Yes, surprising isn't it. Even a using a search on all forums didn't turn up this same question. I think this is true for Wondows Media Player on all devices, or at least the one's I have owned. Would be nice is HTC could provide a shuffle option that actually shuffles with the Audio Manager. Perhaps they should call it "Reorder" instead of "Shuffle".
Just searched and this is the only thread I could find on this problem.
My media player doesn't actually play the library in folder order, but seems to shuffling only a few songs on the list.
Is playing them from the library the only option? - you can play only one song at a time when accessing the music folder with windows explorer.
to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
Thanks for the suggestion - yes I've tried that, but it just seems so hit and miss with the Windows media player and the shuffle play seems to repeat a few tracks too often.
I've now installed MortPlayer and it's working great, so I'm not going to bother with the WM player now.
Thanks.
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to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
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Yes, this is my half baked solution. I just scroll down and start a few songs later in the list as it is sorted via the playlist. It still does not "shuffle" though, just puts me at a different point in the (properly termed...) reordered playlist. If it's a short playlist though, you will figure out pretty quickly that the songs go in the same order every time, you just started at a different point.
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
sarce39 said:
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
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I hear what you saying regarding computers not being good at random, but I can tell you that this MortPlayer is doing a damn fine job of it.
I think that these workarounds with the playlist are a poor reflection on WM media player - I have about 1.5G in my music folder and MortPlayer can shuffle the lot without the need to first create a playlist.
I didn't say that you need to create a playlist. On the contrary, more the numbers of songs is high, more the order in which you will hear its is changing, because the probability of finding the song "m" on a sample "M" diminishes when you increase "M" ( "M " can be a playlist or 1.5 GB of songs)
Hi all,
got something that's driving me crazy, i can sync my music with windows media player fine and the music copies across as it should however when i come to play the music with touchflo 3d it only shows the first lot of music i put on.
I cannot seem to figure out how to refresh the libray on touchflo 3d...
does anyone have the answer for me?
thanks
If you tap 'Library', then slide accross to Albums... do your recently synced items show up there?
I am having this problem too
I cannot see any of my music in TF3D music player
no nothing is showing up i resynced all my music with media player and still nothing shows, it nows says no music found.
there must be a better way to sort the library.
there shouldnt be this hassle just to put music on the phone!
I think you require too much for a phone so cheap.
Try the advantage,or wait for HD.
htcenrico said:
I think you require too much for a phone so cheap.
Try the advantage,or wait for HD.
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i want your job if you consider this to be (a phone so cheap)
you get paid too much.
on the plus side to the normally challenged people out there , you have to update the library in windows media player, then go into library on touchflo 3D, select all songs and play the first track it then updates all the tracks for you.
waz000000 said:
you have to update the library in windows media player, then go into library on touchflo 3D, select all songs and play the first track it then updates all the tracks for you.
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thannks man, this has been driving me crazy - talk about a flaw in the system!
Will
Delete Application Data/HTC/AudioManager/AudioManager_Eng.vol and do soft reset.
this will rescann your complete library.
i got the same problem and this helped
I still cannot get it to work - all my music syncs of from media player and I can play it on media player on the diamond but on TF3D it just hangs on Searching!!!
If i delete all my media and load 1 song it works fine if I do the above deleting of the HTC application folder but if I then try to add some more it does not work!!
Has anyone got this working? or is it just me?????
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I still cannot get it to work - all my music syncs of from media player and I can play it on media player on the diamond but on TF3D it just hangs on Searching!!!
If i delete all my media and load 1 song it works fine if I do the above deleting of the HTC application folder but if I then try to add some more it does not work!!
Has anyone got this working? or is it just me?????
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prob just you lol, works for me try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397819&highlight=tf3d+music+albums
just add the music to internal storage yourself? :S works fine for me
nope didn't work...must be just me!!
I have moved to S2P but its a shame i wanted to use the built in stuff
I had the same problems too. Until I read and followed the instructions for adding songs and album art and updating the library on TF3D.
Now for the enchilada!! Does anyone know how you can update windows media's library (once you have added more songs to the Diamond from PC) and set it to search in a particular folder instead of adding all the media files on the phone(tomtom files, alert & warning sounds and the like) to your music library. Only solution thus far more is to delete these files every time i update, which is now getting a bit tiring .
Any help or suggestions welcomed.
I have converted from an iPhone to the HTC Fuze. I still have some audio files that are .mp4. I am interesting in playing audio more than video. Can I get the stock player to play these?
If not, what is the best player to download (for free) for playing audio .mp4 files?
Thanks
If they are DRMed, you'll have to search on how to un-DRM them (I wouldn't ask about that here though). If they are not DRMed, you can play them in Windows Media Player.
I know about the DRM thing, but last time I checked, Windows Media does not play mp4. Am I wrong?
With regard to audio files from iTunes (m4a/AAC/mp4 or whatever you want to call them), they will play just fine via the music player interface in Touch Flo 3d. The only problem I've encountered is that for some reason the audio manager will not sort songs in track order. As yet I have not found a fix for this (and no one else seems to be asking about it either). Still, at least I didn't have to convert my iTunes library into MP3 files ; )
Purchased tracks will not play (in fact they will not even be visible).
Digital Rights Management (DRM) is a coding/decoding algorithm mainly used by iTunes to protect the artist and to ensure that the artist gets money for his work since you as a consumer ay have purchased a song or album online. All your own CD's which you may have read-in (ripped) through iTunes will play without any problems.
DRM files, though they appear as MP4 files, cannot be played without the appropriate decoder (iTunes for example).
Ways and methods HOW to bypass this mechanism MUST NOT be discussed here in the forum, do a google research if you interested in.
BTW same issues may happen if you go from iPhone to iPhone or transfer files from PC to PC even if you backed up your iTunes license.
You may bear an Apple store a visit or call Apples cust. support they can provide you with a special key that you do not have to purchase all your songs again.
Ouzo said:
The only problem I've encountered is that for some reason the audio manager will not sort songs in track order.
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Track sorting seems to be a general problem of the TF3D player. If you for example have an album which contains two CDs the TF3D player is not able to sort it correctly. It's stupidly sorting:
Track 1 CD1
Track 1 CD2
Track 2 CD1
Track 2 CD2
[...]
Therefore I'm using Pocket Player instead.
DeepThought said:
Track sorting seems to be a general problem of the TF3D player. If you for example have an album which contains two CDs the TF3D player is not able to sort it correctly. It's stupidly sorting:
Track 1 CD1
Track 1 CD2
Track 2 CD1
Track 2 CD2
[...]
Therefore I'm using Pocket Player instead.
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Is there a way to launch Pocket Player from TF3D in place of the in-unit player?? I have been searching for an answer for a week here and found not a clue. Any help with this would be appreciated, otherwise I will just launch from programs as I am now doing, but it seems a waste to have a nice tab wasted!
rac
rac said:
Is there a way to launch Pocket Player from TF3D in place of the in-unit player?? I have been searching for an answer for a week here and found not a clue. Any help with this would be appreciated, otherwise I will just launch from programs as I am now doing, but it seems a waste to have a nice tab wasted!
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No, I don't think so. Unfortunately the only think you can do is completely disabling the TF3D player by removing it with AdvancedConfig.
I wonder if it's possible to at least get the Audio Manager to play tracks according to file name. At least that way if tracks were numbered 01, 02 etc that would get around the problem of it not seeing the track number in the tag.
Trouble is I can't work out how to do this.... I've been rumaging in the registry under HKLM\software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng but there doesn't seem anything obvious to me. Maybe a key could be added? Anyone got any ideas?
How about mp4 video?
It took 20 minutes to load a video mp4 file onto my microsd card, but it's there. Windows Media Player won't recognize it. The video player app portion of the camera will actually play the file, but it takes several seconds to launch and is generally choppy after that. It's a shame, too, because the video quality is great ... it's just very choppy.
Is there Windows Mobile player out there somewhere that plays these mp4 files SMOOTHLY? I knew the Tilt had issues with the driver not playing video smoothly, but I didn't think it was a problem with the Fuze. Sure would like to watch some quality video in mp4 mode on my Fuze rather than my video ipod.
I love this forum, alot of smart people here (usually).
To talk of disabling software or this drm would be wrong. But Itunes itself posesses a way for you to back up your music. Its totally legit, and a common problem out there. (itunes not playing on winmo or other devices).
So if its a totally legit way of using the itunes program itself, to simply create a backup of your songs... why is it so horrible to discuss?
No one is suggesting hacking or disabling the drm, simply getting the music they paid for to work.
Guys, do you have that many problems with the Musictab too?
Playlists are very important for me, so I create playlists on my PC and tried to use them with the Musictab.
Musictab finds the Playlists, but is mess up the covers, it only shows one cover for all songs.
And sometimes the Musictab doesn't cognition them after I set new ones on the card.
Any experience?
The other thing is that videos are never floating. They always bucking the first seconds or when I jump to a nother scene.
Any experience here?
This problem was the reason why I will switch to the iphone, cause the media peformance is very imporant for me.
And it's still so callow on TouchFlo (WM devices).
For the video performance issue, just use Coreplayer Mobile. It manages to run atleast realtime on all videos I've thrown at it.
I wouldn't waste more time with HTC Audio. I spent months and months trying to get it to work without success. I now use Coreplayer for all media needs and it works extremely well. Cheaper than an iPhone as well with better user control of managing files IMO.
Edit: For playlists I recommend the standalone application PlaylistMgr - very simple and effective.
But the Coreplayer isn't fingerfriendly! Why does the HTC Video application work so bad?
Edit: For playlists I recommend the standalone application PlaylistMgr - very simple and effective.
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Wished I would know that before. I set my Phone on eBay know.
Do you or someone else use this program?
If you create playlists with it, it works perfectly on the musictab (HTC Audio Manager)? The songs in the playlist has got all their own covers an so one? I had a lot of problems with the covers, the musictab only used one for the whole playlist.
F-Styla said:
But the Coreplayer isn't fingerfriendly! What does the HTC Video application work so bad?
Wished I would know that before. I set my Phone on eBay know.
Do you or someone else use this program?
If you create playlists with it, it works perfectly on the musictab (HTC Audio Manager)? The songs in the playlist has got all their own covers an so one? I had a lot of problems with the covers, the musictab only used one for the whole playlist.
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I understand what you mean about swiping with fingers but I went through a lot of hassle because I wanted all that too and it was all a waste of time. Really the quality I am getting from CorePlayer surpasses any need for finger friendliness. CorePlayer is still very useable with fingers anyway using menus and I never use stylus.
PlaylistMgr has an option to save playlists in all formats including HTC Audiomanager format so yes you can create and then play in HTC Audio.
Regarding album covers/artwork I think the easiest way is to embed the art work on the computer using iTunes or similar. I do this and everything shows up in HTC Audiomanager and Coreplayer. I also spent a bit of time messing around with folder.jpg etc.. and sometimes it worked sometimes not. Album Art looks really good in Coreplayer.
I'm asking myselfe, why it' has to be that complicated to create a nice working playlist with a 600 EUR device.
Choosing a folder on the storage card and putting every song of if into a playlist, every song shown with the right albumart is possible on every walkman mobile mobile these days, but not on a 600 EUR Smartphone? That's absurd.
Yes coreplayer is maybe good, but I want a stylish fingerfriendly software for music, and the music tab ist stylish and fingerfriendly but it mess up in practice.
And videos should be playling floatly by stock too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
take this program for video encoding. it works super with htc album.
PhilXdaOrbit2 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
take this program for video encoding. it works super with htc album.
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I used it but the videos were still bucking.
F-Styla said:
I'm asking myselfe, why it' has to be that complicated to create a nice working playlist with a 600 EUR device.
Choosing a folder on the storage card and putting every song of if into a playlist, every song shown with the right albumart is possible on every walkman mobile mobile these days, but not on a 600 EUR Smartphone? That's absurd.
Yes coreplayer is maybe good, but I want a stylish fingerfriendly software for music, and the music tab ist stylish and fingerfriendly but it mess up in practice.
And videos should be playling floatly by stock too.
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I find Coreplayer looks better using the attached skin in case it helps.
I now have the phone for a couple of months now. I am now starting to listen to music on my phone but the problem I have, I can't get the music to play the next song which is in line. I play one song than it repeats over and over. Oh yeah I use the window media player and I'm trying put all the songs on a play list but I don't know how to get them there. Can somebody help me?
Can somebody just guide me as if I am a noob and don't know what I'm doing? Well actually I am a noob but please can somebody help me! Thank you
I would recommend getting a proper music player like "Pocket Player" or "Pocket Music". You can get free players as well. "Mortplayer" and "S2P" are great.
About WMP. Did you check:
wmp ---> menu ---> shuffe/repeat
Maybe you have clicked on repeat by accident?
where can I get the pocket player or pocket music from?
I tried the repeat and shuffle thing but even if I click the button that is suppose to play the next song doesn't play. I can click the previous button but it replays the song.
deotherhalf said:
where can I get the pocket player or pocket music from?
I tried the repeat and shuffle thing but even if I click the button that is suppose to play the next song doesn't play. I can click the previous button but it replays the song.
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http://tinyurl.com/yhr8jq6
http://tinyurl.com/yfkrnuk
Nitrogen is a good music player too.
The link you have provide. I downloaded it and transfered it to my phone and now its saying I can't in stall it. It says 'PocketPlayerSetup' is not a valid Pocket PC application.
You've probably downloaded the windows executable. If you want to use that then ensure you have your phone connected and Active Sync is started and execute the program from your windows PC. Otherwise look for the .cab file from the server and install that from the phone.
Interesting .. I've just yesterday looked for a decent player .. and I have found this:
Nitrogen player: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-nitrogen-player.html
It's rather simple, but it has all I need, like album art, and it can play folders (I hate making playlists), and it has nice finger controls. It can also play with screen off and HW buttons still active.
Intratech said:
Nitrogen is a good music player too.
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Dr.Sid said:
Interesting .. I've just yesterday looked for a decent player .. and I have found this:
Nitrogen player: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-nitrogen-player.html
It's rather simple, but it has all I need, like album art, and it can play folders (I hate making playlists), and it has nice finger controls. It can also play with screen off and HW buttons still active.
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Great find guys! Thumbs up.
that nitrogen player looks good im going to check it out
Cool. The nitrogen player is working great. Thanks
GS Player .
I had forgotten about it. Very useful despite its win 95/98 looks .
It has equalizer, effects, etc. and more options and tweaks than you can imagine.
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA032810/
Dr.Sid said:
Interesting .. I've just yesterday looked for a decent player .. and I have found this:
Nitrogen player: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-nitrogen-player.html
It's rather simple, but it has all I need, like album art, and it can play folders (I hate making playlists), and it has nice finger controls. It can also play with screen off and HW buttons still active.
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It'a really a gr8 player.Nice sound and volume higher than the default players - I have installed 6.1 v16 x1 rom by touch it.
Actually I have some problems with it. I mean one problem. Sometimes it clicks. It's like once per 5 minutes, but the playback is just not perfect. I had the same problem with CorePlayer, but there using higher thread priority solved it.
Nitrogen does not have such option, but the problem seems to be the same. If I change the priority for all 4 nitrogen threads in the task manager, it works fine.
Guess I will write to the author to provide that option.
If I'm not usung MediaPanel,
I admire LCGJukebox - simple look, skinnable,
all needed functions (Also EQ however I never use it...)
Absolutely gr8. And plays folders.