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Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
can anyone help?
How exactly would it be "free" internet? You are still going to need a data connection to access the proxy server.
it would be free because I would not be paying internet charges through my cellular provider using their wap server to access the internet, rather I would bundle the cost into my already home internet charges if I set up a home proxy and pointed my phone there.
It still would register as me making a call, but it would not register as me using the internet, hence 'free' internet.
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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if you redirect your proxy outside of AT&Ts MediaNET you will not get charged
OK, apparently you didn't read anything I typed. Let's look at it another way.
I have a Tilt. I can enable or disable AT&T's proxy server. Does it really matter? NO. Why? Because in both cases data is being transmitted over EDGE or HSDPA. It's bits and bytes traveling over the airwaves. Whether you are directly connected to the internet, using AT&T's proxy or your own proxy, it's all 1's and 0's to them. If they see those 1's and 0's being transmitted from your phone to the internet, you are getting charged for it.
If it was that easy to bypass AT&T's data plan, wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it? I know I would.
Prove me wrong.
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
mjhill said:
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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Good explanation
You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges. There used to be a great program over at MoDaCo called NoData which when you ran it showed you the connections you had and let you disable the ones you wanted to have off. Then you could use Wifi without starting a GPRS connection. The program still exists, do a search for it hear or google it at MoDaCo. Only thing, I seem to recall that the creator of the program said it was only for WM5. I've seen people say that it works in WM6 but haven't tried it myself.
Short of that you could just go into DataComm and tap on the Data connection icon, to turn if off as you tap WLan to turn it on. Of course that will disable your data connection and push e-mail and you'll have to remember to start it up again afterwards if you want to get your push e-mail.
jspetrino said:
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
I had a similar question, which got no replies....
T-mobile puts you through it's proxies, so that pictures etc are compressed, which is a bit pants. That's one reason why you might want to do as described in the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345029
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You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges.
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This simply isn't true. If you enable WiFi and you're passing traffic through GPRS, then you don't have your WiFi network configured correctly.
Go to Settings-Connections-WiFi and change the pull down for your adapter from "Work" to "The Internet. Associate with AP. Surf to your heart's content without using the cellular network.
You can shut off the phone connection if you like, but there's no need to do so.
Edit: Just for giggles, I fired up my WiFi configured as above and grabbed a 3MB file directly on the phone. GPRS Monitor recorded zero traffic increase.
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
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yes I used to be Verizon never go back to them again! I used to use a quick fix on one of my LG phones redirecting to a proxy and i got free internet that way.
I heard somewhere that ATT uses a special proxy server in order to charge you for data usage. And by changing that server to a free proxy server (kproxy, proxy ip?) you can get free unlimited data usage....
Is this possible or a bunch or crock?
No one ?
I used to work for the company for a number of years. Complete crock
Nooooooooooooooooooo...
complete crock, even if you turn the proxy off it still charges you for data... i dont run the proxy and still show over 800meg transfer a month
If I were ti funnel the interent over MEdia net, would that count as data?
yea that would still count as data if you gonna use the internet thorugh medianet
But my MMS goes through medianet and it doesnt charge me for that?
Anything and everything that uses GPRS, EDGE, UMTS or HSDPA is data and you will get charged for it one way or the other, whether it's SMS, MMS or raw data (i.e. PIE or checking email). Even if you have an unlimited SMS, MMS or data package and you aren't being charged separately for it, they are still logging it. Look at your phone bill and you will see it (I know AT&T logs every SMS, MMS and every byte of data).
The ONLY way to bypass that is to use WiFi, and that only works with data, not SMS and MMS.
So, in short, it's a crock.
But its not using any of those, its using 3G via the MEdia Net proxy
HSDPA IS 3G. You are using data on the AT&T network.
No matter how much you argue with me, it won't change the fact that unless you use WiFi, data is being transmitted on the AT&T network and MMS/SMS will not work over WiFi.
im not sure why this is so hard to understand so let me try to lay this out before locking this thread...
If your phone uses any sort of data over cellular no matter how its connected to the network (GSM, 3G, HSPA, Edge, NOT including wifi) its tracked, it does not matter what server its connected through (media net, MY ISP, PDA Connect, etc), even if your phone was set to use a different proxy then the data still has to go through att before hitting the other proxy... If it can be tracked it can be billed, and ATT tracks EVERYTHING, SMS, MMS, PTT, Video share, browsing, etc....
I'm connected to Orange Israel cellular network. Orange got 2 APN for 3G connection. The first "uinternet" in open internet connection and the second "uwap.orange.co.il" is connection to Orange WAP network and to the internet through a proxy (port 80 only).
I got both APN defined the internet in the MY ISP connections and the wap in the My Work Network with the proxy setup.
On my previous device (HTC TyTN) with the official HTC ROM i was able to connect to both APN on the same time, having wap connection for the Exchange push mail and MMS while the internet connection used for a POP3 and iMap4 accounts.
Since switching to the Kaiser I can't connect to both on the same time, and if I send a MMS the device tries to switch to the wap connection and keep disconnecting due to the Exchange and Live push email keep reconnecting the internet connection.
Due anyone know how can I connect to both APNs and if not what is require to do (beside disabling the push email) to enable the APN switching ?
ok first of all i did google this but didn't find anything specific
alright so under my "connections setting i have my "select automatic network" to MY ISP.....i thought that was enough to avoid data charges (since i only want to use wifi for internet browsing and emails...and i dont have a data plan).
So i was playing around with the email options and under the "server" settings i noticed the connection was set to Medianet....my heart came in my mouth since i've been going crazy with the e-mails thinking im connected to wifi I changed the connection to MY ISP and now i cant receive e-mails.....so right now im hoping i didn't get charged (somehow) or if i did.....what would be some good bs excuses to get it waived
so my query is..can i send/receive emails via wifi connection? If so, how do i set that up.....
Before i use to turn off "phone" and leave wifi on and i did receive emails with that setup.
so my 2nd qs is....does disabling phone disable medianet or mms capabilities ?
Disabling all Data services from isp
I'm right there with you. I do not want to get a data plan, as I only need internet every once and a while. I have enabled my wi-fi by doing this on my phone:
Start>Settings>Connections>Wi-Fi
then from there you can turn it on, find and join networks...
As to removing all access to your ISP, I am not sure. I keep trying but no matter what i do, every once and a while I notice the little "E" logo at the top symbolizing the EDGE network is being accessed. Which is not what I want. Anyone who can shed some light on disabling the data service from being accessed, it would be greatly appreciated.
hmm well I also do not use the 3G network. The best way I've found to do this is by using the Comm manager and going to the communications manager and disabling 3G and disabling Data Connection. Then if you keep wi-fi enabled it won't ever use the 3G network. If the ROM your using doesn't have a good comm manager then you can download one that has those controls because there are many on this website. Hope this helps,
-John
Modaco No Data is what I use
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
i have issues sending e-mails from the built in client, it always tells me i dont have access or some crap which makes no sense since i can sign into my account and check my e-mail from my phone so i normally have to go to the website for my e-mail to send an e-mail which is a pain
this could be a wm6 problem rather than an x1 problem, but I figured I'd start here. I have an x1a, using it with Tmobile. I have the full data plan, and I can't seem to get the internet and MMS working all at the same time. If internet works then mms tells me i need to "switch connections" to receive an mms" and so I tell it to do it, but then I can't send email or mms, unless I reboot, maybe. I'm thinking its something simple, like maybe I need to specify which connection mms should use, and which connection internet should use, and etc....I'm not sure if they should all be set to the same or different, and if so, which one(s).
Can someone using an x1 and Tmobile tell me what connection settings they use?
does MMS use the "tmobile internet" "Tmobile data" "Tmobile mms"?
does internet use "tmobile internet" or Tmobile data"?
Thanks,
Ian
I don't think it's possible for data and mms to be used at the same time.
Also i'm on an x1i on t-mobile
T-mobile MMS
Wap.voicestream.com
on the proxy settings tab, don't check this network connects to the internet
T-mobile Data
internet2.voicestream.com
on the proxy settings tab, check this network connects to the internet
Thank you very much! That was exactly what I needed, but didn't get from Tmobile "third tier" but didn't get in 1 hr and 15 minutes.
all better!
you are able to use data settings for mms so you dont need to switch networks everytime you send a mms.
mayhaps i spoke too soon. I'm still not able to send mms, and I am still prompted from time to time to allow the phone to switch connections in order to send/receive mms. the one thing that is improved now at least is that i can download mms.
any suggestions on what to do to fix any of the above problems?
i'm sorry, but i don't think it's possible to use t-mobile data for both data and mms at the same time. I got these settings directly from tier 3 tech support.
Try taking a picture, then sending it to yourself. It should say that it will change connections then it should connect to T-mobile MMS. Once that's done, it should send the MMS(takes approx 15 seconds to send). You should receive it shortly after