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Hi,
Can you please test and see if the phone is hardware limited to record the voice of the other person on a call like many other HTC PPC phones.
Software like:
VITO AudioNotes v1.3
Resco Audio Recorder 4 betas
LivePvr
PM Recorder
or even with the build-in Windows Notes.
10x
somebody ? anybody ?
mentox said:
somebody ? anybody ?
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i think there was a post like this on modaco, and the answer was:
resco recorder
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/default.asp
also you could try
vito audio notes
http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/audionotes.html
I am using Resco audio recorder on my Kaiser
austin_boy said:
I am using Resco audio recorder on my Kaiser
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but does it record the call partner voice too?
I know it was possible to record the whole conversation only on smarphone because of an hardware limitation in pocket pc instead smartphone.
Thats also very important for my decision whether to buy the Kaiser or not!
Anybody - please check and post... (would be perfect if somebody could make and record a short test call and attach it here )
Thanks a lot!
El_Mar1ach1 said:
but does it record the call partner voice too?
I know it was possible to record the whole conversation only on smarphone because of an hardware limitation in pocket pc instead smartphone.
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yes, vito audio notes records the other person's voice too. you can just record whenever, or have it automaticly record when u make or recieve a call. it has different settings of sound quality too.
mikeeey said:
yes, vito audio notes records the other person's voice too. you can just record whenever, or have it automatically record when u make or receive a call. it has different settings of sound quality too.
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I know they say that it works, but actually it doesn't for all newer HTC Pocket PCs - that's why we are asking. Anybody here who really tried it and can attach a test call (without loudspeakers turned on!)?
DoctorT said:
I know they say that it works, but actually it doesn't for all newer HTC Pocket PCs - that's why we are asking. Anybody here who really tried it and can attach a test call (without loudspeakers turned on!)?
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well i really cant see why it couldnt... but i suppose if someone tests it then it would be nice ot know
mikeeey said:
well i really cant see why it couldnt... but i suppose if someone tests it then it would be nice ot know
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well, you can see if you do some research - it's a hardware limitation as the phone audio system is not fully integrated into the Windows Mobile audio system...
This is also a feature i would like to see!
There is talk about utilising the Bluetooth Stack to record the call (both ends) but i dont know how far along it is.
Its really frustrating that the PPC phone edition isnt smarter than the 'Smartphones' that can record both ends!
Perhaps we should actually look at this a little differently.
The PPC recorders all seem to record via the mic, but how about a recorder that can record only the audio sent to the speaker! (Thus recording the other person!)
@GLO
Perhaps we should actually look at this a little differently.
The PPC recorders all seem to record via the mic, but how about a recorder that can record only the audio sent to the speaker! (Thus recording the other person!)
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The PPC recorders record via the mic because recording the audio sent to the speaker doesnt work, that is the limitation everybody is talking about. This audio routing is handled in hardware itself and software is not able to tap it in between...
shantzg001 said:
@GLO
The PPC recorders record via the mic because recording the audio sent to the speaker doesnt work, that is the limitation everybody is talking about. This audio routing is handled in hardware itself and software is not able to tap it in between...
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Hi Shantzg001,
I realise they dont record both, but i am suggesting that it would be great to find something that can only record the speaker, not the mic. Just as if you wanted to record streaming music. (that doesnt record from the mic).
I havent found anything yet that can do this but it could just be the search terms im using.
I can confirm that unless you use the speakerphone that Vito Audio Notes, as was supsected, records only the microphone (your own voice, not the other party of the call)of the phone conversation. Also the "auto record" for phone calls does not work when activated either.
Try Resco Audio Recorder, it has trial version for sure.
Some people said it works.
I tried it - you don't hear the other side of the call on the recording unless you use the speaker.
Damn
I really missed this feature (phone recording).
I hope there is a registry setting "EnablePhoneRecording" or something like that.
Do you think this is hardware limitation? Or application issue? or OS? ... hard to guess.
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I tried it - you don't hear the other side of the call on the recording unless you use the speaker.
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Worth to try this one:
http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmsp.htm
Well, I think it is not possible
Read here :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1931&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
So guys, move on ....
This issues has been discussed several times but is there in the meantime a real solution to record also the voice of the caller without using the free speaker ?
Thanks for your help
myrin
peter7 said:
This issues has been discussed several times but is there in the meantime a real solution to record also the voice of the caller without using the free speaker ?
Thanks for your help
myrin
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Nope, not any. Sorry, the Kaiser is crippled in this respect too (unlike, strangely, the Athena - the only current HTC PPC model to allow for call recording.)
peter7 said:
This issues has been discussed several times but is there in the meantime a real solution to record also the voice of the caller without using the free speaker ?
Thanks for your help
myrin
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i use Vito Audio notes - works fine on my kaiser????
winwiz said:
i use Vito Audio notes - works fine on my kaiser????
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It doesn't. Read my related articles - in there, I've explained it's not REAL recording you're hearing. For example, you won't hear the other party at all if you use any kind of a headset or use call recording in a noisy environment.
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i use Vito Audio notes - works fine on my kaiser????
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Doesn't work on my Vario III, only when the speaker phone is on and then it causes a lag of a few seconds. Menneisyys is right, I tried in down the pub without the speaker phone on the other night and when I played back the conversation all I heard was me
Disappointing...
If call recording is a must then you have four options:
1. Use call recording software, always in speakerphone mode. Possible source of embarrassment when using in public areas.
2. HTC Advantage X7500 (Athena). Bulky, heavy and very expensive! Also possible source of embarrassment due to ugly device
3. Buy a Gigabyte WM phone. Most of these support proper call recording of both parties. (Also sold under other names. One example is I-Teq.)
4. Any Nokia Symbian S60 device. Wide selection of devices in a wide price range.
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If call recording is a must then you have four options:
1. Use call recording software, always in speakerphone mode. Possible source of embarrassment when using in public areas.
2. HTC Advantage X7500 (Athena). Bulky, heavy and very expensive! Also possible source of embarrassment due to ugly device
3. Buy a Gigabyte WM phone. Most of these support proper call recording of both parties. (Also sold under other names. One example is I-Teq.)
4. Any Nokia Symbian S60 device. Wide selection of devices in a wide price range.
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5. Some (NOT all! See my articles for a complete list) ASUS and O2 XDA PPC models
6. HTC Oxygen (if you don't mind it being being a low-end Smartphone)
7. i-mate SP5 or Qtek 8310/8300 or SPV-C600
That's why i still use them next to my kaiser. I-mate for phone calls with pmrecorder and internet on my kaiser thru BT dun.
Only problem, no 3G and no BT Dun if you upgrade the smartphone to WM6.
A friend of mime is working on a reg tweak that will enable recording in-coming calls without having the speakers on. He claims that a two step procedure must take place; first is to funnel the call to the head set connection then carry it over to the recorder input. The caller will though hear a click, he said. but so far he was able to record only the caller and not the receiver of the call. Kind like the opposite of what happens now. He might come up with the cab file by next week.
The Universal does it too, on the very slight possibility that anyone cares!
Its this Damn modern stuff!! (BT)
I can remember when I were a lad and the stream only came on T' cable and we had a splitter that blead it to a pocket memo!
No, seriously, Menneisyys is correct. When you route call audio via BT then (at this time!) you can not intercept the incomimg audio for recording.
Please be patient, someone (on here or commercially) will do it.
Don't worry, in a couple of years when we have quad processors in our earbud connected sunglasses with integral viewscreen, we will be laughing at all our old worries. Just think, would you have thought ten tears ago you could have a unit the size of a cigarette packet that did all this? (HTC TyTynII and forget the US hybrids!)
Then you will only have to worry if the colour matches yours eyes!!
asfoor - is your friend ready with the application ?
thanks
myrin
Hi,
Yesterday I have seen an excellent piece of software on my friend’s Nokia phone. It is about to save the conversation.
If you are in the middle of a call or initiating a call, that software prompts you that “Do you want to save the conversation”, [YES/NO]. if "yes" it saves the audio file in the memory card. I am very impressed with it.
Guys do you know whether we have this type of software for our new WM6 device, I am using HTC TYTN II.
Thanks for the help.
Voice call's can't be recorded. Harware Issue !
Resco Audio Recorder
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
mwpeters said:
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
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Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
pda_crazy said:
Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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Doesnt work...
Call recording softwares won't work because the OS doesn't have access to what's being sent to the phone speaker.
I don't know, however, if that would be possible using a wired/BT headset.
good is maybe LIVEPVR
I used program LIVEPVR but only on eten M600+, mio M500 and works ok(when I set microphone correctly).
On Kaiser I will use also but I must again buy this product because upgrade is no free for old user. On handango it's cost only £6.49 .
I used this soft about two year and I record a lot of phone call.
This has been discussed several times before. The only way you can record both parties in a phone call on the Kaiser is to have the phone in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound. This is true with almost all of HTC's PPC phones. One of the few that can do it is the HTC Athena. Buy it if you have plenty of money to burn and are willing to take the risk of becoming the laughing stock of your neighborhood walking around with that brick pressed to your head...
Yup, no flawless recording on the Kaiser, sorry.
Also see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Audio and call recording, answering machines for mor einfo on this subject.
What if you are using a wired/BT headset? Software can control what passes through to the headphones right? Has it been tried already?
Ive never been able to record calls with resco voice recorder on the kaiser either. It works fine on my wizard though. on the kaiser it doesnt even create a call folder while on the wizard I had a call folder with all incoming and outgoing calls.
Not that I need this function, but WOW my old treo 650 that is collecting dust can do this.
updates?
any changes on this?
Yes, there's a solution on it's way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783
Anyone else got this issue and is there a new bluetooth stack or something to resolve it?
When I click the answer button on any bluetooth headset (currently using the iqua solar powered one), the sound is temporarily diverted to by mobile before the bluetooth properly picks up, and also during that slugging moment, any ringtone playing is diverted to the caller's earpiece (i.e. sent out by my mic).
One caller complained it had nearly deafened them.
Anyone able to help?
Having the same issue with my parrot bluetooth and my Tilt
Can someone purrlleeeease help with this issue? I am now scared to answer any calls, lest I get shouted at with, "GOD WHAT WAS THAT NOISE? IT NEARLY DEAFENED ME!"
You really haven't give a lot of info here.
I mean what Rom are you running, what BT hardware and reg tweaks do your use etc.
Info is required to be of any assistance.
Note my signature shows exactly what Rom(s) I'm currently using.
Many thanks. Here are my versions:
HTC TyTN II
ROM: 1.0 Sleuth
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Essentially I think a new Bluetooth stack might solve it, but I really wish to avoid losing all data by flashing a new ROM altogether.
A new Bluetooth stack on its own would be wonderful... or a way to restore my data back to a newer ROM. Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
CJSnet said:
Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
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I know the commercial version is supposed to support "Rom Upgrade" support but I'm not sure if that is in the version that is floating around the forums.
What you can do though is make a backup prior to upgrading.
Then upgrade to test if the problem is fixed in one of WM6.1 roms.
Then downgrade and restore your back-up.
Now you will know if there is even a point to expending the effort of trying to extract the BT Stack.
Don't take offense at this next statement but if you put forth that effort it might endear someone more skilled to your cause as you've provided a "Proof of Concept" so to speak.
Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
CJSnet said:
Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
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Same issue here with the same new ROM.
I'm having the same problem. When I push the button on my BT HF it gives a horrible noise to the caller at the other end for a second. In my case I doubt it is ring tone, it doesn't sound anythin like the tone I'm using, it's just like loud crackling or smth.
I can't give you any version numbers cause by TyTN II is sent off to warranty (3rd time already). This time it stopped accepting and making calls while showing 3G symbol. Previously I had band selection on auto and had no problems. Now even after hard reset no calls could be made so off it went again. The first two faults where the speaker and the "Fn" light.
I am having the same problem, the handet is at HTC's repair facility for this and a few nagging issues. I will report what they find.
Mine isn't so much the ringtone it just sounds like a loud static sound. I thought it was the headset but I tried it with 3 different headsets and the Bluethooth in my car and they all have the same problem.
Got my phone back today and I can't say I'm impressed with HTC. First they requested that I send it in the original box then must have thrown it out and sent it in some crap box without enough padding. They didn't even send a note or invoice saying what had been done, which was nothing.
They claim they couldn't find anything wrong and when I called support the guy thought it a joke.
Needless to say it is still deafening and I am pissed.
Same Issue Here... It is almost as if there is a dely in cutting off the WAV/WMA file. Bluetooth Picks up and and both parties get the end of the ring tone.
Had the issued with the origional AT&T rom
Have the issue with Slueth 3.0 and Alex 5.2
If anyone finds a fix please let me know...
I am using PhoneAlarm - Don't know if that is related.
I've had the same complaints from some of my callers, and try to answer between rings as much as possible. The complaints have gone way down. Of course, we shouldn't have to jump thru hoops to answer our phones!
Does anyone have contact info to point HTC to this worrying thread? We need a patch release ASAP. A phone that can't answer calls properly? Yikes.
No issues with my BlueAnt Z9. Have you guys tried different headsets?
I think you may have just been lucky. It is uncommon to A) answer during the ringtone, and B) have the caller complain about the loud noise.
It happens on my Bluetooth earpiece, and Nokia car kit, and JVC car kit. So, it is for HTC to resolve.
I've tried three headsets and it happens on all of them. It happens even when I have the phone on vibrate.
I spent an hour on the phone with HTC support and they are awful, even after telling her that it happens on three different headsets she says that is sounds like a headset issue not an issue with the phone.
When I explained for the third time that I would agree if it happend with one headset but since it happens with all of the headsets it would support my arguement that it is an issue with the phone.
It was like talking to a wall. I wish I had an alternitive to HTC at this point, I love their design and have never had a problem with any of their other phones but this their lack of support is amazing.
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
VooDoo1 said:
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
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I've never had a problem with any other handset, I've had a Qtek 9100, MDA, O2 Exec, Wing and a Dash.... crap I spent a lot on phones. The only one I've had problems with is the TyTNII.
Same problem here. And sometimes the speaker will very briefly go into speaker mode as I answer! Not good.
I want to occasionally record my mobile phone conversations. Is there software for this that that works on Diamonds?
The "best" is Resco Audio Recorder but you wont be able to record the voice of the person you are talking with anyway. There is no software link from front speaker to recorder
Test this...
http://www.isecretary.net/
with the Prog it is possible record autom. your phone conversations. Also used as an answering machine
but it works not correctly on my TouchDiamond
Vito Audio Notes records both sides of the conversation.
kingklugi said:
http://www.isecretary.net/
with the Prog it is possible record autom. your phone conversations. Also used as an answering machine
but it works not correctly on my TouchDiamond
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I have it installed it to my Touch Pro, never tried yet. What is the trouble with diamond btw?
Solution found, finally!
seugene said:
I want to occasionally record my mobile phone conversations. Is there software for this that that works on Diamonds?
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Funny you ask this, somebody over at the blackstone forum managed to find a way to record phone call the way it should have been done from the beginning.
Works beautifully on my diamond.
All you need is ICR_51spsoft_com.cab from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808&page=10
and voAMRNBEnc.zip from the same thread
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I have it installed it to my Touch Pro, never tried yet. What is the trouble with diamond btw?
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ISECRETARY starts everytime, i can´t stop it when i want.
Just to confirm...
Vito Audio Notes works a treat.
Record meetings, phone conversations, etc.
Works on both P3700 and Raph.
(Diamond and Touch Pro).
Minus-1 said:
Just to confirm...
Vito Audio Notes works a treat.
Record meetings, phone conversations, etc.
Works on both P3700 and Raph.
(Diamond and Touch Pro).
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Do you have to turn on the Speakerphone to record the voice from the other side?
Nope. You don't have to turn the speakerphone on. It'll do it as you talk on the phone.
I think that it WON'T record if you are using a BlueTooth headset, however.
Cheers!
Yes, Audio Notes can record phone call conversation without the need to turn on speaker. Unfortunately the software cannot record counterpart's voice when use with bluetooth headset.
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is it possible to extend the time limit of default voice recorder