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I have been searching for a answer on this and cannot find anything. So I turn to experts like you!
The issue I and maybe others is that whenever I receive a new email message that falls under one of my Mail rules (to route new mail to subfolders in the Exchange Mailbox) my phone will not tell me there is a new message waiting for me to reply too.
Does any one know of a fix\hack\tweak that would tell me when any new email is received....regardless of which folder the message is routed too!
Thanks in advance.

I hope somebody answers this question. I'm going to have to remove all of my rules an start moving them all manually after I read them. That would suck!

Are the subfolders subfolders of the inbox folder?

They most certainty are! Oh wait a minute.....dang didn't even think about that! Hold on.
I moved all the folders from below the inbox into the actual mailbox. But still wont tell me when I receive mail in any box but the Inbox.
I might have to reconfigure the phone (delete the current account and redo the setup)
I will do that later and post back!
Thanks for the help! and great question. I almost feel retarded that I didn't think of that before!

Well moving the folders didnt change anything. Even after the reset of the device.
Any one have any other ideas?

go to the folder directly and hit send/recieve.

punkcell said:
go to the folder directly and hit send/recieve.
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Well its not that the email isnt syncing to the folder.
Its that whenever, ActiveSync runs and downloads mail, it will only tell me about new mail residing in my Inbox and not any other folders. ( I have rules that route mail to the correct subfolder )
I just want to the phone to display the number of messages that are new TOTAL not just in the Inbox.

ok got it.

a rigorous solution, but:
I installed spb diary. This program checks all folders for new mail. It allows for completely managing your mail from the today screen (or just the new mail whatever you prefer) great program.

New TiLT Owner - Outlook Exchange Question

Hi all,
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I thought it would have been fixed in the WM6.
I use subfolders on my exchange server and I am using the exchange connection to my new TiLT to get my email.
When I get email that the sever rules move into a subfolder, I don't get an alert on my device that I have new email.
Is there a way to have an alert on my device when I receive email no matter what folder it ends up in?
Removing my rules is not an option because if all of my email went into my Inbox I would get nothing done.
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I do the same thing but as far as I have looked, I did not find such thing because the push mail function only alerts of you new mail in the INBOX folder. But you can always go and check the other folders in your Outlook email folders. Just make sure they are enabled on the sync option.
- TKN

I think this is a problem with mobile Outlook itself. My other PDA phone does the same thing.

There must be some sort of reg hack out there so this would work...
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Why not modify your rule to copy the item into your folder, not move it? That way it stays in the Inbox. Then you can manually delete the items from your Exchange Inbox or wait until the server deletes them automatically. Unless you can locally purge the Inbox after x days automatically.

Yikes, that will double my mail storage... it is a valid work around though.
I'll leave it open to see if a hack is possible, and treat that option as the worst case.
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If you are using Exchange 2003 or later it should not increase the size. Exchange stores one copy and it just appearers as two to you. If you send an e-mail to ten people in your organization the server only stores one copy. However, this my not apply when users create copies intentionally. Check it out.
Thanks, Lew

Yup, we're on 2007.
Sorted, I'll change the rules.
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Link mail screen to outlook mail

On the TF3D sceen, is there any way to link the mail button to the outlook mail instead of the "internet" mail?
Thanks

Err... If you set up your Outlook mail.. it would work.
If you set up your Outlook Mail and KEEP the Internet Mail (as well), then you will have both of them being accessed from the TF3D mail button (two envelopes on the right, instead of one)
If you set up your Outlook Mail and DELETE the Internet Mail, then you will have one envelope on the right .. and THAT will be the one for Outlook Mail.

To set up your Outlook mail, Tap on TF3D mail button
Then tap on Inbox
Then - Menu - Tools - Options
Now, tap on Outlook E-mail and enter the settings.

I actually tried to configure the Outlook Mail account (time pass) for gmail.
I couldn't get it to work.. (for some reason - sure I did something wrong).
Tried to sync Outlook Mail with my PC using Active Sync... some certificate validity issues came up..
Then, just decided to chuck it.
Had two envelopes appearing on the side.. just went ahead and cleared up everything from the registry - related to the mail set ups and set up my Gmail as the Internet Mail again.

I have set up my Outlook, and as you can see from screenshot, it's got mail in it, however, if I delete my POP3 email, the TF3D screen shows no accounts in the mail screen...

Anyone got any idead how to link the Outlook Inbox to the TF3D Mail screen??

Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around

mkhattab said:
Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around
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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....

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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....
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It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you

mkhattab said:
It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you
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Excellent. I'm now showing the envelope in the Mail TF3D screen. I presume that with this workaround, all I will ever get is the "Click to view message" message, and not the first few lines of the message that you get with a POP3 account or a proper outlook account. (see attached)
From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?

mcvpjd3 said:
From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?
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Correct.
I am using version 9 which works like a charm. I work for the local operator here in Dubai and am currently one of a few internal testers for IMS before we launch it as a service. I find it to be very functional and light on resources- highly highly recommended. Beats all competition including Blackberry (I've also set it up to get a personal POP3 account in much the same way as BB Internet does)
As for how much of the message appears in the TF3D, this depends on how much you tell Outlook to download of the message- all you need is a couple of KBs at the most to get the first few lines in the envelope.

Hey guys
I'm sorry but this will be probably an off-topic and stupid question but when you receive an email on your Diamond does it look like on your pc and can you view emails that have lots of graphics in them ??
I'm really sorry but this is my first WM device and i would like to know things like that

It depends on what kind of email account you are setting up on the device. If it's an Exchange account, the server has to be running Exchange 2007 for you to get HTML email on your device. Internet Email and IMAP display HTML without any problems.

well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??

gaabrysz said:
well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??
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Well... there's many to choose from depending on your needs and budget (not sure of any free ones but you'll probably find some out there- although possibly not because Exchange is not cheap to install or maintain). Anyway a simple Google will give you many results http://www.google.ae/search?hl=en&q=hosted+exchange&meta=

Anyone found the solution yet ?
Noticed the solution to sync to a phony account - But I would really prefer to sort this via a registry tweak or similar.
I need to roll this out to a large number of corporate users, so the phony tweak is kind of hard to roll out compared to a registry modification.
Anyone?...
Its kind of frustrating to see the number of new emails in the notification area of TF3D but not actually being able to use the TF3D envelope function.
Regards
M

Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim

no link to intellisync/outlook
mawim said:
Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim
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I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq

Marqus said:
I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq
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Sorry to drag up an old thread - I'm currently using Intellisync and would also like to use TF3D to view my emails ...
Did any kind of patch or regedit get released or worked out?
Meanwhile, I'll try the work-around above in this thread if I can work out what to do exactly.
Regards,
Gary.

Any news on this ?
Any sight of that Intellisync patch ?

Can't synch POP mail to desktop Outlook?

I may be late to the game on this issue, but I can't believe what I'm hearing from another source. Hope I put this in the right forum.
Is it true that when we send or receive a POP message on our PDA that there's no way we can synchronize that message back to Outlook on the desktop?
What I need to do is to have any message received or sent using Pocket Outlook with WiFi or 3G/GPRS while away from my desktop syncrhonized back to Outlook via ActiveSync. I've been told this can't be done.
In other words, what we have here is the electronic Roach Motel for email?
Someone please tell me it's not true.

I don't think that's true. I haven't used Outlook/Pop Mail since my Dell Axim Days, but to worked then.
What's true is POP is a one shot deal. If you download the message from your email server using POP to your Mobile, you can't download it from your email server to your Desktop Outlook.

Yes, I understand that with POP, you have the option of either keeping the messages on the server, or having them deleted after download.
Here's a scenario. This is what I'd like to happen. Please let me know if it's possible with a standard POP/SMTP server (NOT an Exchange server, and IMAP isn't an option for me at this time).
1) I synchronize my device with my pc and emails are updated to their respective folders on the PDA while physically connected to my desktop. I then disconnect and leave my office.
2) While on the road, I download an email to the device using one of my POP accounts via either 3G or WiFi. I respond to that message and send it back. Now, I have one new message in the In Box on the PDA, and a response in my Sent Items folder on the PDA.
3) When I return home, I want both those new messages - one in the In Box and on in the Sent Items folder to be synchronized back from the PDA to the desktop.
I've been told it's not possible. Can someone confirm, and if it's true, please explain to me (in layman's terms) how messages manage to go into the machine, but messages downloaded using the PDA just don't want to come out?

BillTheCat said:
I've been told it's not possible.
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AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.

GWelker62 said:
AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.
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Incredible. I'm speechless. So, the phone really is like the D-Con roach motel.
I'm incredulous that we have a system that gets Email from the desktop to the machine, and a machine that can send and receive emails while away from the desktop, but can't manage to get the messages back to the desktop when you return.
I just fail to understand how something seemingly so simple can be so complex. After all, POP email is just more or less a text file.

Ok, I've been thinking about this.
Of all the Email addresses I have, the majority of them are in my control. There is only one email address (att.net) that I have no control over and offers only POP.
If I migrate my domains from GoDaddy (which does NOT offer IMAP) to another IHV, can I have my att.net POP email automatically forwarded to a 'ghost' IMAP account at a new host, and accomplish what I want?
I still get back to being amazed that Microsoft hasn't had the forethought to supporting synchronization of POP messages from the phone back to desktop Outook. How F'n stupid is that???
Thanks in advance for any thoughts y'all have on this matter.

I think in Windows Pocket PC 2003 it did sync with POP. But the Windows Mobile Line assumes everyone is using exchange servers. Microsoft makes a lot of assumptions like that.
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!

I'm currently in quite a similar situation - I use Outlook 2007 on my desktop to download ALL my email, 95% of which comes from my Yahoo account. As it stands right now, I POP download my emails to my Outlook (Yahoo doesnt support desktop IMAP unless you pay), and I IMAP it to my Tilt (Yahoo does, however, support IMAP to mobiles, i guess? ). Currently I'll BCC a copy of any email I send to myself, and then once it's POPed back to Outlook, I just move it to the Sent Mail. It's a hassle but it's the best I can do.
The one annoyance is that if you don't close Outlook before leaving home, the POP automatically marks the messages as "read" once downloaded, and so when the Tilt IMAPs them in, they're already marked as read and so I don't get notified.
If you figure anything out (that doesn't require access to my own server!) please let us know lol

JimmyMcGee said:
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!
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LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?

BillTheCat said:
LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?
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I prefer DreamHost myself.
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.

JimmyMcGee said:
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.
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Ok, so bear with me, because I'm still getting my head around how this all works.
Let's say I migrate my hosting and set up IMAP accounts for my various email addresses. Then I set both the PDA and my Desktop respectively to download and delete messages from the server. Will messages sent and received on the PDA (therefore stored on the phone) be replicated to the desktop using ActiveSync when I reconnect for a synchronization? Or will I find myself back with the same situation I have with POP where ActiveSynch won't 'see' the PDA's IMAP folders and refuse to copy messages to my Desktop Outlook?

Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.

JimmyMcGee said:
Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.
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Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!

BillTheCat said:
Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!
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Basically, yeah.
Maybe use a GMAIL account via Imap and seee what happens when you check it from two locations.
Feel free to shoot me any questions you have.

No notification / alertsound for direct push from exchange subfolders

Hello Everyone,
I am a recent addition to the WinMo community and to the X1 bunch in particular.
I have been messing about with my new Xperia (hardSPL, Custom ROM etc. etc.) and I seem to have run into a shortcoming that is WinMo related and not ROM related.
Apparently (I have searched the forums for this quite extensively) there is no way to have a notification (sound or vibration) to inform me when an email has been pushed from an exchange server directly to a subfolder of my inbox, based on a server side rule (i.e. having all the emails sent from my office go directly to my inbox subfolder that is labeled Work Emails).
I am sure plenty of people here have exchange accounts with subfolders, so there must be a solution. Moreover, I cannot understand how this feature is present on email clients for Symbian devices for Microsoft Exchange but is not supported in Microsoft's own Pocket Outlook (RoadSync for Symbian has this feature).
So far I have found the following 2 work-arounds (i would not define them solutions):
1) FlexMail 4. I have not tested it myself but apparently it does notify subfolder emails. However I don't like the idea to spend money on an application that cannot be integrated in TF3D or SPB.
2) http://www.blackmonlabs.com/faq.html; This is a small app specifically ment to fix this issue. However it is not compatible with any of the shells for WinMo 6.1.
So here I am asking the community the following question:
Is there any way to fix this?
Is this fixed in WinMo 6.5?
I am not a programmer, but it would appear bizarre that there is no way to associate a notification to an email, simply because it does not appear in the inbox but in a subfolder of the inbox.
Please help a newb ;-)
P.S. I don't mind paying for a solution. As long as I don't have to give up any functionality of the ROM simply to get the phone to vibrate when I receive an email to my subfolders.

Mate, I understand your frustration!
I have found this a pain since I had my first windows mobile device (Orange SPV - and the 14 devices since!) and have given up on M$ ever fixing it (if they see it as a problem!).
To answer your question, No it is not working in 6.5 either.
Here's hoping that it will in Mobile 7 but I ain't gonna hold my breath!

@Sganatra
This is really bad.
I am hoping someone is going to post and shed some light. What I don't understand is the fact that from a coding point of view this would seem as a trivial matter. All that is required is to extend the settings applicable to the inbox to all the subfolders, in such a way that if a new message in the inbox triggers a vibration and graphical notice the same applies to a new message in a subfolder.
However, the fact that there seems to be no fix for this is very problematic....I have 5-6 subfolders for my email account. All the business people I know use multiple folders...I would go insane if i did not have an automatic way of sorting incoming messages....
I guess I will have to work out a way to get around this problem.
Can someon confirm that FlexMail 4 positively notifies emails to subfolders?
Any other email client for WinMo is most welcome as well.
Thank you

Ok, someone has suggested installing second today and using the blackmonlab software therein.
However, this still appears to be a less then optimal solution.
I am thinking about putting a bounty on this, I am willing to pay for a cab/registry fix/hack ....whatever really, that will give me notifications/alerts for email received in my exchange subfolders.

Hey, m8, I am facing your same problem.. It is unbelievable! Did you find any solution?
Thanks

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