ANYONE CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE A DIAMOND WORKING ON THE 850 3G BAND FOR ATT?
I have been told that the "DIAM130" diamond will work for the 850 3g att band but I am yet to have anyone confirm this! I really wanna get a diamond but 3g is a must for me, so please let us know ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
Please spend more time searching and less time double posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414492
Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
These are the answers I give to anyone who wants to post the same question over and over all across the forum. Good luck Lewi!
GEEZ
Thanks you all so much for your kindness, yes I have double posted about this and I continue to get a mixed review. If you would spend more time helping then being a jack [email protected]# then maybe you would not only help me but others as well. For the record here are the replys to my threads:
poedgirl posted: I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
MrCalico posted: just got my Diamond Touch today and it came with the
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE Dated (7/10/08)
O/S: CE 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
I'm only getting (E)dge on AT&T
No (G) or (H)
My upgraded TILT/TYN II connects to G3 and H at my location here in Los Angeles.
I hope someone figures out a way to get at least a G3 and 850Mhz radio.
Does it just need to be unlocked ??
I have read the many many threads that have been posted about this topic and like most everyone else I am still on the fence as to if there is indeed a DIAMOND that works for the us 3g 850 band! In the same threads that you guys have blasted for me not reading I have seen that supposly there is a "DIAM130" that gets the 850mhz hsdpa 3g band. I am just trying to get someone to confirm it. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, I am just trying to clarify something not just for me but for everyone else!
I think this statement is not only stupid but rude, as I am just merly trying to clarify something:
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Is this guy serious? Can we just like, vote to ban him now? 2 posts in the Diamond section asking the exact same question, so here's the answer you get.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
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Black93300ZX I AM NOT GOING TO STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL AND DOWN YOU IN ANYWAY, I AM GOING TO PRAY AND ASK GOD TO BLESS YOU!
Remember these threads are here to help others and maybe this will answer the same ? for someone else and save them the HARD ACHE AND BLASTS that they may recieve!
I would like to say thank you to everyone in these forums that continue to help and make this a great place to gather info.
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Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
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Lewi, I would reiterate what jomo says here and ask that you please update the title of your thread to include a question mark instead of an exclamation point. I for one know that I opened the thread very excited thinking that I was getting new info on a subject that's been discussed so much for the past few weeks.
Thanks.
You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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Never mentioned you being obnoxious jomo25, I actually thank you for posting the already posted threads for those who havent read them just wish I would have done it first =o)... I am sorry if i mislead anyone on the title description and I just changed it, apparently alot of people still are like me and really cant wait to have some one verify WE DO HAVE A 850 3g diamond that will work for the US! (Noticed the 168 views already for this tread)
lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
lewi - thanks for asking about this. I have a Diamond with the .05 radio and it is working on EDGE with AT&T for sure. I'd love it to work on 3G! It's not at all clear to me a) whether it would switch to 3G automatically if it could, or b) if it would need some configuration. Moreover, it's not clear to me how one can tell which frequency the radio is currently operating on.
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lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
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Thank you for your great post, I have been on google and have done a ton of research outside of these forums, and like i have posted in one of the forums I have not seen anyone saying they have a diamond working here in the us on 3G! It is so hard to go by what "websites" say on the specs because so much of there information is just cut and pasted and usually wrong. For instance COMP USA had on there site where they were selling the diamond that worked for US 3G and they got so many orders and calls on it that they finally relized that they were wrong and it didnt actually work, so they changed it.
here is the link about that http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-surfaces-at-compusa-with-quad-band-connecti/
here is a link saying that there isnt any diamond that is compatible with the hspa 850 band at this time:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/07/25/diamond.gets.gsm.850.edge/
THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THEY ARE ONLY GETTING GSM (EDGE)
but here is also another link saying that the fcc has approved the us 3g band diamond:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/2...ts-fcc-approval-with-us-3g-hsdpa-support.html
BUT THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THERE IS A 3G BAND DIAMOND "DIAM130"
AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE DONE ALOT OF SEARCHING AND STILL IT IS HARD TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
Thanks for all the input from everyone and maybe one day we will get someone to actually post "I HAVE A DIAMOND IN THE US AND ITS WORKING JUST GREAT ON 3G" =o)
Until then I guess I will just have to live without the beautiful VGA screen and make do with my tilt.
Okay, Lewi, you want a PERFECTLY CLEAR CUT AND HONEST ANSWER...
Here we go, it's been said a million times...
THE NEWEST ROM FOR THE DIAMOND...
ENABLES 850MHZ GSM ONLY...
THEREFORE...
YOUR DIAMOND NOW HAS...
850/900/1800/1900 GSM....
900/2100 UMTS...
WHICH WILL NOT WORK ON AT&T'S 3G BANDS OF 850 OR 1900.
Case closed, no matter how many times you ask in this section, the ROM development section, or any other for that matter, this is what is known.
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
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Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
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Error 404 - Requested page not found
Black93300ZX said:
Error 404 - Requested page not found
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well THAT'S a disappointment. Just confirmed that no Diamond, unless made for the US, will work with US 3G bands ever. Good luck to those people who bought European versions to have them early.
Howeverrr, if I do recall, I think the Touch Pro has all radios in it... Didn't someone post on here about the project leader for the Diamond saying how they had to remove the US radio to make it so slim? Hmm...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2471618&postcount=54
It seems he's right.
And things just get curiouser and curiouser... Why doesn't the Touch Pro FCC test mention WCDMA? Is it because the ROM is locking it like 850 GSM in the original Diamond, or was it left out of that too?
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
I just don't understand at all how this phone works on Telstra NextG (850MHz HSPA) with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM and yet it doesn't work on the US carriers, doesn't make sense to me.
US TD
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
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The Touch Pro should work everywhere with 3G... If it still has the radio like we suspect it does.
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All:
I have read the forums here about the dropped calls issue with some of the cingular roms and have a couple of questions surrounding this issue.
1. I cannot seem to be on the phone (GSM) and connected to any apps (GPRS/EDGE). Example -- I am on the phone and launch a messenger app, or WMIRC, or office communicator mobile. They won't connect. THe GPRS connection says its on hold. Is there a way around this? Someone replied that there is no way around it.
2. If I am on th ephone, and attempt the above, my phone call drops. This seems to be related to the forum thread about dropped calls. Someone replied in another thread to me that this means the rom is not handling the fact that if it tries to connect to something via GPS and a GSM call is active then it should handle that well instead of dropping my call. I am wondering, could this be a radio ROM issue? Should summiters rom have a different radio rom in it?
Any suggestions / thoughts. I really want the direct push so going back to an older ROM is not a great option. This is all more of an annoyance than anything right now. It would be nice to stay connected to office communicator though while I am on the phone.
sk7575 said:
...Is there a way around this? Someone replied that there is no way around it...
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If someone already posted the answer to your question, why are you asking? The fact is that until UMTS 3G, you can't have active data while talking on the phone.
Geoffrey
sk7575 said:
All:
I have read the forums here about the dropped calls issue with some of the cingular roms and have a couple of questions surrounding this issue.
1. I cannot seem to be on the phone (GSM) and connected to any apps (GPRS/EDGE). Example -- I am on the phone and launch a messenger app, or WMIRC, or office communicator mobile. They won't connect. THe GPRS connection says its on hold. Is there a way around this? Someone replied that there is no way around it.
2. If I am on th ephone, and attempt the above, my phone call drops. This seems to be related to the forum thread about dropped calls. Someone replied in another thread to me that this means the rom is not handling the fact that if it tries to connect to something via GPS and a GSM call is active then it should handle that well instead of dropping my call. I am wondering, could this be a radio ROM issue? Should summiters rom have a different radio rom in it?
Any suggestions / thoughts. I really want the direct push so going back to an older ROM is not a great option. This is all more of an annoyance than anything right now. It would be nice to stay connected to office communicator though while I am on the phone.
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I'm not positive, but I believe that only certain classes of devices (class A) can do voice and data..and I don't think the Wiz is a class A device.
As far as dropping calls - which AKU 2.3 did you install?
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If someone already posted the answer to your question, why are you asking? The fact is that until UMTS 3G, you can't have active data while talking on the phone.
Geoffrey
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Heh. people like you spoil these types of forums. if you don't like a message just don't read it.
To answer your question anyways -- someone answered my questions AFTER i made the post on this new thread, so I decided to post those reponses here in case anyone stumbled on this and was looking for the same answer I was.
thanks for your concern. Keep on making the web a great place
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gmaugham said:
sk7575 said:
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If someone already posted the answer to your question, why are you asking? The fact is that until UMTS 3G, you can't have active data while talking on the phone.
Geoffrey
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Heh. people like you spoil these types of forums. if you don't like a message just don't read it.
To answer your question anyways -- someone answered my questions AFTER i made the post on this new thread, so I decided to post those reponses here in case anyone stumbled on this and was looking for the same answer I was.
thanks for your concern. Keep on making the web a great place
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The reason people respond in this fashion is simple. It's a way for people who don't have the courage to say what they feel can do so under the anonymity of a message board. They can shout orders to do searches and reprimand you for asking a question. I agree its ridiculous. But some people prefer venting misguided anger rather than ignoring a post.
Hey everyone, my parents just moved up to Anderson CA and I they only have Edge up there right now. Just wondering if anyone has any clue of plans for at&t expanding the 3g coverage? Its just frustrating for my mom since the move because she was so used to the perks of 3g/HSDPA down here in southern california.
Any info?????????????
Google will be more than happy to provide you with indexed results of news articles detailing AT&Ts expansion plans
Why don't you bug AT&T whom can actually do something about it? If you can, get a number of people to complain because at&t tends to ignore customer requests.
NuShrike said:
Why don't you bug AT&T whom can actually do something about it? If you can, get a number of people to complain because at&t tends to ignore customer requests.
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Who is bugging? Its a simple question, the reason I asked here instead of AT&T who really doesn't give a **** is the same reason I come here for new roms, radios, apps etc...etc... There seems to be a few people here that have information long before our service providers do. Do I need to go on?
I think he was saying your going to have to bug them.
at&t won't build out in areas it doesn't think has customers, so you have to bug them (lord knows how I've tried myself).
Otherwise, there's the 3G forum on the at&t forum on HowardForums where you can bug because some of the reps might be reading that.
Questions though?
Why the choice of this Forum catagory instaead of the General General Forum?
This really doesn't have anything to do with Kaisers.
i would just get a couple of your friends with att and try to call them and see if they can do something about it. when there is a lot of people calling they normally would act faster when developing new coverage. but dont expect it comming fast though
I'm running:
ATT Tilt
Alex's UltraClean v5.WM61.HTC.302.beta2 (3.02.405.0 WWE)
KAISER Radio 1.64.08.21
I've had my Tilt about 8 months, and 3G has finally come to my area and I've got a few questions/problems.
The first (and most important) is that I can't make phone calls while on 3G. On EDGE if I tried it would pop up an error about having a data session and a call session. On 3G it just pretends to connect but never does. It goes to H mode when I've got an active data session. (HSDPA is on.)
The second is why is everyone capped at ~700-900kbit/s? At least I seems that way to me and some of my coworkers. I could have sworn I was in a city once (Richmond) and I was getting ~3200kbit/s.
The last thing is that I haven't been keeping up with ROM development very well. I've been looking for something that has most of the fixes, upgrades, and tweaks but doesn't have anything or hardly anything installed. I like the ATT roms, but I can use the Operator Config if need be. I have UC set up for anything else.
Any comments or suggestions?
sounds like someone needs to introduce you to the search function. The 3G problem was discussed last week so the thread isn't far behind, I have no idea about the cap, and you need to go look at the 50 million roms out there.
Searching for:
"tilt 3g phone call"
"tilt 3g voice and data"
"tilt 3g phone call while data connected"
And any other number of queries didn't produce any results for me. I think I'll browse around general some more, but I'd not seen it mentioned. What query would you use to produce the intended results?
Also, I've browsed around the ROM forums a lot. They're confusing at best. I was hoping someone could make a suggestion off-hand about something they new and liked.
Dutty's Rom
Very rarely will you get a good answer from a senior member on this site. All they say is search. Kind of hard to find a real good answer in a search if it turns up 10000 results. There a lot of helpful people on here but it seems to me that the most likely response will be search...it's out there.
I use Dutty's 6.1 ROM and really like it although I haven't tried any of the others yet.
Not to sure about the 3G cap you are talking about. I didn't notice it in any of the previous posts. I've only been fortunate enough to use 3G in one are so I don't know how it compares with out places. I only average about 750k or so.
Good luck!
wmg76 said:
Very rarely will you get a good answer from a senior member on this site. All they say is search. Kind of hard to find a real good answer in a search if it turns up 10000 results. There a lot of helpful people on here but it seems to me that the most likely response will be search...it's out there.
I use Dutty's 6.1 ROM and really like it although I haven't tried any of the others yet.
Not to sure about the 3G cap you are talking about. I didn't notice it in any of the previous posts. I've only been fortunate enough to use 3G in one are so I don't know how it compares with out places. I only average about 750k or so.
Good luck!
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Jebus Pot Smoking Cries. You know why we say Search? It's not because we don't like giving the answer, we don't like giving the same answer over and over and oever. By not searching and creating usless threads it makes the Search results turn up 10000 results.
So don't act like you are better than us. Your only going to make people mad. We say Search, because it is out there. I know I personally, with a few other people, worked hard on formatting the Kaiser FAQ Wiki. If there is something not on there that you would like to be, you can PM me or add it yourself.
Just remember without senior members you wouldn't have Custom ROMs or Diamond Keyboards or HardSPL. So don't act holier then thou, because in the end we are here to foster learning by doing, not feeding by spoon.
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Jebus Pot Smoking Cries. You know why we say Search? It's not because we don't like giving the answer, we don't like giving the same answer over and over and oever. By not searching and creating usless threads it makes the Search results turn up 10000 results.
So don't act like you are better than us. Your only going to make people mad. We say Search, because it is out there. I know I personally, with a few other people, worked hard on formatting the Kaiser FAQ Wiki. If there is something not on there that you would like to be, you can PM me or add it yourself.
Just remember without senior members you wouldn't have Custom ROMs or Diamond Keyboards or HardSPL. So don't act holier then thou, because in the end we are here to foster learning by doing, not feeding by spoon.
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Not at all acting holier then thou. Just stating the obvious. I've found a lot of help here without having to ask any questions. By doing the right thing and searching and browsing but if that fails and you can't find what you are looking for...you come here and ask the question usually the only response from most users are SEARCH...it's out there. Well heck I've already done that...I've asked for help and still don't have a solution. It kind of sucks sometimes for us "newbies".
I've read the FAQ and I've read the GWENI thing just now. No dice on either of my questions. I've also read like the first 5 pages of Kaiser general.
I'm not pleased with the assumption that I didn't or have not searched. I just haven't found. I appreciate people who take the time to do these things and answer questions and catelogue and keep the answers. I just can't find where my answer lives.
I think I'm going to try out the HyperDragon III rom and/or the dutty newest one. But neither of them satisfy my requirement of not being pre installed with other things.
We'll see how they go.
Also: look at the join date, I may not post but I've been around since my 8125 and done a lot of flashing and reading. I've just not found the answer yet so I came to see (directly) if anyone else had.
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ericiu
Junior Member Join Date: May 2006
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 9
H --> 3G --> E --> nothing! help!
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So, I've lived in an area with just EDGE and my TyTN II for a year now without probs. I've changed the ROMs after using HardSPL from Olipro, etc. without probs. I went over the weekend to Ft. Lauderdale, which is a 3G area, and my pho
ne went crazy. It first shows an H with full strength... then when I try to make a call, it either won't connect or the signal goes completely dead. Other times if I just watch it, it will switch between H, 3G, E, and even G. Sometimes it'll even lose the signal altogether. What is going on?!? I've tried different radios (1.65.20.29 with WM6.1, 1.27.12.11 WM6.0, etc.) and they all do the same thing.
Interestingly, if I go to phone settings and change my band detection things from Auto to GSM and the data to 4 U.S. GSM frequencies, it goes right to Edge and all phone calls go through fine (but now I don't have 3G/H data)
Any ideas guys?
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Does that sound anything like your problem?
wmg76 said:
Not at all acting holier then thou. Just stating the obvious. I've found a lot of help here without having to ask any questions. By doing the right thing and searching and browsing but if that fails and you can't find what you are looking for...you come here and ask the question usually the only response from most users are SEARCH...it's out there. Well heck I've already done that...I've asked for help and still don't have a solution. It kind of sucks sometimes for us "newbies".
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whoa whoa whoa, listen here friend. None of us really has a problem with people doing the searchs and coming back for help (if they really did search), it's when people really don't search or search for a few minutes that makes us say that.
If I can search the problem and find it within 5 minutes, I'll say go search.
See what I'm sayn.
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Does that sound anything like your problem?
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Nope
My problem is that I can make a call OR I can browse the internet. I can't / couldn't do both.
I'm now using :
ROM: Hyperdragon IIIm
Radio: 1.63.16.25
And I can do 3G internet and phone calls. The new rom is... decent for now. Its not as responsive as I'd like but it has the new D3D stuff built in to it. I'd really like to know what the root cause of my problem was. For now I'll settle with this as the fix.
Also, nobody else had data rate cap stuff with AT&T?
I have searched both google and this forum and have not found any relevant information so I am hoping someone might know the answer to this. I have the Touch HD in NYC working on Tmobile with no 3G service. It appears that Tmobile now has the Touch Pro 2 with 3G service. I called Tmobile and they confirmed that it has the 1700/2100 bands. I then called HTC and was told that the radio can/may unlock the needed bands to run on Tmobiles high speed service. So....has anyone tried this? The radio version for the Tmobile Touc Pro 2 is 3.45.25.14 but I cant find it available anywhere to give it a try. Maybe it's lucky I didnt find it as I dont really know the effect it would have on my phone.
So....any thoughts?
OK. I now found a tmobile test version shipped with radio 3.44.25.17
I figured since noone seems to want to take the time to answer I would
just see what I can figure out.
Using NBHextract I was able to get to, from what I can assess is the radio file,
02_GSM.nb
I then found another program that supposedly should help to create a new nbh file with just the radio. I followed the instructions including a text file with the following inside:
Blackstone
00000000
3.44.25.14
USA
300,02_GSM.nb (I do not know if 300 is correct for the HD)
It did create an NBH file, when I tried to run it all I got was an error code "0058002"
I have no idea what the error code means and I do not know what else I can do to try and make this work.
Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might have gone wrong?
Is it just that you cannot use the radios interchangeably between the 2 devices??
bugdeyez said:
noone seems to want to take the time to answer
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You should read that first :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521206 (sticky on this forum)
Where you find that :
Security Unlock lets you flash radios from other devices... technically speaking you can flash any radio, but some will brick it (such as Topaz) - however, Diamond, Raphael and Kovsky should all be fine. It can also be an insurance policy against evil radios - people who had the Kaiser radio from hell will know what I mean.
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as CaiCai says you will need security unlock your HD.
this will cost you £10 gbp read the thread, as you have minimal posts.
Please also be aware this isn't a helpdesk, if you ask a question there's no guarantee it's going to be answered with your 1st 1 1/2 hour of asking
I'd suggest trying some patience, some people actually do have a life away from this forum, I know it doesn't appear that way sometimes, but we do try to escape the cords that bind us..
Personally I cant see how unless they included the hardware to enable the extra frequencies it could possibly work how you want. But I can hex edit the radio after you've done security unlock.
If you read this very forum there is a thread on radios, in fact there's two.
CaiCai: thanks for your straight forward answer and info. I will look into the things you suggested.
Fards:
If I am reading into your post incorrectly, forgive me, but I just sense as if your response has a tinge of attitude. You are absolutely right, i am impatient. However I was not disrespectful about it. I just explained my experience with the methods i tried in attempting to apply the new radio.
That being said, the two radio threads from what ive read, dont address this kind of question. I will reread them to be sure. In regards to your statement about the phone not having the physical capability to work on those bands, there are some people that have postulated that it may be more of a low level programming issue. Also as I said I spoke to someone at HTC and he said it is possible for a radio to allow a phone to work on additional frequencies.
Thanks for your suggestions also. I will look into unlocking the phone as you suggested. I was under the impression I had already done that, but as you see, I am still relatively new to this. Ive been around for over a yr and half, just not many posts. Also, how would hex editing the radio file help in the inatallation of it? I havent heard any references made to that before.
Thanke again fpr taking the time to respond.
As stated previously by others you need to security unlock your device first. Info on this is available here. Radio's from other devices which are known to work on the HD with this security unlock can be found here. Once your device is security unlocked it will state 'Security unlocked' along the top of bootloader screen.
The radio you mention 3.44.25.17, I don't believe has been tried on the HD before, it may work with this security unlock, but it may not. Some radio's from other devices can still brick your device even when you use security unlock, so do this at your own risk.
As fards stated, try and be patient and don't go trying things unless you are 100% certain. Read up on everything first. Myself and others will always try to help when online. If unsure of anything, you can always PM me.
Ta
Rick
Rick, thanks for the info. I know people ask the same questions over and over and it can get annoying. There is just such a wealth of information on here that sometimes it definitely is possible to get lost in it all. I really appreciate all the help i get, especially when it is packed in such a friendly tone.
The radio you mention 3.44.25.17
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Ideally, I am looking for radio 3.45.25.17
I havent found it as of yet found it. That 3.44
was from a test rom for the TMO touch pro 2.
I have the raw files from the TMO TP2 but from
what ive read, you cant make a radio installer from
a rom dumped from a phone. You need the ruu-signed.nbh file.
Thanks a lot.
theres a good chance that the radio will still need hex editing, if you read the threads about radio unlocking it's mentioned in both of them.
It's not hard to do at all, it just needs one section changing
me attitude.. noo never ..
Thanks guys for directing me to the right locations. I think the problem was I was searching with my terms being too specific. Looking for exactly that radio on the HD. Anyway, I will be bringing up the same issue here for anyone that would like to follow how it plays out.
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I guess you can delete this if you would like.
Rhodium radios are not compatible with the HD, they will kill it.
wat a shame. Very disappointing. Well, maybe they will come out with another winmo 3G phone soone to help me out. Thanks everyone for your responses.
If Olipro states Rhodium radios are not compatible with the HD, and they will kill it. Then I would believe him. Unfortunate though
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maybe flash some radio?
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maybe flash some radio?
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No, it is a hardware issue. Try a search, this has been addressed a lot.
i found specifications that says it is have UMTS 1900 like ATT use...
that's the reason i asked abt it.
thnx
tonyio said:
i found specifications that says it is have UMTS 1900 like ATT use...
that's the reason i asked abt it.
thnx
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Again, a quick search will reveal there are two Blackstones. T8282 which has 900/2100mhz bands, and T8285 which has 1900mhz. bands. So if you have a T8285 it will work for US AT&T.
Problem with my HD...PLEASE HELP
Recently, I flashed a new rom to my HD. It was working fine in the first few days. But now, I cannot make a call or receive a call but it shows I have full signal. I am using radio 1.09.25.14 PLEASE HELP! THANKS
This is stupid. This is why no one should respond to questions that a search could easily answer, all the crazies come out. Never should have responded. Can we close this thread?
Already been covered countless times in General Discussion forum (where this should have been opened in first place). No need to duplicate
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p.s. please read and abide by forum rules in future!