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T-mobile MDA says "Data crashes" with SIM card ins

First I would like to thank everyone for posting their wealth of knowledge on these forums, I have learned a lot.
My problem is just as posted in the subject. I upgraded my phone to the 2.17 T-Mo custom ROM just as the instructions said. Ran cidunlock and everything before flashing. My phone works great as a PDA, but as soon as I put in a SIM card I get the "Data Crashes" error. I even tried several SIM cards from varying providers (T-Mobile, Cingular... etc).
I downloaded the 2.17 ROM from a link on these forums. Now Ihave downloaded the T-Mo original ship OS (from same link as the custom ROM), but it is not an exe and I have no idea how to use the files downloaded. I am not even sure that restoring the original OS will fix this problem. I was going to pay for the program from that imei-check.co.uk site, but unfortunately I can't get my imei (#06#) without a SIM in my phone.
I only found one post about this problem. One soultion offered was to copy thecidunlocked.bin to the phone, but the poster didn't say where to copy the file to on the phone.
I noticed a new program on the hompage here that will unlock any Universal. Will this work to fix my T-Mo MDA?
Will performing a SIM unlock solve this issue?
I did't want to try to SIM unlock or do anything else to my phone without further guidance from some helpful person. Trying not to screw my phone anymore than it is.
I am desperate for suggestions/solutions from anyone that has solved this issue.
Also, with so many different names for the Wizard, what name is the T-Mobile MDA commonly refered to? Is it the MDA Vario? This just makes me more confused about which programs apply to my phone.

Use lockiwiz 0.3a worked with my device after upgrading to qtek aku2.
Follow instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768

Re: T-mobile MDA says "Data crashes" with SIM card
earljg said:
First I would like to thank everyone for posting their wealth of knowledge on these forums, I have learned a lot.
My problem is just as posted in the subject. I upgraded my phone to the 2.17 T-Mo custom ROM just as the instructions said. Ran cidunlock and everything before flashing. My phone works great as a PDA, but as soon as I put in a SIM card I get the "Data Crashes" error. I even tried several SIM cards from varying providers (T-Mobile, Cingular... etc).
I downloaded the 2.17 ROM from a link on these forums. Now Ihave downloaded the T-Mo original ship OS (from same link as the custom ROM), but it is not an exe and I have no idea how to use the files downloaded. I am not even sure that restoring the original OS will fix this problem. I was going to pay for the program from that imei-check.co.uk site, but unfortunately I can't get my imei (#06#) without a SIM in my phone.
I only found one post about this problem. One soultion offered was to copy thecidunlocked.bin to the phone, but the poster didn't say where to copy the file to on the phone.
I noticed a new program on the hompage here that will unlock any Universal. Will this work to fix my T-Mo MDA?
Will performing a SIM unlock solve this issue?
I did't want to try to SIM unlock or do anything else to my phone without further guidance from some helpful person. Trying not to screw my phone anymore than it is.
I am desperate for suggestions/solutions from anyone that has solved this issue.
Also, with so many different names for the Wizard, what name is the T-Mobile MDA commonly refered to? Is it the MDA Vario? This just makes me more confused about which programs apply to my phone.
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i have the same problem, i still could not get an answer from here. I have followed numerous tutorials done by others who have had a similar crash. restoring to original tmo rom did not help me. ran unlokwix03a, which gave me the unlock code.
So I did manage to get a unlock code but when I put in a diff sim from another carrier am not even getting the prompt to enter it. so anyone with a solution we realy could use your help.
kizo

I used Lokiwiz3a to unlock my custom T-Mo 2.17 ROM MDA phone. I am still getting the "Data Crashes..." error even when I insert a cingular SIM into my T-Mo device. I can't seem to get the input screen to enter the SIM code that I got from Lokiwiz. I even ran Lokiwiz twice, with my T-Mo SIM card inserted ("Data crashes" screen was on) and without it inserted. Then tried again with a cingular SIM and the same error message appears.
Can someone advise me in this issue again?
Thanks

I had the same issue and spent countless hours trying to correct the problem. I tried every Rom and unlocking software I could find. Nothing worked. I'm no expert but from what I have learned there seems to be an issue with the IMEI in the US T-Mobile MDA. A few weeks ago I started having problems with the phone so I went to HTC's US website and downloaded the original shipping ROM, flashed it to my phone, not a single problem. In fact the phone actually worked better. Since it worked so well I figured I'd try one of the cooked Roms. I could always go back to the original right? WRONG. I got the data cash screen and an expensive paper weight no matter what I Tried. I called T-mobile and Htc every day for a week. They were no help. Big surprise. The only solution offered by the two was to send the phone to HTC for repair. They said it would cost $38 US just to look at the phone plus any additional fees for repair. 7 to 10 days to figure out the problem and 7 to 10 days for repair. A few days ago I read that some people were using imei-check.co.uk to solve the problem. I decided to go for it. $38 and 5 minutes later, I know have a working phone. Screw T-mobile and HTC.To get the IMEI you need to take your sim card out, go to the COM manager and turn the phone off. Place the Sim card back in and and the data crash screen wont show up unless you turn the phone back on through the COM manager. Hope this helps.

It looks like occassionally it is fixed by going back to the original rom, but not always - then unlocking and reflashing.
Most success with this http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ cost 30-40 bucks but most cases seems to work.
Read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43319

IMEI-Check.co.uk definitely works. I got the same data crash message after I upgraded to 2.17 and their solution worked immediately. BTW the IMEI is printed on the phone right underneath the battery. Whatever you do don't assume the IMEI printed on the box is the one on your phone.

Thanks for everyone's help!! I finally broke down and went to the IMEI site and paid for the program to fix it. My phone is working beautifully now!

Just in case everyone is wondering what I did before I decided to pay for the IMEI and wanted to try before buying a program...
Having the 2.17 ROM installed when I started to have this problem, I first decided to try the method suggested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768
That still came up with the "Data crashes..." error with both T-Mo and Cingular SIM cards inserted. The same as the method in the above link (Lokiwiz3a, etc...).
So then I decided to try an alternative method followed by in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848
Which involves downgrading, then unlocking, then upgrading. Also with no luck on removing the "Data crashes..." error. I tried inserting my SIM after the downgrade and running Lokiwiz02b and still same error message.
Then I finally broke down and paid for the IMEI unlock program as posted in this thread (suggested by meschle, and in many other threads):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43319
If the two previous methods mentioned before the pay method do not work and you decide to pay for the IMEI unlock mentioned: PLEASE follow jt_armstrong's advice (mentioned in above post) for obtaining your phones IMEI # when ordering the program!!
Since I did it as a last resort, it was already too late for me to obtain the IMEI from my phone as the pay website suggests (dial *#06# on your phone). This is due to when I insert my SIM the "Data crashes..." message comes up and there is no way I could obtain my IMEI without looking at the label behind my battery.
All is well now after running the $38 program. I finally realized (with the help of the previous posters, and other threads in this great forum!!) I have exhausted all other options.
Unless you can wait for someone to come up with a definitive solution to this rare (from what I have read) problem, I highly recommend using IMEI unlocking program. I have been trying to find a solution for about 5 days in the forums and this was my last resort...

i got the same problem and fixed it with the paysites....BUT i know i could have fixed it without them...had i saved the locked_bkp.bin file that unlock software generated the first time...
If any of you has the file, they can figure out how to write it to the phone by reading out the .bat file that came with the lokiwiz...
If you tried to unlock it twice....forget about that because the second time the software actually overwrites the backed up file with the crashed one it reads from the phone...

Not to sound to dumb or nieve, i ran lokiwiz, it gave me my unlock code, but when I put a cingular sim in my tmobile device it never asked me for the code. The phone works with both my T-Mobile sim and a Cingular sim. Can I assume than that my Wizard is sim unlocked even though I never had to put in a code?

Not to sound to dumb or nieve, i ran lokiwiz, it gave me my unlock code, but when I put a cingular sim in my tmobile device it never asked me for the code. The phone works with both my T-Mobile sim and a Cingular sim. Can I assume than that my Wizard is sim unlocked even though I never had to put in a code?

Papa_I said:
Not to sound to dumb or nieve, i ran lokiwiz, it gave me my unlock code, but when I put a cingular sim in my tmobile device it never asked me for the code. The phone works with both my T-Mobile sim and a Cingular sim. Can I assume than that my Wizard is sim unlocked even though I never had to put in a code?
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Sounds like it is unlocked to me, but I am no expert. Just figuring if you can use two different SIM cards (not form the same company) in a phone, then it is unlocked. That seems logical, but who knows, maybe T-Mobile isn't being logical and Cingular SIMs normally work with T-Mobile phones. I never actually tested that idea...

To those that find themselves in this situation i just want to tell you that i didn't have to pay to fix my phone. I simply used itsme's tools to flash a new CID block back to the phone (lucky for me that i had a backup of it before facing this problem)
The reason for this is checksum errors in CID block (last 8 bytes of the 64k section) which may occur from bad flashing process or, as in my case, for messing with SPL messages with mtty program.
So all you have to do (if you have a G3 DOC model) is make a backup of CID block before upgrading rom (machinagod's programs create that file automatically when CID unlocking - even if it generates write errors). If the accident happens then downgrade SPL/OS to version 1.06 or bellow and flash the backup CID
cheers

i have a t-mobile dash with the same problem, what can i do if i dont have the cid backup??

tramuyo said:
i have a t-mobile dash with the same problem, what can i do if i dont have the cid backup??
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Get this application http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038 (version 0.3), read the CID block and check if the CID IMEI is same as the label one

downgrade SPL/OS to version 1.06 or bellow and flash the backup CID
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how can i flash the backup cid ? is there any program because i only got 3 .bin-files and dont know what to do with them.
I have another question. What is the difference between the normal IMEI number and the CID-IMEI cause my device has 2 different ones.

peran281 said:
how can i flash the backup cid ? is there any program because i only got 3 .bin-files and dont know what to do with them.
I have another question. What is the difference between the normal IMEI number and the CID-IMEI cause my device has 2 different ones.
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Where did you get those 3 bin files?
The IMEI is stored at two locations:
the gsm_data block and that's where the device reads it from when you browse the "Device Information" ("Identity" tab)
and the CID block as well where i believe that cprog.exe (the GSM app) reads it from
Now the "Data crashes" error might come from bad CID block checksum or from the existence of two different IMEI numbers of these two locations (i tested it )
Use my program again to read the gsm_data IMEI (use the "Read IMEI" button) and see what IMEI you get

Where did you get those 3 bin files?
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i got these files from the lokiwiz tool cause i cid unlocked my device with it.
but since this step i can only flash t-mobile roms on my device but i have an o2 branded one. why?
i have in both locations the same imei i think.
What is the difference between the normal IMEI number and the CID-IMEI cause my device has 2 different ones.
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did u mean this ?
but how can i get a imei which works ?

A helping hand needed to upgrade my MDA Vario!

Hello guys!
I got my MDA Vario last week, and I am very much impressed with it!
I got the MDA Vario brand new without a contract and my intention is to use it with one of those O2 Genie PAYG SIM cards. So.... after much reading this excellent forum I figured out that I would need to unlock the SIMlock on the Vario. Got hold of the Lokiwiz utility, followed the advice on these forums, and tested it with the Orange SIM in my regular phone, and hey presto.... MY PY PHONE IS UNLOCKED!
Next step - to remove all T-Mobile customisations. Again, I had a simple bit of advice from one of you good folk - hard reset, then soft reset when the phone starts to install customisations and now all the pink girlie stuff has gone! Only reminant of T-Mobile left on the phone is the logo on the phone dial keypad.
My thoughts are now with upgrading the ROM. T-Mobile have been very slow with updating their ROM package -a new one is apparently due very soon. Now.... in preparation of installing a new ROM, Ive CID unlocked my phone. I would really like to know which ROM I should upgrade to - there are so many out there! As the phone has been CID & Sim Unlocked, does the phone remained unlocked irrespective of what ROM I install? Can I install a T-Mobile ROM after changing it to another?
As I intend to mostly use an O2 PAYG SIM in it, would it be better to use a new 02 update? If so, which one? Or do I go for another ROM? All very confusing! Finally, Ive heard that I cannot browse the net via GPRS on an 02 PAYG SIM. Is that true? Do I need to flash an ExtROM too?
I know Im asking a lot here and am being a bit of a pain in the backside, but I would really appreciate any and as much advice as possible as I realy dont want to end up with a dead phone! Many thanks in advance!

Hi, yes you could wait for the new rom and i am a believer in sticking with your manufacturer roms because many of the posts here seem to people experimenting with different roms and it all going wrong - lol.
But if you do upgrade proberly the commonest choice is the aku2 qtek rom that i use
download here ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wi...digy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
and the o2 aku2rom not a bad idea too, but without the o2 extras.
Yes you could then upgrade to the t-mobile rom then but often you need to unlock again with lockiwiz 0.3a.
PAYG o2 will browse internet but msn etc.. does not work.
btw yes you are a pain in the arse but then most people here are!! :lol:

Cheers Mark! Nice to have some basic advice - very reassuring for a thicko newbie like me!
Well... I couldnt wait for the new T-Mobile ROM and went ahead with the upgrade with the Qtek upgrade you suggested.
Was a little tricky at first because the upgrade wouldnt happen (port failing to open) but I had a few programs running in the background on my desktop PC and shut them all down so that I had a `Clean` PC. The upgrade process was then as smooth as a babys bottom.
MDA Vario is running really well - well worth the upgrade IMO. Everything seems quicker and generally better. Only problem I have is with wifi - it seems to take ages to make a connection with my PC (ad-hoc peer to peer) whereas on the original T-Mob ROM it was very quick. Any ideas here?
I read that you say I would need Lokiwiz 0.3a to install the AKU2 T-Mob ROM when it is eventually released. I was under the impression that once the PDA was unlocked (lokiwiz 0.2b) I wouldnt need to unlock it again. Is it different with the very latest T-Mob ROM? Can I not revert (downgrade) to the original T-Mob and then upgrade to the new T-Mob ROM? Ive not heard of lokiwiz 0.3a being out yet - would it be as simple as unlocking with lokiwiz 0.2b?
Finally, how on earth do I get the latest 02 ROM? I need to enter my 02 mobile number and IMEI to download it. Do I need lokiwiz 0.3a to install that or any other current ROM?
Cheers for your friendly advice.
Al.

Hi, no problem - glad to help.
Lokiwiz 0.3a is out see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768
For some reason when upgrading (in think it renews cid/spl) to aku2 rom seems to lock again - i had to unlock my qtek with above tool.
Yes you can go back to original rom - but if does not work use farias method of unlocking and downgrading rom (post is in this forum)
Most of the roms are in the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
including the o2 roms, but i would refrain from too much chopping and changing because you can destory the bootloader and then has to go back to the manufacturer.
Many reported problems with the wifi setting up - i would read some of the threads in the wizard forum if i was you. First thing to try is tweak wifi on device to wlan g and it may work better.
see registry tweaks here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
btw good to hang out in the wizard forum too - you will learn alot of tips from there.

Want to also say thanks from another newebie with T-Mobile MDA. Have unlocked phone and CID and flashed with 2.17 QTEK ROM and all is good.
Thanks !!!

if you want th get rid of the tmobile crap on the face...use a 2p coin and move it downwards...not accross
it takes the tmobile paint etc off without any marks..

Jesus sbouri that logo was killing me, brilliant tip, nice one mate!!!

hi
i just got my mda vario and manage to unlocked the phone with lokiwiz03. i know my phone is now sim unlocked, but how do i check if it is cid unlock as well?
i am eager to flash the rom with the qtek version but i have no idea how to do it.
i know i must have my phone cid unlock in order to install a different rom, so do i just download the latest qtek rom, connect my device to usb and activesync it, and then just run the RUU?
i am really noob here.
cheers.

Hi mate if i was you i would use MR CLEANS ROM i flashed with that and its excellent, tottaly clean with no tmobile crap and i didnt do anything with the cid so dont worry.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Wizard/ROMS/MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224_AKU23_WWE.zip
Just download this and run follow instructions, real easy. Good luck mate.

thanks for the advice...i took a bold move and flash it with a qtek rom. works like a charm. before that i did cid unlock using lokiwiz02a, not lokiwiz03.
i will take a look at mr.clean rom at a later stage.
i notice that my imei number is different from the one in my box. does flashing the rom change it?
now my next task would be update to a better radio rom and check out the extension rom.
cheers.

SBouri said:
if you want th get rid of the tmobile crap on the face...use a 2p coin and move it downwards...not accross
it takes the tmobile paint etc off without any marks..
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Great tip, worked like a charm and left no marks.
Thanks.

Hi there, I'm about to flash my UK MDA Vario too.
I'm not sure to use the Mr clean one or the Qtek 2.17 version.
Before I do anything, which is better of the two?
Also, what settings to I need backed up? I have my txt msg service numbers, as well as voicemail. And all of my MMS & GPRS settings.
Am I to assume that all I have to do is input the settings into the device once it's been flashed?
Thanks

Scottland said:
Hi there, I'm about to flash my UK MDA Vario too.
I'm not sure to use the Mr clean one or the Qtek 2.17 version.
Before I do anything, which is better of the two?
Also, what settings to I need backed up? I have my txt msg service numbers, as well as voicemail. And all of my MMS & GPRS settings.
Am I to assume that all I have to do is input the settings into the device once it's been flashed?
Thanks
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The mr clean rom is a more advanced rom and has no extras. The qtek official rom is probably a safer install because its an official rom and many good reports of success and users pleased with the outcome.
Yes when you have flashed just input all those settings again.
Plus you can backup your voice tag database between hard resets by copying the file CommandModel1.bin found under the windows folder to your pc or to the memory card. After rom upgrade copy it back to your windows folder and all your voice tags are back!
Create backup of windows\start menu - most programs that are on the storage card dont need a reinstall.
Create copy of pim.vol in the root directory of the device - contains contact and appt information. After flash change the new pim.vol to pim.vo and copy and paste old pim.vol (use total commander or gsfinder file explorers for this) and soft reset and you will have info back.
Create backup of windows\favorites - for all your internet favorites.
That will make restore a bit quicker than otherwise.

Cheers for the info. I was actually thinking of trying the Mr. Clean one first, is there anything missing from this one, or is it just less stable?

Mr clean is just a clean rom without any of the manufacturers addons. It will probably run very well - its the flashing process with it that may not be as safe as an original rom and may possibly destroy your bootloader etc.. so you have a brick phone. I would always go for the safest option and would not suggest chopping and changing roms. Read the many users stories where everything goes wrong and the forum needs to help them out.

meschle said:
Mr clean is just a clean rom without any of the manufacturers addons. It will probably run very well - its the flashing process with it that may not be as safe as an original rom and may possibly destroy your bootloader etc.. so you have a brick phone. I would always go for the safest option and would not suggest chopping and changing roms. Read the many users stories where everything goes wrong and the forum needs to help them out.
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True, I didn't think about that. Thanks again.

Ive been using Mr clean rom for 1 week now and its excellent from my experience. Its tottaly clean and runs so fast!
By clean i mean it has no customizations as you will find on official roms. It flashed just like any other rom too. Easy as pie. Just my info as people would like to know.

I've just upped to the QTEK ROM, and I've a couple of problems, nothing too serious though I don't think?
Firstly, when making my GRPS connection - I can't seem to find anywhere to input the WAP Proxy settings?
Edit, sorted this one now
Secondly, when settinp up my MMS - I can't select connect via Picture Message in the settings, it's not there?
I'm guessing this is some other connection I have to make up?
Any idea guys?

Scottland said:
I've just upped to the QTEK ROM, and I've a couple of problems, nothing too serious though I don't think?
Firstly, when making my GRPS connection - I can't seem to find anywhere to input the WAP Proxy settings?
Edit, sorted this one now
Secondly, when settinp up my MMS - I can't select connect via Picture Message in the settings, it's not there?
I'm guessing this is some other connection I have to make up?
Any idea guys?
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I cant find what you say under settings - what does it do?

Never mind ignore me, that'll teach me not to read T-Mobile's site correctly

T-mobile NL: problems with dialing after unlocking & upg

Hello everybody
Yesterday I tried to use "lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker v0.2b" for my new T-mobile MDA Vario because otherwise I was not able to upgrade the ROM from 1.6.2.2 to the latest one. But.. in the end I got a problem. To be honest this problem was appearing periodically before unlocking/upgrading but now it presents permanently. I simply can not dial any phone number. The systems responds as: "SIM card is not installed or invalid" (something like that from translation from Dutch into English, originally: "SIM-kaart ontbreekt of ongeldig").
I already tried to use this SIM in my previous phone (SE T630) and it still works perfectly. I can dial numbers, I can SMS, whatever. But in my new T-mobile MDA Vario this SIM card just does not admit dialing the phone numbers.
Does anybody have any thoughts, what it might be?
Thank you very much in advance!!!
P.S. Honestly, in case of warranty during unlocking process I kept my SIM card out off the MDA.

Just for info...
When I bought MDA the version of ROM was 1.6.2.2 NLD
After upgrading I got ROM 2.21.2.5 NLD and ExtROM 2.21.2.108
As I see now it connected to T-mobile network but still can't dial any number, reporting of the possible problems with SIM card. In the same time this SIM card is working with no any problems in my T630.

This is a very strange problem indeed. When you turn your device on or soft reset, does the device ask for a PIN code for the phone? If it asks for a PIN code and it accepts that code and starts searching for a signal, that means that the device can read the SIM card. It is very strange that when you have a signal, the device cannot make call. Either it should not be able to compare your PIN code to the one on your SIM and give an error message, or if it accepts your PIN code, you should be able to make calls. Perhaps there is a hardware problem with your SIM slot that makes the device unable to read the info on your card? Since it works in your other phone, the SIM does not seem to be the problem. You can try flashing another ROM on it to test if the device works with that ROM. If that does not work as well, flash back to an original T-Mobile NL ROM and call T-Mobile for your warranty.

When it is loaded it shows up the Telefoon screen with the following message: "Ongeldige of ontbrekende SIM-kaart. U kunt nog wel alarmnummers bellen, als uw seviceprovider dit ondersteunt." If I type numbers it show stars, like I would enter the password. Why stars? I already tried to input my unlocking code but it didn't help, as looks like it expects something else that this. I may just press Annuleren and continue working with other available functions of MDA but still may not use the phone.
Could you please share the info how to downgrade back to 1.6 ROM?
Thank you very much for your response!

Ok, this indicates that your device cannot read your SIM card. The screen you get on start-up is the screen where you normally enter your PIN code, if the device can read your SIM Card. That is why you see only stars when you enter a number there. Seems to me that your device cannot read your SIM Card and therefore cannot compare the PIN you enter to the one on your SIM card. You should not be able to get a signal from T-Mobile, since your phone cannot read the SIM and cannot register with the network. This can be caused by three problems: either your SIM card slot is broken, or your ROM is faulty (try flashing it to another ROm first, for instance a Qtek ROM from the ftp server, there are many ROMs available there) or the SIM card is defective ( seems not to be the case here, since it still works in your other phone).
I recommend that you first try another ROM on your phone, e.g. a Qtek ROM. If the problem goes away then, just keep the Qtek ROM or try flashing the T-Mobile ROM again. If that does not help, flash the latest T-Mobile ROM (from their website) to your device and claim your warranty for a broken sim slot.
As far as I know it is not possible to downgrade to the 1.6 ROM, it is a non-AKU ROM and cannot override an AKU ROM. Perhaps someone can correct me, since I am not a 100% sure of this. You do not need the 1.6 ROM at all, if the Qtek ROM does not work, just flash the latest T-Mobile ROM to your device and claim warranty. Since you then have an official T-Mobile ROM on your device, warranty should not be a problem.

Would be that a problem to flash latest T-mobile upgrade back from Qtek? I need to know it just in case I would not be able to do that. Cause otherwise, sorry, but im ****ed up in front of warranty office..

It should not be a problem to flash the T-Mobile ROM over a Qtek ROM. You can first try a hard-reset to see if that solves your problem. You can also call T-Mobile Klantenservice and tell them your problem. Tell them you want to use a Qtek ROm to figure out the problem and ask them permission to do so. They are known to give permission for such actions if that can save them from repairing your device. Be sure they make a note in your file stating that they give you permission, that makes your case stronger if there is a problem with your warranty later on. Good luck!

Do you think it's illegal installing even T-mobile NL ROM updates by myself, i.e. not asking T-mobile to do so?
Like I said the previous version of my ROM was 1.6.2.2. Then I actually tried to flash the latest UK version (2.21.2.5). The network signal was actually appearing from time-to-time but then it just died. Then I tried to install the latest NL version (2.21.2.5NLD) to check whether the signal would appear. But it didn't help.

Installing official T-Mobile updates is not illegal. T-Mobile NL made the upgrade available on their site. These updates are meant to be carried out by the users themselves, therefore the file and instructions are placed on their site. For other brands ( Nokia, SE) these updates cannot be done by the users themselves, but Windows Mobile updates are meant to be done by you, thereby saving T-Mobile the costs of performing the upgrades for you. So if an official T-Mobile ROM is on your device, they can never deny you your warranty. You can try to replace the radio Rom only (there is a thread on this) to see if that helps, but I recommend flashing an official T-Mobile NL ROM on your device and claim your warranty. Since you have tried different ROMs, the problem obviously resides in the hardware. If a hard-reset does not help, use the lokiwiz application to sim and cid lock your device again and T-Mobile will not be able to see that you had unlocked it. Just mention that you tried a hard reset and that you tried upgrading to the latest official T-Mobile ROM and they will have to honour your warranty.

Re: T-mobile NL: problems with dialing after unlocking &
First of all to my knowledge T-Mobile MDA Vario in NL is SIMlocked and CID locked . If you want to know the difference I advise you to search in the xda-forum or google it.
Here are a few comments from my experience of upgrading and unlocking my MDA Vario.
( BTW I have T-Mobile MDA Vario initially with 1.6 ROM and SIM& CID lock -first upgraded to 2.21.2.5 then unlocked with lokiwizard3a !! )
cagliostro said:
Hello everybody
Yesterday I tried to use "lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker v0.2b" for my new T-mobile MDA Vario because otherwise I was not able to upgrade the ROM from 1.6.2.2 to the latest one. .
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I disagree with this, upgrading should not require you to unlock your device unless you upgrade to a None-T-Mobile ROM. If this was your main target ( only the Tmobile upgrade ) you shoudn;t have messed with the unlock stuff
cagliostro said:
But.. in the end I got a problem. To be honest this problem was appearing periodically before unlocking/upgrading but now it presents permanently. I simply can not dial any phone number. The systems responds as: "SIM card is not installed or invalid" (something like that from translation from Dutch into English, originally: "SIM-kaart ontbreekt of ongeldig").
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I am a bit puzzled you state that the device was not behaving well before you started tweaking. Why did you not go to the Tmobile shop? OK you like the challenge ? Anyway it does look like a Hardware issue to start with.
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I already tried to use this SIM in my previous phone (SE T630) and it still works perfectly. I can dial numbers, I can SMS, whatever. But in my new T-mobile MDA Vario this SIM card just does not admit dialing the phone numbers.
Does anybody have any thoughts, what it might be?
Thank you very much in advance!!!
P.S. Honestly, in case of warranty during unlocking process I kept my SIM card out off the MDA.
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OK what have you tried else?
The suggestion of trying a QTEK ROM shold be blocked by your CID lock. I you remove the CID lock ( which is possible but not legal ) your warranty is at risk. Tmobile may claim you messed up your device ...
Therefor What I did is only take the SIM lock out. Lokiwizard 2(a/b) did not work for my upgraded MDA so I looked around a bit and found that there is a newer version 3a. That one worked for me on the Tmobile 2.21.2.5 ROM. I did not use or try the QTEK rom since the Tmobile rom allows my warranty to be safe and is newer ( and stable afaik) then the QTEK rom .
I also have found there are updater that do not check your version number of NBF file because you officially can not downgrade the 2.21.2.5 so there is a way back should you need to. Though I personally did not verify this . I mailed with a person here at XDA forum who did it with success.
I would propose to play dummy when approaching Tmobile and not ask to go to QTEK rom and tryin to be the smartass.
Try to downgrade and go for warranty - thats what I would do..

Total Novice Guide Please on Unlock/ROM

There many answers to my questions in the forums, but I need to understand a bit better, hence the special topic.
I am thinkin of getting an MDA Vario with Co-Pilot software, this would be on T-Mobile Network. (actaully an upgrade by a family member for me).
I am on Vodafone myself, so I would need to unlock it, what the difference between SIM lock and CID unlock ? Which do I need to do ?
Then I would want to get rid of all the T-mobile branding, am I right in thinking that would be via a ROM upgrade to a unbranded ROM ? Which is the most favoured ROM people go for ? Whats usually the differences between these branded and unbranded ROM's ?
Stupid question, but th Co-Piliot Software would not get effected my any of these updates would it ? Or does it come on a CD, so I just need to re-install it after all the updated ?
Thats alot of big questions I know, so now you know how confused my head is, any explanantion would be fantastic and help me understand what I would need to do.
Thanks a bunch.

So after more reading I got some answers.
SIM Lock - The lock put on by your mobile supplier, which prevents you using another carriers SIM card. Usually done as your getting the phone at a fraction of the actual cost.
CID Lock - The lock on the phone which prevents ROM updates, I believe it prevents other ROMS, so you can use the current suppliers update ROMS, but will not allow you to put a ROM of another supplier.
ROM's - So there ROM provided by mobile carrier's, for UK I found there is ones from O2, T-Mobile and Qtek, I still do not know what the differences are other then the branding.
I am on Vodafone and by chance found a ROM for Vodafone :-
http://s131209249.online.de/vodafone_software/9100.htm
So I am thinking maybe this would be the best option for me.
I still would like to hear opinons on ROM's, please PLEASE helppppppp.
I assume I CID unlock my T-mobile UK and then I can apply any ROM including the above Vodafone one.

Got my vario today locked to T-mobile UK. And it was a G4 chip.
IPP/SPL - 2.21.0001
OS - 2.24.2.6
I had no t-mobile SIM so stuck my vodafone SIM in, first asks for my personal SIM password, then it asks for unlock code.
At this point I ran lokiwiz03a, which ran but never gave me unlock code, mentioned something about not being able to copy some file and it might be in use.
So I copied EnableRapi.cab to my phone and ran EnableRapi.cab from File Explorer, that went fine (message about overwrite, said yes)
Then I ran LockiwizMsl.bat from desktop while being connected to ActiveSync and there it was the unlock code.
Entered worked fine.
As regards the ROM upgrade, my main reason was to lose all t-mobile crap, but found an easier way with ZERO risk:
First time ever you startup phone it does inital setup, the last step it beings to do an install, as soon as the install starts pull the battery out, then reboot. (Important to have the battery cover off already)
On reboot you should be able to go into the phone no setup screens this time, also ZERO customizations, yes means you need to do all the GPRS, MMS etc etc setting yourself, but that I am happy to do.
Hope this helps someone.

New to WM...looking to upgrade

I bought a couple of Wizards (unlocked Cingular 8125's) recently and have gotten service on them. I am looking to upgrade them both to WM 6.1 if possible. I am in the learning phase of these phones. I am considering buying another phone and using it as a dummy phone.
I am also looking at where to go to upgrade it and since Cingular/AT&T does not support it, i am looking to get the upgrade for free. I just need to be pointed in the right direction, and even if i don't get another phone for a dummy, I want to be able to do my phone first to make sure I upgrade the rom correctly.
If someone is able to help that would be greatly appreciated.
I admit...I'm a Noob

I was hoping to hear something by now... Apparently my question will go unanswered. I know my Wizard (cingular 8125) is sim unlocked, but not sure if it's CID unlocked. I'm still showing the Cingular Logo when I make a call, so I assume I am not CID unlocked. I could use a little assistance on this if at all possible. I have been looking through the wiki pages and the tutorials, however, I am still skeptical about what I'm doing. All Assistance will be appreciated.

You must read carefully & follow this guide to be sure that you are SIM/CID unlock.
If you complete the steps then you can select a rom from the Wizard Mobile 6 thread & flash it.

Thanks for the assist Sam...I have been using the TNT series of Roms, Thanks to It's Right for cooking that one up...going to upgrade my radio then call it good.