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delay on first ring & menu font size

i got a couple of issues:
- when someone calls, the phone seems to stutter and cutoff the first ring a bit. doesnt inspire confidence at all. the ringtone is the same file i used to have on my wizard and worked perfectly for years, so its not the file.
- the menu font size if ridiculously huge! i managed to make it smaller by changing the following registry keys:
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Barfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
and that brings the font size down, however the font glyphs like arrows/checkmarks/circles remain the same huge size. i attached a picture to explain.
how do i change the size of those glyphs?

HKLM\System\GDI\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
I can not find this value!!!!! I found the other 2, but not thus one.

oddball1 said:
HKLM\System\GDI\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
I can not find this value!!!!! I found the other 2, but not thus one.
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it should be:
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
sorry about that, i corrected the original post as well.

come on, i can not be the only one whos bothered that an $800 device can not do its most basic job of RINGING PROBABLY!
no one else has that problem with first ring stuttering? the phone seriously seems to have trouble loading the phone app quickly enough when a call comes in, sometimes it even says "unknown caller" first before recognizing the number and showing the contact name.

Yeah, bit sluggish, thanx WM ?
I don't mind very much, I am not looking at phone waiting for it to ring My ringtone works fine btw?

Try this tweak for ring delay
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sc ript - Change apw3r to apr
Descripion:
a = allow
p = play sound
w3 = wait/delay 3 seconds
r = repeat
f = backlight aan (f1)
v = trillfunctie aan (v0,v1,v2)
Credit should go to Oppainter for finding it

ATMinotaur said:
Try this tweak for ring delay
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sc ript - Change apw3r to apr
Descripion:
a = allow
p = play sound
w3 = wait/delay 3 seconds
r = repeat
f = backlight aan (f1)
v = trillfunctie aan (v0,v1,v2)
Credit should go to Oppainter for finding it
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Doesnt work on my Diamond even after a soft reset...

ATMinotaur said:
Try this tweak for ring delay
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sc ript - Change apw3r to apr
Descripion:
a = allow
p = play sound
w3 = wait/delay 3 seconds
r = repeat
f = backlight aan (f1)
v = trillfunctie aan (v0,v1,v2)
Credit should go to Oppainter for finding it
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This has been mentioned and tested many times in other threads. It does NOT work.

xwaiz said:
This has been mentioned and tested many times in other threads. It does NOT work.
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Fair enough, didn't see posts saying it doesn't work (or I just didn't read those posts properly), and I hadn't properly tested it either.

I have the same problem with the ringtone. I use my own .wav file. I hope someone comes up with an answer, it is a pain ;(

pulp said:
come on, i can not be the only one whos bothered that an $800 device can not do its most basic job of RINGING PROBABLY!
no one else has that problem with first ring stuttering? the phone seriously seems to have trouble loading the phone app quickly enough when a call comes in, sometimes it even says "unknown caller" first before recognizing the number and showing the contact name.
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Yes i have the same problems as you, more specifically:
1. Sometimes it rings just once and goes into "missed call" before I can pick up, and the caller tells me it rang many times and I didn't answer!
2. Unknown caller before the name is identified
3. HUGE fonts of the email header (From, Subject, etc).... I mean they take up half the freakin' screen. WTF?

1st ring cut off prob
gaz_az said:
I have the same problem with the ringtone. I use my own .wav file. I hope someone comes up with an answer, it is a pain ;(
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If you are having problems that the first ring sounds a bit cut off, try converting the ringtone to MP3. I had the same problem with my ringtone (which was WAV). Then I converted it to MP3. The file now has become alot smaller in size (thus faster to load I think) and now my first ring sounds "whole" so to speak. Try it if you use WAV.
Please note that this problem does NOT solve the ringtone delay (it solves the 1st ring cut-off prob for me at least). The ring delay problem still exists after ringtone convertion to MP3 and as far as I know there hasn't been a solution for that yet.

ok, i have managed to get rid of the ringtune stuttering by converting it from .wav(150kb) to .mp3(30kb)
strange thing is i used the same exact .wav ringtune for a couple of years on my old Wizard and there was zero delay. which doesnt make any sense.
however, it still shows "unknown caller" sometimes before recognizing the contact name.
i am starting to think that the HTC phone skin is the culprit here, its simply making everything slow. i tried disabling it with Advanced Configuration but that renders the whole phone app unusable.

pulp said:
ok, i have managed to get rid of the ringtune stuttering by converting it from .wav(150kb) to .mp3(30kb)
strange thing is i used the same exact .wav ringtune for a couple of years on my old Wizard and there was zero delay. which doesnt make any sense.
however, it still shows "unknown caller" sometimes before recognizing the contact name.
i am starting to think that the HTC phone skin is the culprit here, its simply making everything slow. i tried disabling it with Advanced Configuration but that renders the whole phone app unusable.
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I'm glad the file conversion worked for you too. That's right, it's not the wav file that is corrupt, I also used mine for years on my old PPC. It's that the Diamond somehow does have difficulties starting up certain "tasks" when someone calls. It could very well be the TFL3D interface... Even with all the performance tweaks, the problems exist...
Maybe you can try to use the phone option of WM instead of TFL3d? I dunno if this works (haven't tested it myself) but maybe if you remove the tick of the TFL3D in the Start -> Settings -> Today (Items tab) and then soft reset, maybe the TFL3D interface won't start. This way you can try if you have the same delay problem with the phone interface of Windows Mobile... This way we know for sure the HTC TFL3D interface causes the problem here.

pulp said:
ok, i have managed to get rid of the ringtune stuttering by converting it from .wav(150kb) to .mp3(30kb)
strange thing is i used the same exact .wav ringtune for a couple of years on my old Wizard and there was zero delay. which doesnt make any sense.
however, it still shows "unknown caller" sometimes before recognizing the contact name.
i am starting to think that the HTC phone skin is the culprit here, its simply making everything slow. i tried disabling it with Advanced Configuration but that renders the whole phone app unusable.
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i can confirm that changing from wav to mp3 remove/resolve the stattering.
no more breaks after first ring...

pulp said:
i got a couple of issues:
- when someone calls, the phone seems to stutter and cutoff the first ring a bit. doesnt inspire confidence at all. the ringtone is the same file i used to have on my wizard and worked perfectly for years, so its not the file.
- the menu font size if ridiculously huge! i managed to make it smaller by changing the following registry keys:
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Barfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
and that brings the font size down, however the font glyphs like arrows/checkmarks/circles remain the same huge size. i attached a picture to explain.
how do i change the size of those glyphs?
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Hello,
did anyone fpund a solution to bring ont glyphs like arrows/checkmarks/circles to a smaller size?
Greets, Peter

"HUGE fonts of the email header (From, Subject, etc).... I mean they take up half the freakin' screen. WTF?"
Same here: Any one have an idea how to change this?

SK TOOLS check it out, everything you need

zmob123 said:
SK TOOLS check it out, everything you need
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My problem with the menu symbols else?
Peter

zmob123 said:
SK TOOLS check it out, everything you need
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i have looked at http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html there is nothing about font sizes, am i missing something?
@Tolar
i still have not found a way to make those glyphs small either, hopefully someone will figure it out eventually.

Possible to boost speed in HTC Dialer?

Hey there
I have learned that the HTC Dialer is pretty slow compared with the standard WM dialer. It will not only speed the phone up by disabling it, but also free up around 10 mb of ram! However, i like the dialers visuals, and the feature that i can flip the phone if i want to mute a call, which is disabled to if i disable the skin.
I saw the other day in some thread that by converting images from png to jpeg you could spare some ram and space, but can't remember if it was the dailer the topic where about nor where i found this topic.
So my question is. Is it possible to boost the performance of the HTC Dialer ? I do not care if it should take up 10 megs of my ram, all i wan't it to is to get quicker and more responsive, like the traditional wm default dialer, as i want the layout and the "flip to mute" functionality..
Is this possible in some way?
~D

Do you mean this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417208
In here there is also a link to this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2365614&postcount=16
Havent tried it myself... but if It has all the fetures that HTC Dialer has I might give it a try..

Yup!
I'm using that manila VGA dialer, and it doesn't use more than 5.5MBs!! Thats pretty sweet.
And personally, I feel it looks better, with the black/white combination.
One thing to note though.. It takes like 0.8secs to launch the dialer from the moment you press the call button.. BUT, when it launches, it refreshes up your screen instantly!
Compared to the original diamond one, which may get activated quick, but takes a little more time to draw up to the screen.
Overall, it's a keeper for me. Try and.. if ya don't like, you can uninstall.
Cheers.

i found in the new advanced config 3, you can set the dialer hang up time from the default 3 seconds down to pretty much instant. i dont understand why in the world the default time from pushing hangup to actually ending the call would be 3 seconds. but im also a retard.

Blazeitup123 said:
i found in the new advanced config 3, you can set the dialer hang up time from the default 3 seconds down to pretty much instant. i dont understand why in the world the default time from pushing hangup to actually ending the call would be 3 seconds. but im also a retard.
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Ya mean right now it takes 3secs to hang up a call?
Yea I do notice its kinda laggy handling calls. K.. shall try AC3.
Thanks.

MasK said:
Yup!
I'm using that manila VGA dialer, and it doesn't use more than 5.5MBs!! Thats pretty sweet.
And personally, I feel it looks better, with the black/white combination.
One thing to note though.. It takes like 0.8secs to launch the dialer from the moment you press the call button.. BUT, when it launches, it refreshes up your screen instantly!
Compared to the original diamond one, which may get activated quick, but takes a little more time to draw up to the screen.
Overall, it's a keeper for me. Try and.. if ya don't like, you can uninstall.
Cheers.
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I've installed this one ... I like it very much...the 0.8 sec problem is ok for me... but I have another problem... when somebody's calling me ( I have the option to Vibrate and Ring) , after I press Talk ( Answer ) the phone vibrates for about 2 seconds.... very annoying... any ideas?

Go into the phone app and then menu -> options -> advanced and uncheck 'Vibrate device when connection is established'

captainsensible2002 said:
Go into the phone app and then menu -> options -> advanced and uncheck 'Vibrate device when connection is established'
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That is when youre making a call.
But what vibecatalin is saying is when youre picking up the phone, as it when it is vibrating/ringing. When you pick up, the vibrating doesnt cut off instantly.
Yea.. I got that too.. but somehow bearing with it.. heh.

But that sounds like 'vibrate on connect' to me

captainsensible2002 said:
But that sounds like 'vibrate on connect' to me
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No, not that vibration... .... the person who speaks with me can hear too that my phone vibrates for about 2-3 seconds... very annoying ... so I had to unistall the dialer ...

15-second Delay

For the third day with this phone, another problem arose.
There seems to be a 15-second delay receiving incoming calls. In other words, the caller would of went through at least 6 rings, before receiving my first ring on the Diamond. Am I missing something here?
-Johnny

are you using stock rom and radio? if you are FLASH!

Are you sure about 15 sec delay?? Most people complaining about 3 sec delay. There is a tweaks program you can use called Tweaks2k2. You can disable the 3sec ringtone delay. Im pretty sure if you install it on your device you can check the checkbox called ''disable 15s rintone delay''

or try this...

neptunes50 said:
Are you sure about 15 sec delay?? Most people complaining about 3 sec delay. There is a tweaks program you can use called Tweaks2k2. You can disable the 3sec ringtone delay. Im pretty sure if you install it on your device you can check the checkbox called ''disable 15s rintone delay''
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Btw, What filetype are you using for yr ringtone?
I tried the tweaks2k2 tweak, and it seem to reduce the delays BETWEEN rings.. not diminish the first 3sec delay.
I'm using wma. Ya think wav would be betta?

Isn't this the common problem using the HTC phone skin? If you disable that it's supposed to make the delay non-existent. You can do it in Schaps Advanced Config I understand.

Cab
Blazeitup123 said:
or try this...
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Hi thanks what does this cab do, i mean the word loudest indiactes louder volume also?
Thanks
Dinesh

Thanks guys, I had got it down to 1 second now!
I installed the program and got it to come down to 4 seconds.
I converted my ringtone into a .wav format and moved it into the 'Ringtones' folder. No more 15-second delay!
-Johnny

I can confirm, after converting my ringtones to wav files and installing this patch, the 3 second delay is gone.
Working perfect !!!

Does anyone know exactly what this patch modifies so we can do it manually and track all the changes?
Or is it only the converted .wav files that is the big change?

I can also confirm that after you apply the patch and change the ringtone to .wav, the delay is gone!

@ Mask
I use mp3 files. When i call myself i took less than a second before ringing. Normally it takes 3 seconds. But i dont understand the 15sec delay..

text message custom tones?

hey all~
so this is my first post here, hope this is in the right thread (if not i apologize and ask the admins to plz move it?)
anyhows, i has a tytn2 (at&t tilt of course) its all upto date and all. i was wondering....i know i can set custom ring tones for contacts for when they call, is there any way (free way) to set custom tones for when somebody texts?
i had my old phone (motorolla rokr z6) set to do that and would like to have my new phone set that way too but i can't find how to or if its even possible anywhere....
thanks all
~j

ubuntujason said:
i know i can set custom ring tones for contacts for when they call,
is there any way (free way) to set custom tones for when somebody texts?
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Ok, I think I got two questions out of that test. J/K
1. Edit: Sorry about that. I didn't read properly.
2. To assign notification sounds. Start>Settings>Personal>Sounds&Notifications>Notifications. Open the Event: drop down, find the event, Open the Ring tone: select the sound, turn on Play sound, finished.
Notification sounds reside in the \Windows\ root folder of the device. I like to put ring tones into the \Windows\Rings\ folder. They work in other folders but I find the Rings folder neater than the root for example and thats what the Rings folder is meant for anyway.
Hope that works for you.

U cant assign different ringtones for text messages to contacts. For that u will probably need some 3rd party application.

hey all~
hurm, okay well if i can't then does anyone know of any 3rd party app that can do it? i know pcm can NOT do it for text's (but they can for calls) . . .
thanks for the help guys and gals
~j

try mortring. you can personalize rings for calls and sms according to individual or category.
although it's been slightly buggy since i upgraded to 6.1, it still does the job well enough.

somynex~
thanks ill google it right now
~j

Try photo contacts. You can assign text tones to individuals on it

hey all~
so igrabed mortringand installedit buthad no luck with it working :-( so i guess ill look into that other suggested program....
like i said it's not a big deal, just something i would likes (it shouldn't surprise anyone as my screen name should imply i'm a linux guy [ubuntu is a linux distro.] and i love everythiing tweaked as much as possible lol)
~j

sorry to hear that mortring didn't work. in WM6 and before it seems to intercept the call and then change the ring.
But in WM6.1 it seems to have to change the ringtone for each contact/category according to the ring i set it to, which can take a long time. the first time after i set the rings, thought my phone froze up. but actually it was just taking its time setting the rings for each contact (and takes a long time when one has a lot of contacts/categories).
anyway after the first couple days of freezes, it seems to work fine now and hasn't froze up on me since.

somynex~
maybe i'll give it another go then....i tried with my brothers contact info. changed his txt tone then had him txt me....maybe i needed to let it sit for longer to 'finish the change' . . .
thanks for the extra info
~j

Mikulec said:
U cant assign different ringtones for text messages to contacts. For that u will probably need some 3rd party application.
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OOOPS, I guess that teaches me to read the questions a bit more carefully. Sorry about that

WillardZ said:
OOOPS, I guess that teaches me to read the questions a bit more carefully. Sorry about that
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No problem mate.

Here's a post of mine from almost 4 years ago that you can use with Mortring (free) to make custom notifications for your contacts.
Okay I figured out how to create a custom notification/ringer.
1: go to http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php
And type in what you'd like for the notification or ring to say and then
download it after picking a voice. (keep in mind sometimes you have to purposely
misspell certain word to get them to be pronounced correctly. For example for DJ
I had to spell it as d j).
2: rename that file you downloaded into something you'd like.
3: move that .wav file to your devices /windows directory.
4: go to start - settings - sounds & notifications - notifications (select the
event you'd like to change the ring for and select the respectable audio file).
If using Mortring in step 4 assign that .wav for your contact(s).

dj~
wow thanks, from 4 years ago...kewl that u looked it up fo rme i appreciate it and will be off to create
~j

Of course.. then there's always Electricpocket Ringo. It lets u assign ringtones and sms tones individually, or to groups. The best I've used so far.

J_Kirk said:
Of course.. then there's always Electricpocket Ringo. It lets u assign ringtones and sms tones individually, or to groups. The best I've used so far.
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Free? I tried Ringo over a year ago and it slowed down my phone a lot.

hey all~
i got mortRing working! seems pretty good, works for sure. one thing though...it seems that everytime i get a text from someone whos got a personalized tone, that wmp opens to try to play the wav file (and go figure, wav=windows audio video...wmp says it can't play wavs lol)
i think i may have fixedn it with a registry tweak, have to wait till someone with a custom tone texts me back lol
~j

hey all~
ok so this question is probably for those who have or have used mortRing....everytime a custom notification comes my media player opens :s
i went in the registry and undid the default wmp handling of wav files (as the ringtones...err text tones lol that mortRing recognizes are wav's) but then it opened a dialouge saying it didn't know how to handle the wav file (nvm it played lol) ii changed the default to mort player but it still opens whenever one of the custom contacts text me....at least mort closes quicker then wmp...but still would be nice to get it to stop...
so any ideas? a registry hack (i'm comforatable doing that, even though im a linux guy i work on peoples win-slows computers....a LOT) anything?
thanks
~j

I have an older version of Mortring that doesn't have that problem.

DJ~
do you happen to know what version number you have? thanks
~j

New Text message - no sound

Hello all,
sorry for my bad english
Some how, my diamond doesnt makes alert sound when a new text message is recived. Every other event makes sounds perfectly.
I set it to make a sound and vibrate in the old winmo interface.
I found no option like this in diamond tweak or advanced config
(thos programs has only ringtone change option - and my diamond ring just fine. I used advanced config to set it to wake up when a new message arrives.
What can be the problem.

Same problem here, but with new MMS. SMS notification works normally.
MMS work with the new ROM.
But the MMS notification has no sound and no vibration, even if checked in the settings.

me again
I just found out that the same problem happens when I get a new Email message - the device makes lights but no sound even though I set it to at the events area in windows mobile settings. When I press the play buttin there it playes the sound perfectly.
HELP PLEASE

Had the same problem, I managed to set an inbuilt ringtone. Maybe it is not as good as my own, but at least I can hear anything. Search for it.

Is the Wake up from new SMS enabled?

it is enabled
maurophp said:
Is the Wake up from new SMS enabled?
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yes it is, but it does not seem to be working.
when i get a nes sms or email the phone just lights its round button.
and i am using a builtin ringtone. it calles Alert-Glass2

maurophp said:
Is the Wake up from new SMS enabled?
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where can i enable wake up on new SMS?

murata said:
where can i enable wake up on new SMS?
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you need diamond tweak for that - but as i said, it doesnt seem to work

help
ididid said:
Hello all,
sorry for my bad english
Some how, my diamond doesnt makes alert sound when a new text message is recived. Every other event makes sounds perfectly.
I set it to make a sound and vibrate in the old winmo interface.
I found no option like this in diamond tweak or advanced config
(thos programs has only ringtone change option - and my diamond ring just fine. I used advanced config to set it to wake up when a new message arrives.
What can be the problem.
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Please Help ME...

ididid said:
Please Help ME...
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I had problems with AZTOR rom and now i using Vic rom and i have no more problems with SMS.
maybe you can also try it.

rom cahnge
Cant change rom. If ill do it i will lose my importer warranty.

ididid said:
Cant change rom. If ill do it i will lose my importer warranty.
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could you tell us wich rom version you are using at the moment

I am using Alarm4 if this does matter.
Tried my procedure?
kosherpig said:
1. Open TF3D Settings tab
2. Choose Sounds
3. Toggle last option two times (so it goes back to your current passing another)
4. Click More (right softkey)
5. Go to the second tab
6. Choose New SMS sound
7. Select some inbuild ringtone
8. Click OK
9. Repeat steps 4-8 skipping step 7
10. Test it.
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me again
murata said:
could you tell us wich rom version you are using at the moment
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ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE
date: 7/10/08
ExtROM: 1.93.456.21

sorry for my bad english...
actually, i ever had this problem before, it is:
in the events area in windows mobile settings. if you press the play button, it playes the sound perfectly, but when a message is received, there is no alert sound...
that's because i changed the sms mode from "chat mode" to the traditional one (i just don't know how to express this, but i think you can understand) and when i change this back to normal, the sound comes back again
hope this can be helpful

Are these not working ringtones in MIDI format?
Just noticed setting a certain MIDI ringtone makes all MIDIs for this event fail.
(I switched to WMA and I am happier than with MID )

enable vibra
ididid said:
Hello all,
sorry for my bad english
Some how, my diamond doesnt makes alert sound when a new text message is recived. Every other event makes sounds perfectly.
I set it to make a sound and vibrate in the old winmo interface.
I found no option like this in diamond tweak or advanced config
(thos programs has only ringtone change option - and my diamond ring just fine. I used advanced config to set it to wake up when a new message arrives.
What can be the problem.
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TRY: settings --> sounds&notifications --> notifications (tab) --> Event: Messaging: New text message and check the "Vibrate" checkbox. Worked for me after updating rom 1.97 to 2.03