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HTC dialer very very slow

Why is the HTC Dialer very very slow. When i press a number, it takes time to show on the screen. So, i cant dial a number quickly. I need to press every digit individually and wait till it shows on the screen.
Is this normal??
HELP

Hmz dunno, don't have this problem.

Turn the sounds off in the options menu in the Phone application. Set the Keypad to 'Off' and it will speed up. No sounds but much quicker!

amruths said:
Why is the HTC Dialer very very slow. When i press a number, it takes time to show on the screen. So, i cant dial a number quickly. I need to press every digit individually and wait till it shows on the screen.
Is this normal??
HELP
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Disabling the smart dialing option increases the speed too (especially when you have many contacts stored).
open dialer -> menu -> smart dialing options -> deactivate
Greetz,
Hans Olo

It did speed up my dialer, but still not upto the mark. Isnt there a way to make it even more faster?

amruths said:
It did speed up my dialer, but still not upto the mark. Isnt there a way to make it even more faster?
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Hi:
FWIW, my HTC keypad is very fast. I have both smart dialing and sounds turned on. Maybe you could try a hard reset. Is it possible that something you have installed is somehow affecting the dialers speed?

Hi dudes
I had the same problem but using your tweaks, especially disabling keypad sound, solved it. Thx
Ciao

i have same problem
but when disable sound
still slow

for those of you haveing issues still, did you ever install Vibra? Vibra was an app that allowed the user to quickly change to vibrate but use of a hardware key.
If so, this is the problem, it messes up all the sound settings which in turn causes issues with the dialer response times...

You can also try to disable the dialer theme:
[HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin]
Enabled = 0

Disabling sound solved the issue on my TyTNII, ,even with a quite huge contact database.
Thanks!

smittyofdhs said:
for those of you haveing issues still, did you ever install Vibra? Vibra was an app that allowed the user to quickly change to vibrate but use of a hardware key.
If so, this is the problem, it messes up all the sound settings which in turn causes issues with the dialer response times...
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I had that problem, and that pesky program does not fix the registry even when you uninstall it. Luckily I had old registry backup and was able to look up the lines it messed with, and recover.
Gotta hate when little cabs like that can break your phone in such a bad way.
Lesson learned - always run registry backup before installing 3rd party apps and even Sprite Backup.

Summary Important Issues bout Diamond & Touchflo3D, [ UPDATED 17 June 2008 ]

First impression, EXTREMELY bad fingerprint magnet. I was expecting it to be like D810's fingerprint problem, but its much muh worse. However, the back cover seems to be a different kinda plastic glossy coating than D810, so i expect no peeling problems here.
Start up screen, after it install all necessary sys cabs, there's actually a short demo (video) on how to use the Touch interface. The old Touch didnt have that, justin writing in a manual..
The glass screen feels....like got some static attraction, so its totally not fun to scroll around with the finger. Well see how it is after putting on the screen protector
EDITED: Added Screenprotector, Touch feel is now MUCH better. Screenprotector is also of high quality. (thick and solid)
UPDATE on ICONS: Some games i insalled like Hexic and Warcraft 2, the icons in the start menu is totally screwed up, like, can see the shape of the icon, but not wat the icon is. It looks black and has strange lines. But not all games like this. Only some. I'm trying to figure out why. They're all meant for VGA. Hmm
Running the game once and performing a soft reset solves this problem.
UPDATE on TOUCH FLO 3D LAG: I've tried to mess around with Touch FLo 3D, see how much stress it can take. Handling it normally, placing my thumb at the bottom and moving it left to right, selecting what it want, and returning to the home screen, no problem at all. Now as you know besides sliding your thumb around, u can just CLICK it and what you want will appear. Example you're at TODAY screen, i click messages instead of susah go slide from TODAY to MESSAGES. Slight lag occurs when i do this (a tenth of a second? Probably loading time not really a "lag"). Now i tried ABUSING the system = Click on on messages, before messages load, i click Today, click Music, click Programs, click Internet, Click click click click. Basically i'm not letting ANYTHING load, just spamming clicks. A definite lag before what i last clicked finally appears on my screen (about 1- 1.5 seconds). Which is impressive, considering how i abused it like crazy. LOL. I honestly expected it to hang.
UPDATE ON MAPKING 2007: I have just tested it, and Mapking users will be glad to know that it supports the VGA screen on HTC Diamond, and GPS works flawlessly, despite worries that eGPS since its new, may not be recognized by Mapking
UPDATE ON CALL OF DUTY: Works absolutely awesome, NOT using minimal settings, i was able to play pretty well. NOTE: Tytn2 and Touch Cruise was NOT able to play due to heavy lag even with minimal settings. Game was perfectly fine, with except with just a small little, not lag, but looks like the rendering was a bit slow as i looked around, when i used hardkeys and stylus at the same time. NOTE: ALL pdas lag in gaming when using hardkeys and joystick at the same time. However, it was minimal, and call of duty was enjoyable to say the least. SO yes, it DOES have graphic accelerators. Proper benchmarks will be done when i have proper time.
UPDATE. SPB benchmark seems to hang. cant run it. hangs at testing word document.
UPDATE on Touch Flo 3D part 2: Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment...42&d=1202399126, thanks to schap, and customize File system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072. This gives drastic improvements in Touch Flo 3D.
UPDATE ON BATTERY REVIEW : I did this test, based on what a student (like me) would probably use. More sms than calls. Here's a rough estimate.
TOTAL HOURS BEFORE KONKING OUT TOTALLY = approximately 9 hours, give or take
TOTAL SMS-ES = 120
TOTAL TALK TIME = approximately 15-20 mins
TOTAL LIGHT GAMING TIME (Hexic) = 45 mins.
Its actually pretty impressive.
My verdict is that with backlight on "auto adjust" and with the dimlight dimming within seconds after not being used, there is a HUGE amount of power saving from running the VGA screen. Also, it could be possible that with its graphic accelerators, gaming also consumed less power than usual.
My Touch Cruise same amount of usage above lasted 11-12 hours
IMPORTANT UPDATE (regarding black icons): It appears that the cause of our ugly black icons is not our VGA screen, but Touch Flo 3D itself. Looks like its a bit buggy. So we'll have to wait for a proper rom update regarding it (or perhaps someone can come up with a registry fix). Don't believe me? switch off your Touch Flo 3D, and soft reset your PDA. All icons should turn back to normal. Also, with Touch Flo 3D off, you can expect better battery life, as well as a significant increase in speed for your pda.
UPDATE HTC Touch FLO 3D, another bug: There appears to be memory leak issues with Touch Flo 3D. The longer u use the less ram u'll appear to have. Will have to wait for rom update to fix all these bugs
My Blog : http://heretical-rantings.blogspot.com/2008/06/htc-touch-diamond-user-review.html
IMPORTANT UPDATE (bluetooth stack problem): It appears that after using Bluetooth A2dp, your pda will have "vibration non stop" as well as phone totally mute problems. This is reported by other members in XDA. I'll run a check up on the latest 1.37 rom and see if this is fixed, as well as other issues. Stay tuned.
UPDATE ON ROM 1.37.707.1
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: APPEARS SOLVED (doesnt go above 57% here, last time 70+%)
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
gimme 24 hours to test bluetooth stack/ sudden mute problem and memory leak issues

kudos on one of the few informative posts i have read on this new forum for touch diamond...

Nice summary.
Few questions.
1. COD - Can you please post your control settings here?
2. Do you know the actual registry change for changing the file system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072. I like to do this via registry. I couldnt find this info...
Thanks.
K

Nice summary Baronic, at least when i get my Diamond ill know what to look out for. Saying that, it could be that the UK spec Diamonds have been delayed because of these problems??. LAst i heard was that they were being held back because HTC wanted to apply a software update or something like that before they were released into the UK. Unless they are trying to stop us from hacking the phone ie cooked roms etc. I hope not or else i will be extremely angry as to why they would do such a thing.

@boinger, you're welcome
@Kraft, in COD there's a box to tick "low settings". I'm playing it with it unticked thats all. No other settings.
For reg edits, check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
@Spawn, I've no idea about UK sets, as i'm from Malaysia. However, here, we've just had a rom update yesterday, and i'll be flashing it tomorrow, and see if the main problem: Black icon and memory leak, has been solved.
I'll be updating my Blog, as well as here probably once i flash the new rom. I'll have to come up with a summary on the roms as well soon, which roms have the Touch Flo 3D problems. My blog is in my signature

Baronic;2307799
@Kraft said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265[/url]
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I was asking about control settings... What keys do u use... I find it hard to play without the keyboard ...
Also I am aware about the tweeking thread.
1. Boost TFL3D Performance --> Using Advanced Config, change File system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072
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I asked if you know the actual reg. change ...
K

I use:
Top left aim, top right stance, btm left swap weapon, btm right reload.
volume down key, "use"
Volume up key, pause, i would change stance button to grenade if i see fit.
actual reg edit? nope, i didnt bother to really explore and find out

I use:
Top left aim, top right stance, btm left swap weapon, btm right reload.
volume down key, "use"
Volume up key, pause, i would change stance button to grenade if i see fit.
actual reg edit? nope, i didnt bother to really explore and find out

Baronic said:
@boinger, you're welcome
@Spawn, I've no idea about UK sets, as i'm from Malaysia. However, here, we've just had a rom update yesterday, and i'll be flashing it tomorrow, and see if the main problem: Black icon and memory leak, has been solved.
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You already have a ROM update, did you find that on the HTC website in the HTC e-club? I just checked out the Hong KONG HTC region site and it has no ROM updates.

A question: doesn't the screen protector blur the display and therefore ruin the hi res of the device?

@save ferris, no, HTC doesnt seem to have the rom update, i'm going directly to the distributer for the rom update. though owners who bought their Touch DIamond today/yesterday would already have that update.
@pedmomd, no it doesnt blur the screen at all. its a clear screen protector

IMPORTANT UPDATE (bluetooth stack problem): It appears that after using Bluetooth A2dp, your pda will have "vibration non stop" as well as phone totally mute problems. This is reported by other members in XDA. I'll run a check up on the latest 1.37 rom and see if this is fixed, as well as other issues. Stay tuned.

Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.

Baronic said:
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
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agree on the mute phone after using the bluetooth

pedmond said:
A question: doesn't the screen protector blur the display and therefore ruin the hi res of the device?
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No. Its quite ok actualy...
But makes the Touchflow3D unusable for me... So I removed it....
K

keevy17 said:
agree on the mute phone after using the bluetooth
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maybe i did not understand the problem....but:
1. i put some music to play with my coreplayer and bt headphones.
2. after a few minutes i asked my little girl to call me from my home phone. the music stopped, i pushed the headphones button and was able to have a conversation.
3. hanged-up the call and the music start playing again.
4. repeated twice. everything OK!
is this the right experiment for your problem???

kukiriku, u must use HTC Player only to duplicate the problem

Can we have a dump of that latest rom plz ?
Baronic said:
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
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Baronic said:
kukiriku, u must use HTC Player only to duplicate the problem
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aaaahaaa...i thought you are blaiming the a2dp....OK, i'll test the htc player.

great post dude..
one more bug is
when using audio booster, after a while/charging or phone call, music played would be bassless.
Ways to fix it is to plug the headset in, disable audio booster, unplug and replug in the headset.

Function for Contacts is now video call after official rom upgrade ... HELP !!!

Hey Folks
I upgraded to the official Hong Kong ROM upgrade on my HTC Diamond & whilst impressed by the speed improvements I have a major bug that annoys the hell out of me & thus hope some genius reading this can help fix the problem
On the home tab using the "phone" icon it then shows recent calls. However the left hand button that used to show "contacts" now shows "video call". I never want to make a video call & contacts is far more useful .... but there is no obvious way to change the function
Hoping someone can help

Chill dude.
This ain't a bug, it's a feature.
Personally, I do find video-call usefull, but ill prefer "send SMS"
Do U really need contacts? You can use the keypad T9 to find the person U want to call easily...

Circle your finger around the middle button and it rips thru contacts!

kgb-agent said:
On the home tab using the "phone" icon it then shows recent calls. However the left hand button that used to show "contacts" now shows "video call". I never want to make a video call & contacts is far more useful .... but there is no obvious way to change the function
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Use your favorite registry editor to navigate to [HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila] and change the following values:
"HomeLSKPath=addrbook.lnk" 'that's the application you want to use
"HomeLSKText=Contacts" 'that's the text that will be displayed on the left soft key on your Home screen
Do a soft reset.
Now your Left Soft Key will display Contacts, so when you press it, you shoul go directly to your contacts. Enjoy!
I've changed mine to Comm Manager.

heretic said:
Use your favorite registry editor to navigate to [HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila] and change the following values:
"HomeLSKPath=addrbook.lnk" that's the application you want to use
"HomeLSKText=Contacts"
Now your Left Soft Key will display Contacts, so when you press it, you shoul go directly to your contacts. Enjoy!
I've changed mine to Comm Manager.
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Are those for the phone app or home sceen?

Blazeitup123 said:
Are those for the phone app or home sceen?
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Those are for the home screen (Home tab of Manila TF3D).

heretic said:
Those are for the home screen (Home tab of Manila TF3D).
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Do you know the keys for the phone app? I bet there are 100 people wanting those. I think that is what kgb-agent is looking for.

Blazeitup123 said:
Do you know the keys for the phone app? I bet there are 100 people wanting those. I think that is what kgb-agent is looking for.
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I don't have a clue how to change softkeys within the phone app, sorry. Looks like I have misread the original post...

Thanks Heretic & others
Yep ... me & 1000 others want to change the key in the phone app

With CT's rom version 4 if I tap Phone soft key on Today screen then tap the little phone icon between the video call and menu softkeys it removes the keypad and leaves me with last call and contacts list...

No ideas anyone .... it is really bugging me

For me i just disabled the phone skin with the Advanced Config tool. It reverts back to the old WM6 design. I still prefer that. Do note that once u do this, the vibration when a call connects is disabled.

Hey KGB-Agent, I have exactly the same problem...and it is bugging me as well! I upgraded my dutch ROM yesterday :-( Another problem I have is that when I look at my contacts the SIM contacts are not displayed, even when I configure this in Advanced Config Tool...HELP! Anyone else an idea how to fix???

Your contacts are opened when your in the phone app, just scroll! why do you want it to open another contacts process when its already there?!? up and down or as i already said circle the middle button with your finger

Hi Blaze,
Circling with my finger in the middle button doesn't work for me. Furthermore, with "Contacts" I could quickly scroll down with the Alphabet on the right to f.e. the letter Z. The way you recommand it takes me ages to get to the "Z"!
I called the HTC helpdesk, they advised me to do a Hard Reset. Of course...that didn't work...:-(

Go to start and choose contacts its the same screen.
I agree the videocall is a bad choice from the makers of this rom.
Most people do not use this kind of calls.
Grtzzz

I have the same issues with the loss of functionality Ries
I cant believe there are not more complaints
I emailed HTC 4 days ago with no answer :<

@kgb-agent: I phoned the helpdesk. They said I had to do a hard-reset!?! I couldn't believe it, but okay, I tried it...and what do you think: I still have the problem! :-( I guess we have to live with it...bad choice from the developers...

same problem
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Two things:
1) why don't people use the smart dialling feature? this is where when in the phone keypad, you just spell out your contact using the alphanumeric keypad (it uses T9 to search) and it displays your search results in real time at the top of the dial pad... MUCH easier than the contacts screen - try it.
2) circling the middle button with your finger does NOT work for me, i have no idea how that is working for you since the diamond is not meant to be able to scroll using that 'wheel' unless you have installed some 3rd party software for it, or its unique to your ROM/region.

Dialer off right after end of call- HOW to do this??

Hi,
I've been looking for the answer but couldn't find any. This is very annoying for me.I use S2u2 and when I pick up an incoming call with a button or slider after the call the dialer is still on and Phone locks automatically(with dialer on). I have to unlock S2U2 close dialer and lock the phone again- this drives me crazy. Any solution will be appreciated.Thanks in advance for any help with this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450146&page=4 -ths doesn't work for me

Does really nobody drive this crazy?

pegaz said:
Does really nobody drive this crazy?
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Me too..
But still no solution..

Yeah it annoys me too. I use S2U2 as well and I hate that both the dialer and the contact list don't close after I made a call or receive one. The registry solution from the other thread doesn't work with the TF3D dialer.

pegaz said:
Hi,
I've been looking for the answer but couldn't find any. This is very annoying for me.I use S2u2 and when I pick up an incoming call with a button or slider after the call the dialer is still on and Phone locks automatically(with dialer on). I have to unlock S2U2 close dialer and lock the phone again- this drives me crazy. Any solution will be appreciated.Thanks in advance for any help with this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450146&page=4 -ths doesn't work for me
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Have you tried Advanced Config > Phone > End Call Delay? I haven't myself so I don't know if it's the time it takes to disconnect the call or the time it takes to close the dialer. Worth a try.

No, that's the time it takes for the phone to end your call after pressing the end-call button. Which is ridiculous, when I press the button I want to end it immediately .

I agree. Of what purpose could it possibly be to delay the end of the call?!? I mean if you could recover from accidentally hitting the end key that would be one thing. But you can't so any delay is just plain stupid AFAICT.
You can also use Advanced Config to turn off the silly animations and sounds at start up or shutdown. They also do little else but make start up and shutdown longer...

I've switched to the WM default dialer now, as was suggested in this thread, let's see if it it works for me. I liked the HTC dialer though .

HertogJanNL said:
I've switched to the WM default dialer now, as was suggested in this thread, let's see if it it works for me. I liked the HTC dialer though .
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I've also tried that and it works but that's not a solution.WMs dialer sucks, keys are small and poor responsible for touch.Anyway I don't like WMs dialer. I don't understand why this reg tweak works with some roms but with some doesn't ;/. Hope it will be fixed in next official rom or somebody from XDA will find a solution for this annoying issue.As U guys sad when I press end button i wanna end immediately ,not in 5 sec!.

I now use the phonecanvas cab for my Diamond, so I don't have to use S2U2 anymore. But I believe this only works with the HTC dialer.
So does anyone have a solution for this problem? I really need it

"slide down for more options"

Hello, im using miri 8.1 premium and i want to remove the "slide down for more options" when i make a call... is this possible??

+1 i hate it!

+1, i really don't like it

yes! Me too, it is the most useless junk ever thought by the HTC ppl! It is annoying, please someone please help us remove it!

And why don't you ask miri for it in is thread instead opening a new one???

speed200 said:
And why don't you ask miri for it in is thread instead opening a new one???
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Because its not just in Miri's rom, its in more or less all of them now

I want it back to my ROM badly. where is the cab?

+1
i also do not need it, and would like to know how to turn it off

+1.
Its a pain to mute/un-mute during conf calls with this on.
Anyone?

For those users interested to find a solution to disable the curtain, here is the package. Could be a dll or a registry key.

Found a solution
Found a solution with reg key.
Goto HKLM\Software\HTC\Phone\Cover
There is a DWORD value ResumeInterval set to 5000 (5secs).
I changed it 300000 (5mins) and soft-reset.
Now the call starts with slider on, you only need to slide down once. Then it will wait for 5 mins of inactivity to come back up.
Probably higher values can be used, but 5mins should work for me.
As always, modify registry at your own risk...

sank27 said:
Found a solution with reg key.
Goto HKLM\Software\HTC\Phone\Cover
There is a DWORD value ResumeInterval set to 5000 (5secs).
I changed it 300000 (5mins) and soft-reset.
Now the call starts with slider on, you only need to slide down once. Then it will wait for 5 mins of inactivity to come back up.
Probably higher values can be used, but 5mins should work for me.
As always, modify registry at your own risk...
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Maybe you can set it to 0 (zero) to disable it?

kwbr said:
Maybe you can set it to 0 (zero) to disable it?
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i tried that actually but it still show up
i also tried to delete the whole key "cover"
no luck

solaris10 said:
I want it back to my ROM badly. where is the cab?
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Me too. any cab availabale?

I must admit the Topaz dialer (as nice as it may look) sux! What was wrong with the standard HTC HD dialer? it supported landscape and was functional.

homer285 said:
I must admit the Topaz dialer (as nice as it may look) sux! What was wrong with the standard HTC HD dialer? it supported landscape and was functional.
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nothing wrong with it. just when i call, i press the phone with my face and something happens in middle - hang down, second call and so on...

homer285 said:
I must admit the Topaz dialer (as nice as it may look) sux! What was wrong with the standard HTC HD dialer? it supported landscape and was functional.
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contact managment sux on the standard one
and in-call options are better on the new ones
tiburone said:
nothing wrong with it. just when i call, i press the phone with my face and something happens in middle - hang down, second call and so on...
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i assume you like the curtain and i'm glad for you, others don't
maybe we use this and just don't need an extra step of protection
and we want to find a way to turn it off

Sir.B said:
contact managment sux on the standard one
and in-call options are better on the new ones
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I had zero issue with the standard one, it was functional and did exactly as one would expect. Topaz dialer hides all options instantly making it absolutely dangerous to try and activate loudspeaker whilst driving . The other issue is landscape view, if using any rotate screen app and having the device in landscape (ie. whilst using GPS apps etc) and receiving a call there is no dialer shown at all!
Surely I am not the only one to notice these problems?

thanks man it helped

Sir.B said:
contact managment sux on the standard one
and in-call options are better on the new ones
i assume you like the curtain and i'm glad for you, others don't
maybe we use this and just don't need an extra step of protection
and we want to find a way to turn it off
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thank's. I'll try that - it looks ok.
But no i have a problem - remove the curtain...