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hi hello to everybody. i need to know many things. maybe an expert will help me/guide me to the links i needed or maybe reply to me. my gf bought me an o2 xda lli last june. it works fine for me all this time and i have no prob about it. i somehow fried the cradle by inserting a bad adaptor to it and it wont work. so i don't do any backups yet or whatsoever from the pc. all i had was the 1 GB sdcard. i bought an infra red adapter recently and was wondering on trying updated roms with all the hype regarding on better performances as you guys have confessed. now unto my question:
1.do i need to upgrade my rom
XDA IIi
Rom Version: 1.11.00 WWE
Rom Date: 01/27/05
Radio Version: 1.00.00
Protocol Version: 1337.39
ExtROM Version: 1.11.923 WWE
since it never gave me a headache as of yet? honest opinion only please
2.how will i do it? any step by step instruction perhaps since i am very new to this.
3.will i be able to return back to my original rom if i happened not to like the upgrades?
4.again is it safe or worth risking it?any step by step procedure to go back to my old rom would be a big help
what do you think guys?
In my opinion you don't need to update your device! And if I know it right there isn't an update over 1.11.00!
Hi MacGuyver first-of-all Welcome to the XDA community. You have mentioned that you have already burnt-up your cradle, and then have you arranged another yet? Because once you will run-out of the battery completely then you will loose all the information as your XDA will reset to its default position.
As far as the concern about the ROM you have got the latest ROM but I think this Rom is the default rom from the manufacturer, I am using the same rom as well but the edited version (you can see in picture), edited means few features have been altered from the original rom e.g. All the O2’s crap has been deleted and by that the system is using less CPU power. I can help you out if you want that Rom. I am a big admirer of the SPB softwares as they are light and accurate (try the link below) and I am using nearly all of their softwares (pictures attached).
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/?en
Sidd
One suggestion would be to check out ebay and some of the other online sites for a replacement cradle and power supply, then you will at least have full connectivity to the computer.
thanks for the warm welcome guys. as you can see i live in the philippines and i am away from the metropolis for the moment till the end of the year. there are no cradles for sale right now at this town. so i might end up buying it by january when i return to work. anyways i have seek help from a local cell shop and the dude there gave me this charger which cost me about 10dollars just to have the unit charged. it was a modified nokia charger, but it gets the job done, so i'm guessing that the infra red device i bought will be of no help for connectivity for my Alpine? actually i never tried it yet with the alpine, because i treasure this baby so much don't want to mess or destriy it and all.
i do consider upgrading the camera though since it looks so dusty. and yes i want to rid it of the O2 stuff as well. so far i am happy with it's performance. got few more questions to ask.
1. by fixing the camera, do i really need to have an entirely new rom on the unit?
2.judging by what you guys said, updating the rom using with the infra red device is not adviseable, or it can be done?
3.do people on ebay really can be trusted sending stuff to remote places like the philippines if i go shopping from there?
thank you and i am very much enjoying my stay here guys
Hey a fellow countryman!
There is a shop that sells XDA series Phones and accessories. It's not a specialty shop but it is the only one in the country. If I remember correctly it is called Brightpoint, located in Araneta Mall.
Been there once, I kinda broke the phone and had to have it reflashedd with the original ROM.
First of regarding "upgrading" the ROM, only the Extended Rom can be manipulated.
The radio version has a newer version, v1.04. Don't know the exact difference and the O2 website doesn't give it to Asian XDA owners (been checking and no upgrades for us in this part of the world).
The WWE ROM is still the same thing as far as I have learned. Although you can change it for another language (Don't know how but a lot of people have been requesting the localized version of the ROMs for their country).
One method of taking out the O2 stuff (without having to reflash) to relieve more memory would be to cancel the installation after a hard reset. It is a bit tedious since the installs are somewhat fast and at times you might cancel the installation of an important program!
Plus, our ExtROM also has the keys and screen locked during installation.
On the other hand you can modify your ExtROM to not install the O2 stuff. That would need a cradle (as far as I have experienced).
Keep reading the forums out there to check if you really want to change your ROM or not.
And if you do want to change your ROM, I also learned from these forums how to do it. Also, one poster gave a website that has it as a step by step. It's not anymore updated (the thread) but is still very useful.
On my next post I'll answer your next questions as long as I am sure of the answers...
MacGuyver said:
thanks for the warm welcome guys. as you can see i live in the philippines and i am away from the metropolis for the moment till the end of the year. there are no cradles for sale right now at this town. so i might end up buying it by january when i return to work. anyways i have seek help from a local cell shop and the dude there gave me this charger which cost me about 10dollars just to have the unit charged. it was a modified nokia charger, but it gets the job done, so i'm guessing that the infra red device i bought will be of no help for connectivity for my Alpine? actually i never tried it yet with the alpine, because i treasure this baby so much don't want to mess or destriy it and all.
i do consider upgrading the camera though since it looks so dusty. and yes i want to rid it of the O2 stuff as well. so far i am happy with it's performance. got few more questions to ask.
1. by fixing the camera, do i really need to have an entirely new rom on the unit?
2.judging by what you guys said, updating the rom using with the infra red device is not adviseable, or it can be done?
3.do people on ebay really can be trusted sending stuff to remote places like the philippines if i go shopping from there?
thank you and i am very much enjoying my stay here guys
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Answers to questions:
1. As far as I have learned, the camera fix is a CAB installer inside the ExtROM. More like a patch installer. A new ROM isn't needed unless you want the patch to automatically install after a hard reset.
A copy of the CAB file is just what you need.
If you're thinking of grabbing the camera patch posted here, you'll need to open up the ExtROM file (uploaded here) to get it.
2. I haven't used IR yet but I have had a VERY SLOW experience with it. It took me 20+minutes to receive a 1MB file. (haven't checked my settings, it might have caused the slow transfer)
The ROM upgrades are approx. 50MB total.
From my point of view it's better to go for the cradle.
3. There is the ebay philippines website. Although the cradle doesn't get sold separately there.
As for international ebay, you do shoulder the cost of shipping and would also pay additional if customs over here categorized it as taxable goods.
Try checking out Brightpoint at Araneta Mall sometime, they might have the cradle there as a separate item.
Goodluck and don't forget to backup your old ROM before upgrading!
wow thanks a lot JP2005. that was very informative. yep i heard about brightpoint too. actually i have been there i think last year. my phone came from japan but it is in english. after reading your post i have changed my mind regarding upgrading the rom for the moment, maybe in the future but not now.
i am also interested at this cab file installer for the camera to somehow make it look a bit presentable, if you can fill me in the details or anybody around here to show me some links to it that would be much appreciated. anyways i have printed out the instructions i thought might came handy to me regarding guides. thanks you again good day
can any good soul upload an asian rom [factory default] .nbf file to the server? you know the file being used to backed up in the memory card. thanks
also if i just run the cab files inside the zips of the rom upgrade, will it work or crash? for example the camera fix?
MacGuyver said:
can any good soul upload an asian rom [factory default] .nbf file to the server? you know the file being used to backed up in the memory card. thanks
also if i just run the cab files inside the zips of the rom upgrade, will it work or crash? for example the camera fix?
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Elo...
I've managed to backup the original ROM sold for the Philippines via the SD card backup.
Unfortunately, it takes the same space as the capacity of the SD card used.
I used the 128MB SD card and have backed up 128MB of ROM data (not the actual size but it uses the whole card).
I'll try to upload it via the download service websites when I have the time. Will PM you or post in this thread the link.
Also, as far as I know you can only flash this file via SD card and bootloader mode.
The necessary programs and instructions I'll try to pack in within an archive file so you don't have to look around for it.
thank you so very much. you just made a pinoy happy
Sorry for late reply...
Here's the link:
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3602200/AsiaIIiBACKUP.rar.html
The file is in .rar format and is 83MB...
Good luck with your upgrades!
does running the camera patch.cab file alone damages the OS of a pocket PC?
MacGuyver said:
does running the camera patch.cab file alone damages the OS of a pocket PC?
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I don't think the camera patch will affect the OS...
The deepest it can tamper is the registry (as far as I know). It creates the required parameters for the camera to operate.
So I think the camera patch will probably do some fixes to the camera (prog) registry...
thanks for the reply. but you are still not very sure about this yet? i am planning on extracting the camera fix from Pugs rom and running it as a cab file fom the ppc. i am still trying to know if my proceedure will work or fail
MacGuyver said:
thanks for the reply. but you are still not very sure about this yet? i am planning on extracting the camera fix from Pugs rom and running it as a cab file fom the ppc. i am still trying to know if my proceedure will work or fail
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This probably won't hurt the system...
I've tried PUG's ROM (the whole package) and my Alpine didn't go haywire.
Everything was fine but I kinda missed the rotatescreen icon and didn't know how to let it show via registry edit...
So I went and restored the original ROM and just upgraded the Radio from PUG's ROM and cooked my own Ext_ROM.
you just run the .cab file of the radio? if so that answers question of running these fixes while everything is installed
MacGuyver said:
you just run the .cab file of the radio? if so that answers question of running these fixes while everything is installed
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nope, the radio is flashed...
I just renamed the ms_.nbf and nk.nbf files so they won't flash together with the radio...
thanks a bunch. it clears up everything.
i guess after i do the radio then i have to get sun/globe/smart configs too since they have UK once and that doesn't include our telcos.
MacGuyver said:
thanks a bunch. it clears up everything.
i guess after i do the radio then i have to get sun/globe/smart configs too since they have UK once and that doesn't include our telcos.
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If you like I can give you the autoconfig files for our networks.
Hi all, first post on this site so bear with me. I have been reading all the posts regarding upgrading/changing ROM's from original HTC or carrier ROM to tweaked ROM's etc. The message can get quite confusing so before I take the plunge I'm hoping someone can clear something up for me. I have the Orange (UK) branded TyTnII (Kaiser?) and would like to have the original HTC ROM instead. I have already downloaded this from elsewhere on the forum. I am guessing that this will also change the current radio ROM. Some posts indicate that you must have the phone unlocked before doing this and others that you just need to install the hard SPL to change the ROM. The last thing I want is to have a locked phone, so could anyone advise which of two claims are correct?
You must use hardSPl and then you can flash every rom you want ...
TQM
1. Install HardSPL
2. ...you can install all the ROM you want !
If you flash the radio, then your orange phone will be locked, and will cost you to get it unlocked. I made this mistake, lucky for me, Orange love me so much they sent me a new one
With the new one, I have flashed roms, just make sure they don't change the radio, and you'll be fine.
Ps. You still need to flash HardSPL first.
Ran hard SPL, then ran the HTC ROM now phone is sim locked, which is what I feared. Where can I get the unlock code from? Would like ASAP, Orange take around 2 weeks to provide this.
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
This site didn't work for me, I contacted them, and they're aware of the problem, and are working on a fix, it has worked for the majority of people though, and its what everyone else recommends, it'll cost your £20.
Thanks for the quick response, I have followed the instructions on the web site but phone will not connect to active sync as it reports it is locked. Any suggestions?
When mine was locked, it would still connect to activesync, then when I ran their software, it'd crash active-sync and reboot my phone.
I don't know how to get your phone to connect to active-sync, but it can be done, perhaps someone else has a suggestion?
A hard reset has allowed my phone to connect to active sync (phew!) Just waiting for the code. I will let you know how it goes
Recieved unlock code, all now working again, thank goodness. The HTC ROM is an improvement over the Orange one so worthwhile doing. A big thank you to everyone who was kind enough to help out
Glad to hear you got it working
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Recieved unlock code, all now working again, thank goodness. The HTC ROM is an improvement over the Orange one so worthwhile doing. A big thank you to everyone who was kind enough to help out
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I've just upgraded from a hermes which I hardSPL'd without any issues, so I have previous experiance with flashing roms however I've been having problems installing hardSPL on my tytnII and i keep getting a white screen ?
has anybody had any issues with the orange 1.81.61.2 WWE Rom Version and HardSPL.
i've read a number of posts with regards the "alternative" methods have all resulted in the same "white Screen".
Any help would be appriciated because i HATE the Orange icons.
jdennington ..... how are you finding the original HTC Rom compaired to the "Oranged" version ??
I used the methods described here, they worked for me when I had the same issue you did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
jdennington:
Just wondered what difference you noticed changing from Orange to HTC ROM, apart from the cosmetic ones. By changing menu options, installing multitudinous cab files and tweaking various settings, I have made it such that you would be hard pressed to find any sign of Orange on my phone. As such, i have not bothered with a ROM flash.
Just wondered if you have noticed any performance gains from the flash, or is it just the cosmetic gain you were after?
HTC ROM Tytn II
Hi, looks as though I'm in the same boat but in Australia. My HTC Tytn II was purchased in Hong Kong and now I get an error when trying to install TomTom 6 that says incorrect ROM version? I have blackberry running as well (don't know if that interferes or not). Anyway, does it mean I have to change my ROM to original HTC Tytn II ROM to avoid the Hong Kong version (they told me it was the English version though) and other things work. Please help as I'm out of my depth here.
Annie
anyone knows about schaps_wm6pro_kaiser_4.22_full
Thanks
fisha21
I cant say I have noticed any improvement with response now that the HTC ROM is loaded. However there are a few applications that were not on the Orange ROM that I now have. The look and feel of the phone seems so much better, oh and this morning was the first time I was able to hear a caller whilst using a bluetooth hands free ear piece. I'm not a fan of the cooked ROM's but thats a personal preference, from what I read, there are some very successful ones out there giving a lot of users a much improved Kaiser.
How to Unlock Kaiser
Hi Everybody, I already ran the HardSPL on my Kaiser (which is from Orange). Right now I'm in Colombia but I don't really know how to get the new ROM and how do I do to charge it into the PDA. Of course, my fear is that it is SIM locked. Where can I get the htc ROM and the instructions to load it? THANX
Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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There is advice on this in the wiki. Alternatively you can follow the start of cRaCKwHoRe's guide below in my signature. It'll help you restore stock rom & radio
thanx man i ll give it a try once i get home
itsjatt5 said:
Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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Do you have Bluetooth enabled when trying? If so, try disabling it and checking again. There is an issue with some ROM's not liking the settings, there are a few threads on what to change to enable it to work fine though.
No m8 the blue tooth is off and i have tried all sort of things...
some how it all started working now...
its just one of those windows things....where logic fails
thanx for the replies
just make sure a standard windows 6.1 HTC or Orange rom is on the phone and send it back - i've had no problems doing this even with a custom SPL version on there
I just sent my handset back with Duttys ROM on it
I dont think Orange are organised enough to bother chasing you up about it
It would only get picked up when they get the phone back to engineering - I doubt they even turn the phones on - they just flash them with their ROM as a first step. Even if it did get discovered - im sure they arent sophisticated enough to trace it back to you - and even if they did trace it back - what are they going to do then ?? send it back to you ??
Is all well saying this, but I do know someone who sent their phone back with an earlier dutty rom version and they refused to fix it as he had broken warranty.
My honest advice is don't take chances. Would you take the same risks with your house or car? Bare in mind the cost of the HD. Its straight forward to revert back to stock roms anyhow. Takes less than 10 mins for reassurance
When I had the Orange Tytn 2, I had 3 replacements from Orange and when I sent the faulty phones back, I left the custom ROM installed with the Hard SPL on it, Orange never complained.
I would just send it back as is.
Radeon123 said:
When I had the Orange Tytn 2, I had 3 replacements from Orange and when I sent the faulty phones back, I left the custom ROM installed with the Hard SPL on it, Orange never complained.
I would just send it back as is.
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I'm just highlighting the risks so he can make an informed decision knowing both sides.
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I'm just highlighting the risks so he can make an informed decision knowing both sides.
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I appreciate your comment and im quite amazed - I wonder did your friend TELL them in advance that he had a custom Rom ?
I'm only saying that because Ive never heard of anyone having this problem in the past - in fact I sent back my old S710 at least 3 times under warranty and they never said a word plus now my touch HD
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I appreciate your comment and im quite amazed - I wonder did your friend TELL them in advance that he had a custom Rom ?
I'm only saying that because Ive never heard of anyone having this problem in the past - in fact I sent back my old S710 at least 3 times under warranty and they never said a word plus now my touch HD
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I don't believe he would have been stupid enough to mention this, but to be honest I never asked him that.
IMO operators including Orange are aware of this site and realise they can't live without it. Maybe he was just unlucky. I've never had to return my device and if I ever had to, for the time it takes, I'd probably restore stock rom, but thats just me.
I got to read all 1000+ posts on ways to un-brick wizard devices which are mainly intended for G4 users . And the claims that G3 never bricks. However I couldnt see an effective mean to un-brick it , there was an attempt that made it to sticky that should be realy removed as it failed and no one is interested in carrying on with it (a sad story realy , you have to read 200+ posts to get there).
Now the question is , what is a brick ?
a brick is a device that wont power up through any mean nutral or based on a back door (ex: Camera+Power , Send+Power , End+Power, Com+Speed Dial+Power.. etc) so to note , if your device can wake up at any of these methodes , it is not a brick. It would rather be fixed easily.
How would a device reach such state ?
Hardware fault , the device got physicaly damaged.
Software fault , the device lost its IMEI (the device serial number , would survive if corrupted only if IMEI figure is of same number of digits).
How would a device lose its IMEI ?
IMEI of wizard device is written within same memory that holds the SPL/IPL (device bios in pc language), which could easily be lost in case of flashing a G3 SPL/IPL on a G4 board since the memory address of the G4 IMEI is different to that of G3 and would be over-written by G3 SPL/IPL.
Would this happen to G3 devices too ?
It is rare since no G4 (SPL/IPL) roms are released except from carriers and they are very cautious at reviewing device ids (another name for IMEI when it comes to G4 cause G4 was specificaly designed to be a locked phone.
Then would a G3 be bricked ?
Yes , current alteration/failier during the writing phase of the SPL/IPL would lead to corruption of such memory. also faulty batteries can get the device there on the long run.
Can the devices be fixed ?
Ever heard of cloneing ? If you can clone 2 device memories then you can get it to un-brick as simple as that , only both devices are going to have the same IMEI which can be fixed later via IMEI changing utilities.
What's the problem then ?
How can you access the device if it wont even start ? there is a need to communicate with the device and at which , one thread suggested finding the test points of the mother board so that they would use it to write a valied IPL/SPL memory dump to the IPL/SPL memory.
So ?
This process relies heavily on true understanding of Wizard board and sad enough it has to be leaked and not acquired (not unless we are with an extra ordinary mentality)
Does this mean a brick is dead ?
Ok can you get the board replaced in a first / second / third party shop ? if so then you saved your self a load of hassel , as would you realy build up a cable interface ? and where would you get a valied memory dump ? and what software to use to communicate with a wizard board ?
So you see , the wizard is 7 years old now , and its hard to assume that such data would be leaked atm as it wasnt leaked back when the wizard was a star. so yes , too bad you will have to buy a board .. or there is someone who can prove me wrong .. cheers
I've got a Sprint Touch Diamond with WM6.1 that's a year old. Can I download WM6.5 and have it work on my phone? Is there a possibility that it will damage my phone? I'm afraid that if I install WM6.5 and update the ROM (of whatever else needs to be done) that I'll mess my phone up...
Sorry to ask, but I've never updated the ROM or anything like that, so this is all new to me. I've added in a few small programs from here and gotten some good wallpaper photos.
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I've got a Sprint Touch Diamond with WM6.1 that's a year old. Can I download WM6.5 and have it work on my phone? Is there a possibility that it will damage my phone? I'm afraid that if I install WM6.5 and update the ROM (of whatever else needs to be done) that I'll mess my phone up...
Sorry to ask, but I've never updated the ROM or anything like that, so this is all new to me. I've added in a few small programs from here and gotten some good wallpaper photos.
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yes and No my friend. you won't screw-up your phone as long as you follow the tutorials for unlocking & flashing. WM6.5 by itself can't do any harm to your phone.
but you can damage your phone if you flash a ROM( 6.1-6.5) from other device. specially with the diamond people may get confused because there are two different models (gsm/cdma). ie if yoy flash a gsm rom into a cdma phone for sure you'll brick it. both are diamonds but there are totally different hardware.
this forum is for diamond-cdma models also call Victor so you can unlock/flash a 6.5 rom into your phone without any problem if your phone is a diamond-cdma phone (without sim).
read this great tutorial:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36062
regards
Another thing, it might seem difficult at first, but it will become easy as time goes on. I have Windows Mobile 6.5 on my HTC Touch Diamond, and I'm on Sprint, so I just want to let you know yes, it's possible. =]
My phone is BELL HTC TOUCH DIAMOND (CDMA). My only question is: can I go back?
Yes, just unlock your phone.
You can go back to the Stock ROM if needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578478
6.5 on Diamond
My phone is UK T-mobile MDAC diamond will 6.5 roms work init
?