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I'm having problems running the ROM upgrade by iMate. I keep getting Error 101 connection error, and I had grown to assume this was a problem relating to running from Virtual PC on a Mac rather than a real PC.
Today I at last managed to get access to a PC running Windows XP, activesync 3.7.1, and got exactly the same problem. I tried it several times.
I'm beginning to wonder if any of my past failed attempts on my mac have done something to the phone that is preventing it from being controlled properly by the ROM upgrade software?
Is there anything more than a hard reset to take the device back to factory settings?
Please - if anyone can help me get this sorted I'd be really grateful. The device is just too unreliable in it's current state, and I just cannot manage to get the ROM upgrade working. It's just unbelievably frustrating!
A hard reset will take the device to the last rom upgrade.
Now in your case this could be the failed rom upgrade which you did over the mac. You would have to look at the device info to check that.
If I was you I would do a rom upgrade of a PC and not off a mac, not that I have anything agaist macs (apart from ...) Its just that I know it works of a pc.
I tried a ROM upgrade from a PC this morning and it didn't work. It kept reseting the device, then said Error 101 connection error (even though it was connnecting fine to Activesync 3.7.1).
I've made a little progress since then. I've pressed power-reset-record to put it into the 'bootloader'? and this allows the installer to go one step further and says installing the radio rom (but never gets beyond 0%). I now get the error 114.
Now that I've got this far, I will have another go with a PC on Monday and see if that makes any difference.
I've just bought the SE K700i which I hope will be a little more reliable. I really just want to get the PDA2K upgraded so it's in a fit state to sell, and perhaps I might even consider keeping it if the ROM makes a radical difference to reliability. It's so nice to go back to just using iSync with the K700i without go-between software and Virtual PC and all that hassle. My plan is to use the K700i until something comes along that catches my attention (I'm still not convinced by the Treo 650 or P910, and I wont forget my experience of Pocket PC for a while!).
If I may add my experience on similar situation, I got a device which was upgraded using a wrong ROM file, and now it ended up with no radio and no operator ID :shock: ... and can't accept "standard" ROM upgrade ... I managed to be able to upgrade the ROM or Ext ROM individually by using null operator ID ... but when it comes to Radio upgrade it doesn't start at all giving failure.
Biso007
So what is the story if you let the device drain down and then take out the battery. Would a Normal offical update not work then.
I have yet to read anything about were on the device the Opid is coded in the hardware. What I know is that the ndf have the opcode in the header and this is checked against the getdevicedata.
I have had check for the opcode in regedit with no luck. (this I some what expected as I did not feel that it is part of the OS).
anybody have a better understanding on that issue?
when I run getdevicedata.exe I get nothing except "PH20B" ... so I used NULL opid to upgrade ROM and Ext ROM ... but this trick didn't work with the Radio part ... more over, I tried the trick of draining the battery down ... it worked only once and the radio is back (I don't know how!!) however, with the last reset after the upgrade the Radio is gone again!!
My suggestion so far is that the Radio part is there but it's inactive due to a problem with the charging circute ... and since the Radio is the 1st stage of the upgrade, it holds the whole process failed.
maybe someone with solid experience with the device design itself can shed more light on this issue.
Hum!
Well what I know about the radio is that it is Lang independent, which means what ever check is run on the upgrade it does not look for the lan code.
Further it must check against the radio type as this is part of the config file that is in the upgrade.
I know that a hardreset will load what ever file is around (so it must be stored in the orignal format on the device, then loaded on hardreset). This seems not to be true for the EXTrom as this seems to be extracted as files on the device (thus you can flush it).
So we have a hardcored opid somewere on the device that now shows zero for you. What was the shipped version of it. Have you tried a ship.exe from your original device without using the xda-tools.
Can you tried a radio only upgrade and used your shipped opid in the fix.bat (maybe after a battery drain again)
Seems a shame to have a paper wheight and not a phone.
Crossing my fingers, but now it worked!! :lol:
The only additional action I took this time is to take the battery out and close the bottome notch which I believe has something to do with the backup battery.
When the device restarted, the Radio part is back with the original version, IMEI and call durations which confirms my idea that the Radio part was always there but blocked by a power charging issue.
Update [27/2/2005 6:40 pm GMT +2]:
I checked the devicedata.txt file and it has nothing except "PH20B" ... this means for me that this device will never accept any official ROM upgrade in the future ... and doing a hard reset is a potential risk to loose the Radio again :?
i installed a wm6 rom in my phone and reset it.but may phon no turn on.an no conect with active sync and no conect with adaptor.
on of my friend say to me that my k-jam flash is damaged and in my country cant service it.
and say to me that i want your forum for solve this problem.
olease help me...............
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You may be flashing a G3 ROM to a G4 device. If you device can't even charge, then it is the case. It is a brick and not repairable by your own.
You could try buying a device from eBay with a broken LCD and using it's motherboard in your phone. All the Wizard models have the same motherboard. This is what I had to do when I bricked mine!
i need for JTAG
my device ic-flash is full out, and i must JTAG my device.
please help me about JTAG process and describ JTAG with pictures for me.
thank all
JTAG is still not achievable,its not possible yet.many have tried to do it.
Take my advice,sell it for parts and get a new device.
Mods ,plz close this thread.
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Best way is to buy an broken LCD wizard from ebay or anyother site and then replace its LCD with your Wizards LCD, but try buying a G3 Wizard becoz its "Easy to Cook and Easy to Eat".
hey im new to the forums and just got my htc diamond and flashed the hard-spl mfg 1.24 i think on it, and then belite's english ROM. but does doing any of this void any warranty issues ? i got my htc in taiwan and got it from the telephone company. it has a two year warranty 1 year with the company and 1 year with htc or senao or something.
any answers would be helpful . or any links to past threads as i have no idea how to look XD.
Well ,
In a nutshell yes.
You can though , re SPL your device to the manufacturers supplied as simply as you SPL'd with the one you have.
There are loads of ROMS on here that are the shipped ones . My advice would be to download and save somewhere on your pc. Obviously if you have a hardware issue and still can use the device then reflash and then replace the original SPL. If however your unit is dead then this could pan out one of two ways . They will just replace your device and throw the other away which is good . Or they replace something power up and see that you have a diffrent SPL and then I think some questions would be raised. Including a bill .
When you say the device is dead, do you mean that it accidentally bricked during re-flashing/flashing ? But other than that, i can always revert the SPL and ROMs back to original, and they won't know that i changed it ? Thanks a ton for your help !
Edit: I think i downloaded the right ones from ChungHwa. Should I use ChungHwa's SPL and ROM or should I use the HTC ones ? I think they're different files in Taiwan, and that's where my warranty lies. My cousin (tore his Titan apart byte by byte) said that the HTC company could connect the Diamond to the main system and look through the sectors to determine any change or not. Would they go through all that trouble? And, would they be able to detect the foreign SPL or just see a change ?
NEW (29/4/09) --> after further investigation and discussion with other kaiser owner affected with same problem, the thing could be more important than expected as many Kaiser could be potentially having the same problem.
The issue is that after going on flight mode the unit can start to have problems to get registered to the phone operator. Sometimes the problem is mitigated temporary by disabling 3G but the problem can persist. The unit is able to see the operators available but not to connect to any of them. Units affected were built between 07/07 and 11/07.
If you are affected please post your release date (DATE: DDMMYY(TBXX)/EU) that you can find on the sticker on the atenna in the back, under the back cover.
If you are not, be aware of the problem as you may start to have it if you go to flight mode or travel abroad.
NO SOLUTION FOR THE TIME BEING, AND IN GENERAL AFFECTED UNITS ARE ALREADY OUT OF THE GUARANTEE PERIOD.
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My TYTN II has more than 1 year.
The problem: Basically it is out of coverage all time, and does not manage to get connected to any network.
It started about 1 year ago. I am base in France and I want to USA. When I arrived to New York it did not work anymore. I thought it could have been the roaming or just that I had changed the SIM card a few weeks before and the operator did something wrong (ORANGE). But the point is that the same SIM was working in my spare nokia and on the other hand an Orange Spain SIM had the same problem.
I spend a few days in USA moving from one state to the other and after 2 or 3 days the phone started to work but with some problems (changing from one operator to another it did work) finally the 4th day it was working.
When I returned to Paris, it did work ok for a while.
Then one day the phone just droped the connection to the operator, and at the same time the Bluetooth link to the BT carkit and the GPS stopped and restarted. Since that moment the phone just did not work anymore (only the telephone).
I open a case to HTC who never replied. On the phone they just say inconsistent things.
The WM6.1 official release came out and I did upgrade it--> still the same. A new ticket open to HTC without replay. I stopped using it for a while.
In summer I went to Spain for vacations and started to play with it again. One day it started to work again without any justificiation.... so I left it like that.
Months latter I got a mail from HTC (really very reactive) but at that point the phone was working since more than 4 months.
By the end of 2008 when I was in Spain and this time using my Orange Spain SIM, I had to replace the SIM. After a few days, and after travelling across Spain, I had again the same problem. And actually the phone did not get any coverage with any of the SIM I use (Orange FR, Orange ES, Movistar...). Little by little it started to work again and it has stay like this for a few months.
In the last few weeks I have been in UK and Italy. Again started to have problems and finally, after a visit to Italy my phone has stop working. It is like that for 2 weeks.
The point is that I have tryed all kind of things:
- force to GSM or let it in auto
- change the UMTS and GSM bands
- different SIM from different operators
- Official WM6.0 and WM6.1 spanish
- finally I started to flash different Radio ROM and also coocked ROM
- when I search manually the operators or I try to fix it manually, I see that the phone is actually capable to see the available networks, but it does not manage to get registered in any.
At the end it is always in with the "!" symbol, saying either that it has no coverage or that the access is refussed.
I have seen that in two occasions I had changed the SIM a few weeks before. Also that the problem has always happened after putting the phone in flight mode (actually I was flying) and landing in a new city or even a new country; except once.
Last point: it is free HTC Spanish version. It is actually the second as the first I had was stollen. With the first I never had problems.
I will end up sending it back to HTC but obviously it will take very very long and meanwhile I will not have the GPS and the rest of the PDA that still work ok.
Any idea?
Thanks
Wow that was a long post, even so, you've left out some important info. Which ROM Radio and SPL versions are on the device now (the wiki explains how to find all this out if needed). Has the device suffered any physical bumps or been used in the rain/got wet? Have you tried cleaning the battery terminals and spring posts with a cotton bud soaked in contact cleaner or IPA? Not sure if the last one will help (especially if there are no battery charge problems) but it may be an intermittant problem and I've found this to be a known issue with the TyTN II. Also, how much more than one year have you had the phone (my TyTN II came with a warranty about 15 months).
Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
On the other hand, I have tested all (really all) the RADIO ROM available in the FTP server of xda-developers, plus some more up to the 1.70.18.02 and
1.71.09.01.
Right now I'm running the 1.64.06.04.
In terms of ROM, I have also tested serveral. The last few are:
- offical HTC WM6.1 ESP (BTW with radio 1.65.17.56)
- KaiserESNReconstructedTestFix02
- RUU_Kaiser_SPA_WM6.1.19212.MobileVirtualVista2.21_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_by_ansar
The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
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Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
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How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
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I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
In terms of ROM ..... The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
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Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
Wow that is totally crazy. Good luck with that.
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How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
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I will clean it again just to be sure....
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
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I have gone through the forum to find another similar cases, but no luck. I agree with you that it is very unlikely that it is the ROM, as it happened with 5 different ROMs, including official WM6 and WM6.1.
Flying Kiwi said:
Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
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A few drops in 1 year an a half, this is almost unavoidable. But not a big crash, and in any case it never happened just before the problem. The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
I did not mention it but I reflashed the SPL a few times.... the same. I have also changed the Network Wizard and run it several times (there are some problems in the forum where people can not get access to some of the operator's services). Nothing changed
There is another point, when I go to the configuration of the Phone, I can list the available networks, but the issue is that it does not get registered to any of them. It may even be a problem with the operator an not the phone itself.
Flying Kiwi said:
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
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That is a good point. As I have to travel to UK from time to time I may consider it as an option, but as you say, I want to try all possibilities before.
Thanks again, and thanks to all other people that have any suggestion.
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The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
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You did mention sometimes it refuses to be registered on the correct network. If you use your secondary phone to call the operator, perhaps they can tell from their side why registration is being refused? I assume the SPL version you are using is fully compatible with the ROMs you are using. Other than that it's time to contact the repair centre and if you're now back in France then the HTC website (or Orange in France) should provide details of closer, more convenient repair centres. Good luck.
Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
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By that if you mean it's hardware related fair enough but remember there are lots of bits of hardware attached to the mainboard which are easily and relatively cheaply replaceable (eg the sim holder) so a skilled repairer should be able to diagnose exactly where the fault lies.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
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Well thats a very important distinction to make. Option 1 may be uneconomic to repair where as option 2 would be free - don't you think you should get a definitive response from your network provider?
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Get a definitive response from the network provider and then if reqd from an HTC repair centre (as suggested in my last post). In the meantime you can carry on as normal using the 'good' Kaiser.
Thansk.
If you have seen the rips of the Kaiser, it is not so easy to repair what is suppose to be faulty.
When you open it, you take out some parts:
- Antenna
- Speaker
- the roller control on the left side
Then you can remove the main card by disconnecting two flex cables.
When you have done this, your unit becomes two main parts:
- the main body that is completely ripped off
- the other half that contains the LCD, keyb, tilt mechanism, SIM reader, SD reader
The mothercard is actually monolitic, and most of the components are shilded with a methalic case solded to the board. There you have memory, processor, communication chipset...
I am currently using the "new" board on the old phone. Old the rest of the components are from the old one (including antenna, speaker....) and it works, so the fault is in the mother card.
Then when I use the old card with the "new" phone I have the same problem. I have a good and a bad one. Considering that I have no guarantee (and if I had, after all this manipulations, I have lost it for sure), I will first check with Orange. It is not very likely that it has been an operator problem as I have tried with many SIM from different operators and in different countries.
At this point is not so bad as I can play with the spare unit, test new ROM and SW, etc... before running it in the operational one. I also have spare parts in case that I broke something else (LCD...). I am even considering to buy another in ebay, something broken but with the mother card still running, so I can actually have two fully operational.
Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?
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That must be about the 4th or 5th time SPL has been mentioned in this thread and nowhere has pepesr answered - very annoying but you know what they say about leading a horse to water....
Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Especially when relevant questions from earlier on in the thread (and reminders/suggestions to clean terminals) are being ignored/not reported back on - maybe pepesr may actually listen this time and answer all outstanding q's/report what has actually been done?[/grouch mode]
Thanks again for your help.
Don't get disapointed, I have gone through all the story because the problem is quite weird and this is maybe the only way not to miss an important detail.
As said twice before, answering to the questions, I have traid different SPL and ROMs. To be more precise:
- The problem first started with original HTC SW set up., long time ago.
- I only started to play with different SPL a few weeks ago, and because I wanted to test different radios as the problem is on the phone part.
- I have tried SPLs 1.93, 1.56, 3.28. For sure 1 or 2 more but I don't have any record. Currently running 3.28
- I have installed radios:
- 1.27.11.31
- 1.27.12.11
- 1.27.12.17
- 1.27.12.32
- 1.27.14.09
- 1.27.15.32
- 1.58.26.20
- 1.64.06.04 --> currently running
- 1.64.08.21
- 1.70.18.02
- 1.71.09.01
- I have tried ROMs:
- official HTC WM6 spanish
- official HTC WM6.1 Spanish
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.21/2.20 D3D WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.10/2.00 WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3gullum
- Throttle Diamond I multi language (updated) --> currently running
Do not hesitate to ask further details.
Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
Anyway, perhaps the sim card connection to the motherboard is flaky
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Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
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You were right the first time. 'Verified' is not the same as cleaned correctly and thoroughly, just as saying it will be done doesn't mean it has been done (correctly and thoroughly). It's not that I'm simply dissapointed. I am annoyed at being given the run-around when it comes to getting concise answers and actions quickly.
I note that we finally have the CURRENT full ROM/Radio/SPL details when picked from a list of other things we didn't ask for (although still no word on whether the actual terminal/connector cleaning has yet taken place for sim and battery and if it was done correctly and thoroughly using the correct materials). I don't know if they are all fully compatible with each other, especially that radio (and to be honest, I can't be bothered checking the custom ROM thread to find out). To say all combinations have been tried is little use because that could mean mixing incompatible items together with a net result of problems. It's akin to saying I've verified all the fluid levels under a car bonnet by filling the radiator with oil, brake fluid reserviour with antifreeze and water and the engine with brake fluid.
I will not be hesitating to ask further details from pepesr (and pepesr_1 for that matter...), I simply won't. The problem is not that not enough words are provided in a response, it's that listening and acting on clear guidance is not occurring, not something I know how to change in others apart from by showing them the net effect.
In the words of ChumleyEX, the situation is 'crazy'!
As many times in the forum, your answers, Flying Kiwi, are starting to be agressive and useless.
Contacts have been very well cleaned (correctly and thoroughly).
More over, the SIM connectors are in the other half of the unit that works with the new motherboard.
Asuming by default that I am so incompetent and that I have not gone through all this forum to check all this compatibilities is quite arrogant.
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I continue to thanks all other people that has really the intention to help.
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Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Yes, it does work 102% for the rest. No other problems at all. And you can be sure I really strees it.
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
vuquan said:
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
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Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
pepesr_1 said:
Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
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I haven't check yet. But I think it's same. I bought it at 01/2008 as brandnew phone.
2 week ago, I take it to a service shop to re-weld the SIM tray pins. At that time, the phone is good. After one day, it became fault as the time before welding.
More information:
- When it good, the signal can be found when the Windows starting (the LED is blink) with any SIM.
- When it fault, with usable SIMs, the signal can be found after Windows started some minutes. With un-usable SIMs, the phone says: No SIM.
- All Sims above are good SIM (tested on other phone)
Sorry for my bad English.
hello
i orderd this incredable S.phone from some store that's selling 2nd hand
cellphones.
the only smartphones that i had was Nokia's N80\N95-8GB\N73\N82
but those are symbians,now im facing with new kind of phone with WinMobile
i need to recive in 2-3 weeks
im somewhat consorned by those "Cracks" and "Black screen" while sliding the
phone.
all i know that im getting the black version of the phone the owner cannot tell
me what version of the phone he holds
are there any marks that i need to search to know what version of the phone
it is? (by mean version i meant model's X1i\X1c\X1a)
im using gsm network only i have no need in 3G.
the point is :
what are the differences between the model's X1i\X1c\X1a ?
sry for my bad english
also if u can be kind to tell me
* how long the battery hold a charge ?
* the build quality of the phone ?
* can i put hebrew language ?
* can i upgrade to WinMob 6.5 ?
* is it a good phone ?
thank u very much guys
with best regards
Israel ben david
x1i is x1 international which support 30fps cam capture and the 900/1800/1900/2100 frequencies the international world use
x1a is x1 American which because of a lawsuit with broadcom only support 15fps cam capture and the American frequencies which are 850/1900/2100
like i said
is there any way to know which model i have?
You won't be able to tell by looking at it. It's all the same physically. You'll be able to tell by checking out the phone information under the phone settings (I can't remember and can't check because my phone has succumbed to its second flex ribbon failure). From your description of the phone, it's going to be a X1i/X1c just because they don't make the X1a in black. (Unless the seller disassembled the phone and put on a black housing on the X1a, which I doubt) Now what are differences between X1i & X1c? I didn't even know they had an X1c!!! I think they are the same phone and nothing to worry about.
also i have messed with roms that will change it from x1i to x1a and yada yada.
the biggest thing you will find is your getting alot of power now. this phone does everything.
the X1c is for China :\
that's the one that i'v bought the very one
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250635158353&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123
but! the seller said that it's an Vodafone's Xperia and its unlocked and had
"3" network.
that means that the phone is X1i .
look i dont know much about "Roms" (the Drink is enough though ) i want to
get rid the most of the bugs in this phone.
i'v heard that can be a problem with Multitasking when making calls and do other stuff as some 1 said the phone freezes :\
how does it compare to other phone in his class like the HTC TOUCH PRO and the HTC HD\HD2?
and another Quastion to u guys:
if i'll update the phones firmware will it change the language? as i know the phones has 2 OS :
I. SE OS
II. WM OS
im a bit confused...
ok first off you must understand,
problems posted are not always sterotypical.
i have 2 xperias, and i have hacked the hell out of them. ran numerous roms, numerous programs.
never had a problem with either of them.
i have also had a touch pro, and in my opinion its far better than the touch pro.
if you read the threads about 5 people having issues with this or that, what your not reading is the thousand people who arent having those problems.
im not sure what you mean by 2 operating systems.
it only runs one.
windows mobile
and there is a program built by sony called xperia panels.
its not an OS its a GUI.
the rom i run removed that completely as i do not use it therefore wanted the space.
every question you ask will always have 2 responses one negative and one positive.
the only true way to answer your questions is to answer them yourself with phone in hand.
i dont mean to be harsh, but it seems to me you purchased something without really knowing what you purchased.
and are looking for some comfort by asking and reading on the forums.
touch pro has issues with the slide out keyboard.
that doesnt mean every single touch pro will have it.
xperia people say their having issues with case cracks.
but how are these people using their phones?
everything is based on how the user uses the phone.
the very same thing can be asked about different laptops.
some people will say acer is junk, some will say its the best thing out.
all i can tell you is if you get a phone is good condition, and you get it to work on your cell provider... the rest is up to you on how your expeirence will be.
once u spend some of ur time here reading, u'll know what we're talkin bout and at 100% chance of flasing custom rom which is making the xperia even more better! The Sticky thread is usually that u need to read first.
I own Xperia X1i for about half-year and i am generally happy with it... there are some issues in design, making the phone less sturdy than for example iPhone, but i guess every QWERTY-keyboard device is more fragile than those without it... use it carefully, as any enough hard fall on ground can be fatal (happened to me, but they accepted it as warranty repair )
Xperia's main storage capacity is very limited (about 200 MBs), but stock MicroSD card has 4 GB of capacity which can be sufficient to many users. If it's not your case, you can expand it up to SanDisk's recently released 32 GB MicroSDs.
In-built speaker has poor play quality (if i compare to old good K750i it sucks hard imo) but stock headphones play nicely and their insulating tube gives them large longevity (at least in my opinion )
Qualcomm CPU provides this phone great performance for running many applications at same time, i usually play music, two IM clients and sometimes do something else (for example playing Warcraft II) so i think you don't have to worry about getting your apps slow (unless they are written very ****ty or you plan to run dragon age: origins on it x) )
In-built Xperia panels provide very nice media player (faaaar better than WMP Mobile imo) - but it lacks equalizer (which sometimes sucks, but i had never found any suitable player).
Battery lifetime never gone under 8hrs in my case, even while using my device intensively, 8hrs should be sufficient, and you can recharge it with any USB cable you find in any USB bus, or in car via "lighter hole" (don't know how to say it in eng hope you know what i mean)
there is crapload of applications for WM devices, many are freeware, making your phone capable to do allmost anything (from web browsing to MySQL administration - whatever gets on your mind...)
o.k guys i'v recived the phone it's really the Xperia X1i it's Vodafone version (also the software is by vodafone branded)
its super amazing!
fast! smooth touch!
now i really have quastions :
*should i update the firmware using the "Update Service" software
to update the phone?
*is there any firmware which have "hebrew language" ?
*whare i can find an hebrew support for the WinMob 6.1 for the Keyboard & software?
*how can i disable peremenatly the data connection 3g/gprs?
its keep saying "connecting 3g\gprs contract connection" i dont use the Internet from my provider (Cellcom) at all
*somtimes the reception fading away i dont know why...its not happans with
any other of my phones (n82,n95-8gb,w810i,w995 and so on)
*how can i get rid the vodafone version and putting a Clean & unbranded version?
hope that u can help me beacuse i cant understand a thing from the manual's
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GUARDIANBD said:
o.k guys i'v recived the phone it's really the Xperia X1i it's Vodafone version (also the software is by vodafone branded)
its super amazing!
fast! smooth touch!
now i really have quastions :
*should i update the firmware using the "Update Service" software
to update the phone?
*is there any firmware which have "hebrew language" ?
*whare i can find an hebrew support for the WinMob 6.1 for the Keyboard & software?
*how can i disable peremenatly the data connection 3g/gprs?
its keep saying "connecting 3g\gprs contract connection" i dont use the Internet from my provider (Cellcom) at all
*somtimes the reception fading away i dont know why...its not happans with
any other of my phones (n82,n95-8gb,w810i,w995 and so on)
*how can i get rid the vodafone version and putting a Clean & unbranded version?
hope that u can help me beacuse i cant understand a thing from the manual's
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1. that's generally up to you, if you intend on keeping stock rom (default SE firmware) I would advice on it to have latest fixes
2. dunno, search PavelX1 in rom dev stickies, all stock (official) roms listed there
3. read here for starters
4. there's a nodata app from modaco around, search for it
5. maybe radio rom version not good for your region, consider updating (have a look e.g. in gtrab rom library thread rom dev stickies) or search
6. as in 2 or flash custom rom
enjoy
DK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689042
some1 said "Murphy's law" ?
agreed with Draken Korin
you can find roms, change radios tons of stuff
but this is for medium to advanced users. do research before you dive in.
i know that its very anoying but can some one guide me what to do to fix the phone?
im a bit afraid to do that its my firms WinMob based phone and i dont want to brick it...
time for some homework then
check stickies in rom dev, focus on biovolt and phenx for tutorials
then continue with olinex and jackleung
after that you will understand better and be less afraid I hope
ya there isnt much we can tell you.
basically you need to determin how far you want to go.
then learn how to go there.
as Draken Korin said. you need to learn now.
better signal equals better radio
roms increase usablity
but not every radio is right for you
not every rom is right for you.
you need to first become comfortable with what your doing before you do anything.
I dont know whare to start
i know the basic but i dont know how to start...
i'll try to use the phone under WIN XP first to update the phone with SEUS
some ppl said that under vista\7 there are problems to update and they
succeed under XP
hope that it will work...
I agree that it's a lot to take in all at once, but the only way to do it is to dive in. Nice as we all can be, no one is going to hold your hand step by step. If we did, you wouldn't learn anything and you'd never be able to handle things yourself. WinMo is a very self-reliant system, so you'll need to learn how to deal with it if things don't go as planned.
Start by browsing the Tweaks sticky; pick out a few things you'd like to do with simple apps at first. Just installing and learning to work with .cab files will speed your learning process up considerably. The more you do, the more you learn. If you start with simple .cab installs, you won't have to worry about bricking the phone. Just don't install anything that wasn't meant for the X1, just in case
done it!
under XP everyting was smoooooooooooooooooth
now,i'll put hebrew language on it and a lot o' stuffff
thank u all ^^