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HTC TYTN II Weird Behavior After Upgrade to 6.1

Hi Guys,
thanks for the good job you'all are doing. Will appreciate whatever help i can get to resolve this issue with my phone. I have the HTC TYTN II which i recently upgraded to WM 6.1 using the official ROM which i donwloaded from HTC website. Since then i have noticed that sometimes it seems my phone is dialing itself or a call is coming in. The funny part is though every other function is working i wont be able to answer this phone. It will seem to hang. Then after a while i will get the cprog.exe error. To be able to make phone calls i have to soft reset the phone. i have had to hard reset my phone twice already with no solution. Also googling has not been able to provide any answer too. I just sent an email to HTC Technical support now but with experience i doubt if i will get any useful response. So this is my last resort.
It is also pertinent to note here too that intermittently i do get the tmail.exe errors.

Hi,
I am having the same problem after the upgrade..frequently its becoming stoned! requiring restart many time during the day...which was not the case before...anybody has got any solution???
I love my TyTn II but not the 6.1 ..its not stable!

azuka said:
Hi Guys,
I have the HTC TYTN II which i recently upgraded to WM 6.1 using the official ROM which i donwloaded from HTC website. ........ errors.
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Azuka, who so ever upgraded to 6.1 from HTC experienced the same problem even i myself suffered the same. So your only solution is to downgrade to 6 but before doing that you must HardSPL your phone ...

Two words... bad flash.
Regardless of what you might hear about WM 6.1 being unstable/unusable, it's simple NOT TRUE. Head over to the Kaiser Wiki, read up on flashing HardSPL (really read), and then once you have HardSPL'd your phone, flash a different ROM.
But please do not make the mistake of asking for recommendations on which ROM to use. The ROM that works best for me probably will not work best for you, in terms of programs loaded and cosmetically.

NotATreoFan said:
Two words... bad flash.
Regardless of what you might hear about WM 6.1 being unstable/unusable, it's simple NOT TRUE. Head over to the Kaiser Wiki, read up on flashing HardSPL (really read), and then once you have HardSPL'd your phone, flash a different ROM.
But please do not make the mistake of asking for recommendations on which ROM to use. The ROM that works best for me probably will not work best for you, in terms of programs loaded and cosmetically.
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Thanks for your reply. Your two words "Bad Flash" got me thinking. How could that be. I thought so too and had to re-download the file from htc website and re-installed.
About HardSPL'd your phone, from reading the wiki i now know what it is. But there is no instruction out there to HardSPL'd. Do i need to get the file and copy unto my phone or what?
thanks.

Head over to the Wiki, and under ROM Upgrading - Tools, I added an entry to HardSPL v3.xx. All the instructions needed are in that thread.

NotATreoFan said:
Head over to the Wiki, and under ROM Upgrading - Tools, I added an entry to HardSPL v3.xx. All the instructions needed are in that thread.
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Thanks for your help for far. This is an update of where i am today and a few questions i need your help to answer:
I took my phone into the retialer where i bought and who serve as the service center for HTC here in Doha, Qatar. They re-installed the WM 6.1 OS and so far i dont have the issues i was having before. However i do experience momentary screen freezes which eases off after a few second. Right the device information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM date: 05/02/08
Radio Version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02H
Going into the bootloader the i see the following information:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Which i believe confirms that the HardSPL is 3.28 - please correct me if i am wrong. Now my questions are as follows:
1. How do i resolve the momentary freezing?
2. Do i still need to do a HardSPL giving that mine is showing 3.28?
3. And your answer to do above is Yes which version do i need to do? 3.28 or 3.29 or even 3.56
Thank you once again.

azuka said:
Thanks for your help for far. This is an update of where i am today and a few questions i need your help to answer:
I took my phone into the retialer where i bought and who serve as the service center for HTC here in Doha, Qatar. They re-installed the WM 6.1 OS and so far i dont have the issues i was having before. However i do experience momentary screen freezes which eases off after a few second. Right the device information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM date: 05/02/08
Radio Version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02H
Going into the bootloader the i see the following information:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Which i believe confirms that the HardSPL is 3.28 - please correct me if i am wrong. Now my questions are as follows:
1. How do i resolve the momentary freezing?
2. Do i still need to do a HardSPL giving that mine is showing 3.28?
3. And your answer to do above is Yes which version do i need to do? 3.28 or 3.29 or even 3.56
Thank you once again.
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I have the freezing issues too. Two things has helped me reduce the frequency (and improve general responsiveness of the device):
1. I've disabled the HTC task manager application - that helps a lot on responsiveness
2. Each time I soft reset the phone, I manually kill the mstli.exe process - that helps a lot on the freezing issues.
regards,
Spip

Just to share some experiences
So I have the TyTN II and I recently upgraded to the official HTC WM6.1.
I have none of these problems of screen freezing, unstable rom, etc etc etc...
However, I do suffer from occasional program error message and asks me quite a few times to send the report to microsoft.
But this only happens when I load certain third party softwares and then close them down.
I attribute this to compatibility issues with WM6.1...maybe I'm wrong. But that's what I think anyway.

azuka said:
Going into the bootloader the i see the following information:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Which i believe confirms that the HardSPL is 3.28 - please correct me if i am wrong. Now my questions are as follows:
1. How do i resolve the momentary freezing?
2. Do i still need to do a HardSPL giving that mine is showing 3.28?
3. And your answer to do above is Yes which version do i need to do? 3.28 or 3.29 or even 3.56
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You do not have HardSPL on your phone. You have SPL 3.28, which was flashed to your phone as part of the WM 6.1 upgrade. If you want to try out custom ROMs, you will still need to flash HardSPL 3.xx.
I recommend flashing HardSPL 3.56. It was ripped from an AT&T build, but seems to work great with all flavors of WM 6.1.
As for the freezing, it cannot be eliminated 100%. But with a good cooked ROM and the right HardSPL, you will rarely experience one.

I had this issue and it was just down to previous HardSPL being left at an early version (I think around 1.02) on the device and if you apply this latest HTC stock ROM update you get a bad flash and freezing especially in the threaded SMS app.
Install any HardSPL later than 3.00 then redo the ROM update and it should cure it.

Thanks guys. I just did the HardSPL 3.56 and re-installed the HTC official 6.1 ROM. So let's see how it goes.
Btw, HardSPL-ing is not as difficult as it seems though.
Right now the following is my configuration:
KAIS130
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
Device Information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
Thanks all.

NotATreoFan said:
You do not have HardSPL on your phone. You have SPL 3.28, which was flashed to your phone as part of the WM 6.1 upgrade. If you want to try out custom ROMs, you will still need to flash HardSPL 3.xx.
I recommend flashing HardSPL 3.56. It was ripped from an AT&T build, but seems to work great with all flavors of WM 6.1.
As for the freezing, it cannot be eliminated 100%. But with a good cooked ROM and the right HardSPL, you will rarely experience one.
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If I want to downgrade from official wm 6.1 to official wm 6.0 that is in xda, do I need a spl or hardspl ???
By the way, the problem I am having with WM 6.1 is support code 86000107, sync problem that until today don't see a solution

if u need upgrade or downgrade then u r speaking about a need for hardspl
dkiersz said:
If I want to downgrade from official wm 6.1 to official wm 6.0 that is in xda, do I need a spl or hardspl ???
By the way, the problem I am having with WM 6.1 is support code 86000107, sync problem that until today don't see a solution
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Just a quick update. After HardSPL-ing my phone it worked well for sometime then the tmail.exe error surfaced. I have only had the cprog.exe error - where a call comes in and i can not answer neither can i make another call until i soft reboot - has only happened once or twice. Apart from these the phone has been working well.
Anyway i just got a reply from my earlier mail to HTC and thought i should post if here for people's information. Apparently they are aware of these issues and working on them. Read for yourselves:
New Response From [ Maha Mamer (Qatar Support (Tech)) ]
Thank you for contacting HTC Corporation Middle East Support Dear Mr. Felix First of all we are very sorry for our late reply Please, if your problem still exist with this error message, you can try one of two options. 1- go to Start> Settings> System(tab)> error reporting> and disable the error reporting option. 2- If this did not solve your problem, then you might need to get back to WM6.0 until we finish our update for the new release of WM6.1 with the new modification for our web site. Please do not hesitate to contact us back for any inquires. Please note that you could also contact us by phone on our hot lines. http://www.htc.com/mea-en/CA_Hotline.aspx?region=MEA Sincerely, thank you for choosing HTC Corporation HTC Corporation Middle East Support Team http://www.htc.com/mea-en/default.aspx

Just an observation here:
After reading somewhere on these pages that the erratic behavior of TYTN II could be due to bluetooth adapter i decided to go some days without my Motorola S9 bluetooth ear piece i am yet to experience any of the issues i had before. Could the bluetooth software for WM 6.1 be the issue?

Momentary Freezing - Resolved?
azuka said:
Thanks guys. I just did the HardSPL 3.56 and re-installed the HTC official 6.1 ROM. So let's see how it goes.
Btw, HardSPL-ing is not as difficult as it seems though.
Right now the following is my configuration:
KAIS130
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
Device Information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
Thanks all.
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Did you ever resolve your momentary freezing issues? I have a new TYTN II that I upgraded to WM 6.1. I used hardspl 1.0 to do that but after reading numerous posts, I loaded HArdspl 3.28. After installing hardSPL 3.28, the 5 second freezes are less frequent but happen everyday.
I am not sure where to go from here? load another HSPL? Reload '3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) ' ROM?
As you know these pauses are very annoying.
Tytn II - Kaiser
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H

wa4cbg said:
Did you ever resolve your momentary freezing issues? I have a new TYTN II that I upgraded to WM 6.1. I used hardspl 1.0 to do that but after reading numerous posts, I loaded HArdspl 3.28. After installing hardSPL 3.28, the 5 second freezes are less frequent but happen everyday.
I am not sure where to go from here? load another HSPL? Reload '3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) ' ROM?
As you know these pauses are very annoying.
Tytn II - Kaiser
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
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Actually the freezing is barely existent. Even the other issues seemed to have disappeared since i stopped using my bluetooth.

How to Stop Momemtary Freezing
azuka said:
Actually the freezing is barely existent. Even the other issues seemed to have disappeared since i stopped using my bluetooth.
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I am looking for a solution. Not using Blue tooth to use a device that costs over 600.00 just doesn't make sense to me.
Is there a ROM hardSPL combination that will give me freeze-free performance or is this an HTC problem that is not solvable. I just can't believe that every Kaiser user that has upgraded to wm 6.1 has the same issue that I have with momentary freezes that last up to 5 seconds.
Is the solution another ROM, another Hspl, another phone? Who can help me resolve this issue? Is there a better place to post this?
Thank you

Freezes and locks.
Prior to my upgrading my AT&T Tilt to WM6.1 which I did today. I was experiancing LONG freezes, listening to music or just waiting for menus. I could not determine any specific software that was the cause. I tend to install a lot. Did a hard reset, didn't install the AT&T bloat, reinstalled my primary apps MS Voice Command 1.6 (a Must). Still same issues... Occationally could NOT answer calls. Hit the green button, or the answer option on screen. the onscreen 'answer' would flash, but I could not use the phone until a soft reset. LONG process when you are waiting for a call back.
AT&T sent me a new phone which I got and installed the NEW wm 6.1 before anything. Worked pretty well, but I had not made any calls or recieved any all day. I did listen to several hours of music on my Motorola S9 headset and made sure Audible Player would work. Two apps I use daily.
All seems well, except NOW I get the cprog.exe error. I decided to test my phone with a simple incoming call. Before I ended it, it went dead. Not sure what the HardSPL is yet. Will look into that. Just thought I'd let others know that the lag, AT&T seemed to think was a hardware issue so they replaced my Tilt.
Software installed; MS Voice Command 1.6, Live Search, Audible Player, TCPMP, FlashBundle, GPSToday. Pretty much it besides the AT&T bloat that came with the ROM. Good luck

Kaiser / TyTN II WiFi Problem!

Dear all Kaiser anchestor,
I have a problem with my Kaiser. I really hope that all of you can help me. Ok? Please....
This is the problem :
At the begining, My HTC Kaiser run so slowly, sometimes freezing (Condition WM 6.1 with it's SPL 1.56)
After I read the same problem in jockyw2001 thread, then I tried to flash My device SPL to 3.28 (with the step in front of that thread and the SPL from that thread too)
Flashing the SPL to 3.28 was successfully and my device run fast now
BUT!!! I can't Enabled my WiFi!
Next, I tried to Re-Flash my SPL to 1.56 again, and it's done successfully. But, the WiFi still can't be enable.
Next step, I tried to downgrade the ROM to WM 6, and WHAT!
I still can't Enable my WiFi!
Now, I'd upgrade to WM6.1 again (official ROM from HTC website). But, the WiFi still can't be enable.
The condition when I enable the WiFi is loading then turn off by itself. What's the problem?
I really need all of your help for this.
This is my Device Information:
ROM Version :3.29.707.0 WWE
ROM Date : 05\07\08
Radio Version :1.65.16.25
Protocol Version : 25.83.40.02H
After upgrade to WM6.1, My Bootloader now is:
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
I'm stress already. Hope all you may spare some of your time for help me to solve the problem. Thanks before. For more detail, just watch the video that I record when tried to enable the wifi.
The url is : http://www.andrylim.com/others/WifiProblem.wmv

Whats wrong with running the HTC upgrade on your HTC original TyTN II?
andrylim said:
After upgrade to WM6.1, My Bootloader now is:
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
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Since you're interested in running the official HTC WM 6.1 version on your TyTN II then why not simply run the HTC Upgrade program which will reinstall everything required (SPL, Radio and ROM) in one easy go rather than have to upgrade this and that, bit by bit? If you have an official TyTN II you can get it from HTCs e-Club/Support or you can also download it from the XDA Kaiser Wiki ROM page. Note that my SPL is 3.28.0000 and thats all through the official upgrade path so maybe your SPL has something to do with it? See if the official upgrade installs on your device otherwise you'll have to revert to the correct SPL before trying again. Note that the newest WWE ROM upgrade now also comes with a (slightly) better radio as in my sig. Remember to take your sim and memory cards out before attempting the flash.
***Edit*** Just realised you're running the SEA rather than WWE HTC ROM I'm using so yes 3.29 looks to be the right SPL for your ROM, the rest still applies though.

Hmm...
Sorry Mr Flying Kiwi, I think you didn't read the message completely. I've already re-flash from OFFICIAL ROM WM6.1 from HTC e-Club. But, the same problem. It's not fix yet. I've reflash over than 5 times, downgrade to WM6 over than 2 times. an the result is the same. My WiFi Cannot be enable. I hope you can play the video that i record from the links up there (440kb only), so you will know my problem.
Thanks for your reply Boss!
or this one
The url is : http://www.andrylim.com/others/WifiProblem.wmv
Flying Kiwi said:
Since you're interested in running the official HTC WM 6.1 version on your TyTN II then why not simply run the HTC Upgrade program which will reinstall everything required (SPL, Radio and ROM) in one easy go rather than have to upgrade this and that, bit by bit? If you have an official TyTN II you can get it from HTCs e-Club/Support or you can also download it from the XDA Kaiser Wiki ROM page. Note that my SPL is 3.28.0000 and thats all through the official upgrade path so maybe your SPL has something to do with it? See if the official upgrade installs on your device otherwise you'll have to revert to the correct SPL before trying again. Note that the newest WWE ROM upgrade now also comes with a (slightly) better radio as in my sig. Remember to take your sim and memory cards out before attempting the flash.
***Edit*** Just realised you're running the SEA rather than WWE HTC ROM I'm using so yes 3.29 looks to be the right SPL for your ROM, the rest still applies though.
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Use the official upgrade package - not just the rom file
andrylim said:
Sorry Mr Flying Kiwi, I think you didn't read the message completely. I've already re-flash from OFFICIAL ROM WM6.1 from HTC e-Club.
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I read it alright but as you've not done it *using the officially supplied HTC upgrade package (not just the ROM file within it from HTC e-Club)* I reccomend you give that a try. No special hard spl version is reqd and as long as you have an official ROM to start with and you're upgrading or reinstalling the same ROM version, it's simply a case of running one file and following the instructions. Once you've got the reflash to run that way and completed the process, simply hard reset and then test your Wifi before installing anything further.
But, the same problem. It's not fix yet. I've reflash over than 5 times, downgrade to WM6 over than 2 times. an the result is the same. My WiFi Cannot be enable. I hope you can play the video that i record from the links up there (440kb only), so you will know my problem.
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Perhaps the capturing program over Activesync may be interfering with things (but I did view your wmv). What I am sure of is that if you have the correct ROM matched to your device and correctly installed with the right spl and radio, Wifi should work fine. Running the official upgrade is the easiest way to get this but if there is something non-official about your current setup, the upgrade program may refuse to run. Let us know if that happens. It's clear that you didn't do this in the beginning because you ended up with the wrong spl version for your rom so it's time to do it the official 'HTC Customer' way.

Hahaha.... thanks for your information. I'd tried yesterday. And still no response. ugh.... Btw, I've read from another thread (Athena). They said that someone ever got a problem like this. The cause is the WiFi MAC Address is missing/erased? Is it possible? I thought that MAC Address is a serial number of WiFi such as an IP, where saved in WiFi chip/device and cannot be erase. If do so, how to set an MAC address to the WiFi module? Do you have an idea? I'd tried to have a silly search about that address in Registry, but I cannot find any key that sounds about MAC Address. (Mac Gyver maybe?)
Flying Kiwi said:
I read it alright but as you've not done it *using the officially supplied HTC upgrade package (not just the ROM file within it from HTC e-Club)* I reccomend you give that a try. No special hard spl version is reqd and as long as you have an official ROM to start with and you're upgrading or reinstalling the same ROM version, it's simply a case of running one file and following the instructions. Once you've got the reflash to run that way and completed the process, simply hard reset and then test your Wifi before installing anything further.
Perhaps the capturing program over Activesync may be interfering with things (but I did view your wmv). What I am sure of is that if you have the correct ROM matched to your device and correctly installed with the right spl and radio, Wifi should work fine. Running the official upgrade is the easiest way to get this but if there is something non-official about your current setup, the upgrade program may refuse to run. Let us know if that happens. It's clear that you didn't do this in the beginning because you ended up with the wrong spl version for your rom so it's time to do it the official 'HTC Customer' way.
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More specifics needed
andrylim said:
Hahaha.... thanks for your information. I'd tried yesterday. And still no response. ugh...
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I was offering serious advice not pulling your leg. Now, when you say 'still no response yet' - precisely what do you mean (exactly what did you try and what happened)? I've flashed my Kaisers ROM a couple of times now using HTC official ROM upgrading packages and it's gone perfectly fine. As far as the MAC address goes, I know there are ways of changing it (because there is an extremely small possibility that you may end up with two identical MAC adresses on the same network and this will cause problems) but this won't be the culprit in your case. I think (again) the first thing to do is to use the official package (and only that - no additional tools/utilities are reqd) to get everything in order and let us know how that goes and what versions of everything you end up with.

This is the information that appears in my device now after re-upgrade the official ROM from HTC e-Club:
File name : RUU_Kaiser_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.29.707.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
ROM version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
ROM date : 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Protocol version : 25.83.40.02H
Btw, may i ask a question? I found something strange about a MAC address. Yesterday I'm not intention open the "Wireless LAN" from Settings > Connections > Wireless LAN
In Advance tab, there are Status, MAC, and IP. My Question is is the MAC address serial appears even you didn't enable a WiFi? In my device it's empty.
Btw, bro... I've been search a problem like this in this website. I've found the same problem in Athena thread. They said that the MAC address is missing, but some one make a fix but only for Athena.
this their URL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&highlight=Athena+WiFi+Problem&page=5
Thanks & sorry if i waste your time in solving my wifi problem
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I was offering serious advice not pulling your leg. Now, when you say 'still no response yet' - precisely what do you mean (exactly what did you try and what happened)? I've flashed my Kaisers ROM a couple of times now using HTC official ROM upgrading packages and it's gone perfectly fine. As far as the MAC address goes, I know there are ways of changing it (because there is an extremely small possibility that you may end up with two identical MAC adresses on the same network and this will cause problems) but this won't be the culprit in your case. I think (again) the first thing to do is to use the official package (and only that - no additional tools/utilities are reqd) to get everything in order and let us know how that goes and what versions of everything you end up with.
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andrylim said:
This is the information that appears in my device now after re-upgrade the official ROM from HTC e-Club:
File name : RUU_Kaiser_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.29.707.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
ROM version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
ROM date : 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Protocol version : 25.83.40.02H
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That looks right to me but if you haven't yet ran the upgrade file above to flash to ROM you need to do it the official way and try that. If Wifi is still behaving as in your video do a hard reset and try again (before loading any additional software).
Btw, may i ask a question? I found something strange about a MAC address. Yesterday I'm not intention open the "Wireless LAN" from Settings > Connections > Wireless LAN
In Advance tab, there are Status, MAC, and IP. My Question is is the MAC address serial appears even you didn't enable a WiFi? In my device it's empty.
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In mine it's empty too but if you go back in after enabling Wifi, theres a MAC address in there. I really don't think your problem has anything to do with the MAC address but if you've tried all of the above and still can't get it working, as you appear to have an official setup, it's time to contact Tech support and get them to go through some checks over the phone with you. Maybe someone else has thoughts on this......

Hahaha... thanks. Btw, I have another problems.
I bought this device from other country (Singapore). My friends said, the Singapore HTC can view the device history. They can see if the device already being flash how many times and anything unofficial program such as SPL or radio, then the warranty wil be void. Because, my friends already have such a problem also with his device Dopod U1000 (Even he revert to his original SPL or radio).
I think i should throw this device or sell it out and buy the new one. Hiks...
Flying Kiwi said:
That looks right to me but if you haven't yet ran the upgrade file above to flash to ROM you need to do it the official way and try that. If Wifi is still behaving as in your video do a hard reset and try again (before loading any additional software).
In mine it's empty too but if you go back in after enabling Wifi, theres a MAC address in there. I really don't think your problem has anything to do with the MAC address but if you've tried all of the above and still can't get it working, as you appear to have an official setup, it's time to contact Tech support and get them to go through some checks over the phone with you. Maybe someone else has thoughts on this......
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andrylim said:
I think i should throw this device or sell it out and buy the new one. Hiks...
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Doesn't it make sense to at least try what's been suggested first? What have you to loose? The hardware company have no need to know what 'ROM Action' has occurred in the past and who knows what any people you've leant your TyTN II to may have done with it..... They only need to know how it is now and whether it's currently official (ie flashed using the HTC upgrader).

andrylim said:
I think i should throw this device or sell it out and buy the new one. Hiks...
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I'll give you $50 for it.

The same problem
Im having the same problem... my wi-fi do not turns on! I have flashed this a lot of times, and sometimes works, sometimes dont.

Does anyone have any ideia about this? im stressed becouse i have the same problem... could anyone tellme a good radio in order to try to solve this issue? thanks

Wi-Fi issues
This has worked for me, dont know if its the same case with you or not.
My device was never able to connect to my Wifi n/w at home. If I went to start -> setting -> connections -> Wifi, it would show my home n/w as available, when I tried to connect to it, the status changed from Available to "connecting" then became available again.
In my home n/w I had access type authentication as WEP keys + Mac address filtering. My device was added to the MAC address list so that was not a problem. The issue was access point authentication which was set to WEP keys type authentication on my router. Once I changed from WEP keys to WPA-PSK (data encryption type TKIP) my WM was able to connect to the router.

I have HTC tytn II and its wifi is not searching any other wifi devices or router even in very close range , but wifi is turning on and the green light is also blinking
So, is there a hardware problem?
I did 3.29 hard spl , hard reset ,hard spl 3.34 , but the result is same.
and in network adapters IEEE 802.1b/g goes down and down in the list of network adapters , please HELP.! and sorry for my bad english

try a newer radio

mfsr98 said:
try a newer radio
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Currently the Radio Version is 1.70.18.02
before this Radio Version I had 1.65.*.*

Tytn Ii Rom Upgrade

Hi all,
I have TYTN II which was bought in duty free and it is not connected to any network.
ROM Version: 1.81.415.4 WWE
ROM Date: 10/29/07
Radio Version: 1.27.15.32
Protocol Version: 22.51.88.13H
Bootloader (TriColor) screen showing following:
KAIS130
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
Serial
Please let me know if i can upgrade my rom to the latest one HTC TyTN II-RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
which i downloaded directly from the HTC but without previously upgrading with HardSPL 1?
Thanks

Yes but why
You don't need to install hardSPL to run the HTC official upgrades from an existing official HTC installation. It's a very straightforward process but be aware many people have found the HTC official TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 upgraded ROM to offer deteriorated GPS performance with times to get a satellite lock taking significantly longer. I also found the latest WM 6.1 ROM and Radio combination (what you're looking at upgrading to) to contain quite a few bugs that weren't even in the original WM 6.0 ROM. If you upgrade and don't like it, it's not a straightforward process to put it back again (the HTC repair centre reverted my TyTN II) so make sure it's what you really want.
***Edit*** If your new ROM is for a different region eg Europe vs South East Asia, the ROM *may not be accepted either (I've never tried but I know flashing different languages is a definite nono the 'official' way). If the HTC Website offered up this ROM for your serial no, it should flash through ok.

Thank you for prompt answer Flying Kiwi ,
I have to try upgrading ROM to the latest one in order to try fixing problem i am facing described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434884
Now, is it worth trying to upgrade to the latest ROM or my problem is of hardware nature?
Thanks

ROM flashing to fix such an issue not advisable
jeremija_de_niro said:
Thank you for prompt answer Flying Kiwi ,
I have to try upgrading ROM to the latest one in order to try fixing problem i am facing described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434884
Now, is it worth trying to upgrade to the latest ROM or my problem is of hardware nature?
Thanks
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I've replied to that thread but I strongly suggest you don't go down the path of flashing a new ROM (even if you could) to fix a problem present in the device with an HTC official setup like this. It's time to call HTC and (possibly) send it off for Warranty investigation if you have correctly prepared the desktop PCs first. I'm sure that HTC wouldn't release a ROM which had issues that significant on a device so I'm sure the problem is not with the ROM itself.

gps software upgrade
hi
i have a problem that while purchasing my tyttn 2 the rom installed doesnt have the gps software . any body can provide me with a serial for another fone that can get me the software as while providing my serial they are giving me the update of the middle east which doesnt include the software

No network after new ROM :(

I just flashed my Diamond with the: RUU_Diamond_HTC_NOR_2.03.409.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe
I'm an norwegian that's in the US studying, so they only gave me the norwegian version. Anyways, everything worked fine until flash, but now my phone refuses to register on the network (AT&T)!
Took the sim-card back to the at&t nokia phone, worked the first time...
I really wants to use my Diamond instead of the crappy nokia, but it would be a shame to downgrade to 1.93 (which worked just fine...).
Someone, please have a solution for me?

simply install a new radio....try 1.00.25.07 that seems to be the only quadband radio..
(you have to flash an hspl before)

It's stuck on 0% and won't continue... Tried several roms :-/

no service?????
is there a soution to this no network problem
THERE IS A CROSS IN THE RECEPTION BAR AND WHEN YOU DIAL OUT IT SAYS "OPERATION FAILED"
any replies appreciated

Quite bad if the official RUU more or less bricks the device, at least turns into just a little computer

It screwed up my Diamond aswell The gprs is completely dead, been up all night trying to fix it, several hard resets etc, nothing helps... if it was a cooked rom I could tolerate it but official roms screwing up our phones this easily pisses me off.

Mine worked again, with the old 1.93 rom!!
What the hell did they do to 2.03? I suppose the radio rom is different at least... But I couldn't change to the old radio when I had 2.03, tried using the HardSpl...
Is it possible to flash _once_ with everything from 2.03, but the 1.00.25.05 radio (which is the one from 1.93)? Doing it sequentually doesn't work.

So what I did, as the final solution:
Flash with stock 2.03 rom
HardSPL
Flash with 1.05.25 radio
Works perfect!

Hmm i did the other way round with my o2 XDA Diamond (1.93 Stock)
1. Hard SPL
2. New Radio Rom (1.09.25.23)
3. 2.03 official Ger HTC Rom (without vendor lock)
works great as well

I've seen this issue a couple of times too. With 1.93 as well as with 2.03. Did not figure out what was the cause but never had a chance to bring the device back to life with some uninstallation or radio flash. I always went back to the SPB Backup from the night before it stopped working propperly.

at&t tilt sound problem after incoming call

hi forum. i have been looking around to solve this problem but i wasn't able to find a solution yet so i am asking here.
i had a tilt working great, i had an accident and the phone is destroyed so i get another one.
it is the same phone but it just don't have the camera, this one came with a new version of windows mobile(6.1).
i am now having this issue, when i get an incoming call and i answer i can't hear anything from the other side and the other side can't hear me either.
after that, the phone gets totally muted, it don't make any more sound when sliding or whatever.
the only way to fix it is reboot the phone, that way i get sound again but after i get an incoming call the problem happens again.
the problem wasn't happening if i made the call but today i made a long call and after a while talking i got a constant buzz, the buzz only stopped after i turned off the phone.
any help will be apreciated as i am totally lost here.
thanks.

Have you tried flashing a different radio or a different ROM?

talking with my vendor it seems that he flashed the rom and maybe the porblem can be the radio.
i am reading here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 but i dont have idea wich radio should i download and either how to make the installation.
my device information is:
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
Rom date: 07/17/2008
Radio Version: 1.70.OliNex
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04H
so maybe the radio is not compatible with the rom and that is why i am having issues with the sound ?

That is a possibility. The nice part about flashing radios is that they are completely independent from the ROM. When you flash a radio it won't flash or reset your device. Therefore, you can flash and test as many radios as you want without any real negative side-effects Just stick with the one that ends up working the best for you!

Digital Outcast, thank you for your help.
do you think you or someone can point me to a tutorial to flash the radio only ?
i am finding how to update the rom but not the radio only.
thank you again.

To flash the radio follow the same steps as flashing the ROM. You need only the radio (.nbh file) and the Kaiser Custom RUU. Just don't do a hard-reset or anything after it completes!

cool, i installed a new radio and it fixed that problem, i am checking other common features of the phone, for now everything seems to be fine.
thank you very much for your help

Problem with incoming call
I have exactly the same problem and the same versions of software and firmware. Which version of the radio firmware did you install? Where did you get it? This is my first use of a smart phone and don't know much at all about where to get this.
Thanks!!

gladone said:
I have exactly the same problem and the same versions of software and firmware. Which version of the radio firmware did you install? Where did you get it? This is my first use of a smart phone and don't know much at all about where to get this.
Thanks!!
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Start by reading the stickies. Always best place to start. Or if you are lazy and wish to just jump to radios use this >link<. But I definitely recommend you read all the stickies before flashing a device for the first time. Just start with the newest radio and work backwards til you find a good one for your device.