Kaiser Dead - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hI,
My TYTN II deaded. When a I plug the power only the red light goes on. I did the procedure to put three batteries 1.5 v to charger the battery. After that, I plug the battery on cell phone and plugged the charger. The led goes ambar but after a I time goes back to red. I don´t know if the mobile is sending the correct voltage to battery. Some body know what is the voltage on the four pins in that the battery is put on the mobile? I measure betwen first e last pin and I haved 0.9V.Some body can confirm that?
Thanksssss

Looks like you have a bad charger. It should be 5 volts. Try a different charger if you have one or a USB port.

HI,
I tried other charger and usb port and have the same voltage on the pins on mobile. This voltage that I measured are back on the mobile where I plug the battery. I need to confirm what is the voltage on this pin to Know if I must change the battery or if my mobile has another problem.Thanks

SEARCH for Red Light Of Death (RLOD) And read the answers in there.

Hi, I searched for Red Light Of Death (RLOD) but there is no answer for my question that is: what is the voltagen in the pins or which voltage in each pin of back side of the mobile?. Thanks again

rquiterio said:
Hi, I searched for Red Light Of Death (RLOD) but there is no answer for my question that is: what is the voltagen in the pins or which voltage in each pin of back side of the mobile?. Thanks again
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I don't understand why you need to know that though. The Red light of death is a known issue and it's well documented in the relevant threads what to do about it. Although the HTC supplied chargers can be very poor quality, I had one completely fail after 4 uses or a couple of weeks, that wouldn't explain what you are experiencing. Do you have a different (spare) battery that you can swap in? Are you using the original HTC supplied mains charger? Have you tried carefully cleaning the gold connector springs on the phone and battery with a cotton bud/Q-tip and contact cleaner or IPA? I did have the problem of my battery only charging for a minute or so and then going off charge (with no light) but a terminal clean as above resolved that for me.

Flying Kiwi said:
I don't understand why you need to know that though. The Red light of death is a known issue and it's well documented in the relevant threads what to do about it. Although the HTC supplied chargers can be very poor quality, I had one completely fail after 4 uses or a couple of weeks, that wouldn't explain what you are experiencing. Do you have a different (spare) battery that you can swap in? Are you using the original HTC supplied mains charger? Have you tried carefully cleaning the gold connector springs on the phone and battery with a cotton bud/Q-tip and contact cleaner or IPA? I did have the problem of my battery only charging for a minute or so and then going off charge (with no light) but a terminal clean as above resolved that for me.
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Flying, I did the test that I founded in this site put the battery to be charger with 3 AA BAttery and after that, the mobile turn on.I put the charger ( I have two) the led changed to ambar,like as charging, but I saw that the mobile wasnt charging, because after a time the led goes RED again. Because this I would like to know the voltage, than I can determine where is the problem. I use the origina battery (SAMSUNG) e the 2 chargers that came with my mobile. thanks

Two Things.
First, People have solved the RLOD without knowing the Voltage. So I don't know why you knowing that the Battery Puts out 3.7VDC at 1350mAh would help you solve the problem.
Also, The reporting of Voltage information to the Windows subsystem is sometimes flaky and the only true indicator is the Amber Light.
Secondly, If you are having a RLOD and you want to know the voltage. Post that question in the RLOD thread. It will help the next person who has the RLOD and wants to know the voltage for whatever weird reason.

rquiterio said:
Flying, I did the test that I founded in this site put the battery to be charger with 3 AA BAttery and after that, the mobile turn on.I put the charger ( I have two) the led changed to ambar,like as charging, but I saw that the mobile wasnt charging, because after a time the led goes RED again. Because this I would like to know the voltage, than I can determine where is the problem. I use the origina battery (SAMSUNG) e the 2 chargers that came with my mobile. thanks
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If you're attempting to charge 3 AA cells for any length of time with the default charger, the different internal resistance/cell characteristics and the fact you have no temperature feedback thermistor signal may account for the red light after a while. My suggestion is to try cleaning the terminals on the battery and phone as already described with contact cleaner or IPA. Then commence the AA cell trick but remove the charge after just a short time (before the light goes red), shut it down and put in the original (cleaned terminal) battery and try again. If it still plays up, JimmyMcGee is right in that you should move over to the relevant pre-existing thread. Good luck.

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Lost all signs, phone doesn't turn on anymore(even on wall charger). Is it bricked??

Folks,
I was flashing CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE and the battery went down. The flashing procedure stopped at 85%.
After this incident I could not turn on the phone again. It spent all night recharging and nothing.
What should I do?
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Tmobile MDA VARIO
IPL 1.05
SPL 3.08
Wizard Love Rom
Did you charge it over night with the wall charger or with the sync cable? If Windows doesn't recognize the phone, as it might not since you were in the middle of flashing, it may not provide a charge through the sync cable. You might have just thought you were charging it but you weren't.
I was charging with the wall charger, and nothing happens at all (no lights, no bootloader)
Did I brick the phone?
Is there a way to brick the phone while flashing this rom and losing battery power or it's not bricked?
Try pulling your battery for 10 min or so and then put it back in. Phones don't usually get bricked by getting interupted in the middle of a flash. If they did, there would be a lot more people around here with bricked phones because I've see a whole lot of threads in here with people saying they got interupted in the middle of a flash. I don't think you should start worrying about that quite yet.
So I'm taking off the battery for a while, let's see what happens...
I can't see any signal even if the battery is out, and the wall charger is plugged anyway.
I've pull off the battery for about 20 minutes (battery was in refrigerator at this time) and nothing happened.
Is there anything else to do?
(ps:I'm not using the original wall charger...)
I've pull off the battery for about 20 minutes (battery was in refrigerator at this time) and nothing happened.
Is there anything else to do?
(ps:I'm not using the original wall charger...)
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Now I'm trying to do this below:
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OK here's the solution.
First of all, be aware that the MDA can NOT charge unless the OS is fully loaded. If for whatever reason your battery gets fully depleted, you have to do the following (it involves ruining a 5 $ cable and doing some surgery):
- first, go out and buy a new USB-to-mini-USB cable, unless you have 2 already (or one and the original charger)
- take out the battery
- take the USB-to-mini-USB cable, cut off the mini-USB plug and expose the four wires
- strip the red (+) and black (-) wire and twist the copper ends of each wire
- now CAREFULLY attach the right wire to the right connector on the battery (so + on + and - on -) and tape it there so it stays firmly on
- put the cable in your (running) PC or put the charger in the wall socket
- let the battery recharge for an hour or so, then put it back in the Wizard and reboot
- now when it is fully rebooted, you need the second cable to charge your Wizard completely, the way you're used to.
Worked for me! I've kept the ruined cable, just in case it happens again.
Good luck!
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Hope that works/worked for you, let me know if it does.
I made the cable, tried to recharge battery for 1 hour nd nothing again...no lights, no signs...still with a dead phone...
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Do you have access to a volt meter? If you do, check and see if you get any voltage on the battery at all. Maybe your battery is shot. Theres no reason for your phone to be bricked so I wouldn't give up just yet.
Theres also another trick that someone else having a similar problem in another post reminded me of to jump start your battery. It involves a 9v battery and a couple of wires (bread ties will work if you don't have any wires laying around). It's pretty much the same thing as the charger thing to an extent. You take the 9v battery and attach the wires(bread ties) from the - to the minus on your cell battery and + to + but only do that for 10 seconds and then remove them, wait 30 seconds and then do it again for 10 seconds. Repeat that 10 times and then put the battery back in to the phone and connect the charger. If that doesn't jump start it your battery might be gone for good.
Thanx, I'll try it too.
Maybe tomorrow I'll have access to a second battery with a friend of mine.(fully charged and working battery)
Do you know why is the phone not showing any lights? Is there any explanation (for the case it's not bricked)?
If the battery is completely drained it won't take a charge (this is actually a well known issue with wizards) the charge lights won't come on because they are actually taking their current straight from the battery.
if you not using charger that came with phone thats probably your issue charger that came with phone is 1amp most secondary chargers are 500ma
I think the phone is really dead now.
I´ve put my friend´s battery in my phone and nothing happened. (no signs)
My battery worked with my friend's phone too...
What are the solutions now? A new motherboard?
vdalesandro said:
I think the phone is really dead now.
I´ve put my friend´s battery in my phone and nothing happened. (no signs)
My battery worked with my friend's phone too...
What are the solutions now? A new motherboard?
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I've just reread your initial post and i think you're both guilty and unlucky. Guilty for acknowledging the RUU warning about using a charged battery (check boxes) and unlucky because the flashing might have stopped while writing to the IPL zone.
So i do think that new board is the only solution here. Sorry.
Where are cheap boards for sale?

tilt totally dead, cannot recharge, cannot turn on, help.

hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.
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Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.
I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.
Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.
i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
tiltyoself said:
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.
This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
2.
A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike
i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.
Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.
called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?
before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?
yeah all the connectors visually are fine.

Xperia X1 dead?

I am currently having problems with my X1 powering on.
I understand there has been a post on the forums regarding this subject I have read through it the symptoms of my phone are similar but I wanted to make sure.
The problem I have is 2 days ago my phone was low on batt so I plugged it into the charger [MBW bluetooth watch wall mount to USB]. Left it there and the next day I noticed the battery is completely drained. Try to power it on and red lights go on at the power button.
I've looked up on how to fix the problems followed the procedures and still no luck. Now the thing that is slightly different with my phone is sometimes the red lights are on at the power switch... but sometimes the red lights blink on the phones side LED's I understand the side LED's also blink to show low battery / errors.... so thats the part which is making me worry.
I was wondering if anyone had any insight to the problem or maybe possible solutions?
Thank you all for spending the time to read this.
did you leave the batt really low? and what methods have you tried so far?
because what happened is that you probably unbalanced your battery (if I'm understanding correctly). I've had a similar problem as well with my previous x1.
just wondering though, you didn't do any mods to your ROM did you? if you didn't. you may be able to send the phone back to sony ericsson (if it's under warrenty) to replace it to get a new one.
just as a suggestion if you end up getting a new x1 or just a new battery that works. don't leave it until it's almost out to charge it. charge it maybe once a day or every other day (ensuring that your battery wont' die on you again).
asian_boi said:
did you leave the batt really low?
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Fr0stN0va said:
phone was low on batt so I plugged it into the charger [MBW bluetooth watch wall mount to USB]. Left it there and the next day I noticed the battery is completely drained. Try to power it on and red lights go on at the power button.
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asian_boi said:
what methods have you tried so far?
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Clean conductors
Charge battery in wall mount .... pull out the battery place it back in charge again and hope it works [apparently some ppl pulled it off] tried for 2 days.
Soft reset switch
asian_boi said:
you didn't do any mods to your ROM did you?
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Yup it was one of the TouchFlo ROMs
I've ordered another battery but until then I'm still open to opinions on solutions.
Also does it mean anything if it randomly switchs from a red light on the power button to the LED on the sides flashing red.
Fr0stN0va said:
Clean conductors
Charge battery in wall mount .... pull out the battery place it back in charge again and hope it works [apparently some ppl pulled it off] tried for 2 days.
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Another thing you can try is one of the cheap $2 USB Pocket Universal Li-Ion Chargers - they aren't as sensitive as the X1 itself is, and since you can take the battery out of the X1 for charging it's a safer way to charge a problem battery like this one seems to be at the moment. If you have a spare battery anyway, then you'd want an external charger anyway to charge it without having to take off the case and change batteries every time. Also since it's USB it is low voltage and low amperage.
I had the same problem with the Red light below the button being on - and leaving the battery in one of these chargers for about 10 minutes had it charged enough that it worked with no problems again when I put it back in my X1 and I've been using the same battery ever since without a problem (for about a month now).
Hope that helps,
Peter
P.S. The "MBW bluetooth watch wall mount to USB charger" you were using might not have a high enough amperage for the X1 to charge well and that might be part of the problem. The X1's original USB charger is 700 mA, which is beyond the spec of the average USB wall plug (some of which are as low as 150-300 mA). Not getting enough amps at the proper voltage can cause the sorts of problems you are reporting. Using the actual X1 charger might help as well - though I still recommend the cheap $2 Universal USB Li-Ion chargers for emergencies.

Charging light flashes green and red

Hello,
I have bought this Battery for my HD2. If i charge my hd2 with it when windows mobile is running the charging light flashes between green and red and the Battery status goes from 55% on 100%. but if i shutdown the phone and charge it, it is normal. have anybody got an idea why this happens and how to fix it?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650507
I have the same problem with a china battery and waiting for a replacement. My other hd2 with the htc battery works fine.
my stock battery done that at the weekend when i was charging it from the car, whilst runnin tomtom.
my guess is its a warning its pumping out more juice than its recieveing! like when you charge it from your cmputer.... it takes longer.
nothing to worry about id say
No!!! Thats a whole nother issue. Your car charger is crap, just like mine was before i got a rocketfish charger. I had the SAME issue with my tilt2 while running the sense music player while using my old crap car charger. The charger later died and have not had the problem since getting the new rocketfish charger and i used the tilt2 in the car the same way MANY times after that
mine was doing the same when was using more power than pumping ftom the wall charger. phone was very hot at this time
I found a solution - That Happens to me only on hot sunny summer days.....
jemand95 said:
Hello,
I have bought this Battery for my HD2. If i charge my hd2 with it when windows mobile is running the charging light flashes between green and red and the Battery status goes from 55% on 100%. but if i shutdown the phone and charge it, it is normal. have anybody got an idea why this happens and how to fix it?
Thanks
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That Happens to me only on hot sunny summer days... when my HD2 is mounted on my car dash board and becomes hot due to the sun.
I learnd from the local HTC distributer that "flashing green/red" means that: The HD became hot, due to the hot environment / sun, and therefore activated its internal protection and disconected the charging facility in order to defend the battery.
After cooling the HD2 that phenomenon stops and charging is as usual.
My solution is:
In order to cool the HD2 while driving and avoid that problem, I operate my car air condition unit and direct its cool air flow only to the front glass. Not to the passengers as usual. That is in the same way you direct the air flow in order remove steam from the front car glass during winter days.
The cool air from the air condition, heats the glass and goes back towards the passengers. On its way it cools the black HD2 which stands in the sun on my dash board.
I know it is not the best solution but its the cheapest working one.
I wish u all good luck
Check the middle battery connector prong in the phone hasnt bent in such away it isnt actually making contact with the terminal on the battery as this is exactly what happened to me and gave the same symptoms.
A little corrective adjustment with a pair of tweezers and problem solved.
It seems to be OK
crash_194 said:
Check the middle battery connector prong in the phone hasnt bent in such away it isnt actually making contact with the terminal on the battery as this is exactly what happened to me and gave the same symptoms.
A little corrective adjustment with a pair of tweezers and problem solved.
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Thanks for the advise.
However it seems to be ok and with no deviation.
correct power input
it flashes if u get the wrong input with car chargers.it happened to me plus it dosent charge even after charging with phpne off.so i bought the correct power input charger.problem solved.
I sometimes get this also while using TomTom in the car on a hot day.
I repositioned the holder in front of the centre air vent, and let fresh air flow over the device.
Hasn't happened since.
It basically means "I'm not charging because there's a problem" either because the phone is too hot, or because there's a problem with the battery.
Last week I bought the extra large battery with kickstand for use while on holiday next week, same problem with charging from the 1A wall charger (original HTC battery charges fine) straight away so the flashing doesn't just mean "overheat"
Sent the battery back and should get a replacement in the next few days.
I use a 650mA charger in the car (I have a 1A charger but the contact needs resoldering) and while using movie player, tomtom and browsing, it popped up with a message that the device drain was greater than the charger could provide so it disabled charing, amber light went out rather than flashing green/amber.
ok, in total i have 4 normal batteries and 2x mugen 2600. (i have 2x HD2)
yes there are batteries that flash red/green.
from what i observed. with screen on, 0%-95% the batttery usually accepts around +700mah to +850mah.
once 96% it trickles down to less than +500mah
for those flashing, the battery still charges. it's just that the curcuitry is warning that the battery doesnt want to accept the normal charging amp.
so when it flashes it's doing around 300-500 when it's below 96%.
i have 2 batteries that shows the same problem on both HD2. but they still charge, it just takes longer to hit 100% charge that's all.
if it's flashing red/green, the battery is not capable of high charge, only normal charge of around 100-3xx mah.
feel free to correct me.
oh, the circuit allows max of 950mah input, i know cuz i have a 4Ah USB charger.
crash_194 said:
Check the middle battery connector prong in the phone hasnt bent in such away it isnt actually making contact with the terminal on the battery as this is exactly what happened to me and gave the same symptoms.
A little corrective adjustment with a pair of tweezers and problem solved.
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This solved it for me.
Thanks!

Replacement Battery won't charge

My replacement battery (looks the exact same, may be a generic product, though) worked fine for a few days, but then the phone started saying: "Battery can't charge right now," and the batter level just stayed the same with the cable connected. I tried various cables and adapters; the situation didn't change. I read that maybe a missing temperature sensor could be the issue. Does anybody have experience related to the issue?
rex_vitis said:
My replacement battery (looks the exact same, may be a generic product, though) worked fine for a few days, but then the phone started saying: "Battery can't charge right now," and the batter level just stayed the same with the cable connected. I tried various cables and adapters; the situation didn't change. I read that maybe a missing temperature sensor could be the issue. Does anybody have experience related to the issue?
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Same trouble here! Did you solve it?
Luis Augustus said:
Same trouble here! Did you solve it?
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Battery and rom are probably not the problem, i've solved this with replacement of USB C charging port in the phone.
I repeated the process with the same battery, and I haven't had problems in over a year. just took it out, put it back in, and that settled it.
why you replaced the battery, battery dead ?
what are the symptoms ?
because my phone is restarting itself , while charging it shows 90 percent and so on, its on when charger plugged in and if unplug it will stay on for few min and if i open app or camera it start reboot
I've had the same problem
I've replaced battery with an aliexpress one but after some charges problem came back and I think the problem was about I was charging my phone with the wrong charger (was using the Aukey QC3.0), so I've started to charge my phone only with the genuine charger but with another USB-C cable because the genuine one sucks.
After using the genuine charger the problem never came back and I left the genuine battery on It.
I've noticed that the USB-C port on my phone miss the original standard measures of height and width of the hole, so when I plug the cable It plays a little in the port and this is the cause I don't use the genuine cable.
Guy guys guys...
The answer is simple ^^ (ok not really )
Clean your USB C charging port of your phone... that fixed 3 to 4 times my charging issues, sadly after I had bought several cables /batteries...
So first think you must do before checking any other thing... is getting all the crap that the USB C charging entry point has after so many years/months of usage... it gets quite dirty.

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