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WM6 HTC_Charmer Works

Okay I wanted to Apologize to everyone, It took some time to get my device flashed to WM6 and it’s know where I wanted. The only difference I did is not allowing the extrom to customize with HR.
No need to put any guide out if you read the forums you will get wm6 working.
Thanks.
Window Mobile6(thx 2 Vlodeck & Nocturne)
Rom version: 10.2.0.8 WWE
Rom date: 2/03/07
Radio version:02.19.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.09

Your charmer is just the same as with mine.
I think it is just setup problem why you can not connect to GPRS.
I have flashed a TouchFlo version WM6 to my charmer (WWE version), it works well.

that you cannot flash wm6 does not mean others can't, so please stop shouting "wm6 does not work".
many people are using it - and many people are satisfied with it - imho this is proving that WM6 works. most of this people ha CIDs locked devices - and they have no problems. I don't khow why you have yor problems, but you have just few possibilities:
1) you are lazy to read forums and finding solutions, or
2) you do not understand what are you reading about or
3) you are using some really old radio and this may be the negative effect, or
4) your charmer is somehow damaged machine, bad memmory blocks or stuff like that
Remember, that charmer is just one, there are no variants, no different generations. All your problems are pointing to something, that must be completely different from others. Focus on radio at first...you have the old one (the same I have - mine works fine)
Another thing that may affect the gameplay is your computer - try to flash from another one. There are no more possibilities.

Ulymanchild said:
1. I’ve tried RUU update with wm6 essentials.002 and it wouldn’t flashed
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it means JUST that your device is CID locked
Ulymanchild said:
2. Tried shelltool flashing & xbeta, and extracted OS and it worked, but it had bugs with elatepushservice.exe and not able to go GPRS Internet.
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search for differences - nobody has the same problems
Ulymanchild said:
3. Repeated the process and 3-5 times and if you’re not careful you may crash you phone ( I did) had to get a new one.
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Unlock your phone and you will never brick it. If you are rather buying new machine than finding solutions, get rid of WM devices, buy Nokia and leave us alone.
Ulymanchild said:
4. New phone has IPL: 2.06.001 SPL: 2.06.001 and it’s now even harder to try to flash
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harder? It's the same, why should it be harder?
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5. Able to flash WWE but it’s still wm5, oh well I guess I will wait two months and get a HTC_Touch but it will need to learn to Flash from German to English.
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mentioned 1000 times in this forum...I cannot believe that somebody can still ask this...

The purpose of my thread was not to attack anyone. I think the information and effort here is very good and all the people like yourself and others developers are doing an outstanding job!
When you try and try and fail, I know it’s frustrating and some of us continue to try. I know I’m not done trying; I still want to be able to have my Charmer to operate under WM6.
I want to make it clear to everyone; I did take my time to read all the forums.
(PLEAES READ FORUMS PPL)
I’m not saying don’t try upgrading, (PLEASE DO TRY!) and don’t give up, take a break to clear your head and find other means to your goal.
All I’m giving is a caution. I flashed my device with out taking my time to go thru the step’s and it crashed. Lucky the T-mobile Company replaced it because my contract is not up!!!!
And lasting thing before I go, I’m not attacking anyone this is General for all!!! I thought forums were for discussions purpose and to help each other find solutions. So when I put information out here, it’s to see if anyone had same issues and maybe give me a some idea to resolve.

Yuking said:
I have flashed a TouchFlo version WM6 to my charmer (WWE version), it works well.
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you flashed a touchflo version to charmer?
tried to find it, but no way! where can i find this ROM?
rgds,
ap0ll0

ap0ll0 said:
you flashed a touchflo version to charmer?
tried to find it, but no way! where can i find this ROM?
rgds,
ap0ll0
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Touchflo version sounds good. Where, where, where!!!!!

People, please do not get so excited about that touchFLO. Firstly, it doesnt work as it should. You have to press softkey to launch it first. Secondly its slow and inconvenient.
And thirdly, happy to hear that Ulymanchild finally got the wm6 issue sorted out

vlodeck said:
People, please do not get so excited about that touchFLO. Firstly, it doesnt work as it should. You have to press softkey to launch it first. Secondly its slow and inconvenient.
And thirdly, happy to hear that Ulymanchild finally got the wm6 issue sorted out
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vlodeck, have you tried the Wizard versions then?
I just like to try new things out, if I didn't i would still be on my original T-Mobile wm5 rom.
cheers

Sorry, these two days I did not come to here.
Here is the URL of TouchFlo version of WM6 (Charmer), but it is in Chinese. (Fantastic B4, with Touch FLO for 818+).
You should register first.
http://www.it1861.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5480&page=1&fromuid=2244#pid36089
PS1: This rom is not created by me! I just quote it~
PS2: If you can not download it or do not want to register, just tell me a place I can upload it.
PS3: My charmer: 3.08.0001/3.08.0001
Thanks.

vlodeck said:
People, please do not get so excited about that touchFLO. Firstly, it doesnt work as it should. You have to press softkey to launch it first. Secondly its slow and inconvenient.
And thirdly, happy to hear that Ulymanchild finally got the wm6 issue sorted out
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Yes, I agree with you strongly. I don not think using TouchFLO is a good way to operate my charmer. I flashed it and tried it, but I will not use it again but show it to others.

Vlodeck, I wanted to thank you for those kinds words also, I wanted to put out that it was allot easier for me to bootload essential v.002 by extracting the nk.nbf and placed it on 000.4. I think the trick was nb2nbf_wizard.
Oh and I was able to cid unlock with Lokiwiz03 after I flashed to wm6 YOU GUY’s ARE THE BEST!

HTC 3600 and Dopod WM6

did someone tried the dopod wm6 rom on an HTC 3600?
Thanks

I did.
Works very well for me. No bug at all. I'm happy with it.

what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
Thanks

gerazzo said:
what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
Thanks
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I've upgraded my P3600 to WM6 (Australian ROM)
GPS - First detection is slow IMHO. After that it runs great.
Changes in speed - No changes so far I have noticed, in other words it still runs fast
Battery life - Is great depending on your usage. Just disable your infrared. That alone makes a lot of difference.

Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
Thanks

gerazzo said:
Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
Thanks
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Does it matter where I got it from?.. Or do you want to know where you can get it?..
http://rapidshare.com/files/42337174/D810_ANZ_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip
I do not know what and if there is a difference is between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM.
I just know that the ROM I used didn't have customized DOPOD screenlogo's/programs etc installed AND that I have only one issue since running this ROM but I think it's WM6 related:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318013

All the OFFICIAL ROMs providing wm6 for trinity, so far, are from Dopod, including the rapidshare link above.
This is why it's called: 'D810' and not HTC P3600 in the link.
You may notice very few Dopod's customization, but it's still a ROM from Dopod, you can see, for instance, some Dopod's ringtones in the alarms and ring lists.
As far as the localized operator settings are concerned, I can't tell, since I did not install their extended ROM, I don't have any either, except for the ring tones I just mentioned before.
Regarding the new ROM performances, I think it has increased a lot from the previous April wm5 release from HTC: faster, better look etc.
The GPS is a little bit faster, but not much faster, but I think it has more to do with the new radio.
For example I could not get any fix with the 1.46.00.01 one from SEA. But it works quite well with the 1.46.20.01, from ANZ.
The most impressive improvement is the wifi connexion, which is stable, and fast. (it was a disaster with previous radios, especially the 1.38.x series.

Just to make myself more clear:
1)
I know all the trinity ROMs are made by HTC. What I meant is not 'made by Dopod' but, branded, designed for Dopod.
2)
I have read here before that wifi has nothing to do with radio but just with the ROM itself. I don't know, but what I can tell is that, the previous wm5 plus 1.38/1.41 radio series had always given me poor wifi performance.
But wm6 with 1.46. series is perfect in terms of wifi perfs.

At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
Thanks

gerazzo said:
At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
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No, there are no garantees.
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
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I use the Australian ROM and all the features of my P3600 work.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
Thanks
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Since there are no garantees there is a choice to be made. The P3600 is still unique in his features. It's the ONLY Window Mobile based PDA with 3G enabled and GPS onboard.
And what you do want to consider is that even if HTC releases a WM6 for Europe, there are no garantees that the ROM won't have any flauds.

Exactly, there is never 100% garantee to be fully satisfied and get no default or bug. This is why the reseller is there to offer you a one year garantee, so if you fancy the specs of the device go for it.
I don't want to start any debate about which programmers have more skills and more time to do proper job.
Individual ROM cooks are amazing and none of us will ever reach their skill levels, and they do it for free, just for the pleasure of sharing with us, so we owe them the greatest respect for that.
But obviously , after having tried both, I confirm that there are less conflicts and bugs in the official ROM than in the cooked ones.
Also because they take more risks by adapting applications that where not designed for the device (ex: touchflo and kaiser interfaces in trinity)
But I do believe that new cooked ROM from now on will be far more reliable than they were in before (wm6 ones), mainly because they now have a stable basis (the official dopod release) to make their own developments on.
So the difference might be slighter and slighter in those respects.

Explicit instructions for a dummy
Does this ROM update go as easy as the GPS unlock update?
I've done ROM updates that made you go through several activities and I just screw them up.
I'm looking for the simple version.
Jerry

Tried this and no luck
I have an HTC branded and unlocked P3600
I got this error:
Error 294 - Invalid Vendor ID
This update utility cannot be used for your PDA Phone.
Ideas?

No, it is not as easy as the GPS update ROM, and cannot be compare as you just experienced it because:
- it's not a HTC release, it's a DOPOD release, aiming at Dopod D810 clients, from South-east Asia and Australia-New-zealand.
- the ROM is heavy protected by its SPL to not install onto other CID devices.
- The previous Hard-spl crack doesn't work anymore and if you try to install it: luckily u'll get an error it will refuse to install, unluckily, it will get stuck in the middle of the install and you might even brick your device.
That's why you could not manage to install it. There are plenty of topics over this issue on this forum, you can try one of those workarounds, but take all responsibility if something unlucky happens during the upgrade process.
By the way: SIM unlocked, doesn't mean CID unlock, you can install any SIM card you want from any provider, but your phone's CID still belong to a language, a geographical area, and a manufacturer, which is HTC, not DOPOD ;-)

Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios

pinocchios said:
Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios
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no chance without spl bla bla stuff?
i just want to excute and install :-(

that is it..
read the link I gave you. it is very simple.
copy this file to your pocketpc and execute it! works in 10seconds..

I clearly should do more reading before attempting this
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?

I told you so...
1)
Don't think it's easy and simple, every one got different skills and experience and you don't help the noobies by saying "flashing a SPL protected ROM is 'easy and simple, just use your brain'...
Better being warned of the worst, if you want to do your best...
2)
There is a sticky thread in this forum about 'how to unbrick or unstuck you phone after having failed to flash the Dopod's ROM.
Read it CAREFULLY and try it out.
3)
Next time you try, use Olibro SPL or, more simple and safe for beginners, try to flash a ROM without SPL/IPL.

hitekfun said:
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?
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can you give more info on where you're stuck? (what is shown on bootloader screen). i'm assuming you've tried a soft reset to exit bootloader...
it's not that hard to flash a rom, the official dopod wm6 included. follow the guide here which will allow you to flash it without the new spl. it's still recommended to flash hard spl before a ROM flash to be safe.

Need Help!

Guys I am new on this forum and it's great
But i need some help, i have bought my Touch Diamond in Switzerland where i live, but when i login HTC e-club i still see that the newest rom is the one i had when i bought the phone, and that's 1.35.408.4 ITA.
Is there any way i can update my phone to the lastest ROM, and if yes wich one is it, and how do i have to update my phone?
Thank you very much guys

If the downloadable rom at the HTC website is the same as the one in your phone, what makes you think there's a newer official rom? There's a lot of rom's being cooked here, but those are not official. And perhaps in Hong Kong there's a newer version, and if that one works fine I'm sure they will make a Swiss or Italian rom of it. Unless you can read Chinese on your Diamond

ok i know that im a noob, but could you please tell me how to check the version on the e-club site of the rom? i dont know how to check it thx

We all have to start some day
I'm not aware yet of how to check it, the only way I've figured out is by the filename it's downloading. It gives you several numbers eg. RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.37.401.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship.exe . 1.37.401.3 = ROM, 1.00.25.03 = Radio.. 52.26a.25.09 = Protocol. Then you can still decide to cancel or continue downloading.

Need help finding out whats been done to my Tilt.

Hi!
This week I bought a Tilt secondhand. I'm sure that some work has been done to it. First I noticed that the previous owner has using a non AT&T SIM, I'm an AT&T subscriber, so at least it's sim unlocked. Then I noticed that when I turn it on there's no AT&T animation, there's a HTC animation. I also noticed that when I turn it on or soft reset it, after the "Smart Computing" comes up, there're some numbers in the lower right corner.
R: 1.65.17.56
G: 25.83.40.02H
D: 3.28.00.00
I registered here before I decided to buy the Tilt and I read many of the treads, so I know that many kinds of ROMs and programming exists for this device. So, what I want to know is how do I know what was done, installed, changed to this Tilt?
Thanks

Maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like whoever last owned the device flashed an HTC ROM onto it.
Dave

Easy. Go to Start>Settings>System>Device Information You should be able to read the ROM version installed.

Yeah I guessed they changed the original rom, the rom installed is 3.28.405.0 WWE, DATE 05/02/08, radio 1.65.17.56 & protocol 25.83.40.02H. Still that doesn't tell me much.

I need to know which of all the ROM I read mentioned on the forums is the one installed, I need to know if there's a better alternative & I need to read a whole lot more to understand all my options here.

you just need to flash and find out for yourself don't ask "what is the best rom" its a matter of opinion and you can get banned for asking that.
here are some links to get you started with flashing
ROM flashing FAQ
Introduction to ROM flashing
MODS PLEASE CLOSE THREAD

Headroom said:
I need to know which of all the ROM I read mentioned on the forums is the one installed, ...
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Simply compare it with the SHIPPED ROM List in the WIKI! I am sure they flashed the ORIGINAL SHIPPED HTC Rom ... ! BTW: If it is the original AT&T Tilt, then they have (for sure) performed a SIM UNLOCK and in addition a CID UNLOCK. From my point of view, I do not concider an item as NEW if someone did this to a device!
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... I need to read a whole lot more to understand all my options here.
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Yeah, I guess you really have to do some READ-UP! Start here ...

Thanks Junner2003!!
This is the kind of information I was looking for. I suppose that the higher the rom number, the more updated the rom is?

In general: it is a newer ROM if the number is higher. However, that does not necessary mean that the ROM is better. Newer ROMs contain for sure BUG FIXES for older ROMs but mostly contain a whole bunch of new bugs as well.
If you stick with an older ROM, it has the advantage that often users came up with a BUG FIX for well known issues or at least they can provide some kind of workaround.

OK so I checked the ROM Wiki and found my rom number (3.28.405.0 WWE). Would it be correct to say that the upgrade would be 3.34.721.2 WWE? Is the country code what defines what I can use?
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I must be real slow because I get timeout & have to relogin before I can finish an answer to any post.

Headroom said:
OK so I checked the ROM Wiki and found my rom number (3.28.405.0 WWE). Would it be correct to say that the upgrade would be 3.34.721.2 WWE? Is the country code what defines what I can use?
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I must be real slow because I get timeout & have to relogin before I can finish an answer to any post.
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WWE is World Wide English so if you speak English it would probably not be a good idea to flash a rom in a foreign language like Australian or something.
Yes it is the newest rom , released in Oct
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439408

Rom Updates / Customs roms (from a newbie)

Hi All,
I've just got my new Touch HD but have never entered the world of custom roms before.
My current ROM is 1.14.405.3 (22273) WWE dated 10/24/08. I've just updated the radio version to 1.10.25.25. My HD seems quite slow and generally I'm quite disappointed with it. That said I was quite disappointed with my HTC Tytn until HTC released a new rom.
From reading this forum there seem to be many happy people so I suspect that the software in my phone is more at fault. I've seen the new Arabian rom that has been posted. It obviously won't install on my UK model (I'm not tied to a mobile carrier) without me tinkering, but I wondered if there would be any benefit in me uploading it. Does it invalidate my warranty or can I reset the original rom should I need it repaired?
As a rule do custom rom makers use the latest offical release and then tweak them? What are the benefits?
I'm sorry for so many newbie questions. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction of some great "simple" instructions I would be grateful.
Regards
Jonathan

jay_bee007 said:
Hi All,
I've just got my new Touch HD but have never entered the world of custom roms before.
My current ROM is 1.14.405.3 (22273) WWE dated 10/24/08. I've just updated the radio version to 1.10.25.25. My HD seems quite slow and generally I'm quite disappointed with it. That said I was quite disappointed with my HTC Tytn until HTC released a new rom.
From reading this forum there seem to be many happy people so I suspect that the software in my phone is more at fault. I've seen the new Arabian rom that has been posted. It obviously won't install on my UK model (I'm not tied to a mobile carrier) without me tinkering, but I wondered if there would be any benefit in me uploading it. Does it invalidate my warranty or can I reset the original rom should I need it repaired?
As a rule do custom rom makers use the latest offical release and then tweak them? What are the benefits?
I'm sorry for so many newbie questions. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction of some great "simple" instructions I would be grateful.
Regards
Jonathan
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hi bro welcome to XDA.
Everything regarding flashing, upgrading and choosing from cookded roms , official roms and valuable information can be found here for Touch HD thank to HDUSER for updating here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
good luck

The first couple of pages in the wiki are a bit complex if you're new to all this and have never customised your phone. Loads of unneccessary info (which is nice to know, but not always important). The easiest way by far to flash your ROM would be using SPL and flashing from your SDcard. Search the forum, as there one or two threads specifically abpout flashing for n00bs.
There's one specifically I'm thinking about which really helped me out, but I have no idea anymore which one it is and I can't be arsed to search for it for you Search is your friend (search for: flashing ROM n00b newbie).