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There are so many cube systems I am getting confused. Can someone explain the different variants, there is one in C++ also.
thanks
Touchflo: The underlying program that makes it all possible. Allows you to use swipes to start/close/rotate the cube.
SCLPF= Not a true cube (see later). Needs PocketFlash running in the background. Can be a bit of a memory hog.
SCLC++= Coded in..you guessed it...C++ with the edgelib library. A True cube (ie has 6 proper sides). Faster and snazzier.
Obviously the above is an over-simplification. There are also other cubes out there - but I haven't tried them. The only thing I can suggest is for you to have a go and see which suits you best. At the moment I'm using SCLPF and am very happy with it.
I also like this one it works great and looks really nice..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory
chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...
crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier
looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.
I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
someone1234 said:
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
adamz said:
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
slickvic said:
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.
so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up
I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.
Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418
I'm about fed up with TouchFlo 3D, nice but pretty useless and I REALLY miss the Cube from my Touch Dual, much more convenient and doens't waste CPU cycles, so...has anyone installed it on the Diamond ?
Found a few existing CUBE topics, but not sure if there might not be interference and if a VGA skin is needed.
Topics : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348437
Ok had to hard reset...
Was hopeful after a post by SecureGSM :
"HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings:
also, there is one that is suppose to enable cube finctionality there:
EnableCube : default value (0) <--change that to (1)"
But not working for me.
Its not so simple as switching cube on. Cube is simply not there in our Diamond. If u try to install this Cube configurator from the Elf thread, u'll see a multitude of errors, missing files, etc. Cube may be functional here, but we'll be needing all those files
Yes, that sucks, the CUBE is x times more useful than TouchFlo 3D IMHO.
There must be a way though because it was added to non touch devices.
i dun think we'll have to descend to the non touch method, they use flash. i'm sure if we can get the Touch Cruise for example, and get their files, and put it in, it should work? i think
Catching up, I also thought this would do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348437 but so far no luck either.
bump - hope someone can figure it out ;-)
Another bump, that would be such a useful addition, I'm sure the bright minds around here can figure how to add the Cube back ;-)
have u tried Touch Commander?
Not sure, got a link ? I tried the tools linked in the first message and no go, had to hard reset.
I know a guy who might be very good at this ... Duttie or something like that
Unfortunatly, he is not around (yet)
Sounds good, hope he joins us soon !
Have you considered something like this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
There are a couple of other similar GUIs out there and the good thing about them that they all VGA optimized.
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http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
and it's variation by GSmart
http://www.smartdevicefreeware.com/gsmart-windows-mobile-touch-gui/
Thanks, but what I like about the cube is up and down the gesture to bring the contact list and then left to right for the various tools. The Contact list would be enough actually.
bumping it up ;-)
obender said:
to add one more
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
and it's variation by GSmart
http://www.smartdevicefreeware.com/gsmart-windows-mobile-touch-gui/
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gsmart just buggerd up my diamond....
i won't be trying that again in a hurry
this looks good if they can get it to fit our screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417825
Any news guys ? I was so happy with my Touch Cruise but bought the Diamond for the 640x480 screen and faster video playback.
The TouchFlow 3D looks fine but it's very useless to me, The old TouchFlo Cube from the cruise could be swept away and you had your normal windows todayscreen.
I tried the Cube thing SPD Mobile Shell but the old originall CUBE is way better I think.
Any solutions ?
Bump!!! I Want The Cube!!!!!!
same here, in fact I want it so much I've stuck with the HTC Touch Dual, aka Nike !
Is there any cabs out there that I can install on my Tilt to have the same looks and effects?
For Reference:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/htc_fuze_black_l.jpg
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/11/11/htctouchpro_wideweb__470x388,0.jpg
Yeah....use search next time.
Are you referring to these? (screenshots below)
They are all taken on my tilt. It uses the old beta of touchflo 3D, diamond tf3dc config, and the at&t theme posted in the diamond forum.
What does not work is the touchflo 3d still will not let you power your device down, randomly freezes, and is very very slow.
Edit, and i almost forgot the resizing that the smaller screens have to do makes it look 'dirty' and not so clean cut as the original.
I was referring to this:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/htc_fuze_black_l.jpg
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/11/11/htctouchpro_wideweb__470x388,0.jpg
The screen shot seems to show Manila working in landscape mode.
That is already in touchflo 3D, though, not working.
An alternative was something for manilla 2D that uses mortscript and shows a display much like that. Its somewhere in development and hacking.
Thanks I really appreciate it as well as your awesome sig. It certainly explains why I couldn't find a cab when I did a search.
No problem. I just wish I could tell you what the name of it was, but I don't remember (as I never used or had a need for it.)
I have visual studio 2008 professional, and one of the project types is for smart phones. I created a simple app, loaded it up, and it worked (just a hello world app.)
The problem is, the touch pro is VGA, and in VS2008 they give you only a certain area to work with. I can stretch everything out to 480x640, but is this correct? Is there a way to show a touch pro in my work space instead of the generic smartphone they have?
If there is a sticky somewhere that I missed or another thread talking about getting started, please forgive me and let me know, thanks for your time.
VGA Emulators
I don't have VS in front of me at the moment, but you can stretch the canvas to the correct size. There are new VGA emulators in the mobile sdk refresh that you will also want to install. link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3A-A651-4745-88EF-3D48091A390B&displaylang=en
hope this helps.