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Two days ago I downloaded a new interface which seems to be working great on the AT&T Tilt... Was just curious if anyone else has any experience with it? I think they released it on the 31st..
www.pointui.com
Hi,look at this post,i don't use it,but people give their opinion.
I have been trying it today. I actually like it in terms of turning the device into a dumbphone.
It disables the hardware buttons, but a quick press of the red end call key and you are back to the today screen and can use hardware buttons.
PointUI
I have just started using it, but on a VGA Exec. It does not support VGA but still works (everything is smaller than it should be). If they release a VGA version I will definitly use it as even with on the VGA screen it is fantastic.
I was looking for a touch style interface and have used HTC cube (various versions), and also the Ipod style inteface. All of them are close but not quite there.
For me, PointUI is there....It is the best I have seen and possibly because it is not emulating other devices it realy hits the mark.
I will install on my wizard for the moment until they release the VGA version.
As a last note does anyone know if you can drop the resolution on a EXEC? Sound a dumb question but I would like to use PointUI as it should be.
Tried it right when it was released on my Tilt. My initial impressions:
1. Lots of potential.
2. Very slick animation
3. Needs quite a bit of work and polishing before I consider using it.
3a. Did not match my theme, so odd color issues on the top bar.
3b. Needs to be cusomizable to use my preferred programs.
3c. I like my today page as i have it setup that shows all the info I need in one place. PointUI is nice eye candy, but does not give me that one stop shop.\
I don't know I may be the odd one out as everyone seems to like it so much.
I somehow am of the opinion that a combination of SPB PocketPlus and SPB Mobile Shell is a far more efficient and effective interface. Though just my opinion
http://phone.msndirect.com/phone/download.html
I cannot get it to work on the Kaiser, has anyone tried this yet?
Won't install for me either. Says it's not intended for this device.
I'm running v3.0 Sleuth. Could be it doesn't like WinMo 6.1, but I have no way to verify that unless I reflash.
I have a t-mobile Wing and it doesn't work either. I think it is because all the phones listed as supported are smartphones (without touch screen).
Anyone know a work-around install for touch screen based units?
Just look at the name of the file it installs: SP50.cab = SP= Smartphone.
I've adjusted the CAB a little to allow it to install on a Kaiser. But when installed it's not 100%.
It installs, you can run the MSNDirect.exe through File Explorer, but as the controls are geared towards SmartPhone, it's not all that usable
Perhaps someone with additional skills can tweak it.
Is it possible for someone to tweak the program to be more touch friendly?
I'm pretty bummed about this. I've had a SPOT watch for years and would really like to have it on my Kaiser.
I have a Dash sitting on a shelf at home, that my wife didn't want, but I really can't switch to a Dash for MSN Direct.
its work for me
samsung b7320
but no wethr for iran .......
sucks!!!
but rep+++
yhx
Wow I didn't even know this service was still around...I used to have one of the watches, they were pretty cool.
This does not pertain to Kaiser Rom Development. Please post questions like this in the Kaiser General section in the future.
Thank You
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory
chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...
crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier
looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.
I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
someone1234 said:
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
adamz said:
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
slickvic said:
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.
so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up
I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.
Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418
I'm about fed up with TouchFlo 3D, nice but pretty useless and I REALLY miss the Cube from my Touch Dual, much more convenient and doens't waste CPU cycles, so...has anyone installed it on the Diamond ?
Found a few existing CUBE topics, but not sure if there might not be interference and if a VGA skin is needed.
Topics : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348437
Ok had to hard reset...
Was hopeful after a post by SecureGSM :
"HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings:
also, there is one that is suppose to enable cube finctionality there:
EnableCube : default value (0) <--change that to (1)"
But not working for me.
Its not so simple as switching cube on. Cube is simply not there in our Diamond. If u try to install this Cube configurator from the Elf thread, u'll see a multitude of errors, missing files, etc. Cube may be functional here, but we'll be needing all those files
Yes, that sucks, the CUBE is x times more useful than TouchFlo 3D IMHO.
There must be a way though because it was added to non touch devices.
i dun think we'll have to descend to the non touch method, they use flash. i'm sure if we can get the Touch Cruise for example, and get their files, and put it in, it should work? i think
Catching up, I also thought this would do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348437 but so far no luck either.
bump - hope someone can figure it out ;-)
Another bump, that would be such a useful addition, I'm sure the bright minds around here can figure how to add the Cube back ;-)
have u tried Touch Commander?
Not sure, got a link ? I tried the tools linked in the first message and no go, had to hard reset.
I know a guy who might be very good at this ... Duttie or something like that
Unfortunatly, he is not around (yet)
Sounds good, hope he joins us soon !
Have you considered something like this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
There are a couple of other similar GUIs out there and the good thing about them that they all VGA optimized.
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http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
and it's variation by GSmart
http://www.smartdevicefreeware.com/gsmart-windows-mobile-touch-gui/
Thanks, but what I like about the cube is up and down the gesture to bring the contact list and then left to right for the various tools. The Contact list would be enough actually.
bumping it up ;-)
obender said:
to add one more
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
and it's variation by GSmart
http://www.smartdevicefreeware.com/gsmart-windows-mobile-touch-gui/
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gsmart just buggerd up my diamond....
i won't be trying that again in a hurry
this looks good if they can get it to fit our screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417825
Any news guys ? I was so happy with my Touch Cruise but bought the Diamond for the 640x480 screen and faster video playback.
The TouchFlow 3D looks fine but it's very useless to me, The old TouchFlo Cube from the cruise could be swept away and you had your normal windows todayscreen.
I tried the Cube thing SPD Mobile Shell but the old originall CUBE is way better I think.
Any solutions ?
Bump!!! I Want The Cube!!!!!!
same here, in fact I want it so much I've stuck with the HTC Touch Dual, aka Nike !
Does any one know what is the best graph calculator for a HTC Touch Diamond Pro. I'm currently going to school and need a Graph calculator, but why should I pay more money for other device if I have a mini computer. I don't care if I have to pay for the software, but I just want to have it on my phone. Thank You.
RdCalc - Graphing Calc
Search for RdCalc
This is all you need if you are willing to pay: http://www.spacetime.us/pocketpc/
It has more than you will ever need. I don't even use 80% of the stuff it has. Its amazing.
I'm using HiCalc, Winner of 2007
So far, i'm very satisfied with it
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This is all you need if you are willing to pay: http://www.spacetime.us/pocketpc/
It has more than you will ever need. I don't even use 80% of the stuff it has. Its amazing.
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2nd! I bought this when in version 2.x and have not been able to live without it since. You can take your TI-86,89,92 and put them on the shelf when you have this app. It is excellent.
I recommend the following:
VTI Pocket Emulator
Do you use the TI-89 calculator? I have the actual TI-92plus so I found this calculator fab.
I have not used the 89 for more than a few minutes here and there. I cut my teeth on a 86, and had a 92Plus until someone felt they needed it more than I did. Emulators are fine, but honestly I had no trouble moving over to Spacetime which was designed to run on Windows Mobile. Emulators are typically more trouble than they are worth, IMNSHO.
Just remember, if you are going to high school now (which I presume, in the states), you will need another calculator later for the sat's (or whatever you take). You can always borrow your friend's, but make sure you know how to use it!
I am just a bit past the high school level as I have acquired a terminal degree in chemistry, and it never ceases to amaze me that even advanced college students with very expensive and capable calculators fail to employ them correctly resulting in poor scores. While in graduate school, I had occasion to teach and grade quite a bit and this was quite prevalent. g2tl makes a great point. No matter which route you choose, LEARN TO USE IT EFFECTIVELY. It will save you some tears in the months to come.
@g2tl,
I also have a g2tl.
Thanks to everyone who is giving me feed back. I tried all of them on my Htc Diamond Touch Pro
Spacetime - was not really user friendly and I couldn't figure it out.
HiCalc - This was very user friendly, but it is the trial version and wont let me use the graph section, so I can't really test it until tonight
VTI Pocket Emulator - This will not work on the HTC Touch Diamond Pro
This is one I found that is very users friendly Calc Pro (I gave it High rateings - This works very well with the Diamond Touch Pro, finger friendly.... but maybe (and I know it has to be me) I can't get it to change from F(x) to F(Y). for instance I'm trying to graph this problem and it will not work: y= 1/2 sin (x + pi) , y= cos 4x , y= cos 3x Those are samples that I could not get to work.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, please if you can gave me help thank you again.
Never used that one... Good luck. Have you downloaded and consulted the manual for the application in an effort to solve your problem? It seems that this would be in the manual.
gsessons said:
Spacetime - was not really user friendly and I couldn't figure it out.
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I found this program to be very very very excellent. Being an engineer it has many functions that I use frequently, such as solving systems of equations. If you have used any math programs before (such as Matlab or Maple or Mathematica) this is rather intuitive and the tutorials are excellent. Well worth the 20-40$ depending on what add-ons you get. This is definitely over-kill for your average calculator user. But if you plan to do any calculus or more advanced algebra (linear algebra, etc) I would say this is an excellent program.
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This is one I found that is very users friendly Calc Pro (I gave it High rateings - This works very well with the Diamond Touch Pro, finger friendly.... but maybe (and I know it has to be me) I can't get it to change from F(x) to F(Y). for instance I'm trying to graph this problem and it will not work: y= 1/2 sin (x + pi) , y= cos 4x , y= cos 3x Those are samples that I could not get to work.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, please if you can gave me help thank you again.
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Those are all functions of x. So in the case of:
y=1/2 sin(x + pi)
is the same as:
f(x) = 1/2 sin(x + pi)
As with a lot of math, you must learn how to merge different notations into the style needed. These equations say exactly the same thing they just look a little different.
Omg. So I just tried all of those in the thread and (according to my point of view since I'm 16 and in high school). I did not get SpaceTime at all. I was like wtf when I opened it =/ Will take some time to get. HiCalc is ok. Graphing is eh. Now Panoramic Calc Pro! Is the most finger friendly calc I've seen so far! (Ok, not including the buttons) =/ But navigation. The graphing is so awesome! I love it! It has the best graphing function use IMO (cause I couldn't get Spacetime to work). So for simpletons like me who only need graphing calculators, I would get the Calc Pro. It's worth it.
the VTI Emulator works on my Touch Pro just fine.
If you like HP calculators, go here:
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/
Emu48 for Pocket PC and Windows Mobile (Installer) 1.16 is what you are looking for. Be sure to get the VGA skins for it.
Hi tylosaurus,
Where do i get the vga skins ??
TIA
tylosaurus said:
the VTI Emulator works on my Touch Pro just fine.
If you like HP calculators, go here:
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/
Emu48 for Pocket PC and Windows Mobile (Installer) 1.16 is what you are looking for. Be sure to get the VGA skins for it.
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tylosaurus can your press the buttons on the vti? i can install it and it opens but i cant press the buttons.
gsessons said:
Thanks to everyone who is giving me feed back. I tried all of them on my Htc Diamond Touch Pro
Spacetime - was not really user friendly and I couldn't figure it out.
HiCalc - This was very user friendly, but it is the trial version and wont let me use the graph section, so I can't really test it until tonight
VTI Pocket Emulator - This will not work on the HTC Touch Diamond Pro
This is one I found that is very users friendly Calc Pro (I gave it High rateings - This works very well with the Diamond Touch Pro, finger friendly.... but maybe (and I know it has to be me) I can't get it to change from F(x) to F(Y). for instance I'm trying to graph this problem and it will not work: y= 1/2 sin (x + pi) , y= cos 4x , y= cos 3x Those are samples that I could not get to work.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, please if you can gave me help thank you again.
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Touch Pro or Touch Diamond? I wasn't aware there was a Touch Diamond Pro. VTI Pocket Emulator works fine on my Touch Pro and my professors doesn't even mind me using it.
Hi, sorry for reviving this topic, hop the mods won't kill me :-D
I just downloaded SpaceTime4.0
I fired it up, did the tutorial and I was just like WTF? This app is just insane!
Cuz you wrote that SpaceTime isn't free:
The newest Version seems to be totally free and simply can't believe it!