seriously guys.. your honest thoughts on the camera... - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

I find every picture I take with the diamond sub par and not even 3 megapixel standard. my resolution is def set to highest. even my missus's iphone produces sharper more defined pics. diamond pics are soft, cloudy and blotchy when zoomedl auto white balance is useless, always gets things wrong and I have to always fiddle around with manual settings. what are your experiences?

Original files are in zip.. When you hold the td perfectly still the photo's are ok.. when te conditions are worse, i.e. your walking/moving, in darker places, the quality runs back quickly.

I found the camera amazing (except for in the dark, while contra-light doesn't seem to matter that match). Good quality, high-res pictures if you allow it to focus correctly and hold still. Some good modes too.

Prety much the same. Only way to get a reasonable pic is to remove the back when I need as good a quality as possible, and when I do so they're passable. Find auto WB is ok outdoors, but rubbish indoors (badly washed out), and needs a bit of fiddling to get the best out of it.
Bit of a nause, but I'm not a prolific snapper, so it's not the end of the world for me.

camera is amazing on light.
but in the dark it is really ****.

studz said:
Prety much the same. Only way to get a reasonable pic is to remove the back when I need as good a quality as possible,
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This is exactly what has been said before, i completely agree and I did some tests on it to. Both my images showed that with the cover on, cloudy, misty pictures and with the cover off, good quality, reasonably sharp pictures.
intel286 said:
camera is amazing on light.
but in the dark it is really ****.
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I do also agree that indoors and in low light the quality isn't that great but outdoors especially in good light the pictures are pretty good. Would be great if there was some sort of software tweak or software upgrade that would improve the quality of the pictures produced.
But at the end of the day we all know it all goes down to the quality of the camera that the manufacturer has used in the device. Im reasonably happy with the 3.2 megapixel that was used but with things like the Samsung i900 Omnia coming out / recently out with a pretty good 5 mega pixel hopefully HTC will take note and upgrade the cameras in future devices.
Im happy with mine, taking the back cover off can be a pain, but it works for me! (For now, hehe!)

Compared to what I just came from (a terrible VGA cam in a Motorola V3), I think the camera is amazing. It's not up to proper camera levels, but if I was after a camera for more than the occasional picture, I'd buy a proper digital cam or one of these phone/camera hybrids.
It does require a steady hand though, and it very low light it's not good, but even in relatively poor light it still did better than I was expecting.

Its just 'OK' in the light and useless in dark.

okay. tried with the cover off and theres definately an improvement, although still not perfect. however, its going to be a major pain in the arse to take the back cover off everytime I want to take an improv picture.

darthbane2k said:
okay. tried with the cover off and theres definately an improvement, although still not perfect. however, its going to be a major pain in the arse to take the back cover off everytime I want to take an improv picture.
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push the lense cover out....worked for me
but then you have the problems or crap getting in the back of the phone

Pretty good during the day, but at night it turns to ****, my guess is that it tries to prolong the shutter speed instead of increase the gain / ISO sensitivity.
HTC need to learn 2 program.

liamhere said:
push the lense cover out....worked for me
but then you have the problems or crap getting in the back of the phone
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what if we cover the hole with clear screen protector film?

it would warp the image, short of proper optics you cant just cover a hole an take a picture through it, what we need it some sort of shutter on the back panel, quite easy to manufacture if someone could be bothered

Tendou said:
Pretty good during the day, but at night it turns to ****, my guess is that it tries to prolong the shutter speed instead of increase the gain / ISO sensitivity.
HTC need to learn 2 program.
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you have any idea what does it take in terms of sensor circuitry to increase ISO sensitivity?
you have any idea how expensive a good camera sensor is (not the crap you see in consumer cameras, which are also **** in the dark)?
guys, I think you're just being unrealistic about what a phone camera should do.

I cleaned up my cover lens and I pushed it more that I wanted and ups it is out so now Im glad with clean photos and once a time I clean up hole back under cover...
...but about steady hand and good not blurry pictures...does anybody worked sports or burst mode with resolution higher than size "L"

kultus said:
I cleaned up my cover lens and I pushed it more that I wanted and ups it is out so now Im glad with clean photos and once a time I clean up hole back under cover...
...but about steady hand and good not blurry pictures...does anybody worked sports or burst mode with resolution higher than size "L"
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can popping out the lens cover really damage the phone?

well
you'll get dust inside, this shall be most notably when wearing it in pocket...
i managed it by putting a plastic seal around it:
i took one of those cable holders which came with the diamond (e.g. holding the headset together) cut it in the middle (so it was half as high as before) and placed it around the lense
now its closed again (teste with very fine sand) and i got much better photos....
(sry for the bad english ;D - I hope you can get what i mean)

Im wearing it in my pocket and its not that horible than I expected so its your choice...no damage btw glue is still there so its the matter of 2 sec to stick it up...

If you don't want to remove the lens cover, then clean the cover. Have a look at your cover and you should see why the picture comes out the way it does.

I.ve been watching this forum for more on this issue. The camera is crap. I upgraded to the htc rom because it said it made camera improvements. Bull***t. It’s still the same. I take loads of photos and almost all with the diamond have some sort of blurriness. If you have some sort of movement when the photo is taken then it blurs’. Examples below. Because of what another member posted about the same problem. I will be contacting htc support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412397
My old 2.0 mp Artemis and 3.0 mp Tytn II never had this problem.
Photos with the diamond
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMAGE_041.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMAGE_022.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMAGE_014.jpg
i.ve tried without back cover and it makes no diference

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no gps and blurry camera

Ok well a few weeks ago, I updated my rom, I believe it was one of G's roms, Garmin.DK.10. After installing the rom I realized my gps was not working along with my camera got extremely blurry. I hadn't used either of those two functions for about a month before that so I'm not sure if the rom before that worked. I installed the camera fix but it had no change. I use GPS Test and it just sits at "GPS Starting up." I thought it was the rom so I went and security unlocked my phone and then upgraded the SPL to 3.56. Afterward, I installed the latest AT&T rom to see if that would fix it but still I have a blurry camera and my gps still doesn't work. Any ideas on what happened? The phone has been beat around a little bit but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it.
Thanks
change your radio, it's directly link to the camera and gps
Well that's the thing, I have gone through a number of radios. When I security unlocked my phone, I downgraded to WM 6.0 with the older radios and even then no go. I have tried the latest At&T radio along with 1.65.21.18, 1.70.18.02, 1.70.19.09, 1.71.09.01. But those radios were also tried before security unlocking the phone so I don't if that makes a difference.
regarding the blurry photos issue. try taking a picture without the battery cover in place. i was suffering from blurry photos too until i realised they were caused by the almost imperceptable scuff marks on the camera lens cover build into the battery cover.
Earthworm said:
regarding the blurry photos issue. try taking a picture without the battery cover in place. i was suffering from blurry photos too until i realised they were caused by the almost imperceptable scuff marks on the camera lens cover build into the battery cover.
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Thanks so much for this. I thought the camera was just crap until I tried this. Makes a HUGE difference.
You're welcome. I too had a very low opinion of the camera quality until I realised what was causing it! I have now snapped the clear lens cover out of the battery cover. It looks a little unsightly but I think thats better than blurry photos! I was intending to buy a spare battery cover off eBay but they sell for around £20!! Rip off :-(
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You're welcome. I too had a very low opinion of the camera quality until I realised what was causing it! I have not snapped the clear lens cover out of the battery cover. It looks a little unsightly but I think thats better than blurry photos! I was intending to buy a spare battery cover off eBay but they sell for around £20!! Rip off :-(
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http://cgi.ebay.com/New-OEM-AT-T-HT...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
Here It comes to about $10.90 including international shipping. I purchased one from this seller. Just make sure all the hinges are intact if you do plan on purchasing one.
Ok so updated the radio to the newest one and took off my back and the camera is not as blurry up close, long range still sucks, as in several feet. But still no gps.
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Ok so updated the radio to the newest one and took off my back and the camera is not as blurry up close, long range still sucks, as in several feet. But still no gps.
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I'll try and explain this:
It's due to the aperture:
Aperture is referred to the lens diaphragm opening inside a photographic lens. The size of the diaphragm opening in a camera lens REGULATES amount of light passes through onto the film inside the camera the moment when the shutter curtain in camera opens during an exposure process.
Eg of aperture:
Use larger aperture (Smaller number like f/2.8, f/2.0 etc.) with a long focal length to isolate or emphasis on expression, such as in portraiture photography; or use a smaller aperture (Bigger number like f/16 or f/22 etc..) to ensure pin-sharp details in both the foreground and the background.
So since the lens on the Kaiser\Tilt is a fixed aperture "i'm not sure what it is exactly but imagine f/2.8-f/3.2" then long range shots are not pinsharp. "To do with depth of field to which also affects focus and quality"
@redbandana
Thank you so much for this link. I have now purchased one!!
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AHH That's why I couldn't get the thread to move. You out Modded Me!
Congrats DaveShaw on Being the Quickest Mod.
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AHH That's why I couldn't get the thread to move. You out Modded Me!
Congrats DaveShaw on Being the Quickest Mod.
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BOOM headshot!
Dave
Ok so nobody has any ideas about the gps? I have let it sit outside for 20+ minutes and it still doesn't pick up a signal. With GPS Test, the phone sits on "GPS Starting Up." I have tried several ROM's and radios? Is there any way to test if the actually hardware is working? Please this issues has been going on for several months now and no answer

X1 Mobile Phone Telescope?

Any one tried this?
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03994&dept_id=010&cat_id=1171
is it really good? some review form someone who actually tested it (or something similar) would be great
cheers
colour me sceptic, but at $17 for that plastic contraption including a crystal case & lanyard, I wouldn't be expecting too much.
Yeah that picture looks like it was zoomed using the software zoom in the camera because the detail on the bushes is wishy washy
telescope shot?
When compared to the standard shot
full shot
you'd expect them to at least take photos without a window in the way!
ROFL
Just realised they've used the same photo for every device that they're selling that for.
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Just realised they've used the same photo for every device that they're selling that for.
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lol, i didn't notice that, but in theory, it should work!
unless the lenses are poor quality and blur everything out (which justifies the price)
X1's camera is great, i took some really cool pictures using it. if this would work, wow! i would give up my digital camera and have everything in one device
it even will look a real multi function piece of art
I think that lens is probably useless.
#1 Seeing that $17 doesn't give you anything other than plastic lenses, the image quality is gonna suck.
#2 A lens always steals light, taking a sharp shot with a mobile phone camera can be hard even without an add-on lens. The lens is just gonna make your exposure times even longer and greatly up the risk of motion blur.
#3 Auto focus is probably gonna be a ***** as well.
"good for color reduction, which makes the high quality of photography."
I wouldn't take a sentence like that too serious.
tantanx said:
"good for color reduction, which makes the high quality of photography."
I wouldn't take a sentence like that too serious.
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oooh I dunno black and white always looks quite nice
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oooh I dunno black and white always looks quite nice
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You're the man

Camera issue: Straight lines

I've just been running some tests on my Z1 camera.
I noticed that it's virtually unable to produce straight lines.
I've attached a picture of my PC's monitor (in admittedly difficult light) and as you can see the normally straight lines of the bezel and windows all bulge.
Does anyone else have that issue? Is my camera a duff one?
I'm extremely hesitant to send it in to Sony for repair. Currently they have my old Xperia Z for repairs, to replace the camera module that developed black spots. It's been three weeks and still waiting for it to come back (UK repair centre).
It's those kind of issues that make choosing a Sony extremely frustrating, as much as I want to love the brand.
It's.from the lens of the camera. If someone else's camera doesn't show that aberation you should go to Sony. Only way to get it right is post processing every picture.
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For comparison I took some shots with an old 350D, with kit objective (18-55mm).
One shot with at 18mm, one at 55mm, one with my Z1 and one with an old Xperia Pro.
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Exry said:
For comparison I took some shots with an old 350D, with kit objective (18-55mm).
One shot with at 18mm, one at 55mm, one with my Z1 and one with an old Xperia Pro.
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Your Z1 is also quite bumpy, not perhaps not as much as mine.
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Your Z1 is also quite bumpy, not perhaps not as much as mine.
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Although I don't know how much of distortion is acceptable, it's probably because of the very low focal length and wide angle? I'm no photographer but I expected it to bulge a bit.
yeah i mentioned this in the camera thread in the general section. every Z1 i've tested does this (10+ phones plus every image i've seen of a grid or line from the z1 on this forum). depending on the way the lense is mounted most deformation will normally appear towards the extreme top or bottom of an image.
ps. if you bought your phone from a uk network and are outside of your in store exchange period and wanted to get it repaired (not that i think there are any current z1's without this problem and therefore a lense that would be much better to be put into your phone) than send it through the network shop for a warranty repair and it will be repaired or replaced by anovo (all network shops use them) in around 5 working days.
That´s not unexpected.
If you make a wideangle lens this small there will be always quite a lot of distortion. Almost all cameras nowadays correct this distortions in the image-processing.
The problem is that the optical distortion changes with very close focus-distances and most software-corrections only adjust to the lenses focal-length (when having a zoom-lens), but not to the focus-distance, so the software-correction is wrong.
It seems that Sony does a combination of optically correcting the distortion in the lens, additionally to the software-corrections, which causes this very complex distortion, which quite strong pincushion-distortion in the center while still having some barrel-distortion at the edges of the image.
In distances 1m+ there is hardly any visible distortion left.
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That´s not unexpected.
If you make a wideangle lens this small there will be always quite a lot of distortion. Almost all cameras nowadays correct this distortions in the image-processing.
The problem is that the optical distortion changes with very close focus-distances and most software-corrections only adjust to the lenses focal-length (when having a zoom-lens), but not to the focus-distance, so the software-correction is wrong.
It seems that Sony does a combination of optically correcting the distortion in the lens, additionally to the software-corrections, which causes this very complex distortion, which quite strong pincushion-distortion in the center while still having some barrel-distortion at the edges of the image.
In distances 1m+ there is hardly any visible distortion left.
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That's very interesting and the most insightful reply on this topic in any thread yet, thanks. My only concern is that i have read a report of a picture of a horizon have both the barrel distortion and pincushion problems which is at some distance. I'll have to check for long distance distortion. If it's not there i'm happy.
Thanks for the replies!
On top of the above problem I also noticed a distinct out of focus area (top left corner in my case) in shots taken at a wide distance.
I can't say I every detected either of these problems on my old iPhone 5. Maybe Apple's camera is simply better and the algorithms even things out more.
I'm currently having the Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3 at home and try to decide which one to keep, and it's proving very difficult. Both phones have their distinct positive and negative sides.
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Thanks for the replies!
On top of the above problem I also noticed a distinct out of focus area (top left corner in my case) in shots taken at a wide distance.
I can't say I every detected either of these problems on my old iPhone 5. Maybe Apple's camera is simply better and the algorithms even things out more.
I'm currently having the Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3 at home and try to decide which one to keep, and it's proving very difficult. Both phones have their distinct positive and negative sides.
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the bottom right side of my pictures are blurred. gsmarena had a similar issue with their test unit.
Today I conducted some more tests with both Z1 and GN 3.
At 100 ISO the Z1 showed considerable noise and much less in focus than the GN3, in good light.
At first I thought that the Z1 camera complaints might be not so visible to the untrained eye and that the average user such as myself wouldn't notice anything amiss, but the differences in direct comparison are really striking.
There are many things I like about the Z1, and its design is far superior to the GN 3, but knowing that there are virtually no conditions under which the Z1 would be able to take good pictures is a deal break for me, so the Z1 will go up on eBay. Hopefully better luck in 6 months with the Z's next iteration.
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At 100 ISO the Z1 showed considerable noise and much less in focus than the GN3, in good light.
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I think Sonys decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was a good (although unexpecting when looking at their cameras which usually use quite heavy NR). Chroma-Noise is very well under control up to the highest sensitivities and the luminance-noise is very fine grained and not objectionable at all. Unfortunately thats not true for ISO 1600+, where NR gets so high everything becomes a blurry mess. Of course these sensitivities are hardly usable for 1/2,3"-Sensors, regardless of the strength of the NR
Finally you can always use some additional NR in PP, but you never can bring back detail that has already been destroyed by heavy processing.
Also contrast (at least in manual) mode is quite low (at least for a consumer-device), which leads to surprisingly good DR, unlike the blocked shadows (which also hide noise) you get on most phones (and most compact-cameras as well). Again increasing contrast in PP is not a problem, unlike the other way around.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
Of course there will be less in focus as well, a bigger sensor + larger aperture means less DOF and therefore less in focus.
This can also become a problem at close focus-ranges, because the focus-plane is in reality not flat, instead it is somewhat spherical shaped. At close focus-distances therefore soft corners can become a problem.
demoniality said:
My only concern is that i have read a report of a picture of a horizon have both the barrel distortion and pincushion problems which is at some distance. I'll have to check for long distance distortion. If it's not there i'm happy.
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I've taken pictures of a sea horizon...
They get the strange distortion too
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I think Sony's decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was good.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
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I'm completely agree
High detail is better than a very little bit of noise
I think the only thing I would like to see in next firmware is a stronger sharpness algorithm. XZ with Honami Camera driver produces sharper pictures (obviously they get more grain and pixelled than XZ1 when zooming in because of sensor, lens and mpx)
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I think Sonys decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was a good (although unexpecting when looking at their cameras which usually use quite heavy NR). Chroma-Noise is very well under control up to the highest sensitivities and the luminance-noise is very fine grained and not objectionable at all. Unfortunately thats not true for ISO 1600+, where NR gets so high everything becomes a blurry mess. Of course these sensitivities are hardly usable for 1/2,3"-Sensors, regardless of the strength of the NR
Finally you can always use some additional NR in PP, but you never can bring back detail that has already been destroyed by heavy processing.
Also contrast (at least in manual) mode is quite low (at least for a consumer-device), which leads to surprisingly good DR, unlike the blocked shadows (which also hide noise) you get on most phones (and most compact-cameras as well). Again increasing contrast in PP is not a problem, unlike the other way around.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
Of course there will be less in focus as well, a bigger sensor + larger aperture means less DOF and therefore less in focus.
This can also become a problem at close focus-ranges, because the focus-plane is in reality not flat, instead it is somewhat spherical shaped. At close focus-distances therefore soft corners can become a problem.
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An interesting and well informed reply, however, in my test shots we were not just talking about "a bit" of noise, but a considerable amount, and the picture was noticeably less sharp than the GN 3 picture I took, with its 13MP camera. So if there are any advantages to be had on the Sony, I can't see them. And while I theoretically could tinker with improving the pics in Photoshop I don't think I would have had the patience to do this with every little picture I take.
So, out of the box, the Samsung produces the better pictures, with less hassle for me, and I don't need to have specialist knowledge in photography or Photoshop in order to get a good result, and that's what tipped the scale for me.
hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
shawnhalu said:
hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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haha i cant see the softness u stating. i try take afew more picture head on and let u see. thanks
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I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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actually i cant see the crooked line where is it?
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I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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photo retake for u, can u help me have a look of the softness and the crooked line?
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photo retake for u, can u help me have a look of the softness and the crooked line?
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First picture again shows severe softness on the right side, just look how hard it is to read the text.
Corner-sharpness isn´t the greatest with this camera, which is to be expected considering the relatively large sensor with a relatively small lens, but this shouldn´t extend that far into the picture.
Your camera seams to be especially strange, as the corners are actually sharper, the small text of the clock in the bottom right corner for example is much easier to read then the text in the center right side, which is very unusual. Normally the corners are the softest, but as you use 16:9, which crops the extreme corners, there shouldn´t be much of a problem at all.
There is nothing to notice on the rest of the pictures.
I don´t really know what´s going on there, the strange sharpness-pattern could be a result of the rather unusual distortion and the correction for it, but then left and right side should be identical. A misaligned lens/sensor should show worse corners (top right corner is quite good as well).
If the camera had some image-stabilization I would say, that maybe the moving sensor/lens-element moved to an area of the lens which isn´t optically as good, but as this camera doesn´t have any stabilization this isn´t possible.
One guess would be that there is some dirt on one side of your lens, or the covering-glass, or maybe some scratches.
Another guess would be that the camera chose one of the multi-shot-modes. Sonys cameras usually are quite good discovering softer parts of the image and multiple instances of the same objects their multi-shot-modes, but of course the algorithm isn´t fool-proof, so their might be a chance that software combined a softer image in the final picture on the right side, while not using this soft image on the left side.

Be careful with magnetic camera lenses! N5 is NOT designed for them

Hi all, I just want to share my experiences I made today.
I have bought a Wide/Macro Lens like used in the Video (from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same) and it is NOT working! The magnets from the lens are not attracting to the magnets in the phone, they are pushing away! Be aware, I don't thing there is a standardized way how the lens manufacturers build in the magnet since it is designed to hold to a metal ring and not to another magnet.
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
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(from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same)
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It's already known that some cheap ones on Amazon have more-or-less random magnetic polarity. The only ones confirmed for being consistent are the ones on Photojojo. As for messing with OIS, I don't have first-hand experience with these lenses, but it seems that that was also confirmed for not happening with the Photojojo lenses.
Unless you got the Photojojo ones through Amazon. Then you might want to post this in those other threads about this too, so people will see this result.
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
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You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
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I tried to (with a little flat screwdriver), but it seems to be pressed in, it fits very tight. Maybe I try it tomorrow again (heat up a little??).
attached a picture of the lens
(at the amazon picture a silver one was shown but they delivered this black version)
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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uhm.. this is totally wrong, I don't want a great picture quality, I want a wide-lens to have a wider angle for party snapshots or being out with some friends. You can increase the visibility range alot and I like the effect, so why not? I definitely DONT want to carry a camera all the time (by the way I have also a canon eos d1000, yeah I know it is just a "cheap" DSLR but it is enough for me).
This is not a "camera has too bad quality" thread (IMO the N5 camera is great) so go away
By the way, the lens is working perfect with the metal ring on my GNex
I can also confirm this. I bought these from Amazon. Received these today and when tried to put them on ... the reverse polarity on the magnet on the lens and the one on the camera itself repel each other. I was only able to hold the lens in place with my hand to try out the macro lens (picture attached). However I didn't experience any vibration or OIS not working. OIS was working fine for me. I used HDR+ mode.
Anyways, lenses are going back. Only lens confirmed to work with N5 are from Photojojo and since those lenses are way overpriced I will not buy them.
zoomed out photo was taken at the closest distance where the on-screen camera focus ring turned green. YMMV.
Excuse the fingers in the macro shot as I was holding the lens with one hand while taking the photo.
enjoy
Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
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Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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I ordered the Photojojo's from Amazon -- FROM Photojojo, and it's no-go jojo for my photo phono circo.
Anyway, the magnet doesn't work at all. Not quite reversed polarity that I can tell, but only one small area wants to attract. Not enough to keep the lens on.
Yea. The magnet on my phone barely holds up a paperclip. I seriously doubt it was designed for lenses. If it was, Google would be all over that with their advertising, especially since they have been flaunting their photo capabilities.
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Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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Picture 3
fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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picture 2
picture 3
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Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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dakunclear said:
Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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The fisheye lenses that I got were REALLY subpar to me, so I returned it. Since I had to attach a metal ring to the camera lens so that the lens could stick to it, I couldn't really justify it. Like I said in my earlier post I really like the easy macro because it's on a band and I can easily remove it. If I found a fisheye that was on a band like that I might get it, but idk the image quality wasnt that great either and the metal ring was really a turnoff Use amazon, buy it and if you dont like it then return it
fireproofrev said:
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
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Oh boy!!! I can now confirm this. After a long time I couldn't control myself and bought another set of lenses from Amazon and decided to stick the provided ring to the phone lens. Macro lens seemed to work fine however as soon as I mounted the wide angle lens ... OIS started freaking out so bad I can't even begin to describe. You can feel the vibrations and see it on the screen as well. I immediately removed the lens and put it away. OP was right about this little thing ... I won't be using wide angle lens to avoid any permanent damage to OIS in the phone .
Any kind of strong magnet will also disorient the directional sensor while using google maps. I was wondering why the turn by turn navi would randomly tell me to make a U-turn.
Test for yourself. Pop open google maps and locate your position. Then put a magnet near the top half of the phone, you'll see your directional pointer spin away.
Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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Yeah good luck. A dedicated camera like an SLR or a point and shoot won't be there when that spur of the moment photo presents itself to you.
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Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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So much NO in this post. "real Photography"? Please. The fact that a photo is taken with a phone vs a DSLR vs medium format vs etc etc is irrelevant. You don't need a (relatively) expensive camera to take good photos. You need creativity and opportunity, that's it.
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I was almost tempted to buy one to play with my N5 camera.. but reading this thread made me worried..
Now I used that little money and bought a wireless charger... should be coming to me tomorrow..
Good to know -- thanks for the warning, you just saved me some time/money no doubt!

Camera and speakers very bad,how to fix it?

Soo I have had my Xperia Z3 Compact for 2 years now and yeah the camera wasn't the best but it just started to degrade and now it looks like sh*t literally,I have Carbon ROM 5.1 running which is Nougat and I thought if I flashed the Sony Camera Mod and Cyberian with it it would be better,and yes it did get better but I still cannot get good shots in moderately lit situations,only I can get a good shot is on a very sunny day,and the front camera isn't very good either,looks pixelated. And no,no dust entered the camera since the phone was dissasembled recently and cleaned from everything.
So my question is how can I make the camera usable since I am a camera heavy user since I use Snapchat almost all the time and I cannot live without the camera.
And as for the speaker it just seems to be quiet,I always take my bluetooth speaker since the speakers on the phone are very quiet and yes I removed that waterproofing thing from them and the speakers are new since I got the whole front panel changed.
Any suggestions will be taken for granted.
Clean the camera protective cover with toothpaste until you remove the blue anti reflective coating.
Small scratches on the coating will ruin the picture.
kentaurest said:
Clean the camera protective cover with toothpaste until you remove the blue anti reflective coating.
Small scratches on the coating will ruin the picture.
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From the outside of the back cover or the inside?
Dinkec27 said:
From the outside of the back cover or the inside?
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Outside
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general/tut-clean-camera-lens-getting-blurry-t3169539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Y57xrKXj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVv8r7COWuU
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Outside
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general/tut-clean-camera-lens-getting-blurry-t3169539
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So that solved the back camera,Thank you,but how do I solve the front camera?
Dinkec27 said:
So that solved the back camera,Thank you,but how do I solve the front camera?
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Front camera is quite bad, can't help your there.
In my experience the glue strip which holds the screen and back to the frame slowly lets go, so dust settles in.
If yours is clean, good, but not for long.
Replacement double sided tape is worse quality than the factory tape was.
Some repair services use two double sided tapes to compensate the flex and keep the screen in place.
Snapchat doesn't work well with sony.
I have used z1c, z3c and xc ... with all of them snapchat somehow ruins the picture / video quality.
Because it has to downsize 23 mpix sensor data and doesn't have time or processing power to do it correctly, so it uses previews :
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fyi-why-androids-snapchat-app-takes-inferior-photos-0174597/
Make picture with the phone camera app and then use that in snapchat.
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Found some more about snapchat
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/64xqv0/snapchat_recording_quality/
Snapchat is purposely bad on Android. When you open Snapchat:
both of your phones cameras turn on, the front and back.
both cameras STAY on, even if you are not using them. Even if you are just chatting, watching stories, etc. Ever notice how hot your phone gets and how fast your battery drains? Ta-da!
when you take a picture, it does NOT take a "picture", it is a screenshot of what is displayed on your screen.
Recording a video? It's just a screen record, not an actual video recording using the phones camera.
If you just click home instead of backing out or killing Snapchat, the cameras will continue to run in the background and your battery will go down super fast.
I have similar experience, phone get really warm when sending several snaps and battery depletes super fast.
kentaurest said:
Front camera is quite bad, can't help your there.
In my experience the glue strip which holds the screen and back to the frame slowly lets go, so dust settles in.
If yours is clean, good, but not for long.
Replacement double sided tape is worse quality than the factory tape was.
Some repair services use two double sided tapes to compensate the flex and keep the screen in place.
Snapchat doesn't work well with sony.
I have used z1c, z3c and xc ... with all of them snapchat somehow ruins the picture / video quality.
Because it has to downsize 23 mpix sensor data and doesn't have time or processing power to do it correctly, so it uses previews :
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fyi-why-androids-snapchat-app-takes-inferior-photos-0174597/
Make picture with the phone camera app and then use that in snapchat.
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I know how Snapchat functions and the way it functions is absolutely rubish.
Well my camera isn't like foggy,it is just pixelated. I just need this phone to hold for 6 more months and it can rest in peace.
Taking pictures through the stock camera isn't as bad because the camera app removes the noise anf the pixelation,but in Snapchat it just doesn't look good,and in the viewfinder in the camera app it is the worst.

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