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seriously guys.. your honest thoughts on the camera...

I find every picture I take with the diamond sub par and not even 3 megapixel standard. my resolution is def set to highest. even my missus's iphone produces sharper more defined pics. diamond pics are soft, cloudy and blotchy when zoomedl auto white balance is useless, always gets things wrong and I have to always fiddle around with manual settings. what are your experiences?

Original files are in zip.. When you hold the td perfectly still the photo's are ok.. when te conditions are worse, i.e. your walking/moving, in darker places, the quality runs back quickly.

I found the camera amazing (except for in the dark, while contra-light doesn't seem to matter that match). Good quality, high-res pictures if you allow it to focus correctly and hold still. Some good modes too.

Prety much the same. Only way to get a reasonable pic is to remove the back when I need as good a quality as possible, and when I do so they're passable. Find auto WB is ok outdoors, but rubbish indoors (badly washed out), and needs a bit of fiddling to get the best out of it.
Bit of a nause, but I'm not a prolific snapper, so it's not the end of the world for me.

camera is amazing on light.
but in the dark it is really ****.

studz said:
Prety much the same. Only way to get a reasonable pic is to remove the back when I need as good a quality as possible,
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This is exactly what has been said before, i completely agree and I did some tests on it to. Both my images showed that with the cover on, cloudy, misty pictures and with the cover off, good quality, reasonably sharp pictures.
intel286 said:
camera is amazing on light.
but in the dark it is really ****.
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I do also agree that indoors and in low light the quality isn't that great but outdoors especially in good light the pictures are pretty good. Would be great if there was some sort of software tweak or software upgrade that would improve the quality of the pictures produced.
But at the end of the day we all know it all goes down to the quality of the camera that the manufacturer has used in the device. Im reasonably happy with the 3.2 megapixel that was used but with things like the Samsung i900 Omnia coming out / recently out with a pretty good 5 mega pixel hopefully HTC will take note and upgrade the cameras in future devices.
Im happy with mine, taking the back cover off can be a pain, but it works for me! (For now, hehe!)

Compared to what I just came from (a terrible VGA cam in a Motorola V3), I think the camera is amazing. It's not up to proper camera levels, but if I was after a camera for more than the occasional picture, I'd buy a proper digital cam or one of these phone/camera hybrids.
It does require a steady hand though, and it very low light it's not good, but even in relatively poor light it still did better than I was expecting.

Its just 'OK' in the light and useless in dark.

okay. tried with the cover off and theres definately an improvement, although still not perfect. however, its going to be a major pain in the arse to take the back cover off everytime I want to take an improv picture.

darthbane2k said:
okay. tried with the cover off and theres definately an improvement, although still not perfect. however, its going to be a major pain in the arse to take the back cover off everytime I want to take an improv picture.
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push the lense cover out....worked for me
but then you have the problems or crap getting in the back of the phone

Pretty good during the day, but at night it turns to ****, my guess is that it tries to prolong the shutter speed instead of increase the gain / ISO sensitivity.
HTC need to learn 2 program.

liamhere said:
push the lense cover out....worked for me
but then you have the problems or crap getting in the back of the phone
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what if we cover the hole with clear screen protector film?

it would warp the image, short of proper optics you cant just cover a hole an take a picture through it, what we need it some sort of shutter on the back panel, quite easy to manufacture if someone could be bothered

Tendou said:
Pretty good during the day, but at night it turns to ****, my guess is that it tries to prolong the shutter speed instead of increase the gain / ISO sensitivity.
HTC need to learn 2 program.
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you have any idea what does it take in terms of sensor circuitry to increase ISO sensitivity?
you have any idea how expensive a good camera sensor is (not the crap you see in consumer cameras, which are also **** in the dark)?
guys, I think you're just being unrealistic about what a phone camera should do.

I cleaned up my cover lens and I pushed it more that I wanted and ups it is out so now Im glad with clean photos and once a time I clean up hole back under cover...
...but about steady hand and good not blurry pictures...does anybody worked sports or burst mode with resolution higher than size "L"

kultus said:
I cleaned up my cover lens and I pushed it more that I wanted and ups it is out so now Im glad with clean photos and once a time I clean up hole back under cover...
...but about steady hand and good not blurry pictures...does anybody worked sports or burst mode with resolution higher than size "L"
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can popping out the lens cover really damage the phone?

well
you'll get dust inside, this shall be most notably when wearing it in pocket...
i managed it by putting a plastic seal around it:
i took one of those cable holders which came with the diamond (e.g. holding the headset together) cut it in the middle (so it was half as high as before) and placed it around the lense
now its closed again (teste with very fine sand) and i got much better photos....
(sry for the bad english ;D - I hope you can get what i mean)

Im wearing it in my pocket and its not that horible than I expected so its your choice...no damage btw glue is still there so its the matter of 2 sec to stick it up...

If you don't want to remove the lens cover, then clean the cover. Have a look at your cover and you should see why the picture comes out the way it does.

I.ve been watching this forum for more on this issue. The camera is crap. I upgraded to the htc rom because it said it made camera improvements. Bull***t. It’s still the same. I take loads of photos and almost all with the diamond have some sort of blurriness. If you have some sort of movement when the photo is taken then it blurs’. Examples below. Because of what another member posted about the same problem. I will be contacting htc support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412397
My old 2.0 mp Artemis and 3.0 mp Tytn II never had this problem.
Photos with the diamond
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMAGE_041.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMAGE_022.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMAGE_014.jpg
i.ve tried without back cover and it makes no diference

Be careful with magnetic camera lenses! N5 is NOT designed for them

Hi all, I just want to share my experiences I made today.
I have bought a Wide/Macro Lens like used in the Video (from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same) and it is NOT working! The magnets from the lens are not attracting to the magnets in the phone, they are pushing away! Be aware, I don't thing there is a standardized way how the lens manufacturers build in the magnet since it is designed to hold to a metal ring and not to another magnet.
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)

fireproofrev said:
(from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same)
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It's already known that some cheap ones on Amazon have more-or-less random magnetic polarity. The only ones confirmed for being consistent are the ones on Photojojo. As for messing with OIS, I don't have first-hand experience with these lenses, but it seems that that was also confirmed for not happening with the Photojojo lenses.
Unless you got the Photojojo ones through Amazon. Then you might want to post this in those other threads about this too, so people will see this result.

You could always take out the magnet and flip it around

Andypandiiee said:
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
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I tried to (with a little flat screwdriver), but it seems to be pressed in, it fits very tight. Maybe I try it tomorrow again (heat up a little??).
attached a picture of the lens
(at the amazon picture a silver one was shown but they delivered this black version)

All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.

Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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uhm.. this is totally wrong, I don't want a great picture quality, I want a wide-lens to have a wider angle for party snapshots or being out with some friends. You can increase the visibility range alot and I like the effect, so why not? I definitely DONT want to carry a camera all the time (by the way I have also a canon eos d1000, yeah I know it is just a "cheap" DSLR but it is enough for me).
This is not a "camera has too bad quality" thread (IMO the N5 camera is great) so go away
By the way, the lens is working perfect with the metal ring on my GNex

I can also confirm this. I bought these from Amazon. Received these today and when tried to put them on ... the reverse polarity on the magnet on the lens and the one on the camera itself repel each other. I was only able to hold the lens in place with my hand to try out the macro lens (picture attached). However I didn't experience any vibration or OIS not working. OIS was working fine for me. I used HDR+ mode.
Anyways, lenses are going back. Only lens confirmed to work with N5 are from Photojojo and since those lenses are way overpriced I will not buy them.
zoomed out photo was taken at the closest distance where the on-screen camera focus ring turned green. YMMV.
Excuse the fingers in the macro shot as I was holding the lens with one hand while taking the photo.
enjoy

Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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Picture 3
fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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picture 2
picture 3

I ordered the Photojojo's from Amazon -- FROM Photojojo, and it's no-go jojo for my photo phono circo.
Anyway, the magnet doesn't work at all. Not quite reversed polarity that I can tell, but only one small area wants to attract. Not enough to keep the lens on.

Yea. The magnet on my phone barely holds up a paperclip. I seriously doubt it was designed for lenses. If it was, Google would be all over that with their advertising, especially since they have been flaunting their photo capabilities.

-Cupper- said:
Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3
fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
picture 1
picture 2
picture 3
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Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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dakunclear said:
Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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The fisheye lenses that I got were REALLY subpar to me, so I returned it. Since I had to attach a metal ring to the camera lens so that the lens could stick to it, I couldn't really justify it. Like I said in my earlier post I really like the easy macro because it's on a band and I can easily remove it. If I found a fisheye that was on a band like that I might get it, but idk the image quality wasnt that great either and the metal ring was really a turnoff Use amazon, buy it and if you dont like it then return it

fireproofrev said:
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
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Oh boy!!! I can now confirm this. After a long time I couldn't control myself and bought another set of lenses from Amazon and decided to stick the provided ring to the phone lens. Macro lens seemed to work fine however as soon as I mounted the wide angle lens ... OIS started freaking out so bad I can't even begin to describe. You can feel the vibrations and see it on the screen as well. I immediately removed the lens and put it away. OP was right about this little thing ... I won't be using wide angle lens to avoid any permanent damage to OIS in the phone .

Any kind of strong magnet will also disorient the directional sensor while using google maps. I was wondering why the turn by turn navi would randomly tell me to make a U-turn.
Test for yourself. Pop open google maps and locate your position. Then put a magnet near the top half of the phone, you'll see your directional pointer spin away.

Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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Yeah good luck. A dedicated camera like an SLR or a point and shoot won't be there when that spur of the moment photo presents itself to you.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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So much NO in this post. "real Photography"? Please. The fact that a photo is taken with a phone vs a DSLR vs medium format vs etc etc is irrelevant. You don't need a (relatively) expensive camera to take good photos. You need creativity and opportunity, that's it.
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I was almost tempted to buy one to play with my N5 camera.. but reading this thread made me worried..
Now I used that little money and bought a wireless charger... should be coming to me tomorrow..

Good to know -- thanks for the warning, you just saved me some time/money no doubt!

[Q] S5 camera will not focus. is there a plastic coating on sensor?

Hi,
I mostly love my att S5, rooted and some xposed framework modules running.
But the camera fails to focus most of the time. I'm coming from the S3 which had a macro focus mode that worked well. The S5 doesn't seem to have a macro mode and when I first tried to focus on something close is when I noticed things aren't right. But the problem happens most of the time at other distances to the subject too.
The failure to focus happens with the Google camera as well.
I googled around and I'm not the only one with the problem. The only suggestion I saw was that there is a protective film on the camera that a lot of people don't see. This seems irrelevant to the sensor failing to judge the proper distance to the subject. I did have the film but it has a hole cut out so the camera's view is unobstructed, I took it off anyway.
I looked at the sensor and it does have an un-glasslike wavey-ness to it.
I started picking away at the edge but it seemed like I might be scratching it and nothing started peeling up. I need to look closer but cant find my magnifying glass. I'm leaning towards no film on there. Does anyone know for sure or have any fix for the focus issue?
Thanks.

I am having the same issue now. Anyone know how to fix?

Try zooming in one step before trying to focus for a macro shot. Works like a charm for me.
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I'll try zooming in first, possibly a great tip but, that picture you posted is a great example of a crap macro. No offense.

You are certainly not the only one. The autofocus is god awful on my S5. Even at normal distances it will often fail to focus. It's something I've just had to accept and live with.

daveyian said:
I'll try zooming in first, possibly a great tip but, that picture you posted is a great example of a crap macro. No offense.
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Which is why i removed it. I selected the wrong one when uploading and then lost all will to upload the correct one. It does work though. Unzoomed I could not get the camera to focus on the coil at all. One zoom step in and it focused immediately.
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same problem with my phone
daveyian said:
Hi,
I mostly love my att S5, rooted and some xposed framework modules running.
But the camera fails to focus most of the time. I'm coming from the S3 which had a macro focus mode that worked well. The S5 doesn't seem to have a macro mode and when I first tried to focus on something close is when I noticed things aren't right. But the problem happens most of the time at other distances to the subject too.
The failure to focus happens with the Google camera as well.
I googled around and I'm not the only one with the problem. The only suggestion I saw was that there is a protective film on the camera that a lot of people don't see. This seems irrelevant to the sensor failing to judge the proper distance to the subject. I did have the film but it has a hole cut out so the camera's view is unobstructed, I took it off anyway.
I looked at the sensor and it does have an un-glasslike wavey-ness to it.
I started picking away at the edge but it seemed like I might be scratching it and nothing started peeling up. I need to look closer but cant find my magnifying glass. I'm leaning towards no film on there. Does anyone know for sure or have any fix for the focus issue?
Thanks.
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I've been having the same issue with my S5 and the back ward facing camera (as the forward facing one works fine). However, I've tried resetting the phone,
I love the phone, but the camera will focus sometimes and sometimes it won't. Resetting the cameras cache and all of it's settings sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
It's still under warranty as I purchased it in Dec of 2014. Called samsung and they will take in for repair, but I'm out the phone for about two weeks!!
Is there something else I can try. I know it's not an app as the hard reset wiped out everything on the phone.

Camera and speakers very bad,how to fix it?

Soo I have had my Xperia Z3 Compact for 2 years now and yeah the camera wasn't the best but it just started to degrade and now it looks like sh*t literally,I have Carbon ROM 5.1 running which is Nougat and I thought if I flashed the Sony Camera Mod and Cyberian with it it would be better,and yes it did get better but I still cannot get good shots in moderately lit situations,only I can get a good shot is on a very sunny day,and the front camera isn't very good either,looks pixelated. And no,no dust entered the camera since the phone was dissasembled recently and cleaned from everything.
So my question is how can I make the camera usable since I am a camera heavy user since I use Snapchat almost all the time and I cannot live without the camera.
And as for the speaker it just seems to be quiet,I always take my bluetooth speaker since the speakers on the phone are very quiet and yes I removed that waterproofing thing from them and the speakers are new since I got the whole front panel changed.
Any suggestions will be taken for granted.

Clean the camera protective cover with toothpaste until you remove the blue anti reflective coating.
Small scratches on the coating will ruin the picture.

kentaurest said:
Clean the camera protective cover with toothpaste until you remove the blue anti reflective coating.
Small scratches on the coating will ruin the picture.
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From the outside of the back cover or the inside?

Dinkec27 said:
From the outside of the back cover or the inside?
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Outside
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general/tut-clean-camera-lens-getting-blurry-t3169539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Y57xrKXj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVv8r7COWuU

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general/tut-clean-camera-lens-getting-blurry-t3169539
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So that solved the back camera,Thank you,but how do I solve the front camera?

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So that solved the back camera,Thank you,but how do I solve the front camera?
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Front camera is quite bad, can't help your there.
In my experience the glue strip which holds the screen and back to the frame slowly lets go, so dust settles in.
If yours is clean, good, but not for long.
Replacement double sided tape is worse quality than the factory tape was.
Some repair services use two double sided tapes to compensate the flex and keep the screen in place.
Snapchat doesn't work well with sony.
I have used z1c, z3c and xc ... with all of them snapchat somehow ruins the picture / video quality.
Because it has to downsize 23 mpix sensor data and doesn't have time or processing power to do it correctly, so it uses previews :
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fyi-why-androids-snapchat-app-takes-inferior-photos-0174597/
Make picture with the phone camera app and then use that in snapchat.
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Found some more about snapchat
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/64xqv0/snapchat_recording_quality/
Snapchat is purposely bad on Android. When you open Snapchat:
both of your phones cameras turn on, the front and back.
both cameras STAY on, even if you are not using them. Even if you are just chatting, watching stories, etc. Ever notice how hot your phone gets and how fast your battery drains? Ta-da!
when you take a picture, it does NOT take a "picture", it is a screenshot of what is displayed on your screen.
Recording a video? It's just a screen record, not an actual video recording using the phones camera.
If you just click home instead of backing out or killing Snapchat, the cameras will continue to run in the background and your battery will go down super fast.
I have similar experience, phone get really warm when sending several snaps and battery depletes super fast.

kentaurest said:
Front camera is quite bad, can't help your there.
In my experience the glue strip which holds the screen and back to the frame slowly lets go, so dust settles in.
If yours is clean, good, but not for long.
Replacement double sided tape is worse quality than the factory tape was.
Some repair services use two double sided tapes to compensate the flex and keep the screen in place.
Snapchat doesn't work well with sony.
I have used z1c, z3c and xc ... with all of them snapchat somehow ruins the picture / video quality.
Because it has to downsize 23 mpix sensor data and doesn't have time or processing power to do it correctly, so it uses previews :
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fyi-why-androids-snapchat-app-takes-inferior-photos-0174597/
Make picture with the phone camera app and then use that in snapchat.
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I know how Snapchat functions and the way it functions is absolutely rubish.
Well my camera isn't like foggy,it is just pixelated. I just need this phone to hold for 6 more months and it can rest in peace.
Taking pictures through the stock camera isn't as bad because the camera app removes the noise anf the pixelation,but in Snapchat it just doesn't look good,and in the viewfinder in the camera app it is the worst.

Camera overheating???

Today i had a stupid issue, while using the camera, main sensor created fog under the lens.
I used a hair dryer to clear it but as soon as i used the camera, lens got foggy again...
Both GCam and nokia cam used, fog kept re-appearing in the lens.
I left the camera to cool down, used the hair dryer again, cleared and reinstalled apps, restarted the phone, seems to be fine now....
Stupid question: Is there a possibility one can kill the camera sensor with a wrong app??? I was currently using GCam Unix 4.0

Tomar777 said:
Today i had a stupid issue, while using the camera, main sensor created fog under the lens.
I used a hair dryer to clear it but as soon as i used the camera, lens got foggy again...
Both GCam and nokia cam used, fog kept re-appearing in the lens.
I left the camera to cool down, used the hair dryer again, cleared and reinstalled apps, restarted the phone, seems to be fine now....
Stupid question: Is there a possibility one can kill the camera sensor with a wrong app??? I was currently using GCam Unix 4.0
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Wtf lol

1st backrider & 2nd urnyx05. The others are latest back rider. Looking at these and looking at specifically picture 1st & last picture it seems as though there's a effect happening with seems apparent in higher lighting shots. Seems foggy/cloudy on certain parts of the picture. Is this what u was dealing with? Last picture was shot before I noticed the fog

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1st backrider & 2nd urnyx05. The others are latest back rider. Looking at these and looking at specifically picture 1st & last picture it seems as though there's a effect happening with seems apparent in higher lighting shots. Seems foggy/cloudy on certain parts of the picture. Is this what u was dealing with? Last picture was shot before I noticed the fog
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Sorry 3rd & 4th picture are what I mean. 3rd took 5 mins ago (after I've noticed foggy affect) and 4th took earlier this morning before noticing fog. Both backrider & urnyx05 picking this up so not port depending much be hardware

yep... now check your upper lens, glass must have gathered some steam...

Tomar777 said:
yep... now check your upper lens, glass must have gathered some steam...
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It's really bad actually. Will look at lense now

Can't make out no mist or anything on lense. I'll try your way out see if I can fix it. Maybe I'll have to take screenshots out and put it in my old 7+ lol

Fixed it! Before & after with backrider latest. Thank F for that

i returned to back.rider 2.6A and im not having any more problems too.