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Could they have made it any more difficult to start a new SMS?

At minimum, 5 fiddly clicks from the Today screen to editing a new SMS.
Anyone know a good short-cut?

Please ignore me...
Just found this thread on page 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330861
thanks!

this already have an open thread with 2 cabs in it I perfer the cab I posted but anyway try searching first next time buddy!

You may want to check out PocketCM. I love the interface and the Threaded SMS view. Very simple and clean.
You simply click contacts, click the contact and then click SMS. there you will see all sms conversations (which you can scroll) your messages are a different color then the contacts and a text input area at the bottom where you just start typing and click send.
I know this isn't what you were talking about but i have gotten very use to this and found it much faster after using it for a couple of months.

pricefix23 said:
At minimum, 5 fiddly clicks from the Today screen to editing a new SMS.
Anyone know a good short-cut?
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As I mentioned in one of the other threads, what I do is start with the contact... from the Today screen, click contacts, select your contact whichever way you like to do, then select "send text message". You're now at the point of editing a new text message. Since all the steps you did to select a contact you would have had to do anyway, those clicks were all "free". This is actually much shorter than if you had the "new" command that people are clamoring for.

Palm Threaded Messaging

Is there any way to get Palm's threaded messaging to work on the Tilt?
I tried the cab from the Hermes forum, which sorta worked, but it removed "Text Messages" from the main Messaging app. On the home screen, there were two lines that both said "No new text messages", one would bring me to the main Messaging app and one would bring me to the threaded view.
Also, I could not use the dpad to flick between the three. I could only choose "Email" or "MMS".
I was able to uninstall with no issue, but I would really like to see this work.

Flapjack said:
Is there any way to get Palm's threaded messaging to work on the Tilt?
I tried the cab from the Hermes forum, which sorta worked, but it removed "Text Messages" from the main Messaging app. On the home screen, there were two lines that both said "No new text messages", one would bring me to the main Messaging app and one would bring me to the threaded view.
Also, I could not use the dpad to flick between the three. I could only choose "Email" or "MMS".
I was able to uninstall with no issue, but I would really like to see this work.
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It does work. The other messaging is for the EMAIL. You should of just left it on and tried to get a txt message.

You got a quick link to the one on Hermes? I had a Palm 750 and kind of liked that feature. Would like to try it on the Tilt.
Found it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=threading

yozh said:
It does work. The other messaging is for the EMAIL. You should of just left it on and tried to get a txt message.
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I did leave it on and sent several text messages to myself to enable the threading.
The "Text Messages" option disappeared from "Messaging". They were no longer linked. Messaging ONLY showed MMS, Outlook Email and New E-Mail Account. I would have to leave Messaging to get to the home screen and pick the other text message option.
Once I uninstalled it, "Text Messages" was back in place under Messaging.
If you don't believe me, I can get a few screenshots to show you...

I've installed (on Tilt w/Kaiser ROM) from link above without any problems. Works like a charm!

Flapjack said:
I did leave it on and sent several text messages to myself to enable the threading.
The "Text Messages" option disappeared from "Messaging". They were no longer linked. Messaging ONLY showed MMS, Outlook Email and New E-Mail Account. I would have to leave Messaging to get to the home screen and pick the other text message option.
Once I uninstalled it, "Text Messages" was back in place under Messaging.
If you don't believe me, I can get a few screenshots to show you...
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i had the same result. i rely on the HTC Touch quicklink to get me to the text messaging now. its still better than clicking twice to get where i need to go but you're right it removes it from the messaging page. the hard button also takes me directly to my outlook email box which i dont use either which is unfortunate. like i said i rely on the Touch interface to get me to the txt msging.
fortunately i dont need any of that other crap - just txt messaging.

byrddogx said:
I've installed (on Tilt w/Kaiser ROM) from link above without any problems. Works like a charm!
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Sure it works... but does it remove "Text Messages" from the Messaging app like quazimoto have described?

Flapjack said:
Sure it works... but does it remove "Text Messages" from the Messaging app like quazimoto have described?
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yes thats how it works!!!! you dont need to have that option there. it makes its own text messaging program. Why do you need it to be there on messaging thats what I dont understand ?

because the other messaging buttons take you there by default -so when the other buttons take you there you're at a dead end.
thats why

So change the buttons in setting --- buttons

I like it.... BUT, I keep getting the "Out of Memory" error when I try to send a pic. I don't know if it happened to others, but my MMS feature along WITH my messaging feature went away when I installed the program. Does anyone know if a fix for this? I NEED the MMS feature to work.

yozh said:
So change the buttons in setting --- buttons
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whats the new app name?

quazimoto said:
whats the new app name?
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messaging (1) try that !

Default for mail inbox when pressing message icon

Hello
I have 2 little questions that bug me a little bit and which i cant find a solution for (and yes i know where the search button is located ).
Situation 1
When im at the today screen (http://www.cryptex.be/tytn2.jpg) and i press the sms icon (the one in the middle under my clock), it goes directly to the inbox of my sms messages, which is great.
Now when i press the email messages icon (the one on the left under my clock), it doesnt go to the inbox of my emails (which i would like it to do). Instead it shows the menu SMS/MMS - Email example - "my emailaccount" - New email account. So i always have to press "my emailaccount" to go to my inbox. In the options menu i already disabled the option "show account chooser when opening messages" but then i always get redirected to the inbox of my SMS messages.
So in a nutshell, i would like it to go to the appropriate inbox when selecting the icons on the today screen:
- SMS inbox when i press sms icon (which already works)
- mail inbox when i press mail icon (which doesnt work atm)
then question nr2
When im calling the screen always, disables within like 10sec or less, which is very annoying when calling your voicemail and you have to press some numeric options. I always have to turn the screen on.
Maybe someone can point me how i can keep the screen enabled ?

I solved my problems now. By searching in the registry and then hitting the words in the seach option on this forum, i found a solution to both of my problems
I've made myself a little textfile where i keep my registry tweaks now
Its very hard to look for something on forums when you dont know what you actually are looking for, so for those who also want the solution for my 2 problems:
Code:
- Launch the e-mail inbox instead of the account chooser when clicking the mail icon
* Make sure the "E-Mail Sample" account is deleted out of your accounts.
* Make sure Outlook is set up to check your mail (only if using Outlook).
* Edit the registry key HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCHome\Home\AlwaysOpenMailFolder
from "1" to "0".
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1658855
Code:
- Prevent Screen Going Off Durning a Call
* Edit the registry key HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0".
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339309&highlight=EnableFastDormantDisplay
PS: my respect for all the people on the forum putting time and effort to make it possible to do all of this

I wonder if these tweaks could make their way into the next upgrade of Kaiser Tweak? I'm sure many people will find them both really useful.
Rob F

Woops, I've just noticed my device doesn't have a Home folder under HTCHome.
I've done a search for "AlwaysOpenMailFolder" which I don't see to have anywhere else in the registry either.
Should I create the \Home\AlwaysOpenMailFolder key and then set the value? What sort of key is it (e.g. binary, string, dword)?
Many thanks
Rob F

Try this and see if that works

texarcana said:
Try this and see if that works
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That seems to refer to the HTC Touch app, which I don't have installed.
Rob F

texarcana said:
I solved my problems now. By searching in the registry and then hitting the words in the seach option on this forum, i found a solution to both of my problems
I've made myself a little textfile where i keep my registry tweaks now
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Just a quick note of thanks for taking the time to document the solutions that you found. I see too many threads where someone tracks down their own fix but they don't take the time to share it for posterity.

Change 'Delete' to 'New' in messaging

Hi, is there any way to change the left soft key in the messaging app from 'Delete' to 'New', like in WM5? I keep deleting messages by mistake.
Many thanks.

matheprat said:
Hi, is there any way to change the left soft key in the messaging app from 'Delete' to 'New', like in WM5? I keep deleting messages by mistake.
Many thanks.
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Go to Tools / Options / Message and tick in "Warn when deleting messages in the message list".
Also, make sure you rea all my articles - I think I've also mentioned this in the Mailer Bible.

Thanks for the reply.
However, your solution doesn't remap the soft key. Maybe I wasn't clear. I want to change the soft key from 'Delete' to 'New', as in WM5.
Thanks.

matheprat said:
Thanks for the reply.
However, your solution doesn't remap the soft key. Maybe I wasn't clear. I want to change the soft key from 'Delete' to 'New', as in WM5.
Thanks.
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I don't know of any hack to do the trick. (The switch was a deliberate and, IMHO, very nice change between WM5 and WM6. I really welcome it as I need to use deletion to get rid of spam than create new mail or SMS.)
BTW, if you do tick in the checkbox, you won't be able to delete anything by mistake as you'll be shown a Yes/No dialog every time you (accidentally) press the left softkey.

but i was very used to the old way. and i don't delete mails on my device, since they get lost after a while anyway, so it should have been an option instead of getting forced to.

Yeah, i'd also like to do this, i pretty much never delete things, and wouldn't mind having to go into a menu to do it, but obviously i create new messages all the time. I'd also like it to technically be a "new SMS" button, since i rarely send picture messages, but since SMS and MMS are combined in WM6, it would have to specify...
-Taylor

Also wanting this, but all i can find on google & xda-dev is the same answers, you can easily map a today softkey to create a new message/e-mail/pop e-mail or even give you a "new" drop-down list. But changing the one in messaging.....cant fine any answers

I've settled for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
Just assigned my PTT button (short press) to start a new blank txt msg

A couple of really strange issues - Please Help!

Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
-- I have tried sending paired, and not paired
-- I have verified that filesharing is on, and all of my bluetooth options are enabled
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
-- In some instances I dont even see the messages that were sent to me. When I tried making PIMBackup to restore the messages again it said they were already there. I have received some new SMS"s that I dont want to wipe out if I can avoid it but i've never seen this before and it makes no sense
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)

RickoT said:
Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)
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Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC

MACkjam said:
Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC
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Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)

RickoT said:
Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)
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I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.

MACkjam said:
I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.
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Yah I've been working on the BT issue since yesterday with no luck
I am using threaded SMS which is why its annoying me that the messages are not appearing in order...
I use WK task in tandem with QuickMenu... I love quick menu, but I still cant figure out how to fix the font sizes... its every context menu not just the tray apps... even my resco context menu is huge and i have to scroll it to do stuff its kind of irritating
Thanks for the suggestions tho, I hope someone has a solution for me, I really like this rom and dont want to change it

Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!

RickoT said:
Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!
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Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly

RickoT said:
Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly
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Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.
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Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404

RickoT said:
Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404
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Yup that only works 40% of the time for me.