Is there any way to get Palm's threaded messaging to work on the Tilt?
I tried the cab from the Hermes forum, which sorta worked, but it removed "Text Messages" from the main Messaging app. On the home screen, there were two lines that both said "No new text messages", one would bring me to the main Messaging app and one would bring me to the threaded view.
Also, I could not use the dpad to flick between the three. I could only choose "Email" or "MMS".
I was able to uninstall with no issue, but I would really like to see this work.
Flapjack said:
Is there any way to get Palm's threaded messaging to work on the Tilt?
I tried the cab from the Hermes forum, which sorta worked, but it removed "Text Messages" from the main Messaging app. On the home screen, there were two lines that both said "No new text messages", one would bring me to the main Messaging app and one would bring me to the threaded view.
Also, I could not use the dpad to flick between the three. I could only choose "Email" or "MMS".
I was able to uninstall with no issue, but I would really like to see this work.
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It does work. The other messaging is for the EMAIL. You should of just left it on and tried to get a txt message.
You got a quick link to the one on Hermes? I had a Palm 750 and kind of liked that feature. Would like to try it on the Tilt.
Found it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=threading
yozh said:
It does work. The other messaging is for the EMAIL. You should of just left it on and tried to get a txt message.
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I did leave it on and sent several text messages to myself to enable the threading.
The "Text Messages" option disappeared from "Messaging". They were no longer linked. Messaging ONLY showed MMS, Outlook Email and New E-Mail Account. I would have to leave Messaging to get to the home screen and pick the other text message option.
Once I uninstalled it, "Text Messages" was back in place under Messaging.
If you don't believe me, I can get a few screenshots to show you...
I've installed (on Tilt w/Kaiser ROM) from link above without any problems. Works like a charm!
Flapjack said:
I did leave it on and sent several text messages to myself to enable the threading.
The "Text Messages" option disappeared from "Messaging". They were no longer linked. Messaging ONLY showed MMS, Outlook Email and New E-Mail Account. I would have to leave Messaging to get to the home screen and pick the other text message option.
Once I uninstalled it, "Text Messages" was back in place under Messaging.
If you don't believe me, I can get a few screenshots to show you...
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i had the same result. i rely on the HTC Touch quicklink to get me to the text messaging now. its still better than clicking twice to get where i need to go but you're right it removes it from the messaging page. the hard button also takes me directly to my outlook email box which i dont use either which is unfortunate. like i said i rely on the Touch interface to get me to the txt msging.
fortunately i dont need any of that other crap - just txt messaging.
byrddogx said:
I've installed (on Tilt w/Kaiser ROM) from link above without any problems. Works like a charm!
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Sure it works... but does it remove "Text Messages" from the Messaging app like quazimoto have described?
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Sure it works... but does it remove "Text Messages" from the Messaging app like quazimoto have described?
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yes thats how it works!!!! you dont need to have that option there. it makes its own text messaging program. Why do you need it to be there on messaging thats what I dont understand ?
because the other messaging buttons take you there by default -so when the other buttons take you there you're at a dead end.
thats why
So change the buttons in setting --- buttons
I like it.... BUT, I keep getting the "Out of Memory" error when I try to send a pic. I don't know if it happened to others, but my MMS feature along WITH my messaging feature went away when I installed the program. Does anyone know if a fix for this? I NEED the MMS feature to work.
yozh said:
So change the buttons in setting --- buttons
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whats the new app name?
quazimoto said:
whats the new app name?
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messaging (1) try that !
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I just rebooted, and now my text messages are gone! There's no "text messages" tab under messaging, and if I select a number and hit "send text message" nothing happens. Now there's an "IPM.root" folder in outlook express instead. Everything else seems fine. Any ideas?
What other software do you have installed out of curiousity?
I had a similar issue except that i didn't lose my text messaging, i lost ALL messaging. As in, I hit the button, clicked the icon, nothing happened. I ended up installing Pocket Informant as my default PIM and for messaging I installed Flexmail 2007. They are not free, but I like them a lot. One of the things I like about Flexmail is the pop/imap only works if the program is running. So if I'm sitting at my computer at work I can close Flexmail and not get redundant emails. Text messaging works as normal.
I never figured out why my messaging disappeared and found no explaination from anyone here. I've tried different ROM's, different software.
Solution
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37120&highlight=ipm+root
DeathBySnuggles said:
What other software do you have installed out of curiousity?
I had a similar issue except that i didn't lose my text messaging, i lost ALL messaging. As in, I hit the button, clicked the icon, nothing happened. I ended up installing Pocket Informant as my default PIM and for messaging I installed Flexmail 2007. They are not free, but I like them a lot. One of the things I like about Flexmail is the pop/imap only works if the program is running. So if I'm sitting at my computer at work I can close Flexmail and not get redundant emails. Text messaging works as normal.
I never figured out why my messaging disappeared and found no explaination from anyone here. I've tried different ROM's, different software.
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Do you have the option "store mail attachments on memory card" ticked?
If so, that's the problem.
It happened to me few times while using two memory cards, all you have to do is delete the folder with mail attachments on the card, uncheck the box, soft reset and check the box again( if you want), problem solved.
I did a hard reset last week and decided to give the standard messaging a shot. So far so good, and now that you mention it, I don't have the "Store attachments on memory card" option checked. It's been almost a week and I haven't lost my messaging.
Thanks for the heads up. Now it just pisses me off that I spend $45 on flexmail and pocketinformant when i really didn't need to.
So if it will happen again try to take out the memory card, soft reset, and put it back AFTER IT STARTED - that also worked
I really don't see a need for third party messaging application, the original is good enough.
The only thing that annoys me is unablity to copy-paste text between Messaging and any other programs, for example writing an email in Pocket Word then copying it and pasting to blank email to send it as a text, not word doc. :evil:
Does not work for hermes 200
rottie said:
So if it will happen again try to take out the memory card, soft reset, and put it back AFTER IT STARTED - that also worked
I really don't see a need for third party messaging application, the original is good enough.
The only thing that annoys me is unablity to copy-paste text between Messaging and any other programs, for example writing an email in Pocket Word then copying it and pasting to blank email to send it as a text, not word doc. :evil:
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I tried what you recommended but I still do not have text messaging as an option under my message selections. I only have outlook email, MMS, IMAP4 and yahoo. Somehow I have managed to loose the text message selection folder. Do you know of anything else that I can do? Thanks
Well I tried PocketCM, and then uninstalled it. Now when I press the mail button or try to send a test message from a contact, nothing happens!
Does anyone know how to restore the native text messaging?
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Well I tried PocketCM, and then uninstalled it. Now when I press the mail button or try to send a test message from a contact, nothing happens!
Does anyone know how to restore the native text messaging?
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i would do a hard reset..it will clean it..i had trouble with palm threaded app on mine and i just hard reseted it..because even if i fix it some other way,everytime i send a text i will feel like what if that text is not delivered..i like the certain solution..hard reset will bring everything to factory installed version
Wow I really don't want to hard reset and loose all the software I've installed.
If no one can provide a way to reset just the text messaging I guess I will have to.
I figured other software has messed up text messaging before so there must be some registry entries or some way to fix this without re-installing the whole device.
-James
Try to contact the developer.
Or ask for help in their forum:
http://www.pocketcm.com/
All better now. I was able to launch the Text Messaging app from a text notification dialog box and it re-asserted itself. Mail button works now. Strange.
-James
Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.
Thanks, i'will give it a try.
looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul
great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying
PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)
True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.
I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.
How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages
gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.
g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward
gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.
Hi!
I'm quite desperate. I'd like to start SMS on my Kaiser with one or two clicks. So please recommend me how to make my SMS box the default message box (I'm not using MMS, who does anyway... I mean SMS are so much more popular) and/or direct "Compose a new SMS" or so. I also use HTC Home. Ideally I'd like to add a button in HTC Home which would directly open a new SMS (not MMS).
And yes, I did use Google "site:forum.xda-developers.com Kaiser SMS" + various combinations of words "default", "folder", "quick", "fast", "button", "MMS"...
I also tried several registry and other things tweakers.
Thanks
Btw, if you could recommend an application for quick taking notes, something like primitive drawing or so... PhatPad maybe?
um htc home (with the big clock) has it with one click..
I don't really understand your request, but this might be what your after? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2287306&postcount=6
EDIT:
Also,
When viewing your SMS's do: Menu, Tools, Options and Untick "Display account picker when opening Messaging".
Ta
Dave
Biges said:
Hi!
I'm quite desperate. I'd like to start SMS on my Kaiser with one or two clicks. So please recommend me how to make my SMS box the default message box (I'm not using MMS, who does anyway... I mean SMS are so much more popular) and/or direct "Compose a new SMS" or so. I also use HTC Home. Ideally I'd like to add a button in HTC Home which would directly open a new SMS (not MMS).
And yes, I did use Google "site:forum.xda-developers.com Kaiser SMS" + various combinations of words "default", "folder", "quick", "fast", "button", "MMS"...
I also tried several registry and other things tweakers.
Thanks
Btw, if you could recommend an application for quick taking notes, something like primitive drawing or so... PhatPad maybe?
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Try installing HTC action screen. It will map the left softkey to be able to create new mms/sms/email/apointment/contact, all with one click of the button. That might be what you're looking for.
Hi,
I am also quite desperate for this. I will try to explain what is that we are after.
When composing a new SMS message we need to follow the following steps.
1. Go to Messaging Application
2. Select SMS \ MMS
3. Click on Menu
4. Click on New
5. Now we need to select SMS from the list that shows MMS / SMS / Voicemail.
Now here is the problem, we would like to have SMS as the first option if possible (It helps save the click I need to do, if I am using the D-Pad), Alternatively, a direct link to just start composing a new SMS message directly without going through multiple menus.
Thanks
Manik
Hi,
I missed the link of my previous post (#3). Sorry. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2287306&postcount=6
The link was to a CAB to create a "New SMS" link on the left or Right soft key.
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Dave
wow, from the main screen I tap 4 times with my finger and I'm good to go. That really isn't that much work.
manikahuja said:
Hi,
I am also quite desperate for this. I will try to explain what is that we are after.
When composing a new SMS message we need to follow the following steps.
1. Go to Messaging Application
2. Select SMS \ MMS
3. Click on Menu
4. Click on New
5. Now we need to select SMS from the list that shows MMS / SMS / Voicemail.
Now here is the problem, we would like to have SMS as the first option if possible (It helps save the click I need to do, if I am using the D-Pad), Alternatively, a direct link to just start composing a new SMS message directly without going through multiple menus.
Thanks
Manik
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ChumleyEX said:
um htc home (with the big clock) has it with one click..
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Well, I click on the the envelope icon (1), then I have to click on "Menu" (2), "Go To" (3), "Text meddages" (4), "Menu" (5), "New" (6). This makes SIX clicks.
for me,
Envelope, menu, new, and sms..
Done.
After clicking the envelope, if it opens to email press the 5 way to the right and it will bring up SMS.
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After clicking the envelope, if it opens to email press the 5 way to the right and it will bring up SMS.
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Thanks! These minors things can make my head hurt
Is there any cab file out there for the AT&T tilt that would allow a message that can't be sent, due to no service, or receiving another text at the same time, ect... Is there any cab that would allow me a message resend button as opposed to having to open the drafts, open the text, send the text, open back up the inbox...?
If this doesn't exist, can anyone capable of writing code create me this hack? It would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
windows mobile 6.1 + "threaded" text messaging
if you are using a WinMo 6.1 ROM, threaded text messaging is enabled by default (if not enabled, use KaiserTweak to enable threaded messaging).
i clearly remember (because it has happened with me TWICE) that the threaded messaging view will display any unsent messages (within the thread) in RED color and will provide a clickable link labeled "Try again"...the function of the link is self explanatory
the combination of events you are talking about (sending a message exactly when receiving a message and/or a phone call) is RARE but it DOES happen...fortunately, i don't mind using the threaded messaging view and i get the resend link (in case of transmission failure for whatever reason) as a bonus
hope this helps...good luck!
It's not necessiarily rare to me as I text all the time, haha. I know what you're talking about, but I don't like threaded text messaging. It becomes slow and sluggish after a while. I highly appreciate the suggestion though!
Does anybody know of a program that would allow this tweak?
Quite some time since I used Arcsoft but didnt they have a resend feature (could be some of the later ed.)? Or am I wrong and it was a feature on 6.1? If it was on 6.1 you could still use it for just that by switching off treaded view.
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
yeahmanitsme said:
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
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Ok hold on, will make a cab for you.
Enjoy !
Raiisak`s En/Disable Treaded SMS
Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
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Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
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Reason I made the cab was to simply add on/off the treaded sms whitout making any change to the notification status for you by simply create this DWORD in youre reg:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:00000000
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Arcsoft_MMS 5_0_31_81 w/ treaded ON had the function to ask if you wanted to resend sms/mms if failed. Try to install that and run my cab and see if the red text comes up comes if the sms fails to send. Chance are that this will solve much of youre problem, other than that I would recomend to try another radio if you have severe signal issues
Sorry for the stupid question but um when you say new radio... You mean....?
If you use custom rom they come whit variouse radio, not always will the given radio work smoothly in youre country and phone. I would read up on this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 and also the OP of the used rom to see if there is any recomended radio for youre phone or country. If none found I would ask in that tread. GL
Is there any way to auto resend a failed message? either for a certain time or an X amount of resends?. My phone constantly goes in and out of service. I dont want to have to keep my phone in my hand waiting for service to kick in then resend.