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Instant Messaging, is OctroTalk the best?

Looking to use AOL IM primarily.. is octrotalk my best choice for Wm6?

I liked Palringo more.
OctroTalk made you register your yahoo as a jabber account or something, so after I did that some mysterious service kept logging into my account even if I wasn't there. So I went and changed the Yahoo IM password, and stopped using OctroTalk.

thanks i will use palringo

anyone have any other suggestions??

IM+ is nice, but its not free.

IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...

IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...I like Agile Messenger also. Its not free either, but cheaper, I think. And it has a nice long trial to decide first.
http://www.agilemobile.com/

thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+

mrkoven said:
thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+
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I just installed IM+ and am very impressed with it. Worth the money.

Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts

I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.

pda_crazy said:
Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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You can send Voice IM with Palringo to any of your contacts. they will receive an IM that has a link to the Palringo site to click on to get your voice message. While it can be a pain (for the person not running Palringo) I've had chats with a contact running Palringo where they are Voice IM'ing me, and I'm typing text back to them.
If you are asking if you can do 2 way voice chat (sort of like skype) then no, Palringo is an IM style Voice. But whats nice about this is the receiver can listen to your message when its convenient for them (like with IM, you read it when its convenient) then respond via voice or text.

Slick by Lonley Cat Games. It's currently free.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick

I used OctroTalk on my Dash when I only used WiFi. It doesn't seem to work over AT&T's MEdia Net because of the proxy.

pda_crazy said:
Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news

SacTilt said:
I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.
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All of them do. Read the IM Bible - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The Windows Mobile Instant Messaging Bible
Also check out the even newer reviews at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instant Messaging, VoIP, other p2p communication

Menneisyys said:
Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news
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Thanks Buddy.
Your review links have answered my all the questions. Hats off to you...
Just One last silly question:--
As you mentioned while installing Fring.. "Make sure you let it also run the CAB file so that it is installed".
My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
Thanks for your help.....

pda_crazy said:
My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
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Yup, you will: WM5+ asks the destination when you directly click a CAB file.
However, Fring is auto-starting and the memory card MAY not be available during booting, which MAY result in a boot-time error message. Therefore, if you encounter these problems after resets, make sure you (re)install it to the built-in storage instead.
pda_crazy said:
Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
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Under WM5+, on models not suffering from compaction problems (and the Kaiser is one of them), it's no longer necessary to keep the built-in storage clean and install / copy as much stuff to the card as possible.

www.fring.com is also a great IM/voice-enabled client.
(And free !!)

I'm using the last freeware version of Agile. Still works fine. Recurring charges are ridiculous for an IM client, especially when you can get great open-source apps like Adium for absolutely no charge. It's legit, since nobody can force you to upgrade your install of their app.
I tried IM+. It was OK but not that great. Mundu refused to let me run their current version despite selling me a "lifetime" license for their PalmOS version a year or two ago, so I not only refuse to pay their extortion fee but recommend against using their software. Their "lifetime" license ... isn't.

Yahoo Messenger..

Hi Guys,
I have instant messenger which is not working properly then i got the Yahoo Go Installed on my phone but it doesn't has yahoo messenger in it. Can anyone give me the link to download Yahoo Messenger only?
Regards,
Siddh

Palringo works well
www.palringo.com/

I prefer octrotalk - like palringo it uses your data plan rather than sms. Still in beta but I prefer it to palringo.
http://www.octrotalk.com

siddesh_0110 said:
Hi Guys,
I have instant messenger which is not working properly then i got the Yahoo Go Installed on my phone but it doesn't has yahoo messenger in it. Can anyone give me the link to download Yahoo Messenger only?
Regards,
Siddh
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Check my link for OZ instant messenger or search there is an active thread going on right now about the best IM messenger.

as with various meesangers whom rely on proxies......
kcjunk said:
I prefer octrotalk - like palringo it uses your data plan rather than sms. Still in beta but I prefer it to palringo.
http://www.octrotalk.com
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Reading the part of the contractual agreement, concerns become a little too uncomfortable.
TERMS AND CONITIONS OF THE OCTROTALK SERVICE PROXY AGREEMENT:​
I understand and agree that OctroTalk proxy server may be acting on my behalf in relaying my messages to some or all of the IM networks and to my device. I understand that data transmitted from my device can go through a proxy operated by Octro, and can be stored temporarily or permanently there.
I agree that Octro has no responsibility or liabilityfor the deletion of, or the failure to store or to transmit, any content and other communications maintained or transmitted by OctroTalk.

BeeJive Messenger if you have a data plan
http://www.beejive.com/download/winmo/
It is beta, but its free at this point. It really works well in my opinion. I have used octrotalk as well and this is much better.

usually yahoo go have the messenger too, try redownload,.
or the one i like the best is Beejive IM,.

Best free Email client! Push For all!

I was browsing around and came across that Seven, www.seven.com
Has clients for the magic and the htc dream.
For those who don't know system seven is a great push email solution, It is free!
the beta sign up is here.
http://community.seven.com/choose.html

I'd hold off on this one. Have you seen their issue list for the Android version? It's longer than my leg!
It does look interesting though. Does it accomplish PUSH via SMS like everyone else? If so, can I register my Google Voice # to get SMS free? I should probably post this on their forums

thanks, imm downloading it now been wishing for a normal email client for ages!
ok tryed it!
the sign up is only for the forum you dont need to sign up for anything to use the app.
when i first ran the app it asked me for my phone number, i put in a bogus one out of curiosity and my push notifications still worked.
so needless to say, I LOVE THIS APP!!!!!!!

this is looking nice. a few bugs, like it keeps asking me if i want to add another account... and i don't have another to add but i guess its nice it asked ;p Should be nice once it develops.

fleebailey33 said:
For those who don't know system seven is a great push email solution, It is free!
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Yeah, read about this service last year. Interesting to know it is developing an Android client.
However, I can't be the only one who thinks that for a true smartphone platform like Android, it makes little sense (and indeed adds unnecessary uncertainty and security issues) to be routing mail through an intermediate party when there are applications that can connect directly to the mail server.

i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?

Freedomcaller said:
i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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Doesn't the mail have to go through their servers? How else would it be delivered via SMS?

its not delievered by sms.....

Freedomcaller said:
its not delievered by sms.....
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How else would they do push?

same way the gmail app does, and the iphone and every other phone out there does. through the interweb!
i dont know the details, but sms isnt the only way to push....

Freedomcaller said:
same way the gmail app does, and the iphone and every other phone out there does. through the interweb!
i dont know the details, but sms isnt the only way to push....
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As far as I know, all of the apps you just listed DO use SMS for push e-mail. That is the main reason people with Data plans that don't include messaging cannot use the stock GMail app.
The old "PULL" method is where the mail app reaches out to the server every so often and downloads any e-mails if it finds them. This of course wastes battery life since it does this polling regardless.
The "PUSH" is different in such a way that the server sends specifically-formulated SMS's that are intercepted by the GMail/iPhone Mail/other mail apps. These apps then prevent these SMS's from showing up as SMS, and instead they reach out and grab the e-mail from the server. This saves battery life by eliminating scheduled polling, while at the same time provides that "instant" e-mail feel.

Chahk said:
As far as I know, all of the apps you just listed DO use SMS for push e-mail. That is the main reason people with Data plans that don't include messaging cannot use the stock GMail app.
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The GMail app does not use SMS to push, it can maintain a TCP connection, as does most other "push" type applications.
If Seven does not use SMS to push then mea culpa. However, from the looks of their website, all data still has to route through their servers.

i read through thier privacy statement on thier website. is sais they dont store any of your data. altough it dosnt say it does not route through...

Freedomcaller said:
i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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They ARE the THIRD PARTY

you can compare it simliar to how blackberry works. everything is routeted through blackberry's servers before it hits your phone. blackberry being the third party. that's why when you sign up for a BB plan, u get BIS or BES, it all goes through blackberrys servers. It isnt like microsoft's direct push where the connection is only from the server to your phone, no third party. I used seven when i had WMO, it was ok, it doesnt use SMS.
you download an app to your phone and you connect the app to seven's servers. this keeps a constant connection and when you get email, seven willl alert the app which notify you and download the email. it was ok, but the app was very laggy and it was a major battery killer.

NEW MSN?!

Hello, I am needing a new MSN, really need this one, I use the regular MSN of fuze, but it input (on mobile device) up in my window, so I tryied another one, I think you already know, it is SLICK
Slick works many protocols, as ICQ, YAHOO, MSN and others, and it let you to log-in offline, and send/receive offline messages, but there is a very annoying problem with the slick.
I dont know why, but when I am using it, and the fuze sleeps, so many times appear the message: "FAILED TO ALOC MEMORY" ERROR
I would like to find a app that I can use it as slick, but without this disturbing error, it everytimes updates, I the developers should have thinked about it already, because it is so normal to happen.
Do you know any app?

try out beejive

well I found nimbuzz works great for me.... hope this helps

Try Parlingo
try parlinggo, its great and have simple but nice interface

Palringo
Yes. I must agree palringo works great, and with many protocols. Im using it with msn, yahoo, and facebook.

CAB for nimbuzz
Cal_R said:
well I found nimbuzz works great for me.... hope this helps
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Nimbuzz seems to be a great app. Seems to be the only one with skype integration. Do you have any idea where to get the cab for Nimbuzz? The java version perfectly starts using JavaFX, but the touch screen doesn't work.

stukes said:
Yes. I must agree palringo works great, and with many protocols. Im using it with msn, yahoo, and facebook.
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+1 for palringo

ebuddy? i use this and it works great i must say :/

Skype

Ive noticed that they have released a skype app for some phones such as the new desire, but not for the nexus one. If anyone has the apk for the new version of skype (not the beta that was around a year ago) could they please upload it to the board or email it to me? thank you very much if you can help.
My email is iamwhoamnot at gmail

What's wrong with Fring? It even supports video just fine.

Jack_R1 said:
What's wrong with Fring? It even supports video just fine.
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yeah, fring lets you sign into your skype account.

A few things are wrong with fring and nimbuzz and other clients, mostly because of their nature of being a proxy service rather than a true P2P app.
1. They store your credentials - you need to give fring and nimbuzz your user name and password to many services and trust them not to abuse it. You eventually just log in with their account password - and they connect to all other accounts you have using their stored details.
2. Proxy service - (a) Latency and (b) bad security.
(a) Since you don't directly call the other party you actually send your voice data to the fring servers which then forward it to the other person's skype - so fring in effect act as a middle man. this introduces latencies - as the data takes a longer route to get to the other side.
(b) Also it opens the opportunity for them to eavesdrop the conversation. It works not only for skype but also for all other types of accounts - like gtalk, fb chat, icq, aim - they have all your messages and then forward them.
These 2 reasons are why i can't wait for true p2p apps for all my chatting and voice needs - privacy and performance.

Jack_R1 said:
What's wrong with Fring?
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-Its not Skype
-Many people including myself dislike Frings cheesy interface.
But as you righly say, it will do the job until such time as Skype put out a build of their own.