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Htc Tytn ii has stepped up but what is in the furture of the next phone coming next

the htc tytn iii
this thread is for what you want to see in the next tytn iii that will be sent to htc in January
What i hope is that they combine the htc tytn ii with the htc touch dual imagine the possibility
i also hope that htc will add more multimedia features to the htc tytn iii because then it will be the greatest phone.

And a VGA screen for me please.

VGA screen, 600+ mhz CPU, 8GB onboard storage, stronger GPS, 128MB ram, go back to the Wizard/Hermes keyboard slide from right to left, an keep the longer stylus, so much nicer to use than the telescoping style.

decepticon said:
VGA screen, 600+ mhz CPU, 8GB onboard storage, stronger GPS, 128MB ram, go back to the Wizard/Hermes keyboard slide from right to left, an keep the longer stylus, so much nicer to use than the telescoping style.
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the kaiser has 128mb of ram. you wouldnt need to include an already existing feature in your new dream device, only better fetures.
btw i like the way the keyboard comes out much more, the reason is because it's better for gaming and emultors, more are compatible with the keyboard that way.

Give me my IRDA back!
Make the keyboard slide like the Wizard.
VGA Screen.
Anything else will be gravy but taking away the IRDA was the biggest injustice.

Checkout E-Ten M800. The only hope, they will increase to 128 MB RAM, but anything else ... nice
decepticon said:
VGA screen, 600+ mhz CPU, 8GB onboard storage, stronger GPS, 128MB ram, go back to the Wizard/Hermes keyboard slide from right to left, an keep the longer stylus, so much nicer to use than the telescoping style.
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faster cpu. (This was my first windows phone and honestly I was expecting a lot more. It's loads better than my old 6682 but still it's making me keep my laptop that I was hoping to replace with this phone)
faster gps lock times if possible
support for sd or minisd. cheaper and larger storage and shouldn't take up too much room I'd imagine
if they wanted to keep the tilt, have it click lock in tilted position. I find it always sagging down when I'm using it.
make ie able to browse websites while they're still loading. it's terrible right now. hopefully firefox mobile will be great
ccd camera
irda would be nice if it could work as a universal remote
make the touch screen much better. learn from iphone

I hate to say it, but:
VGA screen (or higher res), more built in RAM or at least cheaper flash, faster CPU, lower latency data speeds, thinner design, multitouch... a lot of the things the iPhone is doing. Now, I'm no iPhone fan, but they do get a lot of things right. I'd be super happy if I could get the functionality of a WM phone with the looks and hardware of an iPhone (and a little thicker for a real qwerty keypad).

too bad multitouch is patented by apple, so unless you think HTC is going to license it from them (which they wont) you can scratch that one off your list

I dont understand why multitouch is so popular? It requires you to use your finger, no style. No accuracy. When do you even use multi touch? To make pictures bigger and smaller? What else needs multi touch? Most of the "multi touch" features can be done without multi touch.

Probably not a big thing on this forum, but a nicer camera, ideally with a xenon flash to replace a compact for everyday shooting. After all, if it can navigate, surf and e-mail, why not take pictures?
Bigger screen, even if it means a little bigger size. The E90 and iPhone are good examples of this in operation - less scrolling.

Doug2873 said:
too bad multitouch is patented by apple, so unless you think HTC is going to license it from them (which they wont) you can scratch that one off your list
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AFAIK, they only patented a method of sensors for multitouch, not the idea of touching two things at once. The latter has been around for 20 years.
The Microsoft Surface table is an example of multitouch technology, they just use different types of sensors than the iPhone. If HTC or some other company develops a way to register multiple touches, then it would be fine.
Although, to my original point, multitouch isn't that big a deal to me. It's more the svelteness of the iPhone that I dig, although it's functionality is severely lacking.

VGA Screen
Faster CPU 600/800mhz
More on-board memory ram & rom for future upgrades without needing to upgrade the device
External Storage (Via MiniUSB for 300gb HDD)
Wizard Keyboard Open (more people use it in their left hand not their right and push up with the thumb ready to type)
Keep the full length stylus that rules over the telescopic one
Camera mode choice of auto focus or normal point and shoot and bring back the flash
Make all utility buttons on the sides the same height as the current (OK) button not like the current camera button and keep the power button lower
Allow more customisation without needing to hack programs.
Multiple SIM card support (Contract & PAYG with call waiting between the 2)
Thats about it for now
Russ

fuzzycuffs said:
I hate to say it, but:
VGA screen (or higher res), more built in RAM or at least cheaper flash, faster CPU, lower latency data speeds, thinner design, multitouch... a lot of the things the iPhone is doing. Now, I'm no iPhone fan, but they do get a lot of things right. I'd be super happy if I could get the functionality of a WM phone with the looks and hardware of an iPhone (and a little thicker for a real qwerty keypad).
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They say it's got a lot of RAM. Would explain why it's missing UMTS, HSDPA, a secondary camera and GPS.
However I do agree with you, it would have been nice if our WM6 devices ran as smoothly and were as fun.

A transflective screen... please
It is really stupid of them to not have a transflective screen on the Kaiser.

a radio (FM and ideally AM).
VGA screen
faster CPU
support for full-size or at least mini-sd

VGA screen...I still dont understand why all PDAs dont have them.

+ maybe 256 MB RAM (though I enjoy the "luxury" of 128 MB at the moment
+ somewhat faster processor (e.g. 500, max. 600 MHz --> consumes more energy !)
+ a stronger battery !!! --> 1500-1600 mAh
+ a VGA Display (that of the imate Ultimate 8150 is cool)
+ agreed: Consumer IRDA for use as remote control woudn't be bad, but only optional
+ better camera binaries; a 3 MP for a phone is quite ok, but the camera binary is lagging and should be improved by a quick firmware upgrade
+ separate headphone jack
All in all the TyTN II is by far the most exciting PDA I've ever had.
Lies absolutely smart in your hand and the slider mechanism is gorgeous.
I had the TyTN I before. Nothing to compare with the TyTN II.
All I can say: well done HTC !
Just consider our proposals for future improvements ;-)

And NO !
Not going back to MiniSD or full-sized SD !!!
I have a 6GB MicroSD now in the TyNN II. It works fine.
Only 1 week away from commercial availability of the 8GB MicroSD.
SanDisk will soon also come up with faster versions of the MicroSD series.
So why going back to a form-factor, which wouldn't bring any real benefit (and the MiniSD was only a transient standards, which is dying out at the moment).
Let's use full-size SD for "real" full-fledged digicams and MicroSD for phones and small PDAs !
I've been sceptical about MicroSD in the beginning myself. My biggest concern has been on how MicroSD would catch up in memory capacity with (Mini)SD.
The industry - to my big surprise - understood the market demand this time quite well and sooner than I expected the memory size-factor "exploded".
8GB MicroSD cards initially weren't expected before YE2008 or early 2009.
Now they are (almost) materialized...
12, 16 and even 32GB MicroSD cards are expected in 2008 and 2009.
(Only to mention: for my first digital camera in 2000 I purchased a 32MB CompactFlash card for the price I get today 3x a 6GB MicroSD card.)

I would personally like:
VGA Screen
1 Ghz Processor
8Gb On Board Storage
5mp Camera W/ a flash that actually works affectively
4G data speeds.
Better Audio Speaker
Built In Itunes
Video Conferencing (Front Facing Camera In The USA)
Stronger Bluetooth
Built In Bluetooth Audio Routing
Built In Youtube
I know i'm asking too much but if this were in a phone, laptops are officially worthless to have. This is probably what you'll see in phones in 2015 and then we'll be complaining on how it's too slow and we want more.

Getting a Diamond

Hi there , first post in this section, I'm looking at getting
rid of my Artmenis and getting a new HTC Diamond for those
of you who have already jumped ship how does it compare,
I mean do you find it much better

Ok , does anyone recommend it or should I go for something else

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Hi, I had Artemis before my Diamond so here is my opinion:
The difference in size is really significant. Althrough the ergonomy isn't so excellent, it is a great change than having Artemis. Better and faster CPU, RAM, etc. is of course another advantage. I really recommend the Diamond. It is worth to buy it.
Some cons: slow speed in TF3D (depends on ROM), low sound quality (also can be improved by some apps)
Must say that it was a good choice to move to Diamond from Artemis

Suggest you wait until the Touch HD is release....you'll probably get a great bargain as people migrate to the new model

If you like music, don't get it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412065

I've got both & both have pro's & con's
diamond is great, apart from the 4gb space limit barrier.
biggest + is it looks so damn gorgeous & the internet on it is far far superior v's the artemis, U-tube & opera run fast, aslso gps runs faster & are very smoothe.
artemis is great, apart from its too slow (mines is overclocked to 240mz) but its really slow & I run hardly anything on it.
biggest + is you can stick an 8gb (or even higher I believe) microsd in it like I have so you can store way much more stuff on it v's the diamond.
I use the diamond currently & gave the artemis to me GF who likes her mp3's more than me, so she gets better use of the bigger gb's.
But we all have opinions & mines is the diamonds great but it would have been so much better if had the ability to use a microsd also as well as the 4gb, or have just had a low gb onboard to start with like 1gb or so & used a microsd for the users who like a lot of storage.
4GB IS ITS DOWNFALL
hey, but its still GORGEOUS

Looks and size does it for me, going to get one and
its off to ebay for my old faithfull

Why upgrade to Topaz from Fuze (Touch Pro)?

As much as i love my Fuze - i don't see a real change or upgrade to the Touch Pro 2 (and in some ways they downgraded i.e. no flash (i created a macro button on my today screen to use it as a flash light) and no magnetic stylus - seriously don't reinvent the wheel - keep the good stuff.
And not to mention, same processor (528 Mhz.) and same amount of RAM (512).
So other than a few extra mm screen size, win 6.5 and a disputable keypad - can anyone tell me why I would want to go through the process of changing and installing all of the app's simply to have the newest phone?
sDs

if you have extra money to spend, want bigger screen phone, you are a tech junkie, you want to have the latest phone to brag to your friends, you are a hardcore chef who likes cooking rom, OR if you are like me who has been stuck for 5 years with the same phone, then yeah, you need to upgrade....
otherwise, no...

Looking at what you've got, I wouldn't upgrade yet, the leap in terms of spec wouldn't be enough to justify it, but for me its different, I'm coming from the XDA Orbit (Artemis):
Orbit:
201mhz, 128mb ROM, 64mb RAM, 240x320 pixels, 2 Mp Camera Fixed Focus, no flash, 2G only (Max EGDE)
Fuze:
528 MHz, 512mb ROM, 288mb RAM, 480 x 640 pixels, 3.2 Mp Camera with Autofocus & Flash, 3G
Touch Diamond 2:
528 MHz, 512mb ROM, 288mb RAM, 480 X 800 pixels, 5 Mp Camera with Autofocus, no flash, 3G
So for me its a leap, for you not so much, but hey if you want the keyboard there's always the Touch Pro2?

Should I buy a diamond 2 when I've already got a Diamond?

I've been offered a Diamond 2 for pretty cheap and I was wondering what the guys thought about updating?
is it really worth the expense for a removable card and a little bigger screen...or is there more to it?
Is this all there is?
what do you think?
Thanks
mike

The Diamond 2 offers two main advantages:
1. style. It has a bigger screen, and looks better. This is ofcourse depending on your own taste
2. Software. The Diamond 2 has, in my opinion, a much better touchflo interface.
Ofcourse 1 can only be achieved by buying the device. But 2 can also be achieved by a custom ROM. I personally use Gen.Y's D2 ROM. It basically just the diamond rom with the diamond 2 interface installed: very nice. If you want to update read this for a guide. Also wait a few days, Gen.Y will release R5.1 on january 5.
He also makes roms based on the new HTC HD2 Sense interface: Gen.Y's D2X ROM. I've tried it: its definitly a nice interface upgrade but it's kind of laggy on the diamond and uses more RAM. If you want it you should buy a real HD2: it's hardware is very good and reviews say it's super-fast (it has a 1Ghz CPU as opposed to the +-500Mhz of the Diamond, Diamond2 etc.).
To round up: I wouldn't do it, just install a custom rom for the new interface and save the money for a real upgrade, like the HD2.

Thanks for the thoughts, i originally got the TD cos of it's size to power ratio, i recn that the HD/2 is pushing the size thing for me.
I can put the TD in an aluminium belt case and it's not really in the way. the HD may be thou....I need to do more homework first

I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive (diamond1 screen is full of scratches).
Yes, the diamond2 is bigger, but the bigger screen really has advantages (surfing, calender use, input etc..) and i must admit too that TF3D works alot smoother outta the box with diamond2.
Tx to this site i managed to upgrade my diamond1 to a higher standard so it still suits my needs, but i keep bumping in to memory problems (RAM and storage) every now and then, where the diamond2 has no problems at all.
Diamond2 runs even smoother with the newer cooked ROMS (even the ones with all the Leo stuff in it).
I would definitaly choose the diamond2 above the diamond1, but plz don't tell my hubby

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I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive
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The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.

I prefer Diamond II than Diamond I which has
+ Better battery
+ Expansion card slot
+ Bigger screen
+ Reservered ( I haven't got it yet )
I'll take Diamond II when I have chance.

hmmm.....can i justify the expense it's in really good nic and my beloved 3700 is looking a bit worse for wear ...

I love my Diamond but it has it's disadvantages like a shortage of RAM, although the Diamond II does have more RAM it wouldn't make sense for me personally to upgrade to a Diamond II (both have basically the same hardware). I'm due for an upgrade next week and thought that it would be best to upgrade to the Touch HD2 but since it's not available in my country yet I opted to go for the Touch Pro 2 since it has some nice features that the Diamond II does not have... and offcourse a nice big slide out keyboard! The fact that the Diamond II has a 5mp camera and the Touch Pro 2 only a 3.2mp one doesn't matter much to me as well since I barely use it in any case.

It's difficult to add more to what has already been said for the advantages of the Diamond 2 over the Diamond 1.
Recap:
• way better camera
• way better screen
• way better memory (Ram & Rom)
• better battery consumption
• better construction build
• despite the CPU's are identical in specs. Diamond 2 CPU is been rated faster then original diamond
Bonus:
• if you have a great price it's a no brainier as the original Diamond can only compete if lighter weight and smaller size was a priority.
If it had a 3.5mm Jack, heck I think I would trade in my HD for it....

dtechnology said:
The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
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You're right, i didn't know the processor was the same (only different last digit in specs and rated just a tinytiny bit faster), and i'm comparing them running both on WM6.5 with Sense 2.5, that's not fair towards the good ol' diamond1

I've been thinking about what to upgrade to myself actually. I'm not really willing to pay for a phone offline- so have to restrict myself to the upgrade options available on T-Mobile UK.
The obvious choice would be the HD2 but just thinking it is just that too big, especially going from a Diamond (?)
I dont see the Vario V (HTC Rhodium/TP2) on T-Mobile UK site, anyone if they still do it?
I agree with others that the Diamond2 probably wouldnt be worth it. Saying that, if the price you are getting it at is really cheap then it could be an option; you could always sell off your Diamond. But I'm definitely not about to 'waste' my upgrade on the Diamond2
With the latest ROMs around at the moment, the Diamond barely manages to cope (WM 6.5.x with Sense 2.5 for example).

dtechnology is correct
its just down to personal choice to be fair

I want to buy htc diamond , but they say its too slow and have many lag !! is it righ

I want to buy htc diamond , but they say its too slow and have many lag !! is it righ ??

That's not good idea at the moment - diamond is good device but it's too old and its battery is not good .

dont get it. it has ALOT of lag. texting freezes all the time also

The Diamond was my previous device. It was quite capable for me. But there really is no reason to get it at this time, unless someone just gives it to you with no strings attached.
Much more capable devices are out there. (Touch HD, HD2, Diamond2, Touch Pro2, Omnia2, etc)

If it's the only phone you can effort, I should buy it.
But if you can spend more money I should definately go for the HD2 or wait for some newer devices.

I like my Diamond. The only weak point is the battery. And one more thing: doesn't take mem cards... It's been on the market a while ago, so there are many cooked ROMs if you don't like it. Just flash another one.

so how much it coast for used one "htc Diamond " in your country

in Lithuania used Diamond costs about 150€ - 200€, in good condition without scratches about 300€

I bought a new Diamond in November for 155€ on ebay here in Germany. Now you'll get a new one for 134€. It was worth it. But you need to upgrade your ROM, Radio to enjoy the phone. TomTom, IGO8 or Navigon are very useful tools that you should put on the Diamond.
It is still a little bit slow and Windows Mobile is a pretty bad OS, but awesome for the money.

up to you really
it actually depends on your usage.
if you are just the average phone user who makes calls, sms or the occasional internet surfing its good enough. diamonds pitfall is really about the vga resolution. with 196mb(or was it 128) of ram, almost half of it was allocated for the graphics. the ati imageon processor eats a lot of ram. there is where i guess all the memory was wasted...
if htc had made the diamond into a qvga device, it would be blazing fast because qualcom msm chips rarely go over 400mhz and the diamond packed a 528mhz proc (if memory served me right) i guess most of it is shared with the ati imageon graphic processor. (which is a shame where imageon never cought on in the mobile world)
so with the technicalities aside, if you have the money get a touchpro or newer models because they have at least 256mb of ram. and the new snapdragons processors felt really nice.
but i guess the hardware is only as good as the software, and that's where xda-developers came in. when i first bought my diamond in 2008, it was hell for the first couple of weeks as the tf3d was actually released half baked... sluggish. then i just what i always did and do away with the warranty and flashed a cooked rom with all the bloat removed (windows and oem manufacturers really like to give us bloatware dont they?) then hallelujah. i have a fast stable device. its not as pretty as other mobile oses, but it works.