As much as i love my Fuze - i don't see a real change or upgrade to the Touch Pro 2 (and in some ways they downgraded i.e. no flash (i created a macro button on my today screen to use it as a flash light) and no magnetic stylus - seriously don't reinvent the wheel - keep the good stuff.
And not to mention, same processor (528 Mhz.) and same amount of RAM (512).
So other than a few extra mm screen size, win 6.5 and a disputable keypad - can anyone tell me why I would want to go through the process of changing and installing all of the app's simply to have the newest phone?
sDs
if you have extra money to spend, want bigger screen phone, you are a tech junkie, you want to have the latest phone to brag to your friends, you are a hardcore chef who likes cooking rom, OR if you are like me who has been stuck for 5 years with the same phone, then yeah, you need to upgrade....
otherwise, no...
Looking at what you've got, I wouldn't upgrade yet, the leap in terms of spec wouldn't be enough to justify it, but for me its different, I'm coming from the XDA Orbit (Artemis):
Orbit:
201mhz, 128mb ROM, 64mb RAM, 240x320 pixels, 2 Mp Camera Fixed Focus, no flash, 2G only (Max EGDE)
Fuze:
528 MHz, 512mb ROM, 288mb RAM, 480 x 640 pixels, 3.2 Mp Camera with Autofocus & Flash, 3G
Touch Diamond 2:
528 MHz, 512mb ROM, 288mb RAM, 480 X 800 pixels, 5 Mp Camera with Autofocus, no flash, 3G
So for me its a leap, for you not so much, but hey if you want the keyboard there's always the Touch Pro2?
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the htc tytn iii
this thread is for what you want to see in the next tytn iii that will be sent to htc in January
What i hope is that they combine the htc tytn ii with the htc touch dual imagine the possibility
i also hope that htc will add more multimedia features to the htc tytn iii because then it will be the greatest phone.
And a VGA screen for me please.
VGA screen, 600+ mhz CPU, 8GB onboard storage, stronger GPS, 128MB ram, go back to the Wizard/Hermes keyboard slide from right to left, an keep the longer stylus, so much nicer to use than the telescoping style.
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VGA screen, 600+ mhz CPU, 8GB onboard storage, stronger GPS, 128MB ram, go back to the Wizard/Hermes keyboard slide from right to left, an keep the longer stylus, so much nicer to use than the telescoping style.
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the kaiser has 128mb of ram. you wouldnt need to include an already existing feature in your new dream device, only better fetures.
btw i like the way the keyboard comes out much more, the reason is because it's better for gaming and emultors, more are compatible with the keyboard that way.
Give me my IRDA back!
Make the keyboard slide like the Wizard.
VGA Screen.
Anything else will be gravy but taking away the IRDA was the biggest injustice.
Checkout E-Ten M800. The only hope, they will increase to 128 MB RAM, but anything else ... nice
decepticon said:
VGA screen, 600+ mhz CPU, 8GB onboard storage, stronger GPS, 128MB ram, go back to the Wizard/Hermes keyboard slide from right to left, an keep the longer stylus, so much nicer to use than the telescoping style.
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faster cpu. (This was my first windows phone and honestly I was expecting a lot more. It's loads better than my old 6682 but still it's making me keep my laptop that I was hoping to replace with this phone)
faster gps lock times if possible
support for sd or minisd. cheaper and larger storage and shouldn't take up too much room I'd imagine
if they wanted to keep the tilt, have it click lock in tilted position. I find it always sagging down when I'm using it.
make ie able to browse websites while they're still loading. it's terrible right now. hopefully firefox mobile will be great
ccd camera
irda would be nice if it could work as a universal remote
make the touch screen much better. learn from iphone
I hate to say it, but:
VGA screen (or higher res), more built in RAM or at least cheaper flash, faster CPU, lower latency data speeds, thinner design, multitouch... a lot of the things the iPhone is doing. Now, I'm no iPhone fan, but they do get a lot of things right. I'd be super happy if I could get the functionality of a WM phone with the looks and hardware of an iPhone (and a little thicker for a real qwerty keypad).
too bad multitouch is patented by apple, so unless you think HTC is going to license it from them (which they wont) you can scratch that one off your list
I dont understand why multitouch is so popular? It requires you to use your finger, no style. No accuracy. When do you even use multi touch? To make pictures bigger and smaller? What else needs multi touch? Most of the "multi touch" features can be done without multi touch.
Probably not a big thing on this forum, but a nicer camera, ideally with a xenon flash to replace a compact for everyday shooting. After all, if it can navigate, surf and e-mail, why not take pictures?
Bigger screen, even if it means a little bigger size. The E90 and iPhone are good examples of this in operation - less scrolling.
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too bad multitouch is patented by apple, so unless you think HTC is going to license it from them (which they wont) you can scratch that one off your list
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AFAIK, they only patented a method of sensors for multitouch, not the idea of touching two things at once. The latter has been around for 20 years.
The Microsoft Surface table is an example of multitouch technology, they just use different types of sensors than the iPhone. If HTC or some other company develops a way to register multiple touches, then it would be fine.
Although, to my original point, multitouch isn't that big a deal to me. It's more the svelteness of the iPhone that I dig, although it's functionality is severely lacking.
VGA Screen
Faster CPU 600/800mhz
More on-board memory ram & rom for future upgrades without needing to upgrade the device
External Storage (Via MiniUSB for 300gb HDD)
Wizard Keyboard Open (more people use it in their left hand not their right and push up with the thumb ready to type)
Keep the full length stylus that rules over the telescopic one
Camera mode choice of auto focus or normal point and shoot and bring back the flash
Make all utility buttons on the sides the same height as the current (OK) button not like the current camera button and keep the power button lower
Allow more customisation without needing to hack programs.
Multiple SIM card support (Contract & PAYG with call waiting between the 2)
Thats about it for now
Russ
fuzzycuffs said:
I hate to say it, but:
VGA screen (or higher res), more built in RAM or at least cheaper flash, faster CPU, lower latency data speeds, thinner design, multitouch... a lot of the things the iPhone is doing. Now, I'm no iPhone fan, but they do get a lot of things right. I'd be super happy if I could get the functionality of a WM phone with the looks and hardware of an iPhone (and a little thicker for a real qwerty keypad).
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They say it's got a lot of RAM. Would explain why it's missing UMTS, HSDPA, a secondary camera and GPS.
However I do agree with you, it would have been nice if our WM6 devices ran as smoothly and were as fun.
A transflective screen... please
It is really stupid of them to not have a transflective screen on the Kaiser.
a radio (FM and ideally AM).
VGA screen
faster CPU
support for full-size or at least mini-sd
VGA screen...I still dont understand why all PDAs dont have them.
+ maybe 256 MB RAM (though I enjoy the "luxury" of 128 MB at the moment
+ somewhat faster processor (e.g. 500, max. 600 MHz --> consumes more energy !)
+ a stronger battery !!! --> 1500-1600 mAh
+ a VGA Display (that of the imate Ultimate 8150 is cool)
+ agreed: Consumer IRDA for use as remote control woudn't be bad, but only optional
+ better camera binaries; a 3 MP for a phone is quite ok, but the camera binary is lagging and should be improved by a quick firmware upgrade
+ separate headphone jack
All in all the TyTN II is by far the most exciting PDA I've ever had.
Lies absolutely smart in your hand and the slider mechanism is gorgeous.
I had the TyTN I before. Nothing to compare with the TyTN II.
All I can say: well done HTC !
Just consider our proposals for future improvements ;-)
And NO !
Not going back to MiniSD or full-sized SD !!!
I have a 6GB MicroSD now in the TyNN II. It works fine.
Only 1 week away from commercial availability of the 8GB MicroSD.
SanDisk will soon also come up with faster versions of the MicroSD series.
So why going back to a form-factor, which wouldn't bring any real benefit (and the MiniSD was only a transient standards, which is dying out at the moment).
Let's use full-size SD for "real" full-fledged digicams and MicroSD for phones and small PDAs !
I've been sceptical about MicroSD in the beginning myself. My biggest concern has been on how MicroSD would catch up in memory capacity with (Mini)SD.
The industry - to my big surprise - understood the market demand this time quite well and sooner than I expected the memory size-factor "exploded".
8GB MicroSD cards initially weren't expected before YE2008 or early 2009.
Now they are (almost) materialized...
12, 16 and even 32GB MicroSD cards are expected in 2008 and 2009.
(Only to mention: for my first digital camera in 2000 I purchased a 32MB CompactFlash card for the price I get today 3x a 6GB MicroSD card.)
I would personally like:
VGA Screen
1 Ghz Processor
8Gb On Board Storage
5mp Camera W/ a flash that actually works affectively
4G data speeds.
Better Audio Speaker
Built In Itunes
Video Conferencing (Front Facing Camera In The USA)
Stronger Bluetooth
Built In Bluetooth Audio Routing
Built In Youtube
I know i'm asking too much but if this were in a phone, laptops are officially worthless to have. This is probably what you'll see in phones in 2015 and then we'll be complaining on how it's too slow and we want more.
Goodmorning Guys,
I am looking at purchasing a Diamond through Telstra but am reading mixed reviews. Some places give it 10/10, others 6/10, etc...
I have a iMate JasJam. Now will the Diamond be a vast improvement to this phone or will it be the same? (I don't need a keyboard, rather have a thinner phone)
I would rather hear from you guys who actually have one and play with one. I know the Telstra rom can be laggy, but with a flash is everything much better?
Thanks in Advance.
Trust me the Diamond is like nothing you owned before!
I also thought it was a great device, but now I'm not so happy anymore.
+ Camera
+ 640x480 screen
+ Speed ( Allthough it has some trouble with 640x480 resolution)
+ G-sensor very handy and fun
- Almost no 3G reception, that's why I switch back to my old Polaris
- Hard plastic material, the cruise is made of soft rubber, it's not so slippery.
Wanna buy my Diamond ? 2 days old
here we go again...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420347
telstra rom feels fine to me, pretty fast compared to my winmobile 5 eten m600+.
I'm just using the built in rom till I get a feel for the phone and apps.
+/- 2 camera's - haven't tried video phone yet. 3.2mpixel camera is crap.
+ VGA - beatifull, but can have tiny text...
+ touch flo, quite cool, but a bit slow
+ Very light weight.
- the back is shiney smooth, and feels like it's going to slip out of my hand, so I believe a rubberized backing is needed.
- Battery life is pretty poor for a phone, but then i am doing 3g data, wifi, gps etc
Ok people are also saying that the TOUCH PRO if faster/better than the DIAMOND... but from what i can see, the specs are identical except the TOUCH PRO has a keyboard and more ROM/RAM but the DIAMOND has DDR, or do they all have DDR?
I'm not quite sure, is this a major difference?
SPECS:
DIAMOND
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
Memory ROM: 256 MB
RAM: 192 MB DDR SDRAM
Internal storage: 4 GB
TOUCH PRO
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
Memory ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 288MB
best bet is go down to your nearest Telstra shop and check it out properly hold it, feel it, use it. then read & read & read all thew threads on the phone and not just here, check You Tube for some videos.
bottom line if you want a touch phone,thats thin, fast ( with a cooked ROM), has GPS, WiFi & many other features then this is it.
For whats its worth IMHO it IS the sexiest phone on the market
it's a big investment, so do the research. it will be worth it!
Dont know if you guys seen/heard of this device as yet, but here are some specs.
My friend jus bought the Omnia and he's tryin to convince me to get one too. While im tryin to prove to him that he made a wrong choice.
Omnia Specs;
56.9x112x12.5mm, 122g, Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional , 32bit Marvell PXA320, 128MiB RAM, 16000MiB ROM, 3.2" 400x240 color transflective TFT display, video out, Proprietary audio jack, GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900/UMTS2100, CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, microSD/microSDHC/TransFlash/SDIO, Proprietary port, Bluetooth, WLAN, GPS, A-GPS, Geotagging, FM radio, accelerometer, 4.9MP camera, AF, flash, secondary camera, 1440mAh removable battery
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1328
It depends on your requirements. Omnia and X1 play in different device classes because the X1 has a slide out keyboard and the Omnia don't. Normally a slide out keyboard has some disadvantages when it comes to device size and weight so people who buy a device with a slide out keyboard usually really want and need it.
Because of this I think these devices do not really match for competition.
Compare the Omnia with the Touch Diamond or the brand new Touch HD.
Compare the X1 with the Touch Pro. (I'd choose the X1 )
Why do you think that your mate made the wrong choice?
P.S.: I've never heard "St Kitts and Nevis" before so I looked it up. This might be one of the smallest countries I've ever seen.
hmm i think you should open this thread again once Touch HD hits the market in the next 2 month
The Omnia is an awesome device, best in the market (today as the X1 hasn't reached UK retail yet). But it does have one (and only 1) Killer Problem.
Wifi
It's wifi performance is terrable and thats why mine is going back.
foo said:
It depends on your requirements. Omnia and X1 play in different device classes because the X1 has a slide out keyboard and the Omnia don't. Normally a slide out keyboard has some disadvantages when it comes to device size and weight so people who buy a device with a slide out keyboard usually really want and need it.
Because of this I think these devices do not really match for competition.
Compare the Omnia with the Touch Diamond or the brand new Touch HD.
Compare the X1 with the Touch Pro. (I'd choose the X1 )
Why do you think that your mate made the wrong choice?
P.S.: I've never heard "St Kitts and Nevis" before so I looked it up. This might be one of the smallest countries I've ever seen.
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Yeh, i know, thats where i was born. I grew up on another small island next to it...St Eustatius. But now livin in the Netherlands.
If Keyboard is critical then look for Xperia or Touch Pro
If Keyboard is optional then compare
If display is critical.
Xperia 800x480 100000 pixels per sq inch, 311 dpi very sharp even small fonts are readable.(web pages)
Omnia 400x240 20000 pixels per sq inch, 146 dpi larger screen not as sharp small fonts har to read. (web pages)
Omnia accelerometer, 5 mp camera,
Xperia standard 3.5 audio jack
Omnia 240 x 400
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Omnia 240 x 400
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Thanks,
The choice
My friend,today i change the xperya,i have omnia,i tested xperia is not ok....omnia is great phone....same tests on this phone is okokok.....its still working,xperia is nice for design,soryy for my inglesi....
I've been offered a Diamond 2 for pretty cheap and I was wondering what the guys thought about updating?
is it really worth the expense for a removable card and a little bigger screen...or is there more to it?
Is this all there is?
what do you think?
Thanks
mike
The Diamond 2 offers two main advantages:
1. style. It has a bigger screen, and looks better. This is ofcourse depending on your own taste
2. Software. The Diamond 2 has, in my opinion, a much better touchflo interface.
Ofcourse 1 can only be achieved by buying the device. But 2 can also be achieved by a custom ROM. I personally use Gen.Y's D2 ROM. It basically just the diamond rom with the diamond 2 interface installed: very nice. If you want to update read this for a guide. Also wait a few days, Gen.Y will release R5.1 on january 5.
He also makes roms based on the new HTC HD2 Sense interface: Gen.Y's D2X ROM. I've tried it: its definitly a nice interface upgrade but it's kind of laggy on the diamond and uses more RAM. If you want it you should buy a real HD2: it's hardware is very good and reviews say it's super-fast (it has a 1Ghz CPU as opposed to the +-500Mhz of the Diamond, Diamond2 etc.).
To round up: I wouldn't do it, just install a custom rom for the new interface and save the money for a real upgrade, like the HD2.
Thanks for the thoughts, i originally got the TD cos of it's size to power ratio, i recn that the HD/2 is pushing the size thing for me.
I can put the TD in an aluminium belt case and it's not really in the way. the HD may be thou....I need to do more homework first
I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive (diamond1 screen is full of scratches).
Yes, the diamond2 is bigger, but the bigger screen really has advantages (surfing, calender use, input etc..) and i must admit too that TF3D works alot smoother outta the box with diamond2.
Tx to this site i managed to upgrade my diamond1 to a higher standard so it still suits my needs, but i keep bumping in to memory problems (RAM and storage) every now and then, where the diamond2 has no problems at all.
Diamond2 runs even smoother with the newer cooked ROMS (even the ones with all the Leo stuff in it).
I would definitaly choose the diamond2 above the diamond1, but plz don't tell my hubby
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I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive
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The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
I prefer Diamond II than Diamond I which has
+ Better battery
+ Expansion card slot
+ Bigger screen
+ Reservered ( I haven't got it yet )
I'll take Diamond II when I have chance.
hmmm.....can i justify the expense it's in really good nic and my beloved 3700 is looking a bit worse for wear ...
I love my Diamond but it has it's disadvantages like a shortage of RAM, although the Diamond II does have more RAM it wouldn't make sense for me personally to upgrade to a Diamond II (both have basically the same hardware). I'm due for an upgrade next week and thought that it would be best to upgrade to the Touch HD2 but since it's not available in my country yet I opted to go for the Touch Pro 2 since it has some nice features that the Diamond II does not have... and offcourse a nice big slide out keyboard! The fact that the Diamond II has a 5mp camera and the Touch Pro 2 only a 3.2mp one doesn't matter much to me as well since I barely use it in any case.
It's difficult to add more to what has already been said for the advantages of the Diamond 2 over the Diamond 1.
Recap:
• way better camera
• way better screen
• way better memory (Ram & Rom)
• better battery consumption
• better construction build
• despite the CPU's are identical in specs. Diamond 2 CPU is been rated faster then original diamond
Bonus:
• if you have a great price it's a no brainier as the original Diamond can only compete if lighter weight and smaller size was a priority.
If it had a 3.5mm Jack, heck I think I would trade in my HD for it....
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The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
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You're right, i didn't know the processor was the same (only different last digit in specs and rated just a tinytiny bit faster), and i'm comparing them running both on WM6.5 with Sense 2.5, that's not fair towards the good ol' diamond1
I've been thinking about what to upgrade to myself actually. I'm not really willing to pay for a phone offline- so have to restrict myself to the upgrade options available on T-Mobile UK.
The obvious choice would be the HD2 but just thinking it is just that too big, especially going from a Diamond (?)
I dont see the Vario V (HTC Rhodium/TP2) on T-Mobile UK site, anyone if they still do it?
I agree with others that the Diamond2 probably wouldnt be worth it. Saying that, if the price you are getting it at is really cheap then it could be an option; you could always sell off your Diamond. But I'm definitely not about to 'waste' my upgrade on the Diamond2
With the latest ROMs around at the moment, the Diamond barely manages to cope (WM 6.5.x with Sense 2.5 for example).
dtechnology is correct
its just down to personal choice to be fair
Well I'm thinking to get a windows phone8 so will it be okay buying it?? (the nokia lumia 730)
Or should I go with any other android??
TEll me plz!!!!!!
Details of Nokia Lumia 730
You have a nice choice with Lumia 730, it runs on Windows 8.1 OS and 1.2GHz quad-core processor. It is handy with 4.7 inch OLED capacity touchscreen display, Corning Gorilla Glass 3 for protecting the screen and the clear black display. It has 8 GB internal memory with expandable microSD card up to 128 GB and 1 GB RAM. It offers 6.7 MP rear camera with LED flash and 5 MP front camera to capture the beautiful pictures. The battery capacity is also good 2200 mAh for long time talking. The connectivity options are Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. The current price is approx Rs 13,000.
Do you have any requirements? What is important to you in a phone?
For instance, Lumias usually feature great recording hardware (cameras, microphone). You'll get quite better images with a Lumia 830 than e.g. with an iPhone 6, which is way more expensive. Also, they're quite robust IMO: Lumias usually take more hits and drop until they have their display or case broken, compared to most other brands.
Furthermore, WP is easy to use, still works great on mid- and low-end hardware and just looks good.
One argument against WP is the bad support by certain companies: If you know an app on Android you definitely need, check whether it exists for WP too, or if there's an alternative.