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hsdpa setting

hy, sory for my bad english
i try too disable hsdpa with fit4cat registree tweaker,on my trinity, and dosen't work. HTweakc 2.0 dont work on my trinity.(A native exception occured)
any other solution?

adodesign said:
hy, sory for my bad english
i try too disable hsdpa with fit4cat registree tweaker,on my trinity, and dosen't work. HTweakc 2.0 dont work on my trinity.(A native exception occured)
any other solution?
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Hmmm, it worked on mine. HTweakC did give an error message when I first started the program because my phone is a Trinity and not a Hermes. I just ignored that message. Then after turning off the HSDPA, I exited the program and did a soft reset by pressing the power button for 3 seconds, this way you make sure the change gets saved.

Excuse my ignorance: why would you want to turn HSPDA *off*? To save battery power?

Izzard-UK said:
Excuse my ignorance: why would you want to turn HSPDA *off*? To save battery power?
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noap
When i am conected to internet (hspda) i cannot receive any call.
i use skype so................

Izzard-UK said:
Excuse my ignorance: why would you want to turn HSPDA *off*? To save battery power?
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When HSDPA is on, you can't receive a phone call, it goes to voicemail. There is no problem receiving a call in 3G or GSM Edge mode. I don't know if it is a problem with current systems or if that is the way it was intended to work, but I don't want to miss calls because my phone is receiving an email.

Matterhorn said:
When HSDPA is on, you can't receive a phone call, it goes to voicemail. There is no problem receiving a call in 3G or GSM Edge mode. I don't know if it is a problem with current systems or if that is the way it was intended to work, but I don't want to miss calls because my phone is receiving an email.
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Huh? Is that a local thing?
Here in The Netherlands it is no problem at all. When I'm connected to UMTS or HSDPA (on the Vodafone network) I can be connected simulatinously.
So, I receive pushmail when I am on the phone or when I'm surfing I can be called at the same time.

adodesign and Matterhorn: that must be something to do with your provider. I am on T-mobile in the UK and I have no such issue. In fact I just tested it about 10 times in my house where there is a good HSPDA signal. I started downloading a large file at about 850 kbps and phoned myself - my Hermes dropped from "H" to "3G" and the call came through no problem. Once I hung up, it stepped back up to "H" and the download was not interrupted.

ok... i'm in the US using Cingular and i know they have HSDPA enabled in some markets. i have a HTC P3600 and would like to know how i can tell if HSDPA is enabled. if HSDPA enabled by default how would i know? if i have to manually enable it, what are the steps to activate it? thanks for the advice/guidance...

cortezzi said:
ok... i'm in the US using Cingular and i know they have HSDPA enabled in some markets. i have a HTC P3600 and would like to know how i can tell if HSDPA is enabled. if HSDPA enabled by default how would i know? if i have to manually enable it, what are the steps to activate it? thanks for the advice/guidance...
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Well I guess it must be something to do with certain providers. I'm not the only one that has reported the busy problem with HSDPA. I'm going to test it again when I go into France to see if it happens there.

3G framework designed to able receive call while data transmitting. Whenever there is incoming calls, it will automatically disconnect data tranmission. However, this feature needs to be fully support by your local carrier.
In 2G network, you will not be able to answer call while data tranmitting. But you will still be able to answer call if GPRS is connected, with no data tranmisting. This is by 2G design, nothing to do with the carrier.
Hope this helps
*Con

Its a network issue.
I remeber reading on 3's Website here that it was an issue and a software Update on their network here in aust in April will fix it.
Speak to your provider and see if they are planning a network update soon.

tdub said:
Its a network issue.
I remeber reading on 3's Website here that it was an issue and a software Update on their network here in aust in April will fix it.
Speak to your provider and see if they are planning a network update soon.
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Thanks for that news, I'll give them a call today . I think that it is likely that I'm not even supposed to be receiving HSDPA on this network. Before this phone was released it was reserved for one of those PC card wirless solutions for laptops, which they charge a fortune to use. The roms that come on the Swisscom Trinity has HSDPA disabled. They'll probably tell me that I'm not supposed to use it .

just few words to say that on the SFR network (france) , when i am connected in HSDPA , i can't receive any calls ... they are rediricted to my voicemail

extenue said:
just few words to say that on the SFR network (france) , when i am connected in HSDPA , i can't receive any calls ... they are rediricted to my voicemail
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Thanks for that info. I won't bother to check on SFR now. I'll just leave HSDPA switched off for the time being. 3G is good enough for now. This is an app that will turn off HSDPA http://www.fit4cat.de/thread.php?threadid=263 .
There is an application made for the Hermes that I am successfully using on my Trinity that switches 3G on and off. It also will switch off your data at night to save battery life. It creates an icon at the bottom of the screen for quick network change when you want a fast connection. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35394&d=1173876750 .

just few words to say that on the SFR network (france) , when i am connected in HSDPA , i can't receive any calls ... they are rediricted to my voicemail
EDIT : i've just call my provider ,this behaviour is normal , an upgrade from them is necessary to make calls during hsdpa connection , thanx to tdub !

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Well I guess it must be something to do with certain providers. I'm not the only one that has reported the busy problem with HSDPA. I'm going to test it again when I go into France to see if it happens there.
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I have the problem, with HSDPA, on Sfr network, i've got a 3G plan, for access to wap! is impossible, but In Web all is allright, with very Hi speed i ever see on mobile

Is it really HSDPA?
I recently flashed my Orange UK Trinity (SPV M700):
WM6.1.Black Edition by Akeo
Radio Radio 1.50.08.11
For the first time I noted that HSDPA was available and then shortly after that I was missing a lot of call's. 3 out of 5 seem calls to go straight to answer phone. My concern is that this seems to happen mainly with calls from mobiles on the same network (Orange UK) and yet rarely (if at all) with calls from land lines. Is this perhaps a red herring?.
After reading this thread I'm hoping that HSDPA is the cause of the issue and that someone can explain how to disable HSDPA on the Trinity device?
I tried HTweakC 2.1b but no luck. HSDPA remained active.

HOWTO allow UMTS, HSDPA - Disable GPRS connection

Hallo friends, I'm a newbye here.
I've got a little big problem and I'm asking you to help me.
In Italy H3G, my mobile operator, sells one internet flat in UMTS and HSDPA mode. This is because H3G hasn't got GSM antennas and the roaming connection costs 2€/MB (3$).
Can I disable the gprs allowing the 3G and 3,5G only? I'm becoming crazy
Thanks to you all,
Dario

Phone, Menu, Options, Band, WCDMA/UMTS only.

unwired4 said:
Phone, Menu, Options, Band, WCDMA/UMTS only.
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Thanks unwired4 but I need to recieve the GSM calls (they are free of charge).
I need only to block GPRS internet traffic. Any other suggestion?
Bye,
Dario,

modaco nodata.
my device is 2g only, but i'm pretty sure it has seperate connections for gprs/UMTS/HSDPA and whatnot

fzzyrn said:
modaco nodata.
my device is 2g only, but i'm pretty sure it has seperate connections for gprs/UMTS/HSDPA and whatnot
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seems it doesn't have separated connections... :-(

I have the same problem
up! Really interesting! I have the same problem!

You cant block diff data based on GSM or WCDMA or (2.5G or 3G). I can see at the moment only option is to make it UMTS.

Thats a shame... been looking for a solution to this problem also. Due to the structure of the data packs on my carrier, blocking roaming data and allowing the rest would be the perfect application for many users to avoid excessive usage charges.

flux76 said:
Thats a shame... been looking for a solution to this problem also. Due to the structure of the data packs on my carrier, blocking roaming data and allowing the rest would be the perfect application for many users to avoid excessive usage charges.
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I am in support for this project and willing to donate if someone will take up the task

ravsingh said:
I am in support for this project and willing to donate if someone will take up the task
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I too.
I have also started using visual studio 2008. Any suggestion for create one ad-hoc application will be appreciated.

Hi all,
I'm another Italian H3G user and got the same issue!
I'm ready to donate together with others if anyone will pop out with a working solution for that project!!!

So what you guys are asking for as no-data when only when on GSM.
Since data is automatically part of the standard (as much as asking your hands to feel cold and not heat), it could be "interesting" to try to keep flipping it on off.
Closest behavior would be if you're on 3G voice call and it locks out data only when it flips to GSM.

I am guessing here, but something worth looking at for an example may be like the TF3D Weather. In Settings, it has an option to tick "Download Weather when roaming". As far as I know, if you don't tick this, it won't download when you are roaming, only when your on your home network.
So a similar feature for all data. In other words, don't download when on Roaming. At other times, ok to download.

flux76 said:
I am guessing here, but something worth looking at for an example may be like the TF3D Weather. In Settings, it has an option to tick "Download Weather when roaming". As far as I know, if you don't tick this, it won't download when you are roaming, only when your on your home network.
So a similar feature for all data. In other words, don't download when on Roaming. At other times, ok to download.
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That's right.

flux76 said:
I am guessing here, but something worth looking at for an example may be like the TF3D Weather. In Settings, it has an option to tick "Download Weather when roaming". As far as I know, if you don't tick this, it won't download when you are roaming, only when your on your home network.
So a similar feature for all data. In other words, don't download when on Roaming. At other times, ok to download.
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Great, Flux, you've got the exact point here!

BTW: I found an application -which does in effects many, many other useful things- but it can explain what we're looking for: phoneAlarm
It seems it can stop data connection depending on many parameters.
For our pourpose, it would be enough if data connection gets disabled when not connected to the home network!

UP!.......

lol i'm italian too and i have the same problem

andrea89g said:
lol i'm italian too and i have the same problem
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phoneAlarm doesn't go. It doesn't block EDGE (2,5G gprs) traffic. :-(

ziotegolina said:
phoneAlarm doesn't go. It doesn't block EDGE (2,5G gprs) traffic. :-(
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That's very strange!
If you lookk at the phoneAlarm product page (link) where the new v2.0 [build 278] features are described and search for the 7th element in the features list, you can read:
- Data completely disabled per profile (for roaming etc.)
This should mean that, when roaming, no data connection is made available and this is exactly what we need! (not paying for data roaming when H3G has no service and the phone swithes to TIM).
I thoutgh it worked...

o2 - NO 3G???

guys,
i just transferred from orange to o2. i have no 3g now?? i used networ wizrad and got the settings from o2 but still no joy
i have HK official wwe rom and there is no 3g option in comm manager either
can anyone help?

did you try running connections setup? or adding the 3g to comm manager with tf3d config to see if it is on?

yes i ran connections setup and o2 sent me the config.
i cant fiund the wsay to add 3g to comm manager in td3 flo adv??

yes 3g is enabled, just doesnt work or never active even in good signal areas, nothing! i either have H or E next to my reception

patterns said:
yes 3g is enabled, just doesnt work or never active even in good signal areas, nothing! i either have H or E next to my reception
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H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/

I've been curious about this too. O2 doesn't have a 3G license, which is why they used the Jap technology i-mode (which as we know flopped). So where is the iPhone's 3G coming from? I think it's from '3', but I'm not 100%. So if you're not in a '3' coverage area I would guess this is why you don't reception on this band.

adamdon89 said:
H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
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LOL (H) = HSPDA
HSPDA=7.5Mbps Approx making it a shed load faster than 3G
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is a 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, which allows networks based on Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.4 Mbit/s. Further speed increases are available with HSPA+, which provides speeds of up to 42 Mbit/s downlink.
robbed form wiki as im lazy!

adamdon89 said:
H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
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im sorry, i LOL'd when i read that.

I didn't even notice the H in his post LOL. Strange how he either gets GPRS or HSDPA though, and never any 3G.

yes this is strange - well at least it explains it. i put my 3 sim in and i get 3g straight away, oh well i can connect to internet anyhow so.... all is good
thanks for help guys

What is HSDPA & AGPS?

I recently installed the eOS 4.888.FiRe ROM on my Tilt and it has been working nicely. I noticed some additional settings that weren't available to me when I was using the stock HTC ROM. What is "HSDPA" and "AGPS"? And will it cost me to leave these turned on? I notice when I turn on HSDPA, I see a an "H" icon at the top rather than the usual "3G" icon.

nathanofseattle said:
I recently installed the eOS 4.888.FiRe ROM on my Tilt and it has been working nicely. I noticed some additional settings that weren't available to me when I was using the stock HTC ROM. What is "HSDPA" and "AGPS"? And will it cost me to leave these turned on? I notice when I turn on HSDPA, I see a an "H" icon at the top rather than the usual "3G" icon.
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what is google???
anyways simple answer:
hsdpa is a form of data connection which is faster than 3g.
agps stands for assisted gps. it is same as normal gps except that agps uses a server to cut down on the time to requires to get ur location using gps.
both won't cost u anything extra but ur carrier does need to support them for u to be able to use.

Thank you. I just wanted to know if they both won't cost me anything extra. You never know these days with Cellphone companies. I turned on both HSDPA and AGPS. So far my calls have been going through just fine and my navigation software continues to function normally.
How do I know if my carrier (AT&T) supports HSDPA and AGPS? I hate having to call customer service to ask so I'd rather ask here.

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Thank you. I just wanted to know if they both won't cost me anything extra. You never know these days with Cellphone companies. I turned on both HSDPA and AGPS. So far my calls have been going through just fine and my navigation software continues to function normally.
How do I know if my carrier (AT&T) supports HSDPA and AGPS? I hate having to call customer service to ask so I'd rather ask here.
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I used KaiserTweak to set my phone to HSDPA. I am an AT&T user. It's worked fine. No additional charges. I don't use AGPS so I can't respond to that part of your question.

theo44001 said:
I used KaiserTweak to set my phone to HSDPA. I am an AT&T user. It's worked fine. No additional charges. I don't use AGPS so I can't respond to that part of your question.
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Thanks for your response. I just use it for voice calls anyway. Do you see any improvements? Or is it specifically if you subscribe to a data plan? And do you also see an "H" icon at the top rather than a "3G" icon?

nathanofseattle said:
Thanks for your response. I just use it for voice calls anyway. Do you see any improvements? Or is it specifically if you subscribe to a data plan? And do you also see an "H" icon at the top rather than a "3G" icon?
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HSDPA has to do with you data connection, so unless you have a data plan you really won’t see the benefit.

thesire said:
what is google???
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Google
n. company that was founded in 1998 at Stanford University by Larry Page and Sergey Brin and serves as a search engine on the Internet
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google
v. (Computers) search for data on the Web using the search mechanism Google; search on the Internet for particulars relating to new or likely to be girlfriend or boyfriend

HSDPA doesn't cost anything to activate, but if you are on a restrictive tariff it is a lot easier to run up over usage charges.
In the UK you need to usually be paying at least £30 a month to have the unlimited mobile broadband and e-mail. I would personally check your contract before you let the HSDPA run loose.
Rob

As mentioned multiple times, neither HSDPA or AGPS will cost you anything. You will know if you are in an area that has HSDPA because of the H icon. If it goes back to 3G then ATT does not have HSDPA in that area. If it goes to E then you are back on Edge. As also was mentioned, neither of these have any impact on your phone calls. HDSPA = Data and AGPS = using the cell towers or the internet to help you lock on your GPS location quicker.
And yes, if you had used google to search for this you would have probably got a better explanation in a less amount of time.

Inabuilty for Simultaneous Voice and Data

Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.

donniesd said:
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
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It is.........

hah2110 said:
It is.........
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Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!

donniesd said:
Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
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What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.

hah2110 said:
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
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I am in 3G.
I have no problems when putting my sim in my tp2. And talking while surfing.
And i am not the only one. No one has givein a reason as to why.

Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.

It should work. I do it all the time, but it is network dependent.
In case it works on your TP2 i suggest you check your settings.

Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs

JCopernicus said:
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
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Incorrect. "WCDMA only" is still UMTS/HSPA (3G/3.5G in consumer speak), therefore you still get voice/data at once. I can only conclude that you're under the assumption that UMTS/GSM work the same way EVDO/CDMA does. On an EVDO network, all data goes through the EVDO network, while voice stays on 1xCDMA, because EVDO is an addon to 1xCDMA.
UMTS and GSM are two completely incompatible technologies that only share GSM backend features and a SIM card. The circuits in the phone are separate, the antennas on the towers are separate. You're either completely on UMTS for voice and data (inc. both at the same time) or you're completely on GSM (for voice or data but not both at once. In fact, if you're locked on to a strong UMTS signal, the parts of your phone that handle GSM shut down for power conservation and only wake up when your signal drops to check to see if you'll get a superior signal over GSM. It will do this periodically, but won't stay active for long unless your UMTS is so bad that you won't be able to hold a call. THEN your phone powers up and maintains the GSM radio, while putting the UMTS radio on standby, only powering it up momentarily to look for a better signal.
The only time you have GSM and WCDMA/UMTS powered on at the same time is during hand-offs from one network to the other. That's why staying in areas where you bounce between the two kills your battery so quickly, the radio is drawing roughly twice as much juice as it normally does, plus it's computing which one will do the better job for the moment. Even then, at that time, the phone and its OS will be using only one of the networks at a time, and if it's UMTS, you'll be able to hold a call and surf the web.

rx7freak said:
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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TMO on TMO.
Attached are my settings.
I have this on every rom or radio i try.

Hey, sort of same thing just happened to me
in my case using GSM Auto (prl) or WCDMA prefered I can connect to HSDPA but GSM is in emergency calls only, weird.
but I can do both on GSM only (GPRS/EDGE)

Re-flashed to official release of 2.1 same thing.

i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?

RogerPodacter said:
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
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I am connected to 3G network. Call comes in. I can not browse on the internet. While i am on the call i go check settings and i have droped to GPRS. As soon as i hang up i go back to 3G (HSDPA)

Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.

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Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
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It is.
I have no problem on my TP2.

I use it often too but today I was unable to it. Hopefully its because my area is being updated to hsdpa+

i think i have the same problem. 3G drops during voice call, doesn't connect during the call. reconnects after the call ends.
stock nexus one tmobile FRG83D

When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.

Jack_R1 said:
When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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Yeah, that is normal and it really sucks when you're on a long call. Once you lose 3G signal it's gone for good. I don't know if it's a network problem, or the phone, but it should be fixed.