Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
donniesd said:
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
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It is.........
hah2110 said:
It is.........
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Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
donniesd said:
Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
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What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
hah2110 said:
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
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I am in 3G.
I have no problems when putting my sim in my tp2. And talking while surfing.
And i am not the only one. No one has givein a reason as to why.
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
It should work. I do it all the time, but it is network dependent.
In case it works on your TP2 i suggest you check your settings.
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
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Incorrect. "WCDMA only" is still UMTS/HSPA (3G/3.5G in consumer speak), therefore you still get voice/data at once. I can only conclude that you're under the assumption that UMTS/GSM work the same way EVDO/CDMA does. On an EVDO network, all data goes through the EVDO network, while voice stays on 1xCDMA, because EVDO is an addon to 1xCDMA.
UMTS and GSM are two completely incompatible technologies that only share GSM backend features and a SIM card. The circuits in the phone are separate, the antennas on the towers are separate. You're either completely on UMTS for voice and data (inc. both at the same time) or you're completely on GSM (for voice or data but not both at once. In fact, if you're locked on to a strong UMTS signal, the parts of your phone that handle GSM shut down for power conservation and only wake up when your signal drops to check to see if you'll get a superior signal over GSM. It will do this periodically, but won't stay active for long unless your UMTS is so bad that you won't be able to hold a call. THEN your phone powers up and maintains the GSM radio, while putting the UMTS radio on standby, only powering it up momentarily to look for a better signal.
The only time you have GSM and WCDMA/UMTS powered on at the same time is during hand-offs from one network to the other. That's why staying in areas where you bounce between the two kills your battery so quickly, the radio is drawing roughly twice as much juice as it normally does, plus it's computing which one will do the better job for the moment. Even then, at that time, the phone and its OS will be using only one of the networks at a time, and if it's UMTS, you'll be able to hold a call and surf the web.
rx7freak said:
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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TMO on TMO.
Attached are my settings.
I have this on every rom or radio i try.
Hey, sort of same thing just happened to me
in my case using GSM Auto (prl) or WCDMA prefered I can connect to HSDPA but GSM is in emergency calls only, weird.
but I can do both on GSM only (GPRS/EDGE)
Re-flashed to official release of 2.1 same thing.
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
RogerPodacter said:
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
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I am connected to 3G network. Call comes in. I can not browse on the internet. While i am on the call i go check settings and i have droped to GPRS. As soon as i hang up i go back to 3G (HSDPA)
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
RogerPodacter said:
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
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It is.
I have no problem on my TP2.
I use it often too but today I was unable to it. Hopefully its because my area is being updated to hsdpa+
i think i have the same problem. 3G drops during voice call, doesn't connect during the call. reconnects after the call ends.
stock nexus one tmobile FRG83D
When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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Yeah, that is normal and it really sucks when you're on a long call. Once you lose 3G signal it's gone for good. I don't know if it's a network problem, or the phone, but it should be fixed.
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Hello I seem to have a problem and I am hoping someone can help. My phone is rooted running Modaco r20 Desire Rom. Radio is ERE27. I have a strong 3G signal in my town with T-mobile. My problem is that for some reason whenever I use data (internet,online gaming, searching using apps etc) the icon will stay on 3G then switch over to H. Sometimes it will stay on 3G and it will not allow any data. I know about the EDGE to 3G issues. I don't seen to have that issue. Can anyone help and or know why this happens?
Usually, when browsing the internet or anything is being downloaded at all - the 3G icon will switch to H. Really only in custom ROMs though, I don't really believe this happens in the stock ROM.. it's not a bad thing or a problem, at least not for me.
Data doesn't completely shut off for me though.
The "H" means you are achieving an HSDPA connnection of sorts. Stock does not have this icon in it, since HSDPA is a form of 3G and they didn't want people getting confused by it switching from 3G icon to H icon.
HSDPA is faster than basic UMTS, aka "3G"... so it is not a bad thing at all.
No idea why you loose your data connection all together when it switches, since it isn't doing anything other than recognizing you have a faster data connection than basic 3G, nothing is actually changing to cause you to lose your connection since it is still the same connection.
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The "H" means you are achieving an HSDPA connnection of sorts. Stock does not have this icon in it, since HSDPA is a form of 3G and they didn't want people getting confused by it switching from 3G icon to H icon.
HSDPA is faster than basic UMTS, aka "3G"... so it is not a bad thing at all.
No idea why you loose your data connection all together when it switches, since it isn't doing anything other than recognizing you have a faster data connection than basic 3G, nothing is actually changing to cause you to lose your connection since it is still the same connection.
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no it is not...
mine does the same thing... i have to twiddle my thumbs and wait when it switches between UMTS and HSDPA... they are different frequencies just like EDGE is on a different frequency...
I don't think UMTS and HSPA are on different frequencies, the same two frequencies are used (alternating for downlink/uplink) for both, those are 1700mhz and 2100mhz.
For some reason I don't have this problem on Long Island, but when I'm in the city this happens the whole time. Might be something to do with the way the network is configured. Basically whenever data is in use, it just says 3G, but as soon as I browse to a site or actually use data, it switches to H within a second or so. I think a stock ROM would technically be doing the same thing, but it just won't show the actual switch, as it doesn't differentiate between HSPA and UMTS in the top 'taskbar.' Although it would probably show this in the phone status screen under settings.
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Sometimes it will stay on 3G and it will not allow any data.
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The "3G" to "H" (and back) is a "red herring". If it's "stuck" on 3G when you're trying to do data, it means your handset is having issues communicating in the AWS bands for 3G (2100/1700) and the handset hasn't dropped back to GSM/GPRS/EDGE (1900) yet or is attempting to switch frequencies and the associated towers aren't cooperating with the hand-off or the hand-off is failing.
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Kermee
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I don't think UMTS and HSPA are on different frequencies, the same two frequencies are used (alternating for downlink/uplink) for both, those are 1700mhz and 2100mhz.
For some reason I don't have this problem on Long Island, but when I'm in the city this happens the whole time. Might be something to do with the way the network is configured. Basically whenever data is in use, it just says 3G, but as soon as I browse to a site or actually use data, it switches to H within a second or so. I think a stock ROM would technically be doing the same thing, but it just won't show the actual switch, as it doesn't differentiate between HSPA and UMTS in the top 'taskbar.' Although it would probably show this in the phone status screen under settings.
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I'm in times square. My phone has never switch to UMTS. Either HSPA or EDGE.
also while it's idle it will only use 3G
it will switch to H to transfer data, then revert to 3G
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The "3G" to "H" (and back) is a "red herring". If it's "stuck" on 3G when you're trying to do data, it means your handset is having issues communicating in the AWS bands for 3G (2100/1700) and the handset hasn't dropped back to GSM/GPRS/EDGE (1900) yet or is attempting to switch frequencies and the associated towers aren't cooperating with the hand-off or the hand-off is failing.
Cheers,
Kermee
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Ok now that makes sense. Anything I can do to help with the hand-off?
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Ok now that makes sense. Anything I can do to help with the hand-off?
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Not that I've found. I have this problem BAD here in Phoenix. I never even bothered with WiFi until I got a Nexus, now I can't live without it. I found that sometimes kicking the phone in and out of Airplane Mode sometimes alleviates it being "stuck".
luna9698 said:
Ok now that makes sense. Anything I can do to help with the hand-off?
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Try setting the US BAND only in phone info.
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Try setting the US BAND only in phone info.
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Hmm I cant seem to find your suggestion? Can you be a little more specific? I am using Modaco rom if that makes any difference.
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Hmm I cant seem to find your suggestion? Can you be a little more specific? I am using Modaco rom if that makes any difference.
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Which Modaco ROM? If it is Desire, you have to flash the newest radio, and do it after flashing the ROM itself, otherwise you will have major Radio issues... at least that is my, and a fair number of other's, experience.
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Which Modaco ROM? If it is Desire, you have to flash the newest radio, and do it after flashing the ROM itself, otherwise you will have major Radio issues... at least that is my, and a fair number of other's, experience.
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Yeah its Desire rom. I have radio ERE27 right now
Try upgrading to the newest one, 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2:
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...-online-kitchen-optional-root-insecure-himem/
Make sure you have at least 50% battery before flashing, just download and flash via recovery just like a ROM, do not panic, ever, during the process and do a battery pull, just wait for it to flash, then ask you to reboot, reboot, it will then do the actual radio flashing (you will see a box with arrow screen for a couple minutes) it will reboot on its own into recovery, say "writting" cache with a progress bar for a few seconds. The bar will go away, but the "writting cache" text will not, don't worry it is done, just reboot and then double check it flashed by going to about phone, software, and checking baseband version.
Just remember, can't stress this enough, do not pull your battery at all during this process. And make sure you have at least 50% battery before starting. Flashing a radio is the only way you can brick an N1 right now, and only if you pull the battery during the process, or have a bad download. Speaking of which, I do recommend checking the MD5 sum to make sure it is a good clean download.
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Hmm I cant seem to find your suggestion? Can you be a little more specific? I am using Modaco rom if that makes any difference.
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*#*#4636#*#* in the dialer but I don't see US Only.
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Hmm I cant seem to find your suggestion? Can you be a little more specific? I am using Modaco rom if that makes any difference.
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*#*#4636#*#* in the dialer. Hit menu button from there.
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Hello I seem to have a problem and I am hoping someone can help. My phone is rooted running Modaco r20 Desire Rom. Radio is ERE27. I have a strong 3G signal in my town with T-mobile. My problem is that for some reason whenever I use data (internet,online gaming, searching using apps etc) the icon will stay on 3G then switch over to H. Sometimes it will stay on 3G and it will not allow any data. I know about the EDGE to 3G issues. I don't seen to have that issue. Can anyone help and or know why this happens?
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Same thing happens with me. I'm in Phoenix myself with T-Mobile and running Cyan 5.0.5.3 with EPE54B and baseband v 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2.
I'll have full bars for 3G and when I goto check the market or anything internet related, the 3G will switch to H and work or stay at 3G and pause with connection error, retry or cancel.
I started having this issue after updating my factory stock radio. Anybody know which one is the stock/default radio IMG is? I'm thinking of downgrading and seeing what happens.
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Try setting the US BAND only in phone info.
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I did this and it worked great! more consistent and quicker data access doesnt take forever to swith to H like before!
scuzzy19 said:
I did this and it worked great! more consistent and quicker data access doesnt take forever to swith to H like before!
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I still can't find the way to set it up using US bands only. Any suggestions?
I have been looking all over about this. I have the Thunderbolt but not happy with the HTC poor quality phone, and random reboots once in a blue.
So I am thinking in getting the Bionic.
Thanks.
You totally can talk and surf at the same time, I did it today and was surprised to see it worked very well.
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I have been looking all over about this. I have the Thunderbolt but not happy with the HTC poor quality phone, and random reboots once in a blue.
So I am thinking in getting the Bionic.
Thanks.
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*Only* on 4G. 3G simultaneous voice/data is not supported.
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*Only* on 4G. 3G simultaneous voice/data is not supported.
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Really? That's interesting... my Thunderbolt does voice & data on LTE or EVDO. From what I was told by my Verizon Business Data Specialist, it's actually not a limitation of the Verizon Network, it has to do with the antenna in the phone (which is strange, you would think they would have enabled it long ago on 3G).
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Really? That's interesting... my Thunderbolt does voice & data on LTE or EVDO. From what I was told by my Verizon Business Data Specialist, it's actually not a limitation of the Verizon Network, it has to do with the antenna in the phone (which is strange, you would think they would have enabled it long ago on 3G).
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I believe the thunderbolt has a separate "2g" radio and antenna that it can make voice calls on while using the 3g or 4g for data.
I'm not sure if the bionic is the same.
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I believe the thunderbolt has a separate "2g" radio and antenna that it can make voice calls on while using the 3g or 4g for data.
I'm not sure if the bionic is the same.
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This is true. The Thunderbolt doesn't actually do simultaneous 3G voice/data, it has voice over 1X on a different antenna, then data over 3G.
It is *most definitely* a limitation of the network, running EVDO Rev. A which doesn't support it. Rev. B does, but VZ decided to skip it and go straight to LTE.
Cool. Thanks everyone. This definitely makes me want to get it.
Share what your on tbolt, internet works when surfing and talking
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Share what your on tbolt, internet works when surfing and talking
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I think what you are asking "What data services work while you are talking on your Thunderbolt?" If so, everything that I have noticed... Email, Browser surfing, and SMS messaging. Not sure about Hotspot Tethering, but would have to assume it does.
To qualify my previous statement regarding simultaneous Voice and Data, I didn't mean to say that both Voice & Data were 3G and worked at the same time... What I meant to say was that while my Thunderbolt showed a 3G EvDo connection, I could talk and surf. If the voice is going over a 1X network, I wouldn't know because the voice quality was just as good as always. It is safe to say that voice doesn't require 3G EvDo connectivity to function well.
Furthermore, if they made separate antennas in the Tbolt that made this possible, then both Berzerker7 and I were correct... though there is a limitation on VZW 3G EvDo's network, if the phone manufacturer's had just made separate antennas, then there are a lot of phones that could have done Simultaneous Voice & Data.
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I just tested this myself and I am able to talk and surf at the same time with no problems but I was on 4g don't know what will happen when I am on 3g. Something else that I noticed what I think it is, is that voice is going over cdma and data is going over gsm. If you go to your dialpad and type this in *#*#4636#*#* and then go to phone information, you will see at the bottom it says gsm/cdma network auto. Here is where I found the code along with some other interesting info askvg.com/google-android-hidden-secret-codes Does anyone else have any info on this. Biggest question why isn't VZW advertising that you can talk and surf at the same time now...
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I just tested this myself and I am able to talk and surf at the same time with no problems but I was on 4g don't know what will happen when I am on 3g. Something else that I noticed what I think it is, is that voice is going over cdma and data is going over gsm. If you go to your dialpad and type this in *#*#4636#*#* and then go to phone information, you will see at the bottom it says gsm/cdma network auto. Here is where I found the code along with some other interesting info askvg.com/google-android-hidden-secret-codes Does anyone else have any info on this. Biggest question why isn't VZW advertising that you can talk and surf at the same time now...
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Does not work in 3G areas unfortunately... since my home is still 'out there'
Mark
If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
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If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
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If you're on wifi you can talk and surf, you've always been able to. That's not new.
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If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
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All android phones I have used allow simultaneous voice/data with a Wi-Fi connection.
The reason the Thunderbolt is the only LTE VZW phone that can do it, Qualcomm and HTC jumped through hoops to with the FCC to get them to allow the Thunderbolt. It has a total of 4 antennas and they do not exceed the legal limit imposed by the FCC. (This is probably an attribute, although not certain, of why the battery life sucks.) Therefore you can talk and surf on 3G and 4G. This antenna combo is not on any of the other LTE phones offered by VZW (They all are not HTCs the other ones), but i'm sure the next HTC 4G phone that comes out will be able to do it on 3G and 4G if it has the multiple antenna setup from Qualcomm.
One of the sources I've read, I can't find the one that I really liked though:
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...erbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone
Has anyone out thought of a switch for root users on 4g phones to disable 3g so you don't have 2 wireless radios for 3g and 4g running at the same time? If so, can someone name the app, or tell me where I can find the info on it?
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I think if you disable the 3g radio you would have no voice or text. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you're right. 4g is only for data.
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I'm not sure this is correct. On the Thunderbolt, you can switch it to LTE only, and it remains able to make calls and send/receive texts. Although perhaps that doesn't disable the 3G radio.
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Only reason this even came to my attention is because I had heard rumors about the Sprint users being able to disable their 3g radio and still receive texts and voicemails... So, I figured I would ask about it. I mean with dumbphones that weren't 3g how did those receive those functions without a 3g radio?
voice/text messages are on 1x while internet is on 3g/4g
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Only reason this even came to my attention is because I had heard rumors about the Sprint users being able to disable their 3g radio and still receive texts and voicemails... So, I figured I would ask about it. I mean with dumbphones that weren't 3g how did those receive those functions without a 3g radio?
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Issue I see, is sometimes I'll lose 4g around here (GR area too), and if 3g was off, I wouldn't have data at all.
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voice/text messages are on 1x while internet is on 3g/4g
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Than why when I'm on 3g, in a non 4g zone, when I go to make a call, the phone disables 3g?
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@sheatyj - I would have use for this though because I travel the country for work... Most places I go are all 4g (or at least Verizon claims them to be) so if I can disable my 3g radio, I can make my phone last a little longer... Also It will help with me having issues with my phone jumping back into 3g when I just had 3 bars of 4g.
heard of a toggle on thunderbolt a widget
How about switch to turn off all but wifi?
A nice feature of my Blackberry was the ability to turn OFF the telephone and leave the WIFI turned ON. This was great for non-coverage areas and when I traveled internationally. Can this be done on the Bionic? tnx
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A nice feature of my Blackberry was the ability to turn OFF the telephone and leave the WIFI turned ON. This was great for non-coverage areas and when I traveled internationally. Can this be done on the Bionic? tnx
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Just enable Airplane Mode. That will turn everything off.
Once everything is off, just re-enable WiFi and/or Bluetooth if you want to use just that.
HI everyone --- just picked up my phone tonight from tmobile. however, the data drops every time i'm on a call. no 2g, 3g, or 4g indicator after about 10 seconds of initiating a call.
just trying to figure out if i have a bad phone or if others are also noticing this issue.
any feedback is much appreciated. I may switch to At&t and get the optimus g pro if this is "feature" of the HTC one
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HI everyone --- just picked up my phone tonight from tmobile. however, the data drops every time i'm on a call. no 2g, 3g, or 4g indicator after about 10 seconds of initiating a call.
just trying to figure out if i have a bad phone or if others are also noticing this issue.
any feedback is much appreciated. I may switch to At&t and get the optimus g pro if this is "feature" of the HTC one
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If you're on EDGE it can only do one at a time not both.
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If you're on EDGE it can only do one at a time not both.
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Correct. Not on 2G yes on 4G.
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If you're on EDGE it can only do one at a time not both.
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I hear ya....but it's happening from 4g to zero; 3g to zero....the data connection (regardless if it's locked onto 4g or not), just drops after a few seconds of being on the call.....
what does everyone have their data settings set to? under mobile data > network mode.....
mine was originally set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto....
I changed it to GSM/WCDMA AUTO since tmobile doesnt' have LTE where I live to save battery......
but the problem persists with all settings, even when I select teh LTE....
any thoguhts?
mine was originally set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto....
I changed it to GSM/WCDMA AUTO since tmobile doesnt' have LTE where I live to save battery......
but the problem persists with all settings, even when I select teh LTE....
any thoguhts?
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Dial *#*#4636#*#* select phone info and see if it's set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE there as well.
I had that problem. Mine was set to CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto from factory. I did the above and set it to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto and it fixed it for me.
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I had that problem. Mine was set to CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto from factory. I did the above and set it to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto and it fixed it for me.
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where exactly is this setting? i entered *#*#4636#*#* and clicked on the three little dots in teh upper right hand corner....then i selected "select radio band".
A window popped up with "automatic" or "usa band". I selected "automatic".....but i don't see anywhere to select between GSM / LTE, etc. within this phone settings hidden menu..
help!
****Edit:***** never mind i found it however, mine was set by default to WCDMA......should I change it?
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where exactly is this setting? i entered *#*#4636#*#* and clicked on the three little dots in teh upper right hand corner....then i selected "select radio band".
A window popped up with "automatic" or "usa band". I selected "automatic".....but i don't see anywhere to select between GSM / LTE, etc. within this phone settings hidden menu..
help!
****Edit:***** never mind i found it however, mine was set by default to WCDMA......should I change it?
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yes should be set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto or if you don't have LTE in your are just GSM/WCDMA auto.
Tidbits said:
yes should be set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto or if you don't have LTE in your are just GSM/WCDMA auto.
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got it....THANK YOU TO EVERYONE for their replies....changed it now...but still -105dBm to -93dBm at best......
what's funny is that my work provided tmobile blackberry sitting right next to my HTC one has awesome signal right now.....i don't get it.....although the blackberry is a 3g blackberry at best with no 4g capability.
also, i have noticed that if i switch the ONE to GSM only, the signal jumps to -71dbm.....!!! so apparently the "4g" sucks here in northern cincinnati....
4G have low coverage in all countrys, only usa have widely 4G.
If you got 4G that means you got better internet speed not stronger signal.
Signal depends on internal antena which dosent care if signal is 2g,3g,4g.
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After dialing *#4636#*#* my HTC One on T-Mobile is set to WCDMA preferred as we do not have LTE coverage yet.
Voice and Data works superfluously under "4G" HSPA+ 21. I tested both while making incoming and outgoing calls.
I was told to change it to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto when they put LTE live in my area.
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After dialing *#4636#*#* my HTC One on T-Mobile is set to WCDMA preferred as we do not have LTE coverage yet.
Voice and Data works superfluously under "4G" HSPA+ 21. I tested both while making incoming and outgoing calls.
I was told to change it to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto when they put LTE live in my area.
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Hi there erg208, I've tried all of those settings and still no success. Only for a very short time (data will stay on anywhere from 3 seconds into the call to no more than 10 mins into the call....last night was a record with 30 mins into the call) but the moment I begin to do to much surfing or send one too many emails or Gtalk for too long it's like my phone just gives up and the data disconnects and at no point during my phn call will it ever reconnect. I have to hang up my call and INSTANTLY the data turns on with all 5 bars and an H signal. AND most times I have to restart the phn before I can get simultaneous voice and data again. Do u have this issue? May I please ask if you've done an extensive test with your simultaneous voice and data? Meaning have u actually been on a long enough call and seriously surfed the web, sent & received multiple emails, chatted on Gtalk and sent an MMS all during one call and it stay connected? That would be a real test b/c mine doesn't. And if your data does disconnect do u have to hang up the call for it to come back on?? And does it work again if you make another phone call without having to restart your phone? No matter what, having to do either of those things is unacceptable b/c I have NEVER had to with any of my previous HTC devices on Tmobile's network. And I'm a flight attendant so I'm all over this country receiving 3G, 4G and LTE signals and it does it no matter where I am, if I'm moving in a car or sitting perfectly still in the same area with good coverage. Pls let me know your full experience in testing this. I really appreciate your help! Thanks
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biswasd said:
got it....THANK YOU TO EVERYONE for their replies....changed it now...but still -105dBm to -93dBm at best......
what's funny is that my work provided tmobile blackberry sitting right next to my HTC one has awesome signal right now.....i don't get it.....although the blackberry is a 3g blackberry at best with no 4g capability.
also, i have noticed that if i switch the ONE to GSM only, the signal jumps to -71dbm.....!!! so apparently the "4g" sucks here in northern cincinnati....
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Hi there biswasd, I've tried all of those settings and still no success. Only for a very short time (data will stay on anywhere from 3 seconds into the call to no more than 10 mins into the call....last night was a record with 30 mins into the call) but the moment I begin to do to much surfing or send one too many emails or Gtalk for too long it's like my phone just gives up and the data disconnects and at no point during my phn call will it ever reconnect. I have to hang up my call and INSTANTLY the data turns on with all 5 bars and an H signal. AND most times I have to restart the phn before I can get simultaneous voice and data again. Do u have this issue? May I please ask if you've done an extensive test with your simultaneous voice and data? Meaning have u actually been on a long enough call and seriously surfed the web, sent & received multiple emails, chatted on Gtalk and sent an MMS all during one call and it stay connected? That would be a real test b/c mine doesn't. And if your data does disconnect do u have to hang up the call for it to come back on?? And does it work again if you make another phone call without having to restart your phone? No matter what, having to do either of those things is unacceptable b/c I have NEVER had to with any of my previous HTC devices on Tmobile's network. And I'm a flight attendant so I'm all over this country receiving 3G, 4G and LTE signals and it does it no matter where I am, if I'm moving in a car or sitting perfectly still in the same area with good coverage. Pls let me know your full experience in testing this. I really appreciate your help! Thanks
electrash said:
4G have low coverage in all countrys, only usa have widely 4G.
If you got 4G that means you got better internet speed not stronger signal.
Signal depends on internal antena which dosent care if signal is 2g,3g,4g.
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That is not true. We have decent LTE coverage here in UAE (inside the cities at least) and great 3G coverage even on highways.
I did have a similar issue that while on 4G data would drop if i receive a call but that's because 4G LTE does not support voice and my call gets "demoted" to GSM which does not support data+voice simultaneously.
Anyone else with a Nexus 6 on Verizon using a network extender? It works fine for voice. However, I cannot get a data connection through the extender. I assume its an APN issue. All other Verizon phones are getting data fine through the extender.
Ideas?
Thanks!
I don't think mine is connecting at all to the extender at work. There is no icon change.
It works for voice. I get the beeping before a call. But it is not utilizing the extender for data. Its killing me because I'm in a fringe area for coverage and its killing my battery.
I'm running cm12 and whenever I connect to a network extender I loose LTE after I connect back to the network directly. I have to backup, flash stock ROM, let the phone activate then restore my twrp backup. Major PITA...
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but has anyone found any resolutions to this issue?
I'm right at the edge of 3 towers, without my extender, I can barely text... Don't get me started on MMS... I will often miss calls also.
According to the Network Signal Info app, I'm always connected to the extender, but I get very weak signal. I rarely get 3G, if I do, it's even more rare for me to get data despite it showing 3G.
Usually it's 1x that eventually connects where I get data.
Sure, I can use WiFi, but text and especially MMS are issues. Who knows if I'm missing calls also...
Hopefully the Verizon firmware/radio files will work better when Verizon eventually releases it?
Try setting your phone to 3g instead of lte. Should jump on the extender for data. On mine it won't switch automatically.
goinflyn said:
Try setting your phone to 3g instead of lte. Should jump on the extender for data. On mine it won't switch automatically.
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I did try that a few times, I haven't went too in depth with that. But if I recall correctly, changing that setting just left a "!" in the signal bars, no data. How's your signal strength on the extender?
It's half way up the triangle. Orange on the signal strength under battery. But it works.
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Try setting your phone to 3g instead of lte. Should jump on the extender for data. On mine it won't switch automatically.
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That doesn't work for me. 3G is HSPA on the N6, not EvDo like the extender requires. My workaround is connecting at home via wifi, then switching data to 1X. That solves calling, data, and SMS/MMS issues.
From what I've read in other posts regarding Verizon extenders, they are only for basic text and calls, NOT Data. Call Verizon support to confirm if you want a definite answer though.
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Not true. It does data fine at both 1x and EvDo 3g. As I said, problem is, the N6 doesn't appear to work with 3g EvDo data.
greekstile said:
Not true. It does data fine at both 1x and EvDo 3g. As I said, problem is, the N6 doesn't appear to work with 3g EvDo data.
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Correct. I've had my extender since 2011. Without data, MMS as well as certain other Verizon features would not function.
EV-DO working now!
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Not true. It does data fine at both 1x and EvDo 3g. As I said, problem is, the N6 doesn't appear to work with 3g EvDo data.
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I just flashed the Android 5.1 radio on my 5.0.2 ROM running Chroma.
I can confirm that EV-DO Rev. A works now on the Verizon Network Extender.
When I have the network mode set to Global or LTE it keeps falling off 3G. I've set the network mode to 3G and it has stuck for a solid 30 minutes now.
Hopefully the stock 5.1 ROM will fix the 3G issue in LTE or Global modes, so it doesn't try to connect to the weak outside signals. But at least we get EV-DO now instead of just 1x!
kvnhmmd said:
I just flashed the Android 5.1 radio on my 5.0.2 ROM running Chroma.
I can confirm that EV-DO Rev. A works now on the Verizon Network Extender.
When I have the network mode set to Global or LTE it keeps falling off 3G. I've set the network mode to 3G and it has stuck for a solid 30 minutes now.
Hopefully the stock 5.1 ROM will fix the 3G issue in LTE or Global modes, so it doesn't try to connect to the weak outside signals. But at least we get EV-DO now instead of just 1x!
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So are you on a VZW device?
My device says call cannot be completed when I #48 from my Google N6
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So are you on a VZW device?
My device says call cannot be completed when I #48 from my Google N6
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Bought my N6 from Motorola around February.
Dialing #48 tells me I'm under network extender coverage.
kvnhmmd said:
Bought my N6 from Motorola around February.
Dialing #48 tells me I'm under network extender coverage.
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hmm, thanks, no 3G option in my preferred network types on the stock rom.
I wonder if the network extenders actually validate the IMEI and that's why its not working. It worked on my old XT926.
I also have been fighting with this since getting my Nexus 6 last week...they say dial *48 and it will tell you if you are under extender coverage...which I am, yet a tier 4 tech tries to call me and it goes direct to vm.
I have changed units...still same....frustrated as heck.
I'm confused. If you have a network extender, you have Wi-Fi within the same range as the network extender. Why would you want to use 3G for data instead of Wi-Fi? Even the slowest Wi-Fi would be better than 3G data.
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I'm confused. If you have a network extender, you have Wi-Fi within the same range as the network extender. Why would you want to use 3G for data instead of Wi-Fi? Even the slowest Wi-Fi would be better than 3G data.
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In my case it's a restricted work wifi
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