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I cant use AT&T internet on certian apps?

It use to work before I had Shaps Rom on mine, now resco apps wont work and on occasion Windows Live Messenger wont work. . . Some other apps are Skype, zsIRC, Coreplayer(Yes I have the 1.1.3 one), some others but you get the idea. What could be the problem? I have the right MEdia Net and AT&T ISP settings.

Anyone? What could the problem be?

It would probably help if you posted your set up, i.e. rom/radio/os versions...

Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?

~~Tito~~ said:
Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?
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oh? i thought schaps had more than one rom released.
with my current setup i haven't had any problems or complaints with edge or 3g.
so, how's your rom coming along?

Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?

the band switching problem is my favorite. you are lucky to only get that now. try turning off your band setting from auto to either gsm or 3g, that worked for me. you could always change your radio and see if that helps.
oh, and your apps not working, ..... hard reset yet?
i'm generally all over town during the day, but i live near the uni.
although i don't know how much help i'd actually be.

Tried that and I don't want to start all over after 6 flashes(During the time I flashed to the shaps rom out of the time I've had it). Well, it works now. It could have been my area. UNLV? I am by the community college.

~~Tito~~ said:
Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?
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Normal operation of HSDPA is this: In a 3G area the 3G icon will show. While data is being transferred the H icon will show. Once the data transfer is complete it will go back to the 3G icon. I think part of what you are describing is normal oeration.
-Jay

Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).

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Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).
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You should not be on H all the time, even when no data is being transferred. My phone got stuck like that once. A soft reset fixed it.
-Jay

Well not connected, all the time it just says [H], is there something wrong with that? I thought that was 3G? When ever the [3G] symbol comes on the carrier display area not the connectivity area says AT&T 3G and when its normal it just says AT&T.

3G Connection Issues on CM 4.2.7.1

I am having a very strange issue:
Whenever I am at home, and my G1 is connected via 3G, I cannot use data or make/recieve calls. If I enable the "Use only 2g networks" checkbox, it reconnects via EDGE and works perfectly. I currently have a service request out with TMO which should resolve in the next 24-48 hours, but I was wondering if anyone had heard of this issue.
TMo has no idea why I'm not getting signal, the problem continued even when I reverted to stock "Cupcake".
Things I've tried:
Reverted to stock firmware and unrooted phone (Didn't work; same symptoms)
Call T-Mobile, they removed and re-added me to network. (Didn't work; same symptoms)
Swapped SIM card at T-Mobile store (Didn't work; same symptoms)
T-Mobile service request in my area (Results pending)
Things I am going to try, but haven't yet:
- Return to stock firmware, reinstall CM 4.2.7.1
- Try an older CM like 4.2.4 or 4.2.5
- Connect to WiFi for data connection, see if this replicates the problem as with 3G
- Enable data roaming.
The fact that it only happens at home leads me to believe it's not a problem with the phone, however I'm more than willing to do more to rule it out.
Phone Specs
T-Mobile G1
Firmware Version 1.6
Baseband Version 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
Kernel Version 2.6.29.6-cm42 [email protected]
Mod Version CyanogenMod 4.2.7.1
Build Number DRC83

Dont tell T-Mo that your rooted thats a big mistake right there, that can be used against you if you ever have to get the phone replaced.Play around with the apn settings and make sure "always on 2G" isnt checked in settings. Maybe your house isnt in the small 3G coverage area, or your phone cant connect to it. Why would you think data and talking at the same time would be possible? Its either you answer or you stop browsing the web.

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Dont tell T-Mo that your rooted thats a big mistake right there, that can be used against you if you ever have to get the phone replaced.Play around with the apn settings and make sure "always on 2G" isnt checked in settings.
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Yes, thank you, I know not to tell them that, they have zero idea. I also forgot to mention they did swap out my SIM card at the store.
Read what I posted. Turning on "Always On 2G" is the ONLY WAY I can make calls and use data at home. When that isn't on, the phone says it has a 3g connection with four bars, but will not dial out, take calls, or connect to web pages. I've also verified my APN as epc.tmobile.com which is correct, and this affects my voice and data communications.

deviant749 said:
Yes, thank you, I know not to tell them that, they have zero idea. I also forgot to mention they did swap out my SIM card at the store.
Read what I posted. Turning on "Always On 2G" is the ONLY WAY I can make calls and use data at home. When that isn't on, the phone says it has a 3g connection with four bars, but will not dial out, take calls, or connect to web pages. I've also verified my APN as epc.tmobile.com which is correct, and this affects my voice and data communications.
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Try another rom to confirm you cant get 3G, it could also be HW failure.But just try a older cyanogen or something else.Ive cant get a 3G signal with cyanogen roms for long but with a hero rom i seem to get 3G(maybe its my imagination)

Ace42 said:
Try another rom to confirm you cant get 3G, it could also be HW failure.But just try a older cyanogen or something else.Ive cant get a 3G signal with cyanogen roms for long but with a hero rom i seem to get 3G(maybe its my imagination)
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It fails on both stock (untouched, unrooted), and CM. I'll try an older CM just in case though.

deviant749 said:
It fails on both stock (untouched, unrooted), and CM. I'll try an older CM just in case though.
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Ok post results when you finish.

Ace42 said:
Ok post results when you finish.
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Rebooted phone between each of these tests:
3G With WiFi enabled: Same result, can't dial out.
Data roaming enabled, Wifi Disabled: No signal at all, 0 bars with "X" symbol.
Stock firmware: 3G won't dial out, forcing 2G works.
Downgraded to CM 4.2.4: Same symptoms.

Ace42 said:
Dont tell T-Mo that your rooted thats a big mistake right there, that can be used against you if you ever have to get the phone replaced.Play around with the apn settings and make sure "always on 2G" isnt checked in settings. Maybe your house isnt in the small 3G coverage area, or your phone cant connect to it. Why would you think data and talking at the same time would be possible? Its either you answer or you stop browsing the web.
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What ! if you have 3G coverage you can talk and access data at the same time.
That is what 3G provides.

rdfry said:
What ! if you have 3G coverage you can talk and access data at the same time.
That is what 3G provides.
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I only get edge sorry, i know when i had Evdo(sprint) i could do both things.Just stay with edge then, youll save a lot of battery life.

Ace42 said:
I only get edge sorry, i know when i had Evdo(sprint) i could do both things.Just stay with edge then, youll save a lot of battery life.
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That's not what I'm trying to do! When I am at home, on a 3G connection, I cannot do ANYTHING. That includes text, voice, data, web, ANYTHING. If i force it to use Edge, all services work properly. This is not acceptable. T-Mobile's coverage map lists me as in a strong 3G area. It SHOULD work.

I dont know what to say, except stay on edge, you alreadt sent a req to tmo.

I am having the exact same problem. Would love to learn what you found out.

Phone signal question

Anyone experience no phone signal after flashing a ROM to your Pure? I got the device two days ago and immediately went to flash it using one of Duttys roms and also from Tess (IV). With both attempts I get no signal bars whatsoever. That being said I get an "H" where the "3G" used to be. I know that some of you have talked about the HSDPA but even though I have been doing this awhile I am stumped as to why I would get no signal bars. As long as HSDPA doesnt result in more charges from my provider I could care less about that. Hope that makes sense and I hope that someone has some information for me!
Thanks!

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Anyone experience no phone signal after flashing a ROM to your Pure? I got the device two days ago and immediately went to flash it using one of Duttys roms and also from Tess (IV). With both attempts I get no signal bars whatsoever. That being said I get an "H" where the "3G" used to be. I know that some of you have talked about the HSDPA but even though I have been doing this awhile I am stumped as to why I would get no signal bars. As long as HSDPA doesnt result in more charges from my provider I could care less about that. Hope that makes sense and I hope that someone has some information for me!
Thanks!
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Hi, yes, I have seen the situation on some ROMs where I get 'no bars', but the phone seems to be operational anyway. My suspicion is that it's a problem with the root software from Microsoft, not the ROM chef, since it goes across ROMs.
3G vs. H has no bearing on the problem. The H just shows that the phone is connecting via the higher-speed data linkup. Some providers charge more for H, others don't. You'd have to check with yours.

Thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to figure out if AT&T charges extra for the "H" connection speeds?
Also, are there any roms out there that have figured out a way to slightly increase the size of the virtual keyboard for easier typing? Both roms I have used so far have kept the keyboard the same and not sure if there is actually a way to increase the size. Lastly, I am reading up on roms trying to find one that I would like but one piece of information eludes me. Does the rom I am researching support landscape mode in Start and all other aspects? Right now I get landscape in web browsing, email and that is about it. I may be missing something here but thought I would ask for clarification.
A note about the Tess IV rom is that I really loved it. It was super smooth and very fast unlike the shipped rom from AT&T.
I found the original rom to be bulky and slow in responsiveness when moving between features or applications. I am sure that is why others moved away from it as well.

AT&T does not charge extra if you enable HSDPA. This is my second AT$T WM device and I have enabled "H" on both.

jdwilson said:
AT&T does not charge extra if you enable HSDPA. This is my second AT$T WM device and I have enabled "H" on both.
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How do you enable "H" or force it on?

The type of signal is dependant on whats available in the area you are in. As far as I know you don't force "H" to come on, your phone just accesses the best available signal you allow. If " is it then.....
My att plan is the basic plan with the $30.00 data (unlimited) that is required when you buy it. No charges for "H" access for me.. good god, with the way I use slacker all the time, that would bankrupt me in a week.. lol

jbonham said:
Anyone experience no phone signal after flashing a ROM to your Pure? I got the device two days ago and immediately went to flash it using one of Duttys roms and also from Tess (IV). With both attempts I get no signal bars whatsoever. That being said I get an "H" where the "3G" used to be. I know that some of you have talked about the HSDPA but even though I have been doing this awhile I am stumped as to why I would get no signal bars. As long as HSDPA doesnt result in more charges from my provider I could care less about that. Hope that makes sense and I hope that someone has some information for me!
Thanks!
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I'm using the ENERGY Leo ROM, and notice the same.
Thing is that while H is showing I get no bars and no phone connection. Then the phone automatically switches over to 3G and dials out. This can take up to 10 secs - so, can be annoying!
Could this be a locational thing, as I notice this happening in one location only - perhaps where the signal is not strong enough to utilise the H connection.
Or, is it that H is used for data and 3G only for telephone calls?

H is actually HSDPA and is the 3G data connection. 2G equivalent would be EDGE for example. You will only pick it up if A) Your device supports it, B) Your carrier provides it!!, and C) Your are in a stong enough signal area.
You mention that you flashed to a custom ROM but have you flashed your device to an updated Radio ROM? This is the part of the phone that deals with communications including Voice, Data, WiFi etc. Using a good one makes a world of difference.
Check this thread out for all Versions.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276
Flashing a Radio is the same procedure that you would use for a custom ROM. Of course, many of you may already know all of the above but some people may not!

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H is actually HSDPA and is the 3G data connection. 2G equivalent would be EDGE for example. You will only pick it up if A) Your device supports it, B) Your carrier provides it!!, and C) Your are in a stong enough signal area.
You mention that you flashed to a custom ROM but have you flashed your device to an updated Radio ROM? This is the part of the phone that deals with communications including Voice, Data, WiFi etc. Using a good one makes a world of difference.
Check this thread out for all Versions.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276
Flashing a Radio is the same procedure that you would use for a custom ROM. Of course, many of you may already know all of the above but some people may not!
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No, I thought the updated custom ROM would also update the radio.
What is your reccomendation for the radio?
How do I find out radio version I've got?
I dont have any specific useage beyond taking calls, and updating Twitter, weather etc.
What version do you think is best?

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No, I thought the updated custom ROM would also update the radio.
What is your reccomendation for the radio?
How do I find out radio version I've got?
I dont have any specific useage beyond taking calls, and updating Twitter, weather etc.
What version do you think is best?
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Some ROMs do include the radio, such as Dutty's HG 9 & 10 ROMs.
The radio version is usually included in the name of the ROM.
For best radio, it depends on your carrier and location.
To find your current version, soft reset, it is listed at the bottom next to "R" upon booting.

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H is actually HSDPA and is the 3G data connection. 2G equivalent would be EDGE for example. You will only pick it up if A) Your device supports it, B) Your carrier provides it!!, and C) Your are in a stong enough signal area.
You mention that you flashed to a custom ROM but have you flashed your device to an updated Radio ROM? This is the part of the phone that deals with communications including Voice, Data, WiFi etc. Using a good one makes a world of difference.
Check this thread out for all Versions.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276
Flashing a Radio is the same procedure that you would use for a custom ROM. Of course, many of you may already know all of the above but some people may not!
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I checked my radio ROM - it was .17.
Just updated the radio to .91 - immediate improvment in access to 3G cellphone signal.
Of course, I need to use it for a couple of days to get an accurate feel for improvement.
BTW. I'm based in the UK.

I've had varying success using different versions but .57 has always been head & shoulders above the rest for me.
As always your mileage may vary

Inabuilty for Simultaneous Voice and Data

Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.

donniesd said:
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
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It is.........

hah2110 said:
It is.........
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Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!

donniesd said:
Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
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What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.

hah2110 said:
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
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I am in 3G.
I have no problems when putting my sim in my tp2. And talking while surfing.
And i am not the only one. No one has givein a reason as to why.

Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.

It should work. I do it all the time, but it is network dependent.
In case it works on your TP2 i suggest you check your settings.

Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs

JCopernicus said:
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
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Incorrect. "WCDMA only" is still UMTS/HSPA (3G/3.5G in consumer speak), therefore you still get voice/data at once. I can only conclude that you're under the assumption that UMTS/GSM work the same way EVDO/CDMA does. On an EVDO network, all data goes through the EVDO network, while voice stays on 1xCDMA, because EVDO is an addon to 1xCDMA.
UMTS and GSM are two completely incompatible technologies that only share GSM backend features and a SIM card. The circuits in the phone are separate, the antennas on the towers are separate. You're either completely on UMTS for voice and data (inc. both at the same time) or you're completely on GSM (for voice or data but not both at once. In fact, if you're locked on to a strong UMTS signal, the parts of your phone that handle GSM shut down for power conservation and only wake up when your signal drops to check to see if you'll get a superior signal over GSM. It will do this periodically, but won't stay active for long unless your UMTS is so bad that you won't be able to hold a call. THEN your phone powers up and maintains the GSM radio, while putting the UMTS radio on standby, only powering it up momentarily to look for a better signal.
The only time you have GSM and WCDMA/UMTS powered on at the same time is during hand-offs from one network to the other. That's why staying in areas where you bounce between the two kills your battery so quickly, the radio is drawing roughly twice as much juice as it normally does, plus it's computing which one will do the better job for the moment. Even then, at that time, the phone and its OS will be using only one of the networks at a time, and if it's UMTS, you'll be able to hold a call and surf the web.

rx7freak said:
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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TMO on TMO.
Attached are my settings.
I have this on every rom or radio i try.

Hey, sort of same thing just happened to me
in my case using GSM Auto (prl) or WCDMA prefered I can connect to HSDPA but GSM is in emergency calls only, weird.
but I can do both on GSM only (GPRS/EDGE)

Re-flashed to official release of 2.1 same thing.

i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?

RogerPodacter said:
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
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I am connected to 3G network. Call comes in. I can not browse on the internet. While i am on the call i go check settings and i have droped to GPRS. As soon as i hang up i go back to 3G (HSDPA)

Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.

RogerPodacter said:
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
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It is.
I have no problem on my TP2.

I use it often too but today I was unable to it. Hopefully its because my area is being updated to hsdpa+

i think i have the same problem. 3G drops during voice call, doesn't connect during the call. reconnects after the call ends.
stock nexus one tmobile FRG83D

When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.

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When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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Yeah, that is normal and it really sucks when you're on a long call. Once you lose 3G signal it's gone for good. I don't know if it's a network problem, or the phone, but it should be fixed.

CM7 - No 3G, only HSPA on ROGERS/ATT N1

Installed CM7 on my N1. No 3G. The icon is there, as soon as I use something data-related, kicks over to H.
Just went back into Clockwork recovery, reset all (system wipe, dalvik, cache, etc), rebooted and even in the welcome to android screen, I can see the H.
Tried setting the GSM radio to USA Bands, does not affect it. Played with APN settings (deleted all except internet.com), does not affect it.
Anyone else having this issue?

this is really interesting because on ATT my nexus one stays showing H all the time, whether data is transmitting or not. HOWEVER, i can get it to do what you are seeing when i push a certain lib file to system/lib, then reboot. after that reboot, the icon switches back and forth from 3G to H over and over, as data turns on and off. and its very annoying. but then, when i reboot one more time, it goes back to normal.
the point is, what you are seeing may be normal if that network is set up like that. but really it should stay showing H no matter what.

This happens with Nokia Siemens Networks WCDMA e-nodeBs. Don't worry about it. 'H' is faster than '3G' anyways.

georgemv said:
This happens with Nokia Siemens Networks WCDMA e-nodeBs. Don't worry about it. 'H' is faster than '3G' anyways.
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i can believe that. but how is it that i am able to make this issue disappear with a reboot?
also, to support your claim, i HAVE seen this issue appear in certain locations and cities, then when i drive out of that city, it returns to a constant H. i assume that particular area just had the network configured differently, or with different hardware.

Is there any reason with stock ROM it would only show 3G?

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Is there any reason with stock ROM it would only show 3G?
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Some stock ROMs are designed to only show the 3G icon regardless of whether the device is connected to 3G or HSPA.