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It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
phelixx1 said:
It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
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What applications did you try?
When you start the application does the right side LED blink orange?
Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
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azop said:
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
or get it here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/softw...ssociateid=1224
When you have installed it, run it and it will auto scan the ports to find the GPS receiver. Make note of the port number - that's the one you'll need for your other applications (like tomtom etc). Make sure you have a clear view of the sky when running it and give it PLENTY time to achieve a first time fix.
By the way if you have ever used the "External GPS" on the Kaiser then you may have altered some settings that can stop GPS working. Unfortunately only a hard reset will cure this. BUT, try the above first. If GPS test can get satellites then so will other applications.
This little application GPS Test is also useful to run before things like Google Maps that some folks have problems with.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
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Mike, this is a great program, thanks.
and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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Ok. If GPS test works and finds sats then, you have an incorrect port set on the other applications. From GPS Test see what port it has found the GPS on. Then in tomtom say, use "other nmea device" or "internal GPS" whichever option it has in the "configure" menu and set the port to the one noted from GPS test.
Fact is that if GPS test finds sats then everything is working and its just getting the link between the GPS and the nav software that needs fixing.
Mike
I just had to leave my house and try it on the road. Now it works everywhere. YEAH!!!!!!!!!
THANKS GUYS (mikechannon) !!!!!!!!!!
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
Frontline said:
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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I used to have the same exact problem...Google Maps just gives up if it doesn't find a fix right away. TomTom does finally get a lock without GPS Test, but it takes less time if you have GPS Test running beforehand.
I had the same problem .. GPS would not work with Google, MSN live. Downloaded GPS test and still nothing. I finally did a "hard" reset (painful, but I did have everything backed up on my PC with Active Sync).
After the hard reset GPS worked GREAT! I must have messed up a setting trying to get it to work. GPS test now reports that the GPS is active on COM4, 9600 baud.
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this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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You don't have to run it before every GPS application. Some folks find Google Maps benefits from doing this but I only suggested running the GPS test app to establish which port was being used. Even with Google maps you may find on subsequent occasions you do not need to run an app like GPS Test first.
Mike
accuracy
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
boultz said:
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
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I don't have that problem - even when I have few fixed satellites. However I did read a report recently where someone routinely had the arrow showing 200mtrs away from his position. Sorry to say it was only after a Hard Reset that the problem vanished.
As a side issue. I have noticed with tomtom and any other GPS software -
If you start the GPS software in an area with no or poor GPS signal, then it will take FAR longer to get a fix EVEN when you go into a clear sky area.. If however when you start the GPS software in a good open sky area then it will fix much more quickly.
The moral of this story - don't start the GPS when you are inside a thick walled building - wait until you get outside first. I'mguessing that starting in an area with a very weak signal sends it searching in all the wrong areas for satellites and it will then take a long time to find them even when you get outside. (This is true, I have noticed with all GPS systems I've used not just the Kaiser.
Mike
FYI, I have found that Map4PDA breaks the GPS. I believe it changes the baud rate to 57600, which is incorrect (it should be 9600). The only way to fix it I have found is to Hard reset and not install Map4PDA.
TomTom, Micrsoft Live Search (with Speach), & Google Maps work great. Features set in that order.
PS that GPS test tool works GREAT. Thanks for the heads up.
I purchased my HTC Touch Diamond few days ago and I have the following problems:
Item 1:
After testing several programs (Tomtom7, googlemaps, etc.) internal GPS has never work.
QuickGPS works ok (because in reality only uses the data connection).
The phone was originally with ROM 1.37.456.2, and I also tried with Elite 1.0 ROM. With both ROMs internal still do not work.
Any suggestion?
Item 2:
When I receive a call usually the "Answer" button is pressed in the case involuntarily. Thus the call is answered without knowing it.
Is there any way to minimize this problem?
Of course I appreciate any suggestions.
Ricardo from Uruguay.
Do you have A-GPS (Assisted GPS) enabled with AdvancedConfig ?
If so, disable it.
Very strange...
Can you give us your Radio version ?
Did change something ont the GPS settings ?
Please find the solution at my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408560
GPS doesn't work
I have Agps Disable.
I have already done many Hard Resets.
Now I am using "HTS GPS Tool". In the setting tab aI can see a lot of information coming, but Satellites used is 0.
Of course no other navigation software is working.
Do you recommend any other ROM?
Thanks in advace for any suggestion.
Ricardo.
I have the same problem
I have AGPS disable
The first time, i run my tomtom 6, it works very well, after i reboot my diamond, it doesnt work any more, i wait all the time for the signal GPS
I use the original ROM, but i dont think it is the ROM problem
This is a common problem.
Don't bother messing around with settings it wont work, just do a hard reset and the GPS should come back
PaulusUK said:
This is a common problem.
Don't bother messing around with settings it wont work, just do a hard reset and the GPS should come back
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everybody do that ?
If your programs wont access GPS, and you get no GPS by altering the 'external GPS' to com port 4 (program) and Com 0 or 2 (hardware) and ticking the 'let windows manage GPS' box, then GPS will not appear unless you do a hard reset
PaulusUK said:
This is a common problem.
Don't bother messing around with settings it wont work, just do a hard reset and the GPS should come back
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so, do u mean that, one time i do a soft reset, then a hard reset have to be done for GPS?
My Diamond once lost the ability to get any GPS signal, but this is how I fixed it...
1. Go to "externalGPS" then "Access" tab then Untick the checkbox then hit ok
2. Turn the device off
3. Turn it back on then tick the checkbox then hit ok
It should now find a signal (May take about 2 mins the first time)
I've spent hours reading every thread on here and other forums about GPS not working and changing every com port in gps manager, and nothing worked.
Its just so much quicker to do a hard reset.
Don't waste your time. If you can't get GPS back by changing the com port settings a couple of times, then don't mess with it all night. Do a hard reset and get on with your life
I had similar issues. Seemed to get solved for me by repeatedly selecting and uselecting the "Use GPS" in Google maps. Not sure if it's the same issue but it solved it in my case.
My gps stopped working, too. When I pleaded for help here, Akito gave me this solution:
"The HTC GPS tool is for download at http://rapidshare.com/files/84815853...C_GPS_TOOL.cab and it's discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477 .
In the first screenshot in that thread you can see a drop-down box which says "hot start". What I do is to first click the button "open"... then in the tab "sattelite" my problem gets confirmed (can't see any sattelite then). I go back to the first tab, I click the drop-down box, select "cold start", click Nav. Init. click the button close and immediatly open.... et voila, it works again. Sounds quite complicated, however once you've done it a 1st and 2nd time, it's a piece of cake lol"
It worked immediately. Try it - and you will send the kindest thoughts to Akito, too.
When I used HTC tool, the only port that could be opened was port 3 and 7. After opening either of these, when I pressed INIT, I got the response "Unable to Send NMEA command"
So there was definitely some problem with the GPS being "seen"
Hi everyone
I have spent a lots of hours searching for the answer to bad gps reception on diamond, through different forums.I was about to sell the diamond when I finally came with a solution and that is Hard Reset after each Rom flashing.
For a few days I could not get a gps fix, no matter what I did. I tried Quick gps, Gps tool , Google map, iGo8 and Garmin. Somewhere I read that it could be the Rom I am using. So today I flashed 4 different roms including Dutty's, bepe and panosha but no gps fix. Finally I did a Hard reset and viola, it found the satellites within 10 seconds inside near the window on all the different Gps softwares without any problem.
So here is the procedure:
***After a ROM flash finish the usual soft reset and stuff and then do a HARD RESET. Download the data through Quick Gps and your gps should work properly at its default settings.***
Actually I found that Diamond is faster than TYTNII for getting the Gps fix.
Now if the Cooks can find out what causes this behaviour so we do not have to do a hard reset after every new flash.
Please share the findings.
Cheers!!!
********* Ok I have been flashing all the new roms and Gps was not working even with the hard reset. Finally I flashed CT's Beta lite2 Rom, did a hard reset and viola Gps is working flawlessly for the last three days. This Rom is actually the fastest and very clean among all the other roms I tried ( no offence to all the other great Cooks ). Please try it and share your findings!
Well, now i know why i dun have GPS problems...
i hard-reset after each flash ... just a habit inherited while using artemis...
Hi, nice tip
When you had done a hard reset, is the GPS working fine after several reboot ?
It will be nice if someone on XDA or HTC find a solution
Yes its working fine since then and I have done several soft resets.
Fine here. The only thing that made the GPS not work for me was turning on A-GPS.
Doesn't work for me. I have changed my ROM to bElite 0.93, have done a hard reset, loaded quickgps data and still no fix after half an hour on the window.
Try going outside in the clear. If you get the fix then its the location of your window.
try using HTC GPS Tool, it fixed for me once:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477
install the cab, run it, then choose "Cold Start" let it run for awhile then try using your GPS software again.
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tararura said:
Hi everyone
I have spent a lots of hours searching for the answer to bad gps reception on diamond, through different forums.I was about to sell the diamond when I finally came with a solution and that is Hard Reset after each Rom flashing.
For a few days I could not get a gps fix, no matter what I did. I tried Quick gps, Gps tool , Google map, iGo8 and Garmin. Somewhere I read that it could be the Rom I am using. So today I flashed 4 different roms including Dutty's, bepe and panosha but no gps fix. Finally I did a Hard reset and viola, it found the satellites within 10 seconds inside near the window on all the different Gps softwares without any problem.
So here is the procedure:
***After a ROM flash finish the usual soft reset and stuff and then do a HARD RESET. Download the data through Quick Gps and your gps should work properly at its default settings.***
Actually I found that Diamond is faster than TYTNII for getting the Gps fix.
Now if the Cooks can find out what causes this behaviour so we do not have to do a hard reset after every new flash.
Please share the findings.
Cheers!!!
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HI, ... Hard Reset,- you mean reformatting the internal storage as well? - i've done hard reset but still the gps can't fix location- says in HTC GPS tool - Mode 2: Not Fix
thanks
Mode 2: Not fix...
And the sattelites numbers show just #? Or u can see actual sattelite numbers?
Reason I'm asking is, if you just see #... then ur GPS is scr###d up and the cold start could really help.
If you do see the actual numbers, but no reception bars, then you have to get ourside into the clear sky. Be aware that nowadays windows are protective for keeping the heat of the sun outside. At the same time it keeps GPS for 95% out too.
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Mode 2: Not fix...
And the sattelites numbers show just #? Or u can see actual sattelite numbers?
Reason I'm asking is, if you just see #... then ur GPS is scr###d up and the cold start could really help.
If you do see the actual numbers, but no reception bars, then you have to get ourside into the clear sky. Be aware that nowadays windows are protective for keeping the heat of the sun outside. At the same time it keeps GPS for 95% out too.
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Thanks akito- there's numbers-- as if it's a poor signal... same location in my window with the BT Gps receiver gives me 3D in Mode 2 almost instantly. - i'll keep trying. again thanks
You haven't been playing around with the GPS settings in the configuration of 'external GPS'? The standard settings are: GPS program port COM4 / Hardware port = none with a baud of 4800. Access tab should have GPS set to be managed automatically. Also, you have not enabled AGPS in any way like with a registry key or the advanced config program?
akito said:
You haven't been playing around with the GPS settings in the configuration of 'external GPS'? The standard settings are: GPS program port COM4 / Hardware port = none with a baud of 4800. Access tab should have GPS set to be managed automatically. Also, you have not enabled AGPS in any way like with a registry key or the advanced config program?
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all is in default (Diamond Project Rom) as i just did a hard reset - a gps is disabled via advance config.
akito said:
Mode 2: Not fix...
And the sattelites numbers show just #? Or u can see actual sattelite numbers?
Reason I'm asking is, if you just see #... then ur GPS is scr###d up and the cold start could really help.
If you do see the actual numbers, but no reception bars, then you have to get ourside into the clear sky. Be aware that nowadays windows are protective for keeping the heat of the sun outside. At the same time it keeps GPS for 95% out too.
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hi, nice tip
i have the same problem -> mode 2 : fix not vailble
I can see the satelite numbers, and there is some red in the reception bars (not for all, just 3), but wherever i run my navigation software (tomtom 6), why i cant get the signal GPS???? 20mins waiting, i think it is enough.
I had disabled AGPS
coca8888 said:
hi, nice tip
i have the same problem -> mode 2 : fix not vailble
I can see the satelite numbers, and there is some red in the reception bars (not for all, just 3), but wherever i run my navigation software (tomtom 6), why i cant get the signal GPS???? 20mins waiting, i think it is enough.
I had disabled AGPS
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same probleme
solution for fix not vaible
the gps is broken ?
My problem is not the fix, but rather the lag and lack of precision while navigating...
I have more or less 5 seconds of lag, and the precision is awful...
If I use a BT external receiver connected to Diamond, than I don't have this problem...
It seems that the receiver is refreshing to less, or the communication between the receiver and the GPS software is too slow...
HastaSSSS
derkie said:
all is in default (Diamond Project Rom) as i just did a hard reset - a gps is disabled via advance config.
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I've fixed my gps problem. I just tried to force change the gps port from settings>external gps from port 4 to port 6 and in my tomtom, i choose other receiver then tap port 6,was showing poor signal- i minimized tomtom, opened htc gps tool opened port 4 at 4800 cold start> gives me error message that the port is closed and it will force open nmea but still fail, in this part i tapped nav init.. then closed it- opened port 6 in cold start> showing all sat in #### instead of numbers. then closed it. then go to settings>external gps> then choose port 4, opened tomtom then went to gps configure and now change it to built in gps... i get full 3d 6 green bars indoor. all ok even after a hard reset. Thanks
Yeah...but how to solve the lag and accuracy issues...?...
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Yeah...but how to solve the lag and accuracy issues...?...
HastaSSSS
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So far i dont have accuracy issue. i tried igo8 using bt receiver (SiRF III) compared it to the internal gps- it's just the same , internal gps loads even faster- In TomTom7- if i use bt receiver, some voice instructions is not complete unlike the internal gps which is flawless- maybe it's the rom/radio...
I don't have any problem
"Bonjour" (since I am french !!! )
I tried the GPS with TomTOM V7 = no problem
with garmin XT no pb
First idea
Within the programm window I have a "fast GPS" programme
Do you have this ?
Did you run it ?
Second idea
You should enable Agps in advanced config
On my diamond if I disable it doesn't work anymore
Third idea
Try to see if "GPS utilities" works
Google it it's a basic cab file for showing basic GPS (position, speed, elevation.... )
Let me know
Diamond FrencH Rom 1.37.406.1 FRE
Just a question for tomtom users. Is it possible to disable the gps and make it so it doesn't try to access it?
I know it's possible to just browse the map, but it still gets a lock on. I want to just browse the map without it trying to use the gps to maximise battery life if I can.
Thanks in advance!
Sure, chose the wrong hardware or wrong com port in under the gps settings and the software wont use your gps because it wont know where to find it.
Ah yes, but will it still keep trying to find the gps and thus continue draining the power further?
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Ah yes, but will it still keep trying to find the gps and thus continue draining the power further?
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most of the power is actually drained when GPS is active and not when TT is searching for the hardware.
No it wont try to find the GPS and it will read "No GPS device".
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
rxdrift7 said:
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
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Try another radio! Radio has alot to do with your GPS fix, big time!
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well i'm using pc.ultimate.v10 wwe and the 1.65.14.06 radio. any advice what combination?
rxdrift7 said:
well i'm using pc.ultimate.v10 wwe and the 1.65.14.06 radio. any advice what combination?
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The tricky thing with radios is that they are different for every ROM, location and provider! So realy the only thing to do is try acouple out! Or go to the Ultimate Radio thread and read to see if someone from your area has recomended one or two! Here is the link to the thread! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Where are you located? If you are by me than I can recomend a couple!
location
i'm southern california
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i'm southern california
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Ok, thats far away and much warmer than Minesota! Yea I dont know any for California! There should be some suggestions in hte radio thread though! Sorry, wish I could help you more!
not sure if there's a difference, but on my device, i have set it to com 4 and 9600 and things seem to work fine here in Malaysia and in my travels to Indonesia.
my first GPS lock took some time and doing, and i finally got it working after i ran this "GPS Test" program. Forgot the original thread & poster i found it here, but here's a post with the same. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374349
I had a similar problem. Not being comfortable flashing another radio, I tried a program called Franson GPSGate. It allowed me to use mulitiple programs that utilize the GPS signal at the same time through the same COM port.
I also get fizes in under 15 seconds when I have GPSGate running first. (it primes the GPS signal and keeps it ready for programs that need it). Just another option.
agreed
GPSGate is a great program. Trialware though. I have started tinkering with a program called "AmazeGPS" that will give you turn-by turn directions, and update your route as you travel, unlike google maps. definetly not as handy as google maps for local searches though. best used if you have an address already. The Radio on your phone does affect GPS, as well as all the other connectivity areas (data, phone, bluetooth, and even wifi, i think). if you are looking for something with good connectivity, 1.71.09.01 is an awesome choice. the tradeoff is that it is a bit of a battery hog. i am assuming that you will be using this in a vehicle or something, as gps itself is a battery hog, and if you plan on using it frequently, you probably have it plugged in somewhere. I live in Arizona, by the way. hope this helps!
Try the attached program, if you are able to see the satellite signal...
I live San Diego, using the PC.Ultimate.V16 rom with Tomtom7. I have my GPS configuration with other NMEA GPS, 57600 baud rate, COM4 and I get a connection in 15 seconds.
I think this question was just asked in another thread.... use GPSTest and then when it acquires a signal open up TTN6 or 7 annoying I know but it works for quite a few people
Excellent
Nice the GPStest, now i try to make functionally mi Googlemaps...
Tks
Here is my advice... I get that same problem sometime in my TomTom (I used to use 6.. but now using TomTom 7)... I installed that GPS Toggle that is a start menu item... It is nice.. it says GPS OFF or GPS ON.. When you turn it on, it says "SEEK : XX" XX beign the number of sats it is searching for... Then when it gets a lock it says "LOCK : XX" and also shows how many "bars" you have.... Sometimes I use it to just test out the GPS function w/o loading TomTom... But I have also found if I turn the GPS ON with it before loading TomTom it locks on faster (a lot faster)... I think it sort of jump starts the GPS chip to lock on faster... It is the same software you have to use if you have a HTC Mogul and want to use TomTom (For some reason TomTom doesn't see the GPS chip in that phone w/o this little program or something simmilar)...
I attached the one I use as a cab.. Just copy it over to your storage card... use file explorer and run the cab file... Then after it is installed do a soft reset... You may have to go into the Today screen options in settings and put a check infront of it to see it on the screen... Hope this helps
rxdrift7 said:
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
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