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I've tried everything and I don't want to do a hard reset. Currently it won't let me use my gps, i tried download quick gps and that didnt change anything, I tried changing around the com ports, it just never worked since the start.
gps tool says
Fix not available for gnss dop and active satlaties
GPS fixed data says lattitude and longitude of a bunch of 0's
I see a bunch of red dots when I click on satelites? but it also says mode 2: fix not availible on the bottom of that screen

Try flashing the radio with the same version you use now. It's an effective way of resetting the GPS. Has worked for me before. Actually as late as yesterday

just tried the quadband radio update and it didn't work

adilkhan1214 said:
just tried the quadband radio update and it didn't work
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Send it back for a new one.

Have you installed VOIP , that killed my gps?

I am also having the same problem, If i use the GPS tool or similar it can see 2 or 3 satalites but does not ever get a fix, really annoying!!!
Can anyone confirm for me if i should have assisted gps enabled or disabled (keep reading mixed info so i dont know if this works or not)
Many thanks
Paul

I had problems with the GPS too but now works great.
1) go outside !
2) disable A-GPS features ( Parameters -> Advanced GPS ), you can try to re-enable it later
3) let window Manage GPS ( Parameters -> GPS (third tab) -> check Let windows manage...)
4) launch HTC GPS Tool ( you will find links in the forum, search for this tool)
5) Open the right Port (as configured in Pameters -> GPS (first tab) )
6) Wait !!! ( for me it takes between 1 and 2 minutes to have a fix when outside )

k so i tried that, disabled a-gps, soft-booted device, checked settings in control panel (com 4, non, 4800, windows managed). Loaded gps tool stood outside and have 10 mins i can see the satalites but it is not locking or fixing my position. I also notice that on the satalite view i can see 5 red bars then they disappear for a few seconds then come back again, is this normal

Ok i never saw Red bars
only grey when no fix and blue when get a fix.

adilkhan1214 said:
Programs
google maps
live search
I've tried everything and I don't want to do a hard reset. Currently it won't let me use my gps, i tried download quick gps and that didnt change anything, I tried changing around the com ports, it just never worked since the start.
gps tool says
Fix not available for gnss dop and active satlaties
GPS fixed data says lattitude and longitude of a bunch of 0's
I see a bunch of red dots when I click on satelites? but it also says mode 2: fix not availible on the bottom of that screen
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You have to hard reset your phone, believe me it's works after that. Some peeps had the same problem.

Yep, tried that too,, did hard reset this morning after reading that it works on another thread. Still nothing,
I am using TLR V3 Firmware and the 025 radio.

I am using the same radio as you though with elite 3.0. I haven't managed a fix yet, not with this or dutty's v2 with its included radio.
with the stock rom and 0.9 radio I could get a fix fine.
I had exactly the same problem as this on my kaiser. bloody annoying and not a problem I ever experiencd with my n95. perhaps it is something to do with nokia testing their products properly, who knows.

try this,
Advance your clock so that quickgps gets outdated, update quickgps
put back the clock to the correct time, quickgps will get outdated again, dont update quickgps, try to get a fix, will take sometime cause the GPS is cold booted now
then update quickgps after that

coding said:
I had problems with the GPS too but now works great.
1) go outside !
2) disable A-GPS features ( Parameters -> Advanced GPS ), you can try to re-enable it later
3) let window Manage GPS ( Parameters -> GPS (third tab) -> check Let windows manage...)
4) launch HTC GPS Tool ( you will find links in the forum, search for this tool)
5) Open the right Port (as configured in Pameters -> GPS (first tab) )
6) Wait !!! ( for me it takes between 1 and 2 minutes to have a fix when outside )
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Where is this parameters and advanced gps tab?

Thanks for the advise i tried it but still nothing.
In GPS tool i can see lots of satlites but it will not get a fix and along the bottom of the screen i have about 5 red bars (i guess these are the satalites it is talking to)
this is getting really frustrating as i want to use this device as my sat nav, I will buy tomtom once i know it is working but i dont want to if it is going to be a waste of money
Paul

YAY I Got it Fixed
HI
Thanks again for everyone who has replied to help out with this. I have managed to find a fix.
I found this thread over at expansys
http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=100176
Installed the piece of software discussed in this thread, it looked at the gps and reported that it is acutally running at 9600 baud, the peice of software also picked up a fix in less than 30 seconds,
So i loaded up HTC GPS tool, set it to comm 4, 9600 and started in in hot start mode, stright away i get a fix.
Now i am really happy
Paul

adilkhan1214 said:
Programs
google maps
live search
I've tried everything and I don't want to do a hard reset. Currently it won't let me use my gps, i tried download quick gps and that didnt change anything, I tried changing around the com ports, it just never worked since the start.
gps tool says
Fix not available for gnss dop and active satlaties
GPS fixed data says lattitude and longitude of a bunch of 0's
I see a bunch of red dots when I click on satelites? but it also says mode 2: fix not availible on the bottom of that screen
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you must try Radio 1.13.25.24...it can be fix your problem.1 week ago i get this error but when i flashed 1.13.25.24 the problem has solved here is the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tjmgzm0nz0y
alternative link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=USMNPAS1
i stongly suggest after flashing radio, make hard reset...

adilkhan1214 said:
Programs
google maps
live search
I've tried everything and I don't want to do a hard reset. Currently it won't let me use my gps, i tried download quick gps and that didnt change anything, I tried changing around the com ports, it just never worked since the start.
gps tool says
Fix not available for gnss dop and active satlaties
GPS fixed data says lattitude and longitude of a bunch of 0's
I see a bunch of red dots when I click on satelites? but it also says mode 2: fix not availible on the bottom of that screen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you must try Radio 1.13.25.24...it can be fix your problem.1 week ago i get this error but when i flashed 1.13.25.24 the problem has solved here is the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tjmgzm0nz0y
alternative link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=USMNPAS1
i stongly suggest after flashing radio, make hard reset...

Gps dead

Hi to all
I had problem with "quickgps"
then i downloaded it and reinstalled it
after i didn't used my kaiser with gps programs for about a month
Today i have tried to use tom-tom and other gps program
but only result is that tom-tom and others program (igo,google map etc..)
don't find any gps , and message they say is
" no gps ! flight mode"
i tryed to soft reset , disconnect battery but nothing
internal gps like disappeared
I haven't installed any roms and i have only original when i bought it
i would appreciate any help
thank !

check your wireless manager. maybe you have flight mode selected,

your gps is not dead
its something to do with ur configration
either u r in flight mode as the warning message suggest
or
u have changed the port of gps connectivity

Gps still dead
Thank you for quick reply
i tried to check if flight-mode was on or not
then i checked
gps port config here is:
data port :com 4
hardport : none
acces : automatic checked
tom tom igo message is :"no gps device"
igo says :"gps not found"
in these days i never modified these values
i think i have to do a hard reset
i dont know what happened
Thank

You never want to use the GPS Settings applet in the control panel. It will break the GPS and require a hard reset to fix.

accursio1111 said:
i tried to check if flight-mode was on or not
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What do you mean 'tried to' check? Either you checked comm manager or you didn't. Was it in flight mode or not? I'm sure your GPS hasn't died, it'll just be a configuration issue and if you've been fiddling with settings you needn't have fiddled with and changing them back doesn't work, as NotATreoFan mentions, a hard reset may be the simplest cure (along with caution next time).
I just wish full sized PCs had the simple option of performing a hard reset rather than having to do numerous reinstalls or even a system recovery using a supplied recovery CDROM or hidden partition. PPC users have it easy when it comes to rectifying software 'misconfigurations'.

I had a similar problem, and I flashed another radio than flahsed again to the one that gived me trouble...an bingo, GPS start working again )
GL

Gps hardware not found?

My gps has been working fine all the time i have had my diamond and worked even better since the orange update a few weeks ago. But yesterday in tom tom and google maps my hardware is not detected. I have tried differnt settings as mentioned on the forums here but still cant get it working. I just wondered if there was another way of trying it again b4 i have to do a hard reset. Any help would be appreciated.

swiftkill3r said:
My gps has been working fine all the time i have had my diamond and worked even better since the orange update a few weeks ago. But yesterday in tom tom and google maps my hardware is not detected. I have tried differnt settings as mentioned on the forums here but still cant get it working. I just wondered if there was another way of trying it again b4 i have to do a hard reset. Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi,
it happened exactly the same situation to me then i installed HTC GPS TOOL (i found it on XDA but now i don't remember in which post, just use search) that i run before launching tomtom.
Hope it helps.
Panco

what settings do i need to use on there as i cant get it to connect on any port?

I have the HTC GPS Tool, on my Ignito the port is COM4 and it will connect at any baud rate.
I suggest you set the tool to - COM port: COM4 - Baudrate:38400 - Set the drop down box to 'Cold Start'
There is a label that says 'Open' , Click on it and it should change to 'Close' and you should start receiving data in the output window.
Check the drop down is set to 'Cold Start' and click on 'Nav Init' to reboot the GPS hardware.
If you are seeing any data in the O/P window then the GPS hardware is recognized and working.
HTH
Kim

just tried those settings but get " open com port failed" message.

Oops! Then it sounds like an OS problem or a hardware fault although that's pretty unlikely.
Unless anyone else has a better idea then maybe you need a hard reset?
If it's a WM problem then a reset will cure it
You can reset and leave the Internal Storage data intact, but you'll lose all your installed apps and data on the device of course, so backup (you probably know all this already )
EDIT: Just checking - you didn't change the com port accidentally somewhere did you

windows settings are set to com 4, none and baud to 4800 as i have seen on other posts but still no joy.

i cant even seem to do a hard reset as everytime i try as soon as i touch the red reset button the phone soft resets and doesnt come up with the hard reset menu. I am holiding volume down and enter quite firmly.

You can also hard reset from >Start>Settings>System>Clear Storage with the option to leave the Internal Storage drive untouched

done a hard reset and everything is working fine again! thx for your help

Help with GPS

I tried everything and i am jst giving up. what can i do to make this friggin gps work? I followed everything meticulously on ppcgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36639 without any luck. google maps keeps search for satelites, and nothing. always number is zero. do you have any idea what could be wrong? i am on telus cdma network btw.

hi friend...
1st in which area of this sad world do you live??
2nd what is your mobile operator??
3rd do you have a costant/flat umts/gprs connection trought your mobile??
bye,
davide

i live in toronto. i had blackberry curve before this and the gps was smooooth.
this one is being alil biatch.
i am with telus
the third question i don't understand, but my blackberry curve was also with telus, for a week before diamond arrived and the gps was excellent. i don't know why diamond gps is so screwed up. as i said, my diamond is the cdma version. any help is much appriciated, thank you.

I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide

Hi bro!its me again!

suiller said:
I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
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This has always worked for me as well......and I have to do this often as I'm always flashing Radios to try and find the "Optimum" one

suiller said:
I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
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yup!work for me too!

hey ninja, lol. how's it going
suiller thanks for the help. i am going to give that a try. i hard reset my rom. i am on juicy 2.5. but it didn't change much. do you think if your first option does not help. i should flash another rom, maybe stock rom, and then put the one i want?

it depends... like mentioned above if your GPS works it just a gps cache problem, in fact soon as cooked the gps cache is empty or corrupted, so it must be reinitialized, doing so the 1st time takes long time
instead if your gps isn't detected, you can check in a minute also by lanuching gps tool, it is yet configured to look at com4 (default com port for gps in htc brand, the problem is somewhere else, I mean that probably the problem could be also in the rom you are using, if the 1st procedure does not work, try to restore your original rom, before carrying back your mobile for warranty be sure it isn't "self-mistake" (for ex by installing an "unofficial" rom)
for what I can say I cooked almost everything & just happened one time, many months ago in my opinion 99,9% of cooked roms doesn't touch gps at all, so I sincerely didn't remember what's happened that time
bye,
davide

hi. thanks for all the help guys.
i tried the gps tool. i installled it and selected clear memory, open, and it never stopped going through the numbers. same numbers again and again, but when i clicked setting it said mode 2 not fixed.
if i recall properly, the gps message i got from google maps was gps not found, but i am not sure ithat it's the rom's fault. it's very popular on ppc geeks. i tried qualcom method to solve the problem but it did nothing. mdata, info, is saved on my hone but no change. so i will try disabling agps, if no help i hard eefresh, or put another rom, if all faili go to fet it replaced, again.
thanks for all you support

ok, i reflashed to stock rom, tried the gps tool, it keeps showing the same method and won't stop. do i need to wait for it to stop?, cuz when i go to information it says mode 2 not fixed.
i am going to hard refresh, and put juicy 2.5 back on, and wait for your help. if nothing i will take it to the store.

I hope you don't have A-GPS cofigured...this will surely screw up your GPS

in tweak diamond, agps is enabled. when i disable it and go to quick gps, it gives me an error, when its enabled quick gps downloads.
should i disable a-gps in tweak diamond?

sure friend, AGPS should be disabled if your provider isn't able to "provide" you that service, beucase it takes busy over & over your gps chipset
there 3 modes to update gps sats positioning:
1) quickgps, simply it's a database where are stored circles/ellipses made by sats, because they are always the same, that data are predicted, so for this reason those values are good also for the near future (at max 1 week), this is the "old" method used by years to make fixing times faster, even if resulting position isn't very accurate
2) AGPS, this should be the last & most intelligent feature, of course your provider must be able to provide that data, if your provider can do this it simply compares your current position (cell broadcast) with the ones stored in their database, and provides automatically to your mobile (trought a regular gprs or umts service) updates positioning, if your provider isn't able to provide this service your gps chipset will be always busy because it scans the network continuosly and other software like for ex tomtom wont be able to access the gps chipset anymore because like told above it is busy by another application
3) classical method, I call old school, and this is also the more realistic method, even if 1st time can take very long and if you don't use very much your navi software it is very annoying because sats runs fast simply it needs a program like gps tool or gps test to full the gps cache (1st time is totally empty), where will be stored current sats position (circles/ellipses), this method can also be reached with last modern navi software, like for ex tomtom7, you must leave it runs until it finds something, remember that 1st time can take up to 20 minutes... it depends also by region & sky conditions, in general in a good environment (ex openspace) for me & in my experience it never took over 5/10 minutes
so if your provider doesn't provide AGPS service simply turn it off and re-run the 3rd method in an open space and you'll see that something will happen
anyway if trought gps tool you are able to open the com4 port and you see data flows it means that your gps chipset is recognized, you have just to wait, if you want a faster/simpler app search here around for "gps test"... simply run it, it detects automatically your gps com port & starts to discover sats
hoping to have cleared something about gps system
bye,
davide

ok, i reflashed stock telus rom, then i flashed juicy 2.5, hard reset and here i am. i got diamond tweak, disabled a-gps:
with a-gps disabled, quickpgs does not update any more. gives me an error at the end.
so i am going to do clear memory with gps tool, but does baudrate matter? when i turn it on it is set at 5600 should i change it to 4800?
do i need to be in an open area when clearing memory, or it does not matter?
if this wont work, i will go in throug hqualcom, and make sure i have the settings posted on ppc geeks forum. i hope something will turn up.
what is the connection though. if a-gps is disabled, quick gps does not download. but when its enabled it does. does it mean telus supports a-gps or it shows that there is an internal problem with my gps?
thanks for all the help.

i installed gps test. it shows yellow circle and GPS starting up. above it shows hdop 50.00 Fix 1D, and baudrate is set at 9600.
does this also take a long time, or is it a good sign. if it shows this, does it mean my gps is working, but only needs to be reconfigured somewhow?

i was just outside for 1 hour, with the gps tool turned on. nothing. it keeps clearing memory, or so it says, but when i look the same numbers show up. i waited for an hour till it got dark and cold and went back. gps test shows starting up gps but never getsa round to it either.
i duno what to do anymore.

ah, where is everyone?

holy crap, finally, i solved it.
I had the same problem after setting AGPS in Advanced Configuration Tool. Nothing I did: soft reset, hard reset even installing new ROM resolved the issue. Finally I found the problem: Go to Programs-settings-phone-services-Location setting-get settings-On. This allows your phone to tell your GPS where you are. The GPS now finds satellites in a few seconds.
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it was an old habit of disabling gps to emergency only. i didn't realize it would screw me over on a pda. well. nice nice nice.
thanks for all your help everyone, you ahve been great.

this means that your mobile provider supports AGPS feature
so it must turned on... well done

Locked GPS

Hi I have a T-Mobile Compact IV (HTC Diamond I believe) and my GPS has just stopped working. It comes with CoPilot LIve 7 Trial and has been working fine until I bought the licence code for the full version.
Now it says there is 'No GPS Signal' when I run CoPilot. I have tried QuickGPS and Google Maps (both pre installed like CoPilot) and neither of thoses apps work either!
I have read that the GPS chicp could be locked? Anybody came accross this problem before or have a solution to this. I have emailed T-Mobile, HTC and the makers of CoPilot. Seems like nobody is interested in helping now that I have shelled out for a licence code.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

GPS chip cannot be "locked" out...forget that
There are a number of great threads relating to GPS issues exactly as you described (too numerous to list though...) suggest you have a quick search and move on from there...
I expect that you need to clear the embedded data (use HTC GPS Tool, and clear memory) and then be patient for a first fix.......confident this will work for you

i'd also recomend GPS Tool, its availible here.
Just download the .cab file and run it on your MDACIV

Thanks for the reply guys. I have downloaded and tried the HTC GPS tool and it doesn't seem to find anything. All I get is the error 'Failed to send NMEA command'.
I have just downloaded Google Maps and tested that with the GPS setting and it just sits there saying 'Seeking GPS Satelites (0)...' for ages.
I have also tried lots of the other suggestions in this forum but with no luck. Its almost as if there is no GPS built into this. The only things I have hope for is to hard reset the MDA or to update the ROM/Radio. Tried using the reg edit tool and adv config tool to see if any settings are causing a problem? Could it be the update to comapct farmework 3.5 or the settings for the IP phone?
Unfortunatly I have followed the instructions to hard reset the MDA but it just seems to soft reset, plus what will happen to my installation of CoPilot as it was pre-installed with the phone. I have a backup done with the Sprite Backup tool that came with the phone but will this restore programs if the device is reset?
And the ROMs are all for the HTC Diamond. Plus not too sure about invalidating my warranty with an update.
Really starting to think the GPS has just broke on me. Which is a bit odd since it hasn't been dropped or damaged etc...
Starting to get a bit frustrated as there doesn't seem to be a conclusive answer any where on the web and no supplier is getting back to me (wonder why...?)

OK...it lookslike you have a few more options now....
First thing is make a backup! Do this now and save it to Internal Storage.
A Hard reset appears to be the next option...its fiddely to organise, but it sounds like you need to get a "fresh" install. I would then only install the HTC GPS Tool and then try and find your GPS using standard setting as installed. If it cannot be found then perhaps you have an issue with the unit itself.
As for your co-pilot, surely you have the install cab or disc that came with the unit?
Right now you need to know:
i) Are just the settings screwed up, or
ii) Do I have a faulty unit.....
If it faulty you want to keep the original ROM for warranty purpose (so don't flash that........yet!)

Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Some applications like Igo8 are able to access the GPS whilst the phone is in flight mode.
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
This can be set in the Comms Manager.

topspeclt said:
Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
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Not as far I am aware. I can and have run TT6 with flight mode engaged - on a BA flight. It starts by saying flight mode engaged at the bottom left, but still finds the satelites (as long as you are next to the window).
And yes BA allow the use of GPS for flights except at take off and landing.

Thanks everyone for the replies.
But I took the plunge and dislocated my fingers to perform a hard reset. After the hard reset the phone automatically re-installed all the supplied apps (CoPilot, Google Maps etc...) and it worked fine.
Tried lots of suggestions and tools but this is the only thiong that has worked. I have read lots of conflicting posts about how the GPS can lock due to several apps attempting to use it while other say its due to the phone not having it enabled as default. And then others say it can't lock!
At the end of the day the GPS worked in the morning and then stopped in the afternoon after no fiddling with the phone. This makes me feel like it could happen again.
As I write this I have just had my first manufacturer response. Its from the makers of CoPilot. They have posted the following :
Please go to Start Menu | Settings | System / GPS
• At the bottom left hand corner of the screen please select Programs and change the GPS program port to COM 4.
• Select Hardware at the bottom left hand corner of the screen and make sure the GPS hardware port to be set to COM 3 and the Baud Rate to 4800.
• Finally at the bottom left hand corner of the screen Select Access and check if the box Manage GPS automatically is ticked.
• Also, please go into START | SETTINGS | CONNECTIONS | BEAM
Please ensure that the beam is unticked as this affects the GPS pickup.
• Also ensure that you do not have any other GPS program installed on the device as this could also affect the GPS setup in Copilot.
2. Launch CoPilot Live on your Pocket PC (Tap on ""Start --> CoPilot Live"")
a. In the ""GPS"" menu, tap ""Options"" and tap on ""Setup GPS""
b. Tap on ""Manual"" and in the ""GPS Com Port and Baud Rate"" section, select the COM port and Baud Rate as provided by your GPS manufacturer (Com 4, Baud Rate: 9600). If you do not know this information, tap the ""Automatic"", then tap ""Next"" and CoPilot Live will search all available ports for your receiver. Note: If you are using a Bluetooth GPS receiver, your Pocket PC's Bluetooth Manager must be aware of the device before CoPilot Live can detect it.
c. Tap ""OK"" at the top of the screen to close the GPS Options. Note: CoPilot will remember the GPS settings on exit, so you will only need to configure your GPS on the first use.
Would like to have tried this but I spent quite a bit of time messing with COM port setting et all... and nothing seemed to work. Ho hum.
Anyhoo, again thanks everybody from your help.
Andrew