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Wifi signal gone

When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?

cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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Have you put the slider to best performance rather than best battery?

Yes i did
never had the problem with the tytn and wizard.

I only get that on my TyTN II when I'm far away from the router and the signal strength is low. If you've already set the performance vs battery life slider to give maximum performance as suggested by kareem9nba and it's still behaving as reported, what happens when you're near to the router?
If it's just that your saying the range isn't as good as youve been used to with other devices, I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with as this is my first WiFi capable ppc - but I'm sure other more experienced members here will be able to comment. If you're near to the router where there's no doubt it should be working fine and still getting problems then thats a different matter.

maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)

mospantagruel said:
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
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All other devices doenst have the problem output signal is ok but i ll try peekpocket

Flying Kiwi said:
I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with
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I do! My Kaiser's performance is on a par with my old HTC Universal, which is to say, they are both terrible at getting a signal. I don't think my Kaiser is faulty as back in the Universal forums, it was often commented how useless the WiFi was in comparison to other machines. I used to have a HP Ipaq 5450 which could get a signal upto approx 20m from my router, my laptop starts struggling at around 50m. The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
I think the WiFi on the Universal and the Kaiser just isn't that powerful. I guess it's Maximum Performance setting is still quite low power in order to save battery life. Wonder if there is a registry tweek to increase the power to the WiFi card, and if doing that would blow the card?!

Steve-C said:
The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
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I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage) and even with a wall and a floor between my TyTN II and the router it still works about 15 m away, I've yet to try any further as that'd be outside the house. I was impressed to see it even detected other WiFi sources in the area though. I found that even though the signal quality bar was fluctuating, my web browsing still worked OK. Bumping the slider towards the performance end did make a difference to the signal quality indicator (although it still fluctuated). If your TyTN II is only working up to 4 m from your router then I think there's a fault with either device, you should be getting better than that.

I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.

Flying Kiwi said:
I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage)
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Funny that, so am I! However I bought it because it was cheap and I really didn't know much about WiFi etc several years ago when I bought it. I notice many routers come with external antenna's, mine is all internal so I would think that it's more my router isn't that powerful, combined with the Kaiser having a less powerful WiFi set-up that older models. To be fair, the Ipaq had an external antenna (of sorts, a little lump on top) and my previous laptops didn't have built in WiFi, their external WiFi adaptors also had external antenna's.
Frankly I think that all this internalisation of components is having a negative impact on signal strength and range. To compare I have a GSM car kit with an external antenna that picks up a much better signal than a phone on it's own. Likewise my GPS can be connected to an external antenna and I've noticed when connected it will pick up more satalites, with a stronger lock, than when on it's built in antenna. It also picks up more than the Kaiser (internal antenna) or Universal (external bluetooth GPS with internal antenna) ever do.
Still, it all just about works for my needs, so I'm going to leave well alone!

Juzzman said:
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
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i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....

checked
i checked signal and even did hard reset on kaiser.
i still have full signal and goes to zero all the time
no clue here

eipiklein said:
i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).

Flying Kiwi said:
But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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really i can't connect to my wifi router, while other hardware can (a laptop for example). it loops from "connecting" to "available" with 5 bars. but nevers connect or never shows an error. i tried open, WEP, WPA, WPA2 with no results... its a compatibility problem of TYTN II with some routers....
i hope that upgrading firmware, this problem dissapear....

Hi
My experience isn't that the signal itself is particlarly poor, but that it can be prone to loose connection regularly if its very weak. Atm I'm sitting some 150m from the accesspoint (quite powerfull transmitter), through a couple of concrete walls and its fast, as in almost so fast as the Kaiser can chew. Livestreaming from Youtube is np etc. The signal is no doubt very poor tho, and I have to use max signal/minimum battery on that bar you can adjust.
What drives me nuts is that it DCs me and often force me to key in the network key randomly every 1 to 20mins or so. I don't know if this is due to weak signal (both my laptop and the kaiser have 1 bar) or config of the wlan/kaiser. The PC dont DC, but its deffo a cranky connection. It almost seems like theres some auto-DC feature somewhere.
On other networks I haven't seen this. Generally I find the Kaiser wlan surprisingly powerfull, albeit it often shows a weak signal I've found this to be very relative and far from always descriptive of real life performance.
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kaiser wifi low signal - wi fi poor reception - wifi disconnecting and reconnecting:
Suffered a lot with my kaiser wifi poor reception. Tested several radio versions and could solve the problem.
Radio version:
1 71 09 01 - too low WIFI reception
1.27.12.11 - disconnecting and turning OFF the WIFI with no automatic reengage of the access point or turning ON the WIFI if coverage is good.
1.65.17.56 is the versione that SOLVED my problem.
This radio was collected from the original HTC shipped rom:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
In this moment I am running Radio 1.65.17.56 with
ROM jjblaster3 - updated 28014 with good WIFI behaviour.
I need to underline that the reception I have now with the Kaiser, can never reach the sensibility of my Nokia 5530 WIFI or the one I have on my laptop with good antenna embeded in my LCD framem but I am happy now because the WIFI is making sense now.
Best Regards

cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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I'm facing the same problem. WiFi worked fine and one day it was suddenly gone. Tried quite a few radios, including 1.65.17.56 and still no deal.
To elaborate, when WiFi is turned on, the icon never even comes up in the taskbar, and it continues to remain in an off state (when checked in wifi settings) even when it's turned on (in the comm manager).
I'm guessing this could be a hardware problem like a loose contact to the antenna? Anyone heard of such issues?
(On a side note, the phone function never worked either, I always got a "No Service")

I've fixed it! I believe the problem was indeed a loose antenna. I opened up my phone and removed the antenna peice (the plastic plate that also houses the speaker) and pushed up the two pins left of the camera (so that they'll have better contact with the antenna piece. Put everything back and now the WiFi works!
Now if only I can figure out why the cellular doesn't work..

Is the Radio related to tethering speed?

I have a HTC Tilt with a Dutty WM6.1 ROM and radio 1.64.08.21.
Before I did any ROM updates I swear tethering was faster. I remember going to speedtest.net and I was getting speed up to 1100kb/s and 250kb/s upload. now after upgrading to a new ROM it seems a lot slower. I also did a radio upgrade about a week later but everything seemed the same. i went to speedtest.net today and i get 126kb/s upload and 100kb/s. Now if I upgrade radios when I get home will that help or am I just wasting my time? Could it be something else?

blkdrgn said:
I have a HTC Tilt with a Dutty WM6.1 ROM and radio 1.64.08.21.
Before I did any ROM updates I swear tethering was faster. I remember going to speedtest.net and I was getting speed up to 1100kb/s and 250kb/s upload. now after upgrading to a new ROM it seems a lot slower. I also did a radio upgrade about a week later but everything seemed the same. i went to speedtest.net today and i get 126kb/s upload and 100kb/s. Now if I upgrade radios when I get home will that help or am I just wasting my time? Could it be something else?
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I am assuming with those speeds that would be 3G are you sure your phone is still picking up the 3G signal? A radio can make a difference, but I doube that much, it seems more like its not picking up the 3G.

It has the 3g icon on the front. It should be working as I go into areas that doesn't have the signal and the icon goes away. is there another way to determine I'm actually connected to 3g?

blkdrgn said:
It has the 3g icon on the front. It should be working as I go into areas that doesn't have the signal and the icon goes away. is there another way to determine I'm actually connected to 3g?
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So many things can affect tethering speed it's hard sometimes to truelly judge..the 3G icon can be slow to fade...different radio's will change some things...some appear to be more responsive with less latency on a particular network or provider. However unless you are testing them back to back on identical phones at the same time it's going to be hard to accurately judge....a network's speed and responsiveness can change from minute to minute based on the activity going on in that particular area...or if a key tower is down for maintenance...etc....If you do test different radio's try to be in a stable location and do it in the early morning hours when traffic is low...that way you minimize interference by external sources.

I guess I'll try to upgrade radios anyway. It's been this slow since I upgraded which was about a month ago. I use tethering 5 times a week for 8 hours a day so im pretty sure that my testing has been consistant.

blkdrgn said:
I guess I'll try to upgrade radios anyway. It's been this slow since I upgraded which was about a month ago. I use tethering 5 times a week for 8 hours a day so im pretty sure that my testing has been consistant.
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I would try the 1.58.16.27 NIKI radio. I tether frequently and my speeds are incredibly fast (around 1.5mbps).

Slingplayer freezing and choppy (AT&T Tilt)

I'm currently running the stock AT&T Rom (Windows Mobile 6.0) without bloatware on my Tilt. I'm running the newest Slingbox (1.6) for Pocket PC.
I currently have 2 "H" signal where I watch my slingplayer, but either my phone or the signal is screwy.
When watching I will have bursts of good framerate, but constant freezing, and choppy playback.
I've tried all sorts of combinations of settings.
I've tried the slingplayer auto optimization, I've set my bit rate to a variety of amounts, and frame rates, as well as with and without the GDI rendering. I've tried just about every combo of settings in the player. I do know that this is not on the slingbox's end though, as it works great from computers when remote viewing..
I've changed my KaiserTweak settings (such as TCP windows size) but none of those improve it.
I've even set my bitrate to the lowest possible it still freezes off and on. I've gotten to the point where I think it must be the phone that is causing this.
I'm surprised I don't see more people with this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may improve this for me?

what is the lowest bw that slingplayer have? if you are using edge, you'll have to be able to go as low as 40kbps... also, what is your upstream bw limited to? try connecting via wifi & see if you are still having problems.
i use orb to stream my tv tuner & prefer not to waste money on slingplayer...

If you want to see if it's the phone or the signal, plug it into a computer on the network of your SlingBox and use the ActiveSync connection. At least that way, if it works great you know it's a singal/bandwidth issue, and if it's still screwy, you know it's your phone.
Personally, mine ran fine on the AT&T stock Rom for quite a while, and I didn't really notice any issues....but I usually had at least 3 or 4 H bars when I was using it. Right now I'm running a cooked 6.1 rom and it works great on that too, but you should still be able to get decent playback with stock.
Another thing to try (this might sound odd), but try disabling HDSPA. There could be a chance that you actually get better signal with 3G than with H (and 3G is still enough speed for a smooth picture).

Have you tried it on a Wireless LAN? Mine works no problem at all either on 3g or wireless lan.

odd.... I have edge so I dont sling unless I find wifi or travel out of my city to a 3g or better area. But when I was on "H" it was near wifi quality with no hiccups. Try wifi and try ruling out at&t's network.
SlingBox Rules. One of the greatest purchases I've ever made. I like connecting to my friends slingbox in oregon to watch Pac 10 college football games! Go Trojans

Well I connected my phone to my wifi at home (network my box is on) - and it was better, but still not great. Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
Even at home my frame-rate was fairly choppy. I tried Auto optimization, and many variations of bit-rate and other settings (GDI).
Is there any setting in KaiserTweak that may actually slow internet? Such as TCP window size, or resends (Data/Connect)? (Would the GDI/Font Cache help with slingplayer any since it's using GDI rendering?
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. It may just be this spot were I sit at work has a shakey signal strength or something.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let me know - Thanks.
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?

nogardtilt said:
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?
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I'm not really sure why that could be the case. I just know that in certain places I can get a very different level of signal strength between E and H (E is full strength, but only 2 bars of H), so I thought that could possibly also be the case between H and 3G (maybe you could get 4 bars of 3G where you only could get 2 bars of H). So yeah....I don't have a whole lot of knowledge behind that, but I figured it was an easy enough test to try....just trying to help you troubleshoot.

Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.

netboy said:
Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.
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I'm not surprised by that, when you do that it's a smaller resolution - which uses less bandwidth.
I'll try again next work-week (couldn't test today) to see if any of these suggestions helped. At the point I'm assuming that I have some network issues where I sit.

Well, I did try the suggestions a few weeks back but no change. I still assume where I sit at work has some signal issues.
I did notice however that even at home on my wifi my frame-rate was still choppier than it should have been. This I have attributed to the poor video playback on the Tilt.
In any case, I did discover something helpful here: I updated to the official AT&T 6.1 ROM and noticed a drastic improvement. Although the video playback is not where it should be for the phone, it did improve the Slingplayer quality greatly.
I could instantly notice the video looked smoother and more consistent. I now can go 1-2 hours of slingplaying with only 1 or 2 hiccups, and those have been very minor.
I think my earlier troubles were a mix of the phone performance and the signal. But the 6.1 change has really helped out.
I need to try the HTC CA drivers and see if it helps anymore. I did notice that the Samsung Omnia ones "seemed" to help some (back on 6.0) - but I know it was not supposed to, so maybe I just had a lucky streak of good signal or something.

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I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.

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I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.
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Well, I can't speak for Orb.....but yeah, I said streaming video is working for me. What I DIDN'T say is that streaming video is working for me on EDGE. So what are you doing wrong?.....you are trying to get streaming video to work over a connection that is too slow for it. You need to have a decent 3G (preferably HSDPA) connection to be able to use this sort of thing - EDGE simply wasn't made to do what you are trying to do.

I am experiencing the same issue on a brand new Sprint Touch pro with slingplayer 1.6. The phone is an EVDO rev-a device and I still get low framerate, dropping datarate, etc, then sometimes it falls back to the 1x network. I tried wifi connected to a WRT54g and it definitely stabilized but the kbps averaged 245 to 330 at 14 FPS. My Windows xp client averages about 745 kbps on the same internet connection.
I tried it at home where the slingbox truly resides, connected to wifi and there were still low results. I thought for sure it would go over 1000 kbps. There has to be some network throttling going on on Windows Mobile.
Any others out there experiencing this? Any other tweaks that someone else may discovered?

I get the same, tethered to my laptop I get impeccable performance.
The same 3g connection on my tilt stutters on full screen, i generally enable slingstream optimisation and gdi rendering which helps.
There is a new Mobile Client in the pipeline.... although if its a driver issue the tilt is screwed either way, because on my Blue Angel over wifi slingplayer is perfect, as good as a portable tv.
Im assuming its a combination of bad drivers and slingplayer throttling the bandwidth for battery purposes.
Id like to be able to have a slider much like the wifi performance one, because a lot of the time my tilt is externally powered, so power usage is not an issue.

I kinda had this problem when I switched from my 8525 to the tilt, I just switched all the setting back to default and it is pretty much flawless as long as I'm in 3g and also pretty damn good in the edge network as long as I have at least 3 bars. Have you tried reinstalling Slingplayer mobile/ Also make sure you dont have any background application running in your active programs list.

Are you happy with WIFI reception?

Today I try register TD2 on my university's WIFI system.
The authentication of this system IEEE 802.1x so I need to type ID and password for log-in.
When I used P3600 (trinity,wm5), Registry was okay and I can use in its coverage well.
However TD2 has trouble, when I loged in the wireless system, it suddenly disconnected during type ID or Password. (I solved it by ID copy & Paste) Also, I feel it does not catch WIFI signal well.
After then, I try test two device in my home.
My home has BT Broadband hub1 and I compared Signal Quality graph.
At the weakest aerial area, I cannot see any graph on TD2 but P3600 shows short green graph. By the way, TD2 catch the signal earlier than P3600.
Ok... This situation might be understand but when I put two mobiles in front of Hub (Wireless modem), I found slightly strange result.
The graph of P3600 is full-filled as expected but the graph of TD2 isn't. I think the graph of TD2 is reached almost 80%.
I wish it should be covered by Rom update but if this situation suffered just my device, I concern MY 2nd TD2 has problem. (Of course, I believe I over-worried)
How do you feel the WIFI reception of your Touch Diamond 2?
(P.S.) Sorry, my English is not fluent.

I received my D2 today and have been playing with it by having it connected to my home wifi network. The reception seems fine but occasionally I do see it resync. Suppose it could be better but it hasn't failed on me, so I'm happy neither the less.
EDIT: I had further play with wifi and yes I agree the reception is poor

I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.

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I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
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The condition of test was same condition as possible.
Strength Slider is same 'Best for Battery' and P3600 graph is better than Touch Diamond2.

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I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
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Yeah gave that a go little to no difference mate.

I've got my TD2 since 5 days, and while I am very please with it overall, I agree the wifi reception is poor...
The signal strength is much lower and I loose connection much faster than a laptop...which is probably normal, but reception is also poorer compared to my "old" acer n311 PDA, which is about 2-3 year old...
Reception seems to improve when antenna is not covered by your hand, but unfortunately, as the antena is at the bottom of the TD2, near the mini-USB connector, your hand is almost always over it when you hold the device in one hand....
I have also observed the "never-perfect reception" phenomenon, I can go 1m from my wifi router and be at 80% signal strength only...I would have maxed out signal quality of my laptop much much earlier than that of course...
I hope it will get better, maybe with a radio update, but I fear this is purely hardware driven, so I will just to have to live with it. Too bad, as I typically use my phone/PDA in "wardriving/warwalking" situation, trying to pick the occasional free wifi to download emails and browse during hollidays. I usually have a laptop in situation where I have a secured wifi acces with clean signal...and at home/work, nothing beat a wired gigabit workstation LOL...

Personally, I haven't had any issues with WIFI on my TD2. I have the wifi battery slider set in the middle and I connect first time, everytime to the router at home and at work.

Change radio w/o changing ROM?

Is it feasible to change the radio without changing the ROM?
I am running the stock WM6.1, but my WiFi sucks since I installed my home wireless system. I installed a linksys WRT110 RANGEPLUS wireless router...range is good for my laptop, but the Tilt is good out to about 20 feet with the stock radio.

I don't think the radio has anything to do with wireless, just the camera, sound and cell radio.

hey, 2 quick questions b4 this is closed down:
the stock roms(and their upgrades), do these upgrade files(they just have 1 big .exe file, and no .nbh file) also change your radio?
and secondly, since i changed roms, radio and spl, my gps is now a couple thousand meters off point, would this be bcuz of my rom/radio/spl, or are the satellites just havn a bad day. (satellite..having a bad day....... get it.... lmao)

its ok to change radio without changing rom..changing radio is for you to get a good signal from your service provider and gps i think..and for your wifi problems change your kaiser wifi settings to full performance, it might be in full battery option..

Well, even though I live in the boonies, I have a full strength HSDPA signal and my GPS works like a charm.
WiFi worked well at some hotspots in the past, but now, not so much, especially with the set up I have in the house.
Don't matter, I have the unlimited data plan, and 8meg cable for internet.
Just thought I could get the WiFi working better.