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i live in usa and will be looking at getting a tilt. at the moment i have a 8525(hermes) i like this phone but its not quite enough for me. i seek a better camera more memory and gps functionality. i really wanted the imate 9502 but with consistant delays and no esimated release date i am having trouble waiting.
so i look to the kaiser. would this be a good phone for me or will i be dissapointed?
normally I help with these kinds of questions but damn, this info is all over the place. please search
Eric's right. Do your research, and remember AT&T has a 30 day return period. If you buy the Tilt and decide you don't like it make sure you take it back to the store and exchange it before your 30 days are up.
-Jay
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
Must make sticky of this (RULES) on the Kaiser forum TOO.. because many people (including me) has broken some of them in any moment,
thanx Mods =)
9. Help others if you can
OK, you can post that message now. If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping eachother, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
it would have been nice to just hear a quick summary of your thoughts comparing the 8525 to the 8925. after reading i have received mixed messages about the kaiser.
my opinion so far is that it has too many problems with it to be worthwhile and i should wait for something better.
rljetsetradio;1908420it would have been nice to just hear a quick summary of your thoughts comparing the 8525 to the 8925. after reading i have received mixed messages about the kaiser.
my opinion so far is that it has too many problems with it to be worthwhile and i should wait for something better.[/QUOTE said:
8925 tilts, 8525 doesn't.
8925 camera and default video player are not as good as 8525.
8925 has GPS, 8525 doesn't.
8925 is faster for basic business productivity apps.
Let me know if I left anything out.
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I have just bricked my hermes 30 mins ago tsk the day i finally fixed it (upper right hand screen tap) (bought it cheap black market brand new failed to check forum first). After it was stable for hours, while connected i upgrade to radio 1.43 and after it installed, it was still plugged and poof. screen faded and no more. not even a red light. (is there a solution?) totally ddead.
anyway I was thinking of buying a tytn II for replacement. should i buy? after all the raves and complaints im not so sure. im buying this because of u guys even if im new. i saw how u guys fixed up the hermes and i loved it even when it was bugging.
Usage summary :
I will abuse it. use it and charge it if battery dies while using it.
I will play games and test its capabilities to all its extent.
Application crazy and of course calls.
I have read of the rlod, battery life sucks, heats up too fast, unproper video drivers, software not working. So should i buy? thanks. im buying 2 coz im going to give it as a gift. but before i throw cash, please since u all have it and a lot of u guys are power users, should i buy it or go for a glofiish or hp ipaq 614 instead?
thanks.
Buying stuff from the black market, and the way you talk? Nope - you should get the IPAQ or the Glitter or something - you are WAY too cool for the Tilt.
It's all up to you...........
TyTN II / Tilt is up to you. From everything you have read in this forum, should be enough for you to make that decision. I can't tell you what you like and dislike. Anyway, Good luck......
I understand but it might be that nobody would post in the forum for raves of the tytn II and the most replied topics would be problem solving. Since a lot of you are actual users, i just want to know if you guys are happy with yours and if you could use it continuously for a long time.
mchapman007 said:
TyTN II / Tilt is up to you. From everything you have read in this forum, should be enough for you to make that decision. I can't tell you what you like and dislike. Anyway, Good luck......
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Dont mean no disrespect. im new to this but i will abuse the phone. im just wondering if it could take the same abuse as the hermes did or will this phone heat up too much.
tsk didnt mean to sound fresh but it's mother's day and i would give one to my mom.
whk said:
Buying stuff from the black market, and the way you talk? Nope - you should get the IPAQ or the Glitter or something - you are WAY too cool for the Tilt.
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So guys, any raves about the tytn II? is it stable enough to use 3-4 hours straight? maybe reading an ebook or playing a game?
It's stable enough for me to last a whole week without restarting. The only reason I restart weekly is because I perform regular backups.
sphynx88 said:
Dont mean no disrespect. im new to this but i will abuse the phone. im just wondering if it could take the same abuse as the hermes did or will this phone heat up too much.
tsk didnt mean to sound fresh but it's mother's day and i would give one to my mom.
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I love you Mom, here's a black market TIlt !
it's a great phone. problem is it has lots of bugs as well. if you can wait for the sony X1.
i should change this title to raves on the tytn II
haha im actually asking for reviews not the decision. because as much bad as it has i bet it has a lot of good. as long as all the major functionality is there id give it as a gift if not nokia n95 for her tytn for me coz i dont mind customizing and doing the work it's just going to be hell if she calls me just to ask phone problems.
yes this freaking phone is a pua tool. cant wait for that reason it's an auto attention getter which makes her invest more time on u and therefore.... (move to next location or simply entertain). in any case chill back guys, hold drinks down not by the chest.
hahaha this is hilarious thanks for making me laugh. yup my thoughts exactly. it's the thought that counts!
TheChampJT said:
I love you Mom, here's a black market TIlt !
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thanks for this see. first useful reply.
outphase said:
It's stable enough for me to last a whole week without restarting. The only reason I restart weekly is because I perform regular backups.
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thanks will actually look at it. i havent seen it so i might wait for that instead. let me check out the specs first. right now im back to my trusty n80 hehe
Gundem said:
it's a great phone. problem is it has lots of bugs as well. if you can wait for the sony X1.
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thanks i checked the specs but i think that's just like buying an hermes all over again except for the 500 mhz. but sony makes pretty stable phones. but i think it's still time to wait for the ultimate phone right now maybe im up for a second hand hermes and save the money.
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thanks will actually look at it. i havent seen it so i might wait for that instead. let me check out the specs first. right now im back to my trusty n80 hehe
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I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
Cheers
the problem with TF3D disable it
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upgrade to latest rom
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.
Monty Burns said:
What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.
Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
MisterSosa said:
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111
Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
KukurikU said:
wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.
Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?
Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
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@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here
Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.
Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers
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Same here
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT
I could have sworn I read somewhere that someone had modified the screen angle of the kaiser to be almost perpendicular to the keyboard when laid out. I though for sure it was here on XDA as this is pretty much the only site i read/ post in actively, however ive yet to find the original thread. Im curious about modding mine to have a sharper angle ( plus I have a spare already in hand if I make a horrible mistake )
Has anyone seen the post im referring to ?
Thanks
here it is TonyChen Screen Mod It's posted onmike channon's space which has many more disassembly guides.
Thank you very much I knew I wasnt totally crazy ! ( almost there though lol )
Has anyone here tried this yet ?
i haven't but just looked through the guide and shouldn't be that hard..
I think you'll be fine, specially if you have experience with disassembling and reparing devices. Just don't get too frustrated if one piece won't open/come off and just keep at it gently so you don't damage anything.
good luck and take photos
I certainly will!
Although it may be a few weeks before I get to it. Things are kinda busy these days
on my physical keyboard on my tilt some of the keys are not very responsive...they dont have good tactile feedback when you push on them. it really came to my attention when i worked on one of my co-workers tilt and his had a lot better feedback...dont know if its fixable or not?? ideas?
Sometimes it amazes me on what people will post now days.
Either send it in for service or get a new keyboard and replace it.
that's funny it amazes me that there are still people out there (such as yourself) who take the time to post a worthless reply...and you are shocked at my post...
think you should step back and think before you post.
and just so you know i did have a replacment sent to me but it felt the same as mine so i sent it back. FYI we have about 6 tilts in my office i've checked 2 of them and there is a definite difference in the feel.
Are you expecting a cab fix for worn out keys? Seriously?
You're complaining about the feel of your keyboard, so what do you expect from anyone here? It's not a software problem, and your not happy with a hardware fix, what else is there?
ChumleyEX said:
Are you expecting a cab fix for worn out keys? Seriously?
You're complaining about the feel of your keyboard, so what do you expect from anyone here? It's not a software problem, and your not happy with a hardware fix, what else is there?
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Not to beat a dead horse or prolong this thread, but I agree and I will try to be nice,. If you don't like your phone, the feel , the speed , the camera, the video playback and the hundreds of whines about the tilt, then get a new phone. The waste of time time here is not the response, it is the fact that much of this forum has turned into the weiner whiner line.
I love my Tilt, it is the best phone I have ever had and I have had a lot. If you don't like HTC or your phone, get a new one, nice and simple.
starting to wish i never posted this...
I love my tilt. no, i'm not expecting a software fix. (even though at&t had me reboot my phone in attempt to fix it) yes i would be happy with a hardware fix...its just the replacement phone i got was the same.
if you have access to more than one device try a couple of them out see if you can notice the difference in keyboards (my co-workers can, and they can tell that mine has some issue)
what i was hoping for was someone who is aware of what i'm talking about and could say yea...take your phone a part and do this to fix it...instead im getting this (see above)
who ever is in charge feel free to kill this thread because it's going no where fast!!!!
Per request thread closed. You can replace the keyboard if you want, though personally i'd pay someone to do that for you rather than trying it yourself if it's that big an issue. You could also try a warranty replacement if you're eligible.
Side Note: Senior members and should know better than to go around harrassing noobs with silly questions. It is the job of those who know more to educate those who know less. If you choose to not be helpful then it is much better to say nothing. No need to create drama where there wasn't any. Just a reminder to all.