Hello,
REALLY enjoying my new Tilt. Currently using my second ROM from the fine chefs here. Started off with Dutty's V1 19588, GPS worked fine. Now I have been using Garmin's DK2.1 Final Cleartype, but cannot get the GPS to connect to the satellites.
Currently when I run GPS Tool, the program loads and I select open to start the connection. Data starts coming in and I switch to the satellite page. After a minute or 2 a few satellites appear on the screen (3-4 red circles, along with the corresponding bars at the bottom, which I assume indicates signal strength). The signal strength bars never get above about half and none of the satellites ever connect to give my location.
What am I doing wrong? What settings do I need to check?
Thanks for your time.
Zack
similar problem here too.
I cant make to work garmin mobile XT after I updated to dutty's WM6.1 it cant find internal GPS it just keeps scanning blue tooth.
it was working great on WM6. is there something different on WM6.1? do I need to install something els to make internal GPS working?
0rius said:
Hello,
REALLY enjoying my new Tilt. Currently using my second ROM from the fine chefs here. Started off with Dutty's V1 19588, GPS worked fine. Now I have been using Garmin's DK2.1 Final Cleartype, but cannot get the GPS to connect to the satellites.
Currently when I run GPS Tool, the program loads and I select open to start the connection. Data starts coming in and I switch to the satellite page. After a minute or 2 a few satellites appear on the screen (3-4 red circles, along with the corresponding bars at the bottom, which I assume indicates signal strength). The signal strength bars never get above about half and none of the satellites ever connect to give my location.
What am I doing wrong? What settings do I need to check?
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Since the GPS is firing up and you're seeing satellites it sounds like your settings are correct. GPS performance can vary greatly among different radios. What radio were you running with Duttys? WHat radio do you have now? If the Dutty radio is compatible with Garmin DK2.1 try flashing it and see if it makes a difference. Otherwise check the radio thread in the ROM board and see which ones get mentioned for good GPS performance.
gio_zera said:
similar problem here too.
I cant make to work garmin mobile XT after I updated to dutty's WM6.1 it cant find internal GPS it just keeps scanning blue tooth.
it was working great on WM6. is there something different on WM6.1? do I need to install something els to make internal GPS working?
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Did you make any changes to the settings under "External GPS"? You don't want to touch that at all. The last info I knew (almost a year ago) was that if you changed those settings the only way to get the internal GPS recognized again was to do a hard reset. Hopefully there's an easier solution.
Will have to check which radio came with duttys, but the Radio I am using with Garmin DK2.1 is Neon 1.65.24.36, which was supposed to provided better overall GPS and phone performance. *shrug* Think I am going to give Garmin's new DKv31 a try then start playing with the radio.
Also do you recommend any specific GPS management program? Garmin comes with GPS Tools and Duttys came with GPS Test. I preferred the look of GPS test, but GPS Tools seems to provide more information.
Thanks again for the helpful reply!
This has been discussed several times.
I think one of the longuest thread on the subject can be found here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397728
Mainly, people think it is due to Radio version.
For me it started working again after urgrading the HardSPL.
You can see my config in my signature.
Good luck
These posts belong in the ROM thread, not here.
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Hi all,
Could you please, be kind and post you experience with TD's GPS...
Since I got my TD(4 days) I have not been able to test the GPS at all
I have loaded some soft that could help me here. ( I travel a lot between Korea and Japan). Cannot really use the phone here, but WIFI works great and I thought I would give the GPS a test run.....no luck YET..
TD's own: QuickGPS has downloaded(through WIFI) all the info and it is up to date......But how do I set up the GPS itself???
Phone did not come with preloaded GPS software so,I have loaded following soft on itnone of them would recognize the gps)
i.e. " no GPS found."
1.Google Navigator 3.4
2.GPSvp (http://gpsvp.com)
3.Effica GPS Utilities (http://www.efficasoft.com/gpsutilities/index_wm_ppc.html)
I would really like to test out the GPS here first.I am returning to EU (home) in october or november and I would like to use it there as well.
sorry for the bump
I tried the search...not just this forum but all of XDA.....I cannot seem to find one successful step-by step activation as of yet???
Nobody has internal GPS running on their TD??
Anyone?
Runs perfect and is good quality.
Make sure you let windows manage gps (in external GPS settings):
programport COM4
hardwareport none
and in last tap check the checkbox.
Programs find gps at Com4 at 19xxx baud.
THX RIEL
thank You for you reply.
Will try tommorow morning.
Riel said:
Runs perfect and is good quality.
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Don't you have a problem with the static navigation? This behavior "drives"
me nearly crazy, because beside of that, the GPS in TD is superb...
On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
My GPS is a pain in the arse, From what i have read its because of the static navigation. So far it says i live in house number 20 when I live in house number 16 and when i'm on route I'm yet to hear a " You have arrived at your destination" because its accuracy is off about 50 metres.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this very soon.
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
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Hey, have you got installed TomTom 7? I'm running TT7 and when I select "internal GPS receiver" it connects perfect. I know this doesn't exist in TT6, but I can also get my GPS running in TT7 if I set it to use a BT receiver on COM4 at 57600 baud. (Assuming you didn't mess around with the standard GPS settings, like HTC meant them to be )
Google maps is using the selection of "use windows settings".
racerx_ said:
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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Check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402039&highlight=static+navigation
and this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401833&highlight=static+navigation
hi guys
Same problem here. AGPS is disabled. I have tried Garmin,TomTom, iGo and google. 95% of the time it can not lock onto the sats. Once in a while it will work fine. Last night it picked up the sats in my bedroom on the second story and this morning outside in clear sky it found 4 sats but with very low signal and could not give me my cordinates, gave up after 15 min.
I have tried GPS tools and even that won't lock onto the sats. Data is upto date with quick gps.
So is it the hardware problem or has it to do something with radio? It can't be faulty TD because there are a lots of people with the same problem, and why lots of other users have no problems accessing the sats?
How is your gps working?
hi
great going sofar...thanks to all. We still have no real answers.
Let's keep this one going.
Looks like GPS is an issue with TD.
( Other than GPS...I am loving this sweet phone )
Now I am trying different roms to see if it is related to that. Will let you guys know if find anything.
Strange, on all ROMS my GPS reciever just works perfect.
Almost the best piece of hardware on the device
As I mentioned in Another topic, I use the GPS for TrackMe, at the same time I am navigation via Igo, and at the same time I showoff Google Maps with GPS support.
It functions very well!
Did you get the GPS-Fix downloads? It speeds up a lot.
Yes got the gps fix downloads but still no go. Still have not lost the hope. I hope its not some hardware problem.
I was fed up messing with mine, so I did a hard reset, and its sorted ...... for now!
same as Paulus
I did a hard reset....and it works perfect. No other adjustments done.
Tried the TomTom, Tracky Pro, GPS VP, and the HTC GPS Tool....all work no problem...outside I get a fix within a minute sometimes seconds.
I think one of the quirks that the TD's GPS has is that, when it's in Acquiring Satellites mode it doesn't seem to spit out any sort of status. The first time I noticed that I thought my internal GPS wasn't working, since with my external Holux unit I can see the satellites which the Holux was trying to lock onto.
Whereas with the TD's built in GPS it just snaps from nothing to.. acquired. So it's hard to see wheter it hasn't gotten a signal because it's in a poor area of reception or not. Usually I'll just try and stay still till I can get a lock.
got my pro the other day... and I have garmin loaded up, and its not finding a signal so I have spent most of my day reading all posts I can find relating to the GPS, I have used the GPS viewer and it finds the GPS and once it starts I can see it will not acquire my location I could leave it for 15 mins or so and it wont lock on, google maps will not work, nor with garmin, I have tried changing the ports from 4 to 1 and others but nothing seems to work.
does any one else have this issue, and have they over come it if so how i want to use my GPS...
thanks
set your band rate to 9600
still no good.
tried the GPS viewer google maps and Garmin again...
I have similar problem and what I did is to flash new radio. Currently, I am using 1.02.25.28 radio and seems like the GPS works fine now. It can lock on less then 1 minute in one space but the signal strength is vary from low to high quite fast (not stable).
I tried to navigate with this radio and turned out to be better than the original radio shipped with the unit. But, even with this radio, my old Kaiser GPS still performs better. When I use Kaiser, GPS lock in less than 10 seconds in open space.
BTW, the GPS software is Garmin Mobile XT.
Radio ROMS
Check this link out for various Radio ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
And this for flashing details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
I had the same problem, and I dont know if it is the same problem you are having but check your settings/personal/phone/services/location setting and turn on location setting and all my gps was working again.
jdignazio said:
I had the same problem, and I dont know if it is the same problem you are having but check your settings/personal/phone/services/location setting and turn on location setting and all my gps was working again.
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your explanation doesn't make sense at all
when i go to phone/services there is no such thing as location setting.
it lists my phone services such as call barring, caller Id, etc...
i'm using Chartcross GPS test 1.04 and set my com to 4 baud to 38400 and it is not working. Google Maps says no gps found.
i am on a stock AT&T Fuze rom... just got the phone yesterday
I also installed HTC GPS tool and those symbols and number mean nothing to me.
no real manual on how to use it unless you're technically saavy and have programming background
i also disabled AGPS like it is recommended all over this site.
*update*
my gps works now
uninstalled HTC GPS tool
also took out blackberry connect software. it seemed to be lagging my phone in general
liquidchrome said:
*update*
my gps works now
uninstalled HTC GPS tool
also took out blackberry connect software. it seemed to be lagging my phone in general
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yeah I find this to be the fastest fix. I run gpstoday, open port for gps using gpstoolpro take the step to set up gpstoday once your fix is established I set up my gpstoday app to search every 5 minute rather then staying connected due to battery. When I am ready to use my gps I load up quickGPS have it a establish a fix( average of 15 sec I have been testing it for a week and have gotten good results instants fix to a 15 second wait).once I establish a fix I load up my navigation app. a tip is to be outside or near a window when trying to find a fix. Keeping the port open does not drain the battery.
guevr001 said:
yeah I find this to be the fastest fix. I run gpstoday, open port for gps using gpstoolpro take the step to set up gpstoday once your fix is established I set up my gpstoday app to search every 5 minute rather then staying connected due to battery. When I am ready to use my gps I load up quickGPS have it a establish a fix( average of 15 sec I have been testing it for a week and have gotten good results instants fix to a 15 second wait).once I establish a fix I load up my navigation app. a tip is to be outside or near a window when trying to find a fix. Keeping the port open does not drain the battery.
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Um im running the stock at&t rom on my fuze and my tilt (but the tilt is upgraded to 6.1 by att) but um you almost had it right the answer was in the forum but mixed into a few posts. Ok so when you go to google maps click menu then click Options then gps settings and go to manual then choose com : 4 then use 9600 and bam it works on both the tilt and the fuze with stock rom's.
ryan00793 said:
Um im running the stock at&t rom on my fuze and my tilt (but the tilt is upgraded to 6.1 by att) but um you almost had it right the answer was in the forum but mixed into a few posts. Ok so when you go to google maps click menu then click Options then gps settings and go to manual then choose com : 4 then use 9600 and bam it works on both the tilt and the fuze with stock rom's.
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no i didnt miss it. I have tried that aswell but I guess its what ever works
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
rxdrift7 said:
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
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Try another radio! Radio has alot to do with your GPS fix, big time!
phone info
well i'm using pc.ultimate.v10 wwe and the 1.65.14.06 radio. any advice what combination?
rxdrift7 said:
well i'm using pc.ultimate.v10 wwe and the 1.65.14.06 radio. any advice what combination?
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The tricky thing with radios is that they are different for every ROM, location and provider! So realy the only thing to do is try acouple out! Or go to the Ultimate Radio thread and read to see if someone from your area has recomended one or two! Here is the link to the thread! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Where are you located? If you are by me than I can recomend a couple!
location
i'm southern california
rxdrift7 said:
i'm southern california
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Ok, thats far away and much warmer than Minesota! Yea I dont know any for California! There should be some suggestions in hte radio thread though! Sorry, wish I could help you more!
not sure if there's a difference, but on my device, i have set it to com 4 and 9600 and things seem to work fine here in Malaysia and in my travels to Indonesia.
my first GPS lock took some time and doing, and i finally got it working after i ran this "GPS Test" program. Forgot the original thread & poster i found it here, but here's a post with the same. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374349
I had a similar problem. Not being comfortable flashing another radio, I tried a program called Franson GPSGate. It allowed me to use mulitiple programs that utilize the GPS signal at the same time through the same COM port.
I also get fizes in under 15 seconds when I have GPSGate running first. (it primes the GPS signal and keeps it ready for programs that need it). Just another option.
agreed
GPSGate is a great program. Trialware though. I have started tinkering with a program called "AmazeGPS" that will give you turn-by turn directions, and update your route as you travel, unlike google maps. definetly not as handy as google maps for local searches though. best used if you have an address already. The Radio on your phone does affect GPS, as well as all the other connectivity areas (data, phone, bluetooth, and even wifi, i think). if you are looking for something with good connectivity, 1.71.09.01 is an awesome choice. the tradeoff is that it is a bit of a battery hog. i am assuming that you will be using this in a vehicle or something, as gps itself is a battery hog, and if you plan on using it frequently, you probably have it plugged in somewhere. I live in Arizona, by the way. hope this helps!
Try the attached program, if you are able to see the satellite signal...
I live San Diego, using the PC.Ultimate.V16 rom with Tomtom7. I have my GPS configuration with other NMEA GPS, 57600 baud rate, COM4 and I get a connection in 15 seconds.
I think this question was just asked in another thread.... use GPSTest and then when it acquires a signal open up TTN6 or 7 annoying I know but it works for quite a few people
Excellent
Nice the GPStest, now i try to make functionally mi Googlemaps...
Tks
Here is my advice... I get that same problem sometime in my TomTom (I used to use 6.. but now using TomTom 7)... I installed that GPS Toggle that is a start menu item... It is nice.. it says GPS OFF or GPS ON.. When you turn it on, it says "SEEK : XX" XX beign the number of sats it is searching for... Then when it gets a lock it says "LOCK : XX" and also shows how many "bars" you have.... Sometimes I use it to just test out the GPS function w/o loading TomTom... But I have also found if I turn the GPS ON with it before loading TomTom it locks on faster (a lot faster)... I think it sort of jump starts the GPS chip to lock on faster... It is the same software you have to use if you have a HTC Mogul and want to use TomTom (For some reason TomTom doesn't see the GPS chip in that phone w/o this little program or something simmilar)...
I attached the one I use as a cab.. Just copy it over to your storage card... use file explorer and run the cab file... Then after it is installed do a soft reset... You may have to go into the Today screen options in settings and put a check infront of it to see it on the screen... Hope this helps
rxdrift7 said:
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
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... so guys i need your help with this...
I installed the newest HTC-Rom onto my XDA Diamond and the: 1.11.25.01 Radio. everything works fine instead of the GPS.
I tried with iGO Navigator 8 and TomTom Navigator 7 both programs recognize the included GPS but both don't get any Signal through it...
I dont know what to do know please help me... and is it possible to fix that WITHOUT any hardresets because i want to keep my configuration...
Are u sure there is no signal ? What I'm saying is that...even though you don't see signal (especially happens to me with SU Radio's) it still works. At least for me it does. Even when I don't see a signal what eventually happens is that it give me the coordinates from the satellite side and if you start to move you will hopefully your map will show this too.
If this doesn't work get Config. 3.3 and make sure that GPS is disabled.
Or
Just change your radio........doesn't hard reset your phone and non required after you flash. Hope you hard reset your ROM after the flash though!
when i try to use TomTom Navigator...
it hungs at: Waiting for GPS Signal, so i think there is noch signal at all..
which radio version should i try ??
Currently I'm back with 1.09.25.23 but all the Security Unlocked radio's had this symptom of not displaying the signal but it was there.
First time use of an app using gps takes a long time to get a gps fix.
It can take up to 20 min.
And make sure you're outside AAAHAHAHAHA
Try running quick GPS
band27 said:
Currently I'm back with 1.09.25.23 but all the Security Unlocked radio's had this symptom of not displaying the signal but it was there.
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this solves my problem!
Excellent.....glad to hear!
I have been using TomTom7 on my diamond for almost a year. First several months it was working fine, just some lags or freezes on roundabouts, which was not a big issue.
Then it started doing this strange behaviour at some occasions: I start TomTom, it finds satellites fairly quickly, I start driving, all fine. Then after some distance it loses coordinates (you can see the blue arrow, but everything behind it is grey and it is not following the route). Sometimes it fixes itself for a short time, then does it again. Sometimes this is all, whatever you do (reroute, restart tomtom, restart phone) it won't come back. Some days none of this happens.
Nothing in configuration had changed, I've been using the same radio and rom for almost a year.
I was really annoyed by this, could not simply rely on tomtom. Now I updated the ROM, and yesterday this happened again
If this was discussed before, please point me in the right direction, most of the threads I found by search were about lags or configuration.
It might be the Quick GPS Programs, I recall having a simular problem where the GPS would work for about 5 minutes then turn off, only turning the phone off then on then running up tomtom again would get another fix, only for it to run for a further 5 mins or so.
I think I disabled the quick GPS in the registry using PHM registry editor or something simular.
It might be worth considering updating the ROM. I'm running BsB's which seems much better than the stock offerings.
I've also had this problem with the latest rom from HTC (regular rom) with the radio 1.09.XX
I've updated to radio 1.15 and the problem is gone.
Thanks for you replies.
I've now updated the radio to one of the latest (1.09.25.23), the ROM was already recent (2.07 Gen.Y). Will test it during the week.
The solution based around disabling of Quick GPS - wouldn' it make the start up time longer ?
gonx_me said:
I've updated to radio 1.15 ..
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I have tried to install this radio, but got "Invalid Device Id" message, 1.09 installed with no problems. The phone is security unlocked, could not understand what was the issue and just moved on .. :-/
Could be error in timezone
Hi all,
I had a similar problem and it appears to be the timezone, by reasons unknown my Diamond was set to a timezone of Stockholm, now that looks ok, but it is not a normal timezone.
I changed it to Stockholm, Berlin, ... the standard timezone and once again I got a fix fast and easy.
The thing that you get a gray screen is that you our somewere in the middle of the earth according to the GPS, you notice this if you could see the coordinates and altitude.
I have iGo in my Diamond, but the problem was the same when using Google maps so it wasn't a problem with the program.
I have also changed my iGo to have a manually selected time zone, because I'm not sure if it might be iGo that made the change for me.
But now all my GPS works splendid, and I have a fix within 15 seconds.
i do have similar problems.. but it only happens when i'm in the dense core of downtown toronto where all the tall buildings are..
I think it's because the tall buildings are blocking the signal somewhat that is why your GPS kept on running out or coordinates and relocating itself again
bigbro168 said:
I think it's because the tall buildings are blocking the signal somewhat that is why your GPS kept on running out or coordinates and relocating itself again
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I am in rural Scotland actually, the only high buildings here are castles which are miles away .. so this must be something different.
Neither it seems to be dependent on the sky nor battery level ...
p.s. testing new radio, so far so good ..
Just some feedback from testing: the original problem seems to be solved, but now I've got something much worse - sometimes TomTom freezes several second after the launch, and nothing can be done apart from restarting to bring it back. Don't know if this is a radio's or ROM's issue as I have changed both. Reinstalling TomTom from .cab did not help.
Anyone had similar experience ?
Just some feedback from testing: the original problem seems to be solved, but now I've got something much worse - sometimes TomTom freezes several second after the launch, and nothing can be done apart from restarting to bring it back. Don't know if this is a radio's or ROM's issue as I have changed both. Reinstalling TomTom from .cab did not help.
Anyone had similar experience ?
Hard reset maybe will help
Yes it may, but 3 days before holiday I do not want to be installing everything from scratch. I could try another ROM too if not this.
Tried - atifix, starting with bluetootsh on, wanted to reconfigure GPS setting in TomTom, but can't get there yet ... must be either BT or GPS connectivity
Yes it may, but 3 days before holiday I do not want to be installing everything from scratch. I could try another ROM too if not this.
Tried - atifix, starting with bluetootsh on, wanted to reconfigure GPS setting in TomTom, but can't get there yet ... must be either BT or GPS connectivity
Updated radio to the latest 1.15.25.14 with 1.15.25.35 rilphone, made no difference at all ..
I think I found it - G-Profile service was the cause of the problem. Once I stopped it, TomTom has got 100% starting rate. It's a pity, was a nice small app to have.