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GPS Problem

Hello,
REALLY enjoying my new Tilt. Currently using my second ROM from the fine chefs here. Started off with Dutty's V1 19588, GPS worked fine. Now I have been using Garmin's DK2.1 Final Cleartype, but cannot get the GPS to connect to the satellites.
Currently when I run GPS Tool, the program loads and I select open to start the connection. Data starts coming in and I switch to the satellite page. After a minute or 2 a few satellites appear on the screen (3-4 red circles, along with the corresponding bars at the bottom, which I assume indicates signal strength). The signal strength bars never get above about half and none of the satellites ever connect to give my location.
What am I doing wrong? What settings do I need to check?
Thanks for your time.
Zack

similar problem here too.
I cant make to work garmin mobile XT after I updated to dutty's WM6.1 it cant find internal GPS it just keeps scanning blue tooth.
it was working great on WM6. is there something different on WM6.1? do I need to install something els to make internal GPS working?

0rius said:
Hello,
REALLY enjoying my new Tilt. Currently using my second ROM from the fine chefs here. Started off with Dutty's V1 19588, GPS worked fine. Now I have been using Garmin's DK2.1 Final Cleartype, but cannot get the GPS to connect to the satellites.
Currently when I run GPS Tool, the program loads and I select open to start the connection. Data starts coming in and I switch to the satellite page. After a minute or 2 a few satellites appear on the screen (3-4 red circles, along with the corresponding bars at the bottom, which I assume indicates signal strength). The signal strength bars never get above about half and none of the satellites ever connect to give my location.
What am I doing wrong? What settings do I need to check?
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Since the GPS is firing up and you're seeing satellites it sounds like your settings are correct. GPS performance can vary greatly among different radios. What radio were you running with Duttys? WHat radio do you have now? If the Dutty radio is compatible with Garmin DK2.1 try flashing it and see if it makes a difference. Otherwise check the radio thread in the ROM board and see which ones get mentioned for good GPS performance.

gio_zera said:
similar problem here too.
I cant make to work garmin mobile XT after I updated to dutty's WM6.1 it cant find internal GPS it just keeps scanning blue tooth.
it was working great on WM6. is there something different on WM6.1? do I need to install something els to make internal GPS working?
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Did you make any changes to the settings under "External GPS"? You don't want to touch that at all. The last info I knew (almost a year ago) was that if you changed those settings the only way to get the internal GPS recognized again was to do a hard reset. Hopefully there's an easier solution.

Will have to check which radio came with duttys, but the Radio I am using with Garmin DK2.1 is Neon 1.65.24.36, which was supposed to provided better overall GPS and phone performance. *shrug* Think I am going to give Garmin's new DKv31 a try then start playing with the radio.
Also do you recommend any specific GPS management program? Garmin comes with GPS Tools and Duttys came with GPS Test. I preferred the look of GPS test, but GPS Tools seems to provide more information.
Thanks again for the helpful reply!

This has been discussed several times.
I think one of the longuest thread on the subject can be found here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397728
Mainly, people think it is due to Radio version.
For me it started working again after urgrading the HardSPL.
You can see my config in my signature.
Good luck

These posts belong in the ROM thread, not here.

Problem in getting Garmin XT to work on my Kaiser

Hallo All Gurus,
I'm trying out Garmin Mobile XT for WindowsMobile V4.20.50w with my TyTnII using Malsing's map (named as gmapsupp). I followed all recommended installation procedures installed Garmin XT and mailsing map in SD card \Garmin. But when I execute Garmin XT, I couldn't get it work and I noticed:-
a) when I'm at "GPS Info", it keep showing me "Acquiring Satellities"
b) In view map mode" keep showing "Searching for Satellites"
c) When I keyed in a address and hit GO or "Where Am I", it keep showing "Awaiting Better GPS Accuracy"...
I also noticed my GPS signal level only show 1 small bar and "GPS info" mode showed me only 1-2 satellite icon on the circle.. I never able to get 5 bars..
Tried many days and still can't get it works...
Before I use Garmin, my MapKing works fine...
Any guru can show me anything I missed out...?
Thanks in advance...
PS: I based in Singapore

ahchek said:
Hallo All Gurus,
I'm trying out Garmin Mobile XT for WindowsMobile V4.20.50w with my TyTnII using Malsing's map (named as gmapsupp). I followed all recommended installation procedures installed Garmin XT and mailsing map in SD card \Garmin. But when I execute Garmin XT, I couldn't get it work and I noticed:-
a) when I'm at "GPS Info", it keep showing me "Acquiring Satellities"
b) In view map mode" keep showing "Searching for Satellites"
c) When I keyed in a address and hit GO or "Where Am I", it keep showing "Awaiting Better GPS Accuracy"...
I also noticed my GPS signal level only show 1 small bar and "GPS info" mode showed me only 1-2 satellite icon on the circle.. I never able to get 5 bars..
Tried many days and still can't get it works...
Before I use Garmin, my MapKing works fine...
Any guru can show me anything I missed out...?
Thanks in advance...
PS: I based in Singapore
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Garmin MXT only works with Garmin GPS receiver i.e. Garmin 10X .. or u can purchase the Garmin microSD and your internal GPS can be used..
p/s: unl
Good luck

pcboyy said:
Garmin MXT only works with Garmin GPS receiver i.e. Garmin 10X .. or u can purchase the Garmin microSD and your internal GPS can be used..
p/s: unl
Good luck
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ERM i have mobile xt running on my kaiser fine without a stand alone without a garmin 10x. from what i have heard he just isnt waiting long enough to get a sat signal. in the start screen were view map and were to go are located there is a 5 bars in top left hand side and untill they are green nothing will work and if you go to gps info you need at least 5 sat's to get a lock but just wait longer as it runs fine on mine just takes like 3-8 mins to get a lock depending on weather and radio.

vj4 said:
ERM i have mobile xt running on my kaiser fine without a stand alone without a garmin 10x. from what i have heard he just isnt waiting long enough to get a sat signal. in the start screen were view map and were to go are located there is a 5 bars in top left hand side and untill they are green nothing will work and if you go to gps info you need at least 5 sat's to get a lock but just wait longer as it runs fine on mine just takes like 3-8 mins to get a lock depending on weather and radio.
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yes, thats it, also u can run quickgps before launching garmin.

Thanks you guys for all advise.. True that I have difficulties in acquiring satellites due to bad weather, very thick cloud.. I managed to get through successfully once yesterday evening.. But, when I tried this morning, again it start "Awaiting for GPS accuracy"...
Need your further advice:-
a) When compare to my friend's HTC Diamond, he can obtain GPS much faster, almost within 1-2 mins.
Do I need to get Quick GPS activated every time I use garmin XT?
b) Why those Satellites that I searched all lost after I closed the garmin?
c) I just upgrade to WM6.1, is this one of the factor?
Appreciate any further kind advice please.

ahchek said:
Thanks you guys for all advise.. True that I have difficulties in acquiring satellites due to bad weather, very thick cloud.. I managed to get through successfully once yesterday evening.. But, when I tried this morning, again it start "Awaiting for GPS accuracy"...
Need your further advice:-
a) When compare to my friend's HTC Diamond, he can obtain GPS much faster, almost within 1-2 mins.
Do I need to get Quick GPS activated every time I use garmin XT?
b) Why those Satellites that I searched all lost after I closed the garmin?
c) I just upgrade to WM6.1, is this one of the factor?
Appreciate any further kind advice please.
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I had the same issue after upgrading to WM6.1.
Then I upgraded to HardSPL 3.56 and Radio 1.70.x.x, L26 v12 ROM.. all is well now

dvn2008 said:
I had the same issue after upgrading to WM6.1.
Then I upgraded to HardSPL 3.56 and Radio 1.70.x.x, L26 v12 ROM.. all is well now
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Hi dvn,
What is HardSPL 3.56 and Radio 1.70.x.x, L26 v12?? ROM updates? Where to find? Same installation as WM6.1?? Sorry I am not sure of all these ROM stuffs..
Appreciate your kind pointer please.
Thanks.

ahchek said:
Thanks you guys for all advise.. True that I have difficulties in acquiring satellites due to bad weather, very thick cloud.. I managed to get through successfully once yesterday evening.. But, when I tried this morning, again it start "Awaiting for GPS accuracy"...
Need your further advice:-
a) When compare to my friend's HTC Diamond, he can obtain GPS much faster, almost within 1-2 mins.
Do I need to get Quick GPS activated every time I use garmin XT?
b) Why those Satellites that I searched all lost after I closed the garmin?
c) I just upgrade to WM6.1, is this one of the factor?
Appreciate any further kind advice please.
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As far as i know a different hard spl will not help i have used 3 differnt hard spl's and it has never affected me. a new radio will help this is were your problem will be! quick gps only needs to be run once a week make sure you dont have ur ip dummied to another country as this will make it useless. click download when connected to wifi or gprs/hsdpa if your lucky enough to be happy and afford to pay for your internet. it should get you a file that lasts for 6days 23 hours. wm6.1 has nothing to do with it. you will not get a fix inside your house flat shed etc you need to be out side or in a car (with phone on dashboard) so basicly the phone needs a clear view of sky. based on what you have said i would change my radio its all in the wiki I cannot recommend one to you as i am in the UK and different one's work better in different places. so try a few and see what works best. garmin forgets the satilites it connected to last time because you turned ur gps reciver of so it isnt connected to them and unless you restart garmin straight away the satalites are not in the same place in the sky so it has to relocate them(this is the same for every one)

ok mine is quite funny case.. if i use GMXT, the satellites will take looong time to be locked.. i tried GPSProxy (its a software) and run it 1st.. perghhh.. now it takes only 20sec to lock (with GPSProxy) and i continue to use my GMXT

pcboyy said:
ok mine is quite funny case.. if i use GMXT, the satellites will take looong time to be locked.. i tried GPSProxy (its a software) and run it 1st.. perghhh.. now it takes only 20sec to lock (with GPSProxy) and i continue to use my GMXT
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Hi pcboyy,
Just only GPSproxy?? When I install it, it prompted me for some more files related to Net...
When I activated GPSproxy, I .. a lot of setting.. how to??? Appreciate your helps...

ahchek said:
Hi pcboyy,
Just only GPSproxy?? When I install it, it prompted me for some more files related to Net...
When I activated GPSproxy, I .. a lot of setting.. how to??? Appreciate your helps...
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simple steps but hard to explain.. kindly refer here
http://www.malsingmaps.com/wiki/index.php/All_about_GPSProxy
pls try and let us know your result

GPS Problem

Hi,
I am using the original ROM 1.93 and I have installed Destinator 7 with Greek maps (2008). I don't know why, but the GPS loses its signal instantly and then everything is fine. This happens after a certain number of seconds and it is repeated.
Does anyone know hot to fix this?
Thank you.

GPS problem
tsthanos said:
Hi,
I am using the original ROM 1.93 and I have installed Destinator 7 with Greek maps (2008). I don't know why, but the GPS loses its signal instantly and then everything is fine. This happens after a certain number of seconds and it is repeated.
Does anyone know hot to fix this?
Thank you.
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I have had the same thing.
Turn OFF your AGPS with advance config.
If that doens't help, give it a hard reset.
cor

try with radio .07 (you wont loose anything), it catches gps signal quiker...
bye,
davide

Here is my experience, where I noticed the GPS problems disappear completely.
From day 1, when I got my Diamong, first thing I did, without testing the GPS with shipped older official ROM, was to flash to SwiftBL ROM ... great ROM I have to say. But then I noticed that I had fix-no-fix-fix-no-fix (lags) problem, as well as the fixing itself taking up to 10-15 minutes. I tried newer SwiftBL ROMS, tried switching A-GPS, tried using .07 and .08 radios .... nothing, problem persisted.
I went back to .05 radio, and this time flashed with Dutty's Full v2 ROM ... very very fast and neat ROM. The ROM has A-GPS switched off from start. I did one hard-reset after flashing ROM, as Dutty recommends, and guess what ... no lags and fix within 10-20 seconds.
What was the problem .... I sinserely do not know, whether the combination of ROM+Radio+A-GPS! ..... main thing being now my GPS is fast at fixing, signal quality high and no lags.
Hope this helps.

cpootjes, because of the work load I managed to visit the site today!!
I activated A-GPS after a hard reset. I didn't even think that this could be a problem! However, I will test it and I will post the result..
Thanks anyway..

cpootjes, having activated A-GPS caused the problem (as you told me)..
Thanks again !!

Folks, since you have Destinator 7 installed and running, I hope you can help me... I cannot get mey Destinator Portal to see my internal storage, so I can install my maps there. Any suggestion ?

Diamond GPS Issues

Recently I updated to the SwiftBL 7.0 Full 16PP. As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
Then I close TomTom and start QuickGPS and update it (it is still valid for 6 days and more). After this update there is no problem with Tomtom anymore.
This updating I have to do every time I want to use Tomtom.
I'm just sitting in the car and not in the bathroom, so the gps is not the problem. I'm having this problem for a week now.
Does somebody else have this problem too? Is there a solution?

Mickbravo said:
Recently I updated to the SwiftBL 7.0 Full 16PP. As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
Then I close TomTom and start QuickGPS and update it (it is still valid for 6 days and more). After this update there is no problem with Tomtom anymore.
This updating I have to do every time I want to use Tomtom.
I'm just sitting in the car and not in the bathroom, so the gps is not the problem. I'm having this problem for a week now.
Does somebody else have this problem too? Is there a solution?
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Try holding it up next to the window or use an in-car cradle. This has happened to me when I hold it next to my lap in the car I cant even get a fix. When I hold it next to the window I get a highly accurate fix.

I have a cradle stuck on the window. Before (for 3 months) I did not have a problem.
Or my hardware is braking down or there might be a issue with the ROM. Also f*ckup on my part is possible ofcourse.
But I wanted to know if I was the only one that had this problem. Until now I think I am.

i have gps problem too but i think using htc tools solve it for me so far...use the clear memory option together with nav init and wait for mode 2d fix.Try tis to see if its work?

Please mention which radio version your are using. Please update your radio to Radio v1.00.25.07. This is the best version for the GPS

Skele said:
Please mention which radio version your are using. Please update your radio to Radio v1.00.25.07. This is the best version for the GPS
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im on .08....Hmm....is .07 really the best for gps?i was using tat before tis...

ninja_pimp said:
im on .08....Hmm....is .07 really the best for gps?i was using tat before tis...
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I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?

Skele said:
I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?
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bro u gotta clear ur gps memory when u change radio if not it wun get a fix

Skele said:
I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?
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i find .08 better but i still testing it now

Mickbravo said:
As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
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I have the same problem.
My solution : soft-reset my device.
I'll try another solution : disable the A-GPS.
If anybody has another solution...
(I don't want to change my radio because of the warranty)

A-GPS
I had that same problem with iGO. Disabling A-GPS did the trick.

Likewise with Tomtom. A-GPS is the guilty party.

Having the same problem in Igo 8. The problem is that the program looses the GPS in 5-15 seconds all the time. Igo sais that it is loosing not the signal but it losses the GPS module. The only cure i found is a hard reset or going into flight mode. In flight mode the GPS works perfectly. Tested on 2 Diamonds. Any suggestions except flashing the radio??

Marchell said:
Having the same problem in Igo 8. The problem is that the program looses the GPS in 5-15 seconds all the time. Igo sais that it is loosing not the signal but it losses the GPS module. The only cure i found is a hard reset or going into flight mode. In flight mode the GPS works perfectly. Tested on 2 Diamonds. Any suggestions except flashing the radio??
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100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config

Thats weird I got my XDA Ignito yesterday, put tomtom 7.450, in advance config it had a-gps disabled, but TomTom would not pick up anything.
I thought I try to enable it and it suddenly started working and it was working indoors too.
Thanks for all the info.

WhiteCell said:
100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config
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thanks a lot, i`ll try.

Yes that did the trick. I did put an other ROM on my Diamond so I fixed it by accident but now I know the reason. Thanks.

i cant get a fix on .08, reverting back to .05 or i will try .07

WhiteCell said:
100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config
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Yes! Exactly! I have seen same problem as topic starter. Also If I check "GPS status" by TomTom menu, it always lost and found GPS device every 5-10 sec. Only one think helps - start Google maps app, enable GPS, then Google map quickly found satellite I start TomTom and TomTom work fine till closing.
After disabling A-Gps, now TomTom work perfectly.

Garmin GPS

After i install the Garmin GPS, device cannot search the satelite? it is my device or ROM cause this problem? Because it work before i flash the new ROM.
And one problem is my internet explorer can display the websites toolbar but cannot click or select it? Do i need to update any other ROM or Component?

which ROM?

5.07.707.2 WWE
This ROM is from Official HTC Websites.

you might want to START READING HERE if you havent yet.

thanks bro

i m using Garmin GPS as well, and it just work fine for me after i flashed the roms, at first after i flashed it, same problem occur, but after when i checked and look into detail, actually it's working, just the signal strength icon in the Garmin GPS isn't increasing and always remains in the red signal, maybe you can check out with it first after updating ur QuickGPS and try it at the outdoor... hope this helps...

Just want to share my Garmin in HTC TP. Having trouble to begin with after upgrade my device from TyTN II
Use the radio 1.12.25.19
Open the Garmin and change the Remote GPS to GPS Intermediate Driver. This solved the missing signal bars on the main screen problem.
On the main screen just click the signal bars - then click the "Disable" button
Click the "GPS Intermediate Driver" and then click "Enable" button.
Enable Advance GPS
Hope helps - just my 2 cents

radio after rom
i dont know if this pertains to you, but your talking about flashing a rom and gps not working afterward, so it might. Every time i flash a new rom my gps stops working. As soon as i reflash the same radio i already had, everything kicks back in and works just fine. I dont know if it actually helps to reflash the radio every time you flash a rom but it seems to help.

brahmanto said:
Just want to share my Garmin in HTC TP. Having trouble to begin with after upgrade my device from TyTN II
Use the radio 1.12.25.19
Open the Garmin and change the Remote GPS to GPS Intermediate Driver. This solved the missing signal bars on the main screen problem.
On the main screen just click the signal bars - then click the "Disable" button
Click the "GPS Intermediate Driver" and then click "Enable" button.
Enable Advance GPS
Hope helps - just my 2 cents
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OMG. brahmanto !! u jus fixed my Garmin missing signal bars problems which has been with my for months!! I love you man !! Thanks a lot !!

Hypes420 said:
i dont know if this pertains to you, but your talking about flashing a rom and gps not working afterward, so it might. Every time i flash a new rom my gps stops working. As soon as i reflash the same radio i already had, everything kicks back in and works just fine. I dont know if it actually helps to reflash the radio every time you flash a rom but it seems to help.
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After flashing radio you should check whether in Settings/System/External GPS/Access is checked "Manage GPS automatically". If not, check it.

There's a hotfix for this in HTC Website.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570

There's a hotfix for this in HTC Website.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570