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GPS has died

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I've got a UK T-Mobile Vario III.
I've updated my ROM and radio a couple of times and have now discovered that my GPS isn't working. To try to fix this, I've reverted to old ROMs and radios but nothing seems to get the GPS going again. When I load up the GPS Tool and click open, no messages appear in the window at all. I seem to recall that when my GPS was working, messages would appear as soon as I clicked open, even if I was indoors and there was no chance of a signal getting through.
Radios I've tried are: 1.27.12.11 (my original radio), 1.27.12.17 and 1.27.12.32.
So it seems as if the GPS hardware is dead at the moment. Can someone suggest something that I can do to fix this?
Many thanks in advance!

I had a hiccup with the GPS lately. I installed and ran "GPSTest" and it helped sort things out for me
It may take 3-30 minutes to get a HDOP score (as mentioned in the linked post), but at least you'll know your GPS receiver is functioning properly.
mdh

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783504#post1783504

Thanks for your replies. Something is definitely wrong as when I run GPS Test, it scans the com ports numerous times and then gives up and tells me the GPS is off. This is so annoying!

start gp test.start your navigation prog.go to gps settings,go to built in gps,use manual settings, use com 4, baud 4800.go outside then try.this worked for me
ive used this on tmobile and o2.both devices are now working fine with gps.

Download Franson GPSGate. It will force start the GPS. You can start & end sessions with it at will pretty much. It's also great because it allows you to use many GPS programs at once.
If you can't find it PM me & I'll upload for you. It's free to use in standard mode w/o internet tracking, server connections, etc...

I think there must be something more fundamental wrong. I've installed GPSGate and when I selected "wired or in built GPS", it is unable to find anything. It looks as if I'm going to have to get this repaired unless anyone has any other ideas...

Have you tried running uickgps to give the gps a kick start?

GSLEON3 said:
Have you tried running uickgps to give the gps a kick start?
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Yes, I've tried QuickGPS but no joy. But because GPSGate can't even detect the hardware, I think it's more of a problem than just not being able to get a fix. It's almost as if the driver or something isn't working.

You may want to check all the registry entries for the GPS. There is a link at the bottom of the Wiki that lays them out for you.

Having done hard resets and also reflashed the ROM, I don't think it can be a registry problem. Pretty sure it must be a hardware problem so it looks as if I'm going to have to get it repaired :-(

Clutching at straws here but could it be down to the fact that I flashed Schapp's WM 6.1 to the phone? I notice that a number of official 6.1 builds require a newer radio so perhaps flashing Schapps changed something else and now (even though I've gone back to 6.0) GPS will only work with one of the newer radios?

i have the same exact problem and it also started after i flashed schapps wm 6.1!!! ekhh did u find any solution?? thanks

omaralt said:
i have the same exact problem and it also started after i flashed schapps wm 6.1!!! ekhh did u find any solution?? thanks
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Exactly same problem here. I flashed Schapps 6.1 ROM and the GPS is DEAD. I'm thinking about sending it in for service.
Anybody has any ideas?

the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky

omaralt said:
the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
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Strange that yours works with 6.1 as the other posts all seem to have the same problem with the GPS completely dead. Sounds as if the 6.1 flashes to a part of the ROM that the 6.0 ROMs don't flash to. Surely must be reversible, I'll post a message in the Schaps 6.1 thread. Fingers crossed...!

omaralt said:
the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
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Omaralt, you da man. Worked perfectly. Even my miomap works this time with schaps 6.1 rom (which it previously didn't). Thanks a lot.

omaralt said:
the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
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I don't think that this is true - I flashed several WM6.1 roms (and their radios), ending up with Sleuths, but after a while I noticed that it took considerably longer to get a GPS fix.
I returned to Duttys v4 with radio 1..27.12.32 and GPS is working fine and gets a fix as fast as before.
I don't know what the original problem was but in general I found it took longer to get a fix for all WM6.1 roms.
Dutty seems to have a 'team' of great beta testers helping him with his roms and I'm sure that one of them will notice this with his current private beta roms. If so then expect a fix soon.

its not about taking time, when i open up any of the gps programs (gps fix, etc), it doesnt even find the gps! it scans all the com ports, and when it gets to com4 the gps light comes on, but then it scans the other com ports and then tells me no gps found. if i put teh settigns on com4 it'll spend a few mins "looking for gps device" and then say gps off. by upgrading back to 6.1 it works now...

Try a other RADIO ROM
I think it has all to do with the RADIO ROM....

GPS can not find satellites

Hi.to everybody in this forum.I have an HTC Diamond previously locked to Orange Uk now unlocked to all networks ....with your help.
But I face a great problem!!
GPS is not locating satellites at all!!!
Before you ask me if I have read through out the forum, YES I DID (A LOT).
I tried everything, HTC GPS tool , GPS TEST , hard resets ,soft resets ,mpla mpla .....everything...but no result.
CAN you help??PLSSSS
My Htc comes with the new ROm 1.93

you didn't get a fix from the beginning or was it already working once?
what app are u using?
the gps i configured correctly?
app sees the GPS module?
start in this way, then we can talk...

I had same problem ,after my provider update (the radio maybe) it solve the problem. check what is your radio version and tell us..

g-fall said:
you didn't get a fix from the beginning or was it already working once?
what app are u using?
the gps i configured correctly?
app sees the GPS module?
start in this way, then we can talk...
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Never worked from beginning!
I use destinator 7,all settings are correct and the most strange of all is that application actually can see the GPS module in COM4!!

arix said:
I had same problem ,after my provider update (the radio maybe) it solve the problem. check what is your radio version and tell us..
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ROM:1.93.405.1 WWE
RADIO:1.00.25.05
I hope i dont have to get involved into this since the phone was bought from ebay (UK) and I leave in Greece!!.Now phone is unlocked and I think I will not be able to contact Orange network for update.

I don't know what I had b4, but now mine is:
ROM:1.93.456.2 WWE
RADIO:1.00.25.05
Seems like your ROM version is kinda old,
Maybe one of the guru here can help you,
or update your ROM by yourself (your own risk)

com port 4, baud 57600, gps enables - this is what i use in iGO8 and works perfect
what is set in "setings->system->External GPS"? Here you can find some settings also
programs - com4
hardware - GPS HWport none , baude 4800
access - tick manage GPS automatically

g-fall said:
com port 4, baud 57600, gps enables - this is what i use in iGO8 and works perfect
what is set in "setings->system->External GPS"? Here you can find some settings also
programs - com4
hardware - GPS HWport none , baude 4800
access - tick manage GPS automatically
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Those are the settings I have as well!!

I lost gps functionality after flashing to a new ROM.
Radio .07 and doing a "warm start" in htc gps tools got it working again, now from cold (ie initialising device to getting lock) is 25 seconds. (20 seconds to initialize gps, 5 seconds to get a lock!)

Try using gps gate,it will automatically configure gps settings and then start destinator,it should detect the inbuilt gps receiver and give you a fix,I had exactly the same problem with destinator 7, it just would not detect gps after using gps gate everythings fine,hope this helps.

arvind09 said:
Try using gps gate,it will automatically configure gps settings and then start destinator,it should detect the inbuilt gps receiver and give you a fix,I had exactly the same problem with destinator 7, it just would not detect gps after using gps gate everythings fine,hope this helps.
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How do I use the gps gate? Where do I have to go at first place?
ok found it ..I will try this as well.

Please update your radio to .07. I had the problem of not getting a fix. The GPS Info showed many satellites but none would get a fix. I went for a radio update to .07 & now, even when the GPS signal is in RED I get navigation working.... perfectly. Touch wood

Skele said:
Please update your radio to .07. I had the problem of not getting a fix. The GPS Info showed many satellites but none would get a fix. I went for a radio update to .07 & now, even when the GPS signal is in RED I get navigation working.... perfectly. Touch wood
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I am using GPSGATE now to try it out.I have already downloaded radio 07 and it will be my next move if gpsgate is no use

babis5570 said:
I am using GPSGATE now to try it out.I have already downloaded radio 07 and it will be my next move if gpsgate is no use
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gpsgate did not work either!!!!
I am trying to update Radio to 07 with RUU but it just stays in 0%.
Any help plssss????

Changed the radio but still the same .It will not find any satellites.Maybe the gps chipset is %^$%$#.

ok, your GPS module is detcted, right?
In GPS test, can you see signal of satelites or not?

Flash your radio again and do intermediate hard reset before phone fully boots. If doesn't work flash both rom and radio (hard reset after each!). Just had the same problem on my diamond (solved today) and had it in the past on Kaiser. GPS detected, gps tool see sats but they are permanently red and flat (like they wouldn't have any strengh at all) And its always to do with radio so don't worry about your chipset.

I just read another thread and found this:
Both posts from LoardDark
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POST394:
Hi,
After i had some GPS-Problems (no Sattelite link etc.) i tested many combinations on my own. At the End this works on two Diamonds:
1. Follow the "Unlock description" if necessary
2. Flash your ROM (i used the AZTOR V6)
3. Hard-Reset your Device! <- Important
4. check Com-Port
5. Cold Boot yor GPS
6. Warm Boot yor GPS
7. Hot Boot your GPS
8. No link-Problems, no Lags and very fast Sattelite link (after a few Tests: First Sattelite Link ca. 2 min. After first using GPS ca. 20 sec. to Sattelite-Link)
Important: After installing "Sensor-Lock" my GPS was completely Dead.
I don`t read the completely Thread but i hope this is a little bit helpful.
Greetings
Jerry
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POST 408
At first start GPS Tool -> QualcommChip "Yes" -> Cold Boot
then start GPS Tool -> QualcommChip "Yes" -> Warm Boot
at least start GPS Tool -> QualcommChip "Yes" -> type X -> Hot Boot
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here is the link for GPS tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477
this is actually for improving the GPS lag but maybe helping for you...
good luck!

arvind09 said:
Try using gps gate,it will automatically configure gps settings and then start destinator,it should detect the inbuilt gps receiver and give you a fix,I had exactly the same problem with destinator 7, it just would not detect gps after using gps gate everythings fine,hope this helps.
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Can you find the link for gps gate, what i found on google was kinda weird! please need it desperetly

Diamond GPS Issues

Recently I updated to the SwiftBL 7.0 Full 16PP. As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
Then I close TomTom and start QuickGPS and update it (it is still valid for 6 days and more). After this update there is no problem with Tomtom anymore.
This updating I have to do every time I want to use Tomtom.
I'm just sitting in the car and not in the bathroom, so the gps is not the problem. I'm having this problem for a week now.
Does somebody else have this problem too? Is there a solution?

Mickbravo said:
Recently I updated to the SwiftBL 7.0 Full 16PP. As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
Then I close TomTom and start QuickGPS and update it (it is still valid for 6 days and more). After this update there is no problem with Tomtom anymore.
This updating I have to do every time I want to use Tomtom.
I'm just sitting in the car and not in the bathroom, so the gps is not the problem. I'm having this problem for a week now.
Does somebody else have this problem too? Is there a solution?
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Try holding it up next to the window or use an in-car cradle. This has happened to me when I hold it next to my lap in the car I cant even get a fix. When I hold it next to the window I get a highly accurate fix.

I have a cradle stuck on the window. Before (for 3 months) I did not have a problem.
Or my hardware is braking down or there might be a issue with the ROM. Also f*ckup on my part is possible ofcourse.
But I wanted to know if I was the only one that had this problem. Until now I think I am.

i have gps problem too but i think using htc tools solve it for me so far...use the clear memory option together with nav init and wait for mode 2d fix.Try tis to see if its work?

Please mention which radio version your are using. Please update your radio to Radio v1.00.25.07. This is the best version for the GPS

Skele said:
Please mention which radio version your are using. Please update your radio to Radio v1.00.25.07. This is the best version for the GPS
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im on .08....Hmm....is .07 really the best for gps?i was using tat before tis...

ninja_pimp said:
im on .08....Hmm....is .07 really the best for gps?i was using tat before tis...
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I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?

Skele said:
I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?
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bro u gotta clear ur gps memory when u change radio if not it wun get a fix

Skele said:
I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?
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i find .08 better but i still testing it now

Mickbravo said:
As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
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I have the same problem.
My solution : soft-reset my device.
I'll try another solution : disable the A-GPS.
If anybody has another solution...
(I don't want to change my radio because of the warranty)

A-GPS
I had that same problem with iGO. Disabling A-GPS did the trick.

Likewise with Tomtom. A-GPS is the guilty party.

Having the same problem in Igo 8. The problem is that the program looses the GPS in 5-15 seconds all the time. Igo sais that it is loosing not the signal but it losses the GPS module. The only cure i found is a hard reset or going into flight mode. In flight mode the GPS works perfectly. Tested on 2 Diamonds. Any suggestions except flashing the radio??

Marchell said:
Having the same problem in Igo 8. The problem is that the program looses the GPS in 5-15 seconds all the time. Igo sais that it is loosing not the signal but it losses the GPS module. The only cure i found is a hard reset or going into flight mode. In flight mode the GPS works perfectly. Tested on 2 Diamonds. Any suggestions except flashing the radio??
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100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config

Thats weird I got my XDA Ignito yesterday, put tomtom 7.450, in advance config it had a-gps disabled, but TomTom would not pick up anything.
I thought I try to enable it and it suddenly started working and it was working indoors too.
Thanks for all the info.

WhiteCell said:
100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config
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thanks a lot, i`ll try.

Yes that did the trick. I did put an other ROM on my Diamond so I fixed it by accident but now I know the reason. Thanks.

i cant get a fix on .08, reverting back to .05 or i will try .07

WhiteCell said:
100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config
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Yes! Exactly! I have seen same problem as topic starter. Also If I check "GPS status" by TomTom menu, it always lost and found GPS device every 5-10 sec. Only one think helps - start Google maps app, enable GPS, then Google map quickly found satellite I start TomTom and TomTom work fine till closing.
After disabling A-Gps, now TomTom work perfectly.

No GPS after Radio installation...

... so guys i need your help with this...
I installed the newest HTC-Rom onto my XDA Diamond and the: 1.11.25.01 Radio. everything works fine instead of the GPS.
I tried with iGO Navigator 8 and TomTom Navigator 7 both programs recognize the included GPS but both don't get any Signal through it...
I dont know what to do know please help me... and is it possible to fix that WITHOUT any hardresets because i want to keep my configuration...

Are u sure there is no signal ? What I'm saying is that...even though you don't see signal (especially happens to me with SU Radio's) it still works. At least for me it does. Even when I don't see a signal what eventually happens is that it give me the coordinates from the satellite side and if you start to move you will hopefully your map will show this too.
If this doesn't work get Config. 3.3 and make sure that GPS is disabled.
Or
Just change your radio........doesn't hard reset your phone and non required after you flash. Hope you hard reset your ROM after the flash though!

when i try to use TomTom Navigator...
it hungs at: Waiting for GPS Signal, so i think there is noch signal at all..
which radio version should i try ??

Currently I'm back with 1.09.25.23 but all the Security Unlocked radio's had this symptom of not displaying the signal but it was there.

First time use of an app using gps takes a long time to get a gps fix.
It can take up to 20 min.
And make sure you're outside AAAHAHAHAHA

Try running quick GPS

band27 said:
Currently I'm back with 1.09.25.23 but all the Security Unlocked radio's had this symptom of not displaying the signal but it was there.
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this solves my problem!

Excellent.....glad to hear!

Gps Problem

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Well, after flashing like 150 roms so far, today i had this mysterious problem.
After flashing NRG's 6.5 ( with the new manilla rom ), i flashed into his new one, the 06/20, and then i flashed to duttys 3.9.
Now my gps simply wont work, i mean all the programs find it, but i get no signal whatsoever, not even one single satellite. What do you guys recommend to do ?
I will flash a stock rom now and see if that fixes anything.
PS : Flashing stock rom didnt do nothing.
Please someone help

GPS Problem
Hi
Try Start, settings, connections, connections, advanced, Select networks and set correct values in both dialogues!

What applicatons are you using for GPS?
I dont think the connection settings are completely relevant but make sure not in flight mode and that if you have entered SIM PIN that phone module is functioning, which I guess could be linked back to the operator settings, but GPS should still work regardless.
The stock settings for hardware should not need changing aa far as GPS is concerned.

If the above isn't any help, try hard reseting a few times (take out your storage card first though) as it could be due to some user customisation thing

jones2000 said:
Hi
Try Start, settings, connections, connections, advanced, Select networks and set correct values in both dialogues!
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What does this has to do with my GPS ?
homer285 said:
What applicatons are you using for GPS?
I dont think the connection settings are completely relevant but make sure not in flight mode and that if you have a SIM PIN that phone module is functioning, which I guess could be linked back to the operator settings, but GPS should still work regardless.
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Destinator 7 and igo8 mostly.

sedde said:
What does this has to do with my GPS ?
Destinator 7 and igo8 mostly.
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Have you tried in igo8 goto the GPS settings, untick the box then let igo8 find the GPS by using the option?
Oh and we're assuming you have hardreset after flashing?

homer285 said:
Have you tried in igo8 goto the GPS settings, untick the box then let igo8 find the GPS by using the option?
Oh and we're assuming you have hardreset after flashing?
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Ofc i did hard reset it, more than 2-3 times, and yes i have chosed to find gps automatically. Nothing does the trick, i think the module is broken.

First things first before checking it out with sofware like iGO
Have you tried the 'HTC GPS tool' ?
Remember if you just flashed then you do a complete coldboot of the GPS module.
So go outside and wait up till 10 minutes with the gps tool --> 'open port'
Let us know how that goes!

I don't main to sound patronising but have you downloaded latest info using QuickGPS??

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I don't main to sound patronising but have you downloaded latest info using QuickGPS??
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You dont, yes ofc i did.
I have 2 htc hd's infront of me now, and one is picking sat's in 10 seconds and the other wont find even one.

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I don't main to sound patronising but have you downloaded latest info using QuickGPS??
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Not to say that it wont work but I dont use that application and always get a pretty quick fix, 30-60 secs, even inside my house.
sedde said:
You dont, yes ofc i did.
I have 2 htc hd's infront of me now, and one is picking sat's in 10 seconds and the other wont find even one.
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Damn that doesnt sound good, Id try everything from, flashing the ROM through RUU mode without SD inserted, reflash SPL and phone module, clean and format SD card. Also copy the iGO8 folder from the working device to the other SD card and run the .exe directly from location, just to be certain. Good luck.

Was a long shot, just checking all bases

It isnt a long shot

Ok now i am facing another problem.
How can i go back to 1.14 stock rom ? I just flashed it and i get the green screen..
PS : Nevermind i will restock the spl and use uspl, wont that do the trick ?

and what did 'HTC GPS tool' report?

lukesan said:
and what did 'HTC GPS tool' report?
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if you can provide a .cab for it i will let you know, but i am currently preparing it to take it back to service.
PS : By flashing back to 1.14 and getting the green screen, all i had to do is reflash stock 1.14 spl ( just for knowing ).

Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3004081

lukesan said:
Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3004081
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give me 5 mins to check it.
I hope the service guys wont give me a hard time fixing it or replacing it or i will be really sad to buy a new one
PS : No gps tool did nothing as well, no fix , not even a single satellite and after pressing the test button, it was resetting it after 5 seconds of testing it.
I am really sure its the module

just take it easy.
Sometimes it is best to let it, meaning yourself, rest a couple of hours to start troubleshooting again.
Wait atleast 10 minutes outside while it starts gathering information and preferably leave the Touch on a device that stands still, so not walking around

sedde said:
What does this has to do with my GPS ?
Destinator 7 and igo8 mostly.
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Both Google maps and TomTom uses AGPS!
At least on my phone, that reduces connection time conciderably!!