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Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Bluetooth is Bluetooth, no? What happens when you try to pair the two devices? That's a sweet idea, by the way.
I think this might interest you as well. There's a way to connect a BT mouse to WM devices. I found it on Handango.com, although, strangely, it doesn't show up if you select the AT&T Tilt as your device (but it does show up with any WM5 device).
BlueMouse
I'm going back to grad school soon, and am loving the prospect of carrying 3 small devices that (almost) do the same thing as one heavy laptop!
EDIT: Just read through this thread, and WM6 actually has native support for BT mice! Except for Microsoft's own BT mice... lol. However, I think BlueMouse supports them.
Have a look at this link for a cheap alternative :
http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Blackberry-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE
Buy it while stocks last, I would have brought one but I live in the UK and shipping will be too expensive along with any other taxes they may want to add unless one of you guys can send me one.
Pairing
I have a Logitech bluetooth keyboard with an integrated touchpad. But when I try to pair them, my device just doesn't find the keyboard.
Although I find it amusing, I believe it is even slower using a bluetooth mouse for my phone, than actually using the touch function
But we are atleast on the right track.
For now, I use pocket controller for using my keyboard. But the downside is that it's slow and you need your device connected to the computer at all times.
Imagine using a regular bluetooth keyboard! What a dream ^^
Have you tried using a regular bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have an integrated touchpad? There could be something about that configuration that WM can't handle.
Tec1106 said:
Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
Connecting
3waygeek said:
Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
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Ok. Now my device actually finds the keyboard, but I can't connect it. When I click connect, it asks for a password. I enter nothing, and it continues to where I can select the purpose for the keyboard. When I press finish, my device tells me that the keyboard wants to connect to my phone. Now I need a password to continue, so therfore I enter a random password, like 1111. Then my device waits for a few minutes, and tells me the keyboard has failed connecting.
I have a DiNivo Edge keyboard, if it's any help
Any ideas?
Thx ^^
Maybe...
Maybe I need a specific code, or a way to make the keyoard agree to the connection.
Difficult
Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
3waygeek said:
Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
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Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
Tec1106 said:
Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
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Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
Farsquidge said:
Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
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No, it doesn't sound stupid Sometimes even the smartest person forgets the simpliest resolutions
But I have already tried that, except for the battery compartment. I have no idea how to open it, cause it's an internal rechargeable battery. But if there is an opening somewhere, I'll take a peek inside for a four digit number
Thanks!
Been looking ...
... everywhere on the net, but still haven't found a way to connect the keyboard :\ Anyone that has the DiNivo Edge keyboard, and could help me with this? It would be more than appreciated
Thank you!
Nothing works
I'm giving up
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I'm giving up
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Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
Farsquidge said:
Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
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Now, two months later, I am still clueless about how to get this working. Anyone having better luck than me?
I think you should enter your own passcode first on your PDA, and quickly typing the passcode on your BT KBD while PDA is waiting..
I could connect with Apple BT, Microsoft BT kbd..
After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
zhimingmo said:
After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
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Actually, I've been looking for a way to do this myself The closest I've got, is using remote desktop connected to the computer through WiFi. It's fun, but unpractial and not quite the solution i was looking for.
So, this possible?
I use "Signal" a program for controlling iTunes via Wifi which works well as i use itunes to stream music to different parts of the house. Its also skinable too!
In the past with my Blue Angel not only did i use that but also used Novii Remote for Stereo, TV, Sky, DVD etc and also as a remote for lights in my house.
Almost like House hold universal remote!
I have found a program called salling clicker that will control almost any media program. It also does mouse control and can send the keyboard input to the computer.
The problem is the mouse control and keyboard input are separate parts of the program so for example if I want to type in the address bar I have to go into mouse mode, move the cursor up to the bar and tap, then go into the message mode and type the address, then back to mouse mode. If it were all tied in together it would be the ultimate program for that. They may make an improvement on it too I haven't checked lately.
BTW, this is a much better deal than just the Denovo Mini because with the phone you have the screen to look at when browsing for files etc.
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
bronx said:
OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
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I'm glad I made your day. It's nice to share the little gems that we find!
art12345 said:
Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
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First you have to get the program called 'Salling Clicker' - it installs on your computer that you want to control.
When you have it installed and your PDA setup to connect using wifi or bt you just have to add the custom script onto your computer in the My Documents/My Clicker Scripts folder.
Then add the script using the programs menu on the computer and connect using your phone.
Is this (as title) possible, I mean there are these foldable silicone keyboards wich are small and easy to take with you, but is there any software which makes it work?
Thanks in advaced
Willem
I was able to achieve this with my TyTn II and my diNovo edge. But as far as Iremember the behaviour was quite strange with non standard char (àéô...).
I tried just 5 minutes, just wanted to see if the dinovo edge was able to achieve it.
fun_key said:
I was able to achieve this with my TyTn II and my diNovo edge. But as far as Iremember the behaviour was quite strange with non standard char (àéô...).
I tried just 5 minutes, just wanted to see if the dinovo edge was able to achieve it.
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Did you connect it with USB? cause if that worked I supose all keyboards maid work, I now Bluetooth special keyboards does work well but I have here a microsoft bluetooth keyboard and mouse the mouse worked fine at my Diamond but the keyboard I couldn't get to work.
Willem
there is no usb host on diamond...
Brendo said:
there is no usb host on diamond...
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Some say there is...
Ouatch, sorry guys; I didn't paid attention. I connected it through bluetooth and not USB.
As far as I know HTC devices does not have USB host capability so it should be impossible to achieve this through USB.
Athena does
and of cause htc shift
I believe the diamond must have a USB host, if you look at the service manual, there is a option to flash the phone with an external SD Adapter, there is only one logical way i can see this happening,
USB Host
I think we just need to wait to a driver or something to activate the host function in diamond!
USB Host Cable
any conclusions yet? does this mean that the diamond has hardware in it, but does not have the driver? have anyone tried this cable? http://www.nazo-fjt.com/ptcep/w-zero3/es_usb.html
it's in japanese though, but in seconds through babelfish, it is readable in english.
anybody?
does the touch pro have the hardware to use it as a universal remote? i think ive seen something like it for some phone but cant remember where. If it does work what is a program that will do it well on the TP?
-ebby- said:
does the touch pro have the hardware to use it as a universal remote? i think ive seen something like it for some phone but cant remember where. If it does work what is a program that will do it well on the TP?
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I wouldn't have thought so - there's no Infra Red facility on the TP, is there?
Cheers,
Steve.
-ebby- said:
does the touch pro have the hardware to use it as a universal remote? i think ive seen something like it for some phone but cant remember where. If it does work what is a program that will do it well on the TP?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427097
As mentionned, no IR so short answer is no.
On the other hand it can interact with your PC trough Bluetooth and Wifi...
hello
please help me to have a mouse cursor like Omnia mouse on Xperia X1 !!!!
i now it's only a software , but i can't find it !!!
thanks a lot !!
i tried out an Omnia before getting the xperia and the 'mouse' option was one thing i liked about it. so i'll second that request.
+1 on that request. Might be a way to port over the dll and drivers from the Omnia or Epix.
would lik this also
Yeah, i'm jumping on the bandwagon too.
I just know about this programm. But it's shareware .
I just tried it. I don't like it. I would like some diagonal movement of the mouse, but is it possible?
i swear i saw an app like this a few months ago (forgot its name) being developed on this forum, at that stage there was no optical joystick function but the were planning it for the next updated, who knows what stage it is at now???
I found another app that might fit the bill:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=usbinput
I haven't tried it, but it looks promising. It gives us mouse and keyboard support. And it has two versions, one for connecting via our unit's USB slot, and one via Bluetooth.
Based on the videos I've seen on its website, it didn't show it in landscape mode, so I don't know if it can do things flawlessly in this mode. Not sure how stable it is too.
What I really want is a universal USB capability for the Xperia wherein we can connect any input device, or flash/thumb drives or external hard disks . Is there such a thing? If there is, kindly point me to the right direction!
Yaozer said:
I found another app that might fit the bill:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=usbinput
I haven't tried it, but it looks promising. It gives us mouse and keyboard support. And it has two versions, one for connecting via our unit's USB slot, and one via Bluetooth.
Based on the videos I've seen on its website, it didn't show it in landscape mode, so I don't know if it can do things flawlessly in this mode. Not sure how stable it is too.
What I really want is a universal USB capability for the Xperia wherein we can connect any input device, or flash/thumb drives or external hard disks . Is there such a thing? If there is, kindly point me to the right direction!
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The USB port on the sony will not act as a host so I dont think you can get it to do what you require
bdangol said:
The USB port on the sony will not act as a host so I dont think you can get it to do what you require
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If, for example there is a USB host driver available, can it make the Xperia's USB slot into a host? The reason I asked is because I just googled and found someone who has sort of produced these drivers, check it out:
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58813
The original poster was the one who packaged it, and it seems to be freeware. The thing I'm not so clear about is that he mentioned that his unit is a Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox 560N, and that it shipped with USB host capability. I don't know if he was actually saying that he has extracted the necessary drivers from his unit or that a unit with host capability is a requirement for this app...hmmmm... Well, I haven't tried it yet because it scares me. Anyone brave enough to try it and report on the findings?
we now the X1 and Omnia has a trackpad for scrolling !!!
omnia has a software to turn this trackpad into a virtual mouse , i need this software to turn my X1 trackpad into a virtual mouse like omina !!!
i really need it , please help me !!!
thanks a lot !!!
hmmm
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet? I think it would be great to have the optical pad function as a mouse for quick one handed use...
korval said:
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet? I think it would be great to have the optical pad function as a mouse for quick one handed use...
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Can you please explain...how would a mouse function provide a "quick one handed use"?
It's always faster to simply press the icon on the touchscreen. Also, using the D-PAD to select is faster than trying to hit the right icon with a thumb on a small optical pad.
I never had the use for an optical mouse for the time I use the Xperia and I really doubt it would be an effort.
This should be no offense, it's just my experience.
it is faster, because to touch something on the screen, it is way more comfortable to hold the device in the left hand and use your right hand fingers, if you need to be precise. with the optical mouse you can position the cursor almost pixel-accurate. it is very useful, but i missed a regular dpad on the i780.
a regulard dpad + mouse would be best.
u need to hands to use ur device???
i haven't use the stylus since ages. i can even ark checkboxes with my thump Oo
achmed20 said:
u need to hands to use ur device???
i have use the stylus since ages. i can even ark checkboxes with my thump Oo
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That's exactly what I wanted to say with my post.
I hold the phone in my hand and touch the screen with the same hand's thumb. Works fine, works exactly and I never use the stylus and therefore I have no need for a mouse either
I don't understand why you who don't need/want a mousecursor post in this thread.
I myself would like the option to use a mousecursor. Maybe I won't use it, maybe I will.
More features= More fun...
Dadaism said:
I just know about this programm. But it's shareware .
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i test this but it not good !!! need better !!! please help us !!!
emwdava said:
I don't understand why you who don't need/want a mousecursor post in this thread.
I myself would like the option to use a mousecursor. Maybe I won't use it, maybe I will.
More features= More fun...
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OMG ... you sound like a marketing guy. more features = more fun. look @ twitter, less features -> way more fun
but for real, it would only make things more difficult. if u are unable to place your finger/stylus on an marked spot, then imagine how complicated it will become for you if u have to place a mousecursor with the optical pad
during the time u spent to place the cursor over a certain spot, i would have allready taken out my stylus, touched the spot and insterted it back sicne the optical pad is somewaht limited.