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Targus Universal Wireless Keyboard & XDA

There is a short review of the Targus Universal Wireless Keyboard on Geekzone . The unit works with either PocketPCs or PalmOS PDAs via the IR port. The article does not answer the number one question I have though: "Does it work with the XDA?"
Note the second picture in the article; Notice (1) the mouse, and (2) the adjustable IR xceiver. The built-in mouse seems pretty neat -- I don't know how useful it actually is, but if it eliminates the need to use the stylus when using the keyboard, that could be huge! Also, I would think that having an adjustable IR xceiver (2) would make IR operation with the XDA better because of the odd placement of the XDA's IR port.
This unit is $79.95 at my local Best Buy, and $49.95 with free shipping from Amazon.
Can anyone comment on the operation of this device with the XDA?
Donovan.

The keyboard is excellent. Mouse works great...lets you move around on the screen and click with a mouse pointer. Keyboard is nice and full sized so easy to type on. The arm does move to adjust to just above the IR port. Very responsive you would never know it was a IR keyboard.
I had a pocketop and sorry - it was just junk not to mention the driver for the XDA. Im running 2003 and love the keyboard. No problems at all. GO FOR IT.

Thx drj. This is just the feedback I was hoping to receive. I'm picking up one on my way home from work!

one thing I shoud mention. Go to Targus.com and download the latest driver for the Pocketpc.com Think the CD version is out of date.

Thx drj. I just spent an hour getting acclimated to my new Targus Universal Wireless keyboard. You are absolutely on point! This unit is amazing. The combination of near-full-size keyboard, "mouse" and function keys really enhances the PocketPC user experience. Even though I am not seeking it, this is very close to a desktop experience; what I am looking for is an accessory that will allow rapid text entry when I need to do a lot of it. I think I've found it. Thx for your input, it's much appreciated.
Donovan.

I wonder why at Amazon, there are only negative reports!! Is it as good as you guys say or should I believe the reports?
Targus has no driver for the XDA. Will the other drivers of the units offered, work with the XDA?
If somebody knows pls. reply.
THX
Gear

i just installed the pocket pc 2002 driver / ipaq
and it works great
what i DONT like about is... my ppc has the extended battery, and its too thick for that little hook to hold it.
what it needs is an angled mirror! like i saw on some other design... so that way, even if the IR handle DONT reach it, it will still reflect off the mirror.
but, its a wonderfull product, as close to a full size keyboard as u can get!

There is a driver for O2 XDA. You have to download it off targus.com.
It works great...no conflicts.

Well lets just say I bought a pocketop and it was JUNK. When they released the so called driver for the XDA it was very flakey, I had to hard reset my device to get it back to normal. If they fixed their drivers then maybe it would be an OK input solution. (not great though) But they have 3rd party contractors coding their drivers so no one on staff.
The Targus among other things has an adjustable arm that you move to just over your IR port. As I said have it running on my XDA and WM 2003 and no problems. I do love this keyboard and can take it with me when the XDA2 is here!

ntabikha said:
i just installed the pocket pc 2002 driver / ipaq
and it works great
what i DONT like about is... my ppc has the extended battery, and its too thick for that little hook to hold it.
what it needs is an angled mirror! like i saw on some other design... so that way, even if the IR handle DONT reach it, it will still reflect off the mirror.
but, its a wonderfull product, as close to a full size keyboard as u can get!
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What about a sync cable?
Can you have this keyboard working with the device ands till have it attached to a sync/charge cable?
the problem with my current keybaord is I constantly plug it and unplug it in order to transfer test apps over etc.
..Chuck..

well.. with This particular model, yes!
its IR... the pda never have to physicaly connect to nothing!
infact... if u lay them both on a desk... it can be up to 2 feet away from the keyboard.. provided u have the IR transmitter and IR receiver on the pda facing each other.
thats why i was suggesting the mirror thingie... or maybe a bottle of scotch might act like a prizm and reflect the IR in all directions

Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?

Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Bluetooth is Bluetooth, no? What happens when you try to pair the two devices? That's a sweet idea, by the way.
I think this might interest you as well. There's a way to connect a BT mouse to WM devices. I found it on Handango.com, although, strangely, it doesn't show up if you select the AT&T Tilt as your device (but it does show up with any WM5 device).
BlueMouse
I'm going back to grad school soon, and am loving the prospect of carrying 3 small devices that (almost) do the same thing as one heavy laptop!
EDIT: Just read through this thread, and WM6 actually has native support for BT mice! Except for Microsoft's own BT mice... lol. However, I think BlueMouse supports them.

Have a look at this link for a cheap alternative :
http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Blackberry-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE
Buy it while stocks last, I would have brought one but I live in the UK and shipping will be too expensive along with any other taxes they may want to add unless one of you guys can send me one.

Pairing
I have a Logitech bluetooth keyboard with an integrated touchpad. But when I try to pair them, my device just doesn't find the keyboard.
Although I find it amusing, I believe it is even slower using a bluetooth mouse for my phone, than actually using the touch function
But we are atleast on the right track.
For now, I use pocket controller for using my keyboard. But the downside is that it's slow and you need your device connected to the computer at all times.
Imagine using a regular bluetooth keyboard! What a dream ^^

Have you tried using a regular bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have an integrated touchpad? There could be something about that configuration that WM can't handle.

Tec1106 said:
Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.

Connecting
3waygeek said:
Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
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Ok. Now my device actually finds the keyboard, but I can't connect it. When I click connect, it asks for a password. I enter nothing, and it continues to where I can select the purpose for the keyboard. When I press finish, my device tells me that the keyboard wants to connect to my phone. Now I need a password to continue, so therfore I enter a random password, like 1111. Then my device waits for a few minutes, and tells me the keyboard has failed connecting.
I have a DiNivo Edge keyboard, if it's any help
Any ideas?
Thx ^^

Maybe...
Maybe I need a specific code, or a way to make the keyoard agree to the connection.
Difficult

Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.

3waygeek said:
Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
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Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\

Tec1106 said:
Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
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Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.

Farsquidge said:
Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
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No, it doesn't sound stupid Sometimes even the smartest person forgets the simpliest resolutions
But I have already tried that, except for the battery compartment. I have no idea how to open it, cause it's an internal rechargeable battery. But if there is an opening somewhere, I'll take a peek inside for a four digit number
Thanks!

Been looking ...
... everywhere on the net, but still haven't found a way to connect the keyboard :\ Anyone that has the DiNivo Edge keyboard, and could help me with this? It would be more than appreciated
Thank you!

Nothing works
I'm giving up

Tec1106 said:
I'm giving up
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Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.

Farsquidge said:
Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
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Now, two months later, I am still clueless about how to get this working. Anyone having better luck than me?

I think you should enter your own passcode first on your PDA, and quickly typing the passcode on your BT KBD while PDA is waiting..
I could connect with Apple BT, Microsoft BT kbd..

Can we turn Kaiser into diNovo mini?

After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!

zhimingmo said:
After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
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Actually, I've been looking for a way to do this myself The closest I've got, is using remote desktop connected to the computer through WiFi. It's fun, but unpractial and not quite the solution i was looking for.
So, this possible?

I use "Signal" a program for controlling iTunes via Wifi which works well as i use itunes to stream music to different parts of the house. Its also skinable too!
In the past with my Blue Angel not only did i use that but also used Novii Remote for Stereo, TV, Sky, DVD etc and also as a remote for lights in my house.
Almost like House hold universal remote!

I have found a program called salling clicker that will control almost any media program. It also does mouse control and can send the keyboard input to the computer.
The problem is the mouse control and keyboard input are separate parts of the program so for example if I want to type in the address bar I have to go into mouse mode, move the cursor up to the bar and tap, then go into the message mode and type the address, then back to mouse mode. If it were all tied in together it would be the ultimate program for that. They may make an improvement on it too I haven't checked lately.
BTW, this is a much better deal than just the Denovo Mini because with the phone you have the screen to look at when browsing for files etc.

I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298

Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.

Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...

bronx said:
OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
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I'm glad I made your day. It's nice to share the little gems that we find!

art12345 said:
Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
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First you have to get the program called 'Salling Clicker' - it installs on your computer that you want to control.
When you have it installed and your PDA setup to connect using wifi or bt you just have to add the custom script onto your computer in the My Documents/My Clicker Scripts folder.
Then add the script using the programs menu on the computer and connect using your phone.

9.2" touchscreen headrest monitor

Assuming the USB input for the touchscreen works with the Athena, this could be a nice in-car dash accessory. It would make GPS/map use really sweet, and phone dialing easier. $195.
Anyone want to test it?
http://www.digital4cheap.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/31341/vpid/3917049/vpcsid/0/rid/124129

that would be pretty cool

I keep talking myself out of buying it. At $195 its almost cheap enough to get even if the touchscreen part didn't work with the Athena... but then I would talk myself into getting a mini-PC, and at that point I could have just bought a cheap laptop.

techntrek said:
Assuming the USB input for the touchscreen works with the Athena....
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as long as the usb output act's like a standard pc mouse it works. and thats where the problem starts the manual (see the grey box at right side at the bottom) says somthing from 'install the usb drivers first!' so i think there is no luck with these thing. elsewhise a cool idea as an addon in the car.
greet's mad

I figured it would come down to a driver issue for the touchscreen. Still an off-chance it might work out-of-the-box, or that the company offers a WM driver.

for me, i think that would be a bit expensive, i bought a car headrest monitor at Eonon.com, which just need $175USD!

on-screen mouse for X1

Hey all any one able to help with the creation of a mouse pointer for the X1 that uses the optical pad for control?

IIRC there was one I tried many months ago, but it was really bad. I think that the optical thing only returns one dimension at a time, so don't go thinking you can use it as a track-pad. At least, it did not work on the mouse pointer I had. It worked kinda like the one in Opera 10.
I'm sure you can dig it out with a quick search. It was not specific to X1 -- which maybe why it only ran in 4 directions (but, again, I am 99% sure that is a limitation on the hardware or device driver).

Virtual Mouse, I thought that was the name.

Ya I tried the virtual mouse its shareware and only was u/d/l/r and you are so right it wasnt that good.

There's no other one for the X1 like in the Samsung Omnia.