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There is a short review of the Targus Universal Wireless Keyboard on Geekzone . The unit works with either PocketPCs or PalmOS PDAs via the IR port. The article does not answer the number one question I have though: "Does it work with the XDA?"
Note the second picture in the article; Notice (1) the mouse, and (2) the adjustable IR xceiver. The built-in mouse seems pretty neat -- I don't know how useful it actually is, but if it eliminates the need to use the stylus when using the keyboard, that could be huge! Also, I would think that having an adjustable IR xceiver (2) would make IR operation with the XDA better because of the odd placement of the XDA's IR port.
This unit is $79.95 at my local Best Buy, and $49.95 with free shipping from Amazon.
Can anyone comment on the operation of this device with the XDA?
Donovan.
The keyboard is excellent. Mouse works great...lets you move around on the screen and click with a mouse pointer. Keyboard is nice and full sized so easy to type on. The arm does move to adjust to just above the IR port. Very responsive you would never know it was a IR keyboard.
I had a pocketop and sorry - it was just junk not to mention the driver for the XDA. Im running 2003 and love the keyboard. No problems at all. GO FOR IT.
Thx drj. This is just the feedback I was hoping to receive. I'm picking up one on my way home from work!
one thing I shoud mention. Go to Targus.com and download the latest driver for the Pocketpc.com Think the CD version is out of date.
Thx drj. I just spent an hour getting acclimated to my new Targus Universal Wireless keyboard. You are absolutely on point! This unit is amazing. The combination of near-full-size keyboard, "mouse" and function keys really enhances the PocketPC user experience. Even though I am not seeking it, this is very close to a desktop experience; what I am looking for is an accessory that will allow rapid text entry when I need to do a lot of it. I think I've found it. Thx for your input, it's much appreciated.
Donovan.
I wonder why at Amazon, there are only negative reports!! Is it as good as you guys say or should I believe the reports?
Targus has no driver for the XDA. Will the other drivers of the units offered, work with the XDA?
If somebody knows pls. reply.
THX
Gear
i just installed the pocket pc 2002 driver / ipaq
and it works great
what i DONT like about is... my ppc has the extended battery, and its too thick for that little hook to hold it.
what it needs is an angled mirror! like i saw on some other design... so that way, even if the IR handle DONT reach it, it will still reflect off the mirror.
but, its a wonderfull product, as close to a full size keyboard as u can get!
There is a driver for O2 XDA. You have to download it off targus.com.
It works great...no conflicts.
Well lets just say I bought a pocketop and it was JUNK. When they released the so called driver for the XDA it was very flakey, I had to hard reset my device to get it back to normal. If they fixed their drivers then maybe it would be an OK input solution. (not great though) But they have 3rd party contractors coding their drivers so no one on staff.
The Targus among other things has an adjustable arm that you move to just over your IR port. As I said have it running on my XDA and WM 2003 and no problems. I do love this keyboard and can take it with me when the XDA2 is here!
ntabikha said:
i just installed the pocket pc 2002 driver / ipaq
and it works great
what i DONT like about is... my ppc has the extended battery, and its too thick for that little hook to hold it.
what it needs is an angled mirror! like i saw on some other design... so that way, even if the IR handle DONT reach it, it will still reflect off the mirror.
but, its a wonderfull product, as close to a full size keyboard as u can get!
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What about a sync cable?
Can you have this keyboard working with the device ands till have it attached to a sync/charge cable?
the problem with my current keybaord is I constantly plug it and unplug it in order to transfer test apps over etc.
..Chuck..
well.. with This particular model, yes!
its IR... the pda never have to physicaly connect to nothing!
infact... if u lay them both on a desk... it can be up to 2 feet away from the keyboard.. provided u have the IR transmitter and IR receiver on the pda facing each other.
thats why i was suggesting the mirror thingie... or maybe a bottle of scotch might act like a prizm and reflect the IR in all directions
hello
please help me to have a mouse cursor like Omnia mouse on Xperia X1 !!!!
i now it's only a software , but i can't find it !!!
thanks a lot !!
i tried out an Omnia before getting the xperia and the 'mouse' option was one thing i liked about it. so i'll second that request.
+1 on that request. Might be a way to port over the dll and drivers from the Omnia or Epix.
would lik this also
Yeah, i'm jumping on the bandwagon too.
I just know about this programm. But it's shareware .
I just tried it. I don't like it. I would like some diagonal movement of the mouse, but is it possible?
i swear i saw an app like this a few months ago (forgot its name) being developed on this forum, at that stage there was no optical joystick function but the were planning it for the next updated, who knows what stage it is at now???
I found another app that might fit the bill:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=usbinput
I haven't tried it, but it looks promising. It gives us mouse and keyboard support. And it has two versions, one for connecting via our unit's USB slot, and one via Bluetooth.
Based on the videos I've seen on its website, it didn't show it in landscape mode, so I don't know if it can do things flawlessly in this mode. Not sure how stable it is too.
What I really want is a universal USB capability for the Xperia wherein we can connect any input device, or flash/thumb drives or external hard disks . Is there such a thing? If there is, kindly point me to the right direction!
Yaozer said:
I found another app that might fit the bill:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=usbinput
I haven't tried it, but it looks promising. It gives us mouse and keyboard support. And it has two versions, one for connecting via our unit's USB slot, and one via Bluetooth.
Based on the videos I've seen on its website, it didn't show it in landscape mode, so I don't know if it can do things flawlessly in this mode. Not sure how stable it is too.
What I really want is a universal USB capability for the Xperia wherein we can connect any input device, or flash/thumb drives or external hard disks . Is there such a thing? If there is, kindly point me to the right direction!
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The USB port on the sony will not act as a host so I dont think you can get it to do what you require
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The USB port on the sony will not act as a host so I dont think you can get it to do what you require
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If, for example there is a USB host driver available, can it make the Xperia's USB slot into a host? The reason I asked is because I just googled and found someone who has sort of produced these drivers, check it out:
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58813
The original poster was the one who packaged it, and it seems to be freeware. The thing I'm not so clear about is that he mentioned that his unit is a Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox 560N, and that it shipped with USB host capability. I don't know if he was actually saying that he has extracted the necessary drivers from his unit or that a unit with host capability is a requirement for this app...hmmmm... Well, I haven't tried it yet because it scares me. Anyone brave enough to try it and report on the findings?
we now the X1 and Omnia has a trackpad for scrolling !!!
omnia has a software to turn this trackpad into a virtual mouse , i need this software to turn my X1 trackpad into a virtual mouse like omina !!!
i really need it , please help me !!!
thanks a lot !!!
hmmm
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet? I think it would be great to have the optical pad function as a mouse for quick one handed use...
korval said:
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet? I think it would be great to have the optical pad function as a mouse for quick one handed use...
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Can you please explain...how would a mouse function provide a "quick one handed use"?
It's always faster to simply press the icon on the touchscreen. Also, using the D-PAD to select is faster than trying to hit the right icon with a thumb on a small optical pad.
I never had the use for an optical mouse for the time I use the Xperia and I really doubt it would be an effort.
This should be no offense, it's just my experience.
it is faster, because to touch something on the screen, it is way more comfortable to hold the device in the left hand and use your right hand fingers, if you need to be precise. with the optical mouse you can position the cursor almost pixel-accurate. it is very useful, but i missed a regular dpad on the i780.
a regulard dpad + mouse would be best.
u need to hands to use ur device???
i haven't use the stylus since ages. i can even ark checkboxes with my thump Oo
achmed20 said:
u need to hands to use ur device???
i have use the stylus since ages. i can even ark checkboxes with my thump Oo
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That's exactly what I wanted to say with my post.
I hold the phone in my hand and touch the screen with the same hand's thumb. Works fine, works exactly and I never use the stylus and therefore I have no need for a mouse either
I don't understand why you who don't need/want a mousecursor post in this thread.
I myself would like the option to use a mousecursor. Maybe I won't use it, maybe I will.
More features= More fun...
Dadaism said:
I just know about this programm. But it's shareware .
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i test this but it not good !!! need better !!! please help us !!!
emwdava said:
I don't understand why you who don't need/want a mousecursor post in this thread.
I myself would like the option to use a mousecursor. Maybe I won't use it, maybe I will.
More features= More fun...
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OMG ... you sound like a marketing guy. more features = more fun. look @ twitter, less features -> way more fun
but for real, it would only make things more difficult. if u are unable to place your finger/stylus on an marked spot, then imagine how complicated it will become for you if u have to place a mousecursor with the optical pad
during the time u spent to place the cursor over a certain spot, i would have allready taken out my stylus, touched the spot and insterted it back sicne the optical pad is somewaht limited.
Is there a possible way to connect a mouse to the pda? I hate when I try to play a online game the screen keeps sliding instead of acting as a mouse. Is there a way how I can use a mouse?
hopefully I'll get as much as answers as I do as views.
I'm interested in that too!
There's something called Teksoft USBInput - I just found it yesterday, but haven't tried it yet.
If you can get the right cable adapters put together, I'd imagine that it would work.
Yes, I agree with bdusmc! I too found USBInput not that long ago and have installed the software on my PPC. Recently though, I found the part I was looking for on ebay ($1 and free shipping) and ordered it. I assume it will be arriving soon and I anticipate seeing if it works. I'll let you know if it works, okay? I'm really hoping that it works because well, it would be amazing. Sure you have a slide out keyboard but hey, I have a full sized USB keyboard. WHAT NOW!? lol Ultimate friend pwnge will occur I'm sure. However, if I had the new keyboard from FastFingerKeyboards it would make things more practical then fun....
i think it should be possible and awesome
Sorry for the late response but I've been waiting on the replacement part. You see, it did not connect using the first mini USB to USB Female adapter I purchased nor on the second one I received just today. At this point I can not concluded if it is the adapter or another problem. Anyways, you're welcome to try it and let me know if you can get it to work... Maybe BlueInput would work. The sad thing about that is it uses bluetooth which will decrease the battery life rapidly and bluetooth keyboards are more expensive. Oh well!
You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
AnttiV said:
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
I'm installing an Alpine ILX-W650 for Android Auto in my car next week, and noticed it requires simultaneous Bluetooth and USB connection to the phone. I want an easy way to dock my S10 each time I get into my car, something that's quick, easy, secure, looks nice, won't wear down the type C port on my phone, and charge faster than the 1A provided by the Alpine unit.
If I have to custom fabricate a docking cradle that fits just right in my MK6 GTI, I will, but just want to find the best solution. I have a Baseus auto clamping vent mount with the IR detector and Qi fast charging, and could try affixing a magnetic charging+data capable cable to that so the cable is in place to lock onto my phone's port automatically using the magnetic attraction, but have no idea if that will work or not. I read in one forum that someone was able to wirelessly charge their phone while it's plugged in for Android Auto, anyone know if that will work for the S10? My magnetic cables are the Wsken X1 models, I have no idea if they'll work and how reliable a connection they will provide, anyone try something similar?
Another option I'm considering is using the Samsung Dex Pad as a docking station, and mounting the phone horizontally since I will be controlling everything from my voice and Alpine's touchscreen while driving, and won't need to really do anything with my phone. I asked Samsung if it will work, and they said they've never tested it, suggested that I just try it and find out. I don't want to buy the Dex Pad if it's not going to work, has anyone tested that so I don't have to? Probably will anyway, but it from a place with a good return policy, but am hoping someone out there has thought of this and can enlighten me on what to expect.
Thanks!
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I'm installing an Alpine ILX-W650 for Android Auto in my car next week, and noticed it requires simultaneous Bluetooth and USB connection to the phone. I want an easy way to dock my S10 each time I get into my car, something that's quick, easy, secure, looks nice, won't wear down the type C port on my phone, and charge faster than the 1A provided by the Alpine unit.
If I have to custom fabricate a docking cradle that fits just right in my MK6 GTI, I will, but just want to find the best solution. I have a Baseus auto clamping vent mount with the IR detector and Qi fast charging, and could try affixing a magnetic charging+data capable cable to that so the cable is in place to lock onto my phone's port automatically using the magnetic attraction, but have no idea if that will work or not. I read in one forum that someone was able to wirelessly charge their phone while it's plugged in for Android Auto, anyone know if that will work for the S10? My magnetic cables are the Wsken X1 models, I have no idea if they'll work and how reliable a connection they will provide, anyone try something similar?
Another option I'm considering is using the Samsung Dex Pad as a docking station, and mounting the phone horizontally since I will be controlling everything from my voice and Alpine's touchscreen while driving, and won't need to really do anything with my phone. I asked Samsung if it will work, and they said they've never tested it, suggested that I just try it and find out. I don't want to buy the Dex Pad if it's not going to work, has anyone tested that so I don't have to? Probably will anyway, but it from a place with a good return policy, but am hoping someone out there has thought of this and can enlighten me on what to expect.
Thanks!
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Hello, I have a 04 Audi A4 with a 13” screen and a Dex pad under my arm rest. Out of sight and protected. I love it! My monitor lets me connect and control my phone via touch screen. Torque app works well on a 13” screen. I also have a dell d10u that I use for tuning while my main unit is my s10. I have enabled developer mode on my Dex and the use "Dex Max" App, It helps out as well.
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Hello, I have a 04 Audi A4 with a 13” screen and a Dex pad under my arm rest. Out of sight and protected. I love it! My monitor lets me connect and control my phone via touch screen. Torque app works well on a 13” screen. I also have a dell d10u that I use for tuning while my main unit is my s10. I have enabled developer mode on my Dex and the use "Dex Max" App, It helps out as well.
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Id be interested in this too. Can you expand a little on your setup? I'm looking to do the same with adding a larger LCD while maintaining touch-functionality via android. I'm wanting to piece together a 10-13" LCD along with a capacitive usb overlay but haven't verified that the touch would work via android along with my CarPC.
As for docking, I've been using a cheap $8 Ebay USB hub with success in both DeX and AA in my setup.
Hope theses pic are visible. I will have to get my other phone to display my setup with Dex running.
Forgot one.
Not the cleanest installation, not the worst.
My high mileage e85 Audi A4. Sorta a "beater with a heater".
Here are some pictures, the few are with screen mirroring with the aid of seconscreen app, overlay app and a few others. The rest are in Dex mode which yelids a better picture however apps don't auto start in full screen, while driving it can be somewhat cumbersome.
Galaxy s10
Sorry, pictures seem to be upside down.
My in car screen layout.